Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jack Pistachio [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.03.14.0646 +0100]:
 Boy, that many files I would prefer writing a shell script
 or two, that is, if there is any consistency at all in the
 filenames / current orginization.  Maybe I'd organize
 really old files by date stamp.  There are a number of
 possible options here, but I wouldn't be inclined to
 mousing around for hours.

you have a point, and i am doing a large bit with shell scripts. but
no shell script will be good at cleaning up x~1.doc files from
ancient windoze times. manual work is required.

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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.03.14.0517 +0100]:
 I've been using Endeavour2 for a couple months now and really liking
 it.  I forgot to check this the first time I saw your message.  You
 can filter the dotfiles, that is if I understand correctly what you
 mean by that...files that begin with a ., right?  Under Settings,
 Customize, File Browser, there is a section called Filter with two
 options.  One of them is Hidden, when unchecked you won't see any of
 the dotfiles.  I don't yet know what the other option is for, No
 Access Objects.  Is this what you're looking for?

wow. i feel like a phool now. i swear that option wasn't there
a week ago. ;^

thanks for pointing this out. i will still look at nautilus and
gnome-commander, but now endeavour2 is high up the list again.

it would still be nice if endeavour2 would allow generic
regexp-based filters...

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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-14 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Thursday 13 March 2003 23:28, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.03.13.2142 +0100]:
  Give Filerunner a look-see.  I use it when I'm doing reorganizing like
  you describe.  I has a two-pane view, mouse driven, supports FTP,
  flexible config, etc.

 interesting, but i am missing two things:

   - drag and drop
   - hotkeys

 it seems that the only way to e.g. copy a file is via the buttons in
 the middle. that's tedious. ideally, i would like a file manager
 that can copy files by a combination of endeavour2's drag'n'drop and
 mc's F5 key...


Well, as a KDE user, I always think of natilus as an interesting file manager. 
However, I haven't came across a file manager, which acts as you which ( there 
might be one though ).

But IMHO if you have experience using shell, using that and writing some shell 
scripts is still the best way to manage thousands of files. 

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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-14 Thread Jack Pistachio
  Boy, that many files I would prefer writing a shell
 script
  or two, that is, if there is any consistency at all in
 the
  filenames / current orginization.  Maybe I'd organize
  really old files by date stamp.  There are a number of
  possible options here, but I wouldn't be inclined to
  mousing around for hours.
 
 you have a point, and i am doing a large bit with shell
 scripts. but
 no shell script will be good at cleaning up x~1.doc
 files from
 ancient windoze times. manual work is required.

Yeah, these are those dumb truncated file names.  Isn't the
fullname contained in their header or something?  Maybe the
script could find all these types of files, find the full
name in the header, and mv $i $full_name, where $i is each
in list *~?.doc
Or, as an alternative, I'd write a script to find all these
files, then prompt me for the full name and replace the
filename with my input.  Here manual work certainly is
required but I think it might be quicker.
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alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-13 Thread martin f krafft
i have a tree of all the documents i ever touched in the last 14
years, and i would like to reorganise it. there are 120,000 files
and thus i am reverting to a GUI approach; on the shell, my fingers
would fall off, mc is nice but a little archaic to use i find, so
i want a mouse-driven proggie.

there's endeavour2. it's nice. But until it can put a filter on
files and weed out dotfiles and links out of the display, it's
hardly usable.

so i wonder: are there cool alternatives to endeavour2, other then
konqueror? i don't do KDE, i'd prefer GTK. if it has to be gnome
than that's more alright since galeon forced me to install most
libraries anyway already.

the bazaar is open. suggestions to me!

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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-13 Thread Jeff
martin f krafft, 2003-Mar-13 20:18 +0100:
 i have a tree of all the documents i ever touched in the last 14
 years, and i would like to reorganise it. there are 120,000 files
 and thus i am reverting to a GUI approach; on the shell, my fingers
 would fall off, mc is nice but a little archaic to use i find, so
 i want a mouse-driven proggie.
 
 there's endeavour2. it's nice. But until it can put a filter on
 files and weed out dotfiles and links out of the display, it's
 hardly usable.
 
 so i wonder: are there cool alternatives to endeavour2, other then
 konqueror? i don't do KDE, i'd prefer GTK. if it has to be gnome
 than that's more alright since galeon forced me to install most
 libraries anyway already.
 
 the bazaar is open. suggestions to me!

Give Filerunner a look-see.  I use it when I'm doing reorganizing like
you describe.  I has a two-pane view, mouse driven, supports FTP,
flexible config, etc.

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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-13 Thread Bob Paige
martin f krafft wrote:

i have a tree of all the documents i ever touched in the last 14
years, and i would like to reorganise it. there are 120,000 files
and thus i am reverting to a GUI approach; on the shell, my fingers
would fall off, mc is nice but a little archaic to use i find, so
i want a mouse-driven proggie.
there's endeavour2. it's nice. But until it can put a filter on
files and weed out dotfiles and links out of the display, it's
hardly usable.
so i wonder: are there cool alternatives to endeavour2, other then
konqueror? i don't do KDE, i'd prefer GTK. if it has to be gnome
than that's more alright since galeon forced me to install most
libraries anyway already.
the bazaar is open. suggestions to me!

 

xftree?

Very fast and supports filters. I just opened it on my Mozilla cache 
directory in about 2 seconds (2,244 files, 16MB).

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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bob Paige [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.03.13.2218 +0100]:
 xftree?

is that packaged for Debian?

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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-13 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.03.13.2142 +0100]:
 Give Filerunner a look-see.  I use it when I'm doing reorganizing like
 you describe.  I has a two-pane view, mouse driven, supports FTP,
 flexible config, etc.

interesting, but i am missing two things:

  - drag and drop
  - hotkeys

it seems that the only way to e.g. copy a file is via the buttons in
the middle. that's tedious. ideally, i would like a file manager
that can copy files by a combination of endeavour2's drag'n'drop and
mc's F5 key...

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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-13 Thread Bob Paige
martin f krafft wrote:

also sprach Bob Paige [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.03.13.2218 +0100]:
 

xftree?
   

is that packaged for Debian?

wajig install xfce

You can run xftree without starting the rest of the pieces.

also, please don't CC me, as I request in my footer. no biggie though.
 

Sorry, I don't read everyone's footers (some are very lengthy).

Speaking of replying, I use Mozilla-Mail. Is there a way to have it 
default to replying only to the list, and not all recipients?

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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-13 Thread Benjamin Rutt
Bob Paige [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Speaking of replying, I use Mozilla-Mail. Is there a way to have it
 default to replying only to the list, and not all recipients?

Upgrade to a mail client that supports the Mail-Followup-To: header.
That way, when you respond to a mailing list post which contains the
header, your mail client will Do The Right Thing automatically.
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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-13 Thread matt zagrabelny
 i have a tree of all the documents i ever touched in the last 14
 years, and i would like to reorganise it. there are 120,000 files
 and thus i am reverting to a GUI approach; on the shell, my fingers
 would fall off, mc is nice but a little archaic to use i find, so
 i want a mouse-driven proggie.
 
 there's endeavour2. it's nice. But until it can put a filter on
 files and weed out dotfiles and links out of the display, it's
 hardly usable.
 
 so i wonder: are there cool alternatives to endeavour2, other then
 konqueror? i don't do KDE, i'd prefer GTK. if it has to be gnome
 than that's more alright since galeon forced me to install most
 libraries anyway already.
 
 the bazaar is open. suggestions to me!

have you tried gnome-commander or the mozilla of file managers,
otherwise known as nautilus?



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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-13 Thread Jeff
martin f krafft, 2003-Mar-13 20:18 +0100:
 
 there's endeavour2. it's nice. But until it can put a filter on
 files and weed out dotfiles and links out of the display, it's
 hardly usable.
 

I've been using Endeavour2 for a couple months now and really liking
it.  I forgot to check this the first time I saw your message.  You
can filter the dotfiles, that is if I understand correctly what you
mean by that...files that begin with a ., right?  Under Settings,
Customize, File Browser, there is a section called Filter with two
options.  One of them is Hidden, when unchecked you won't see any of
the dotfiles.  I don't yet know what the other option is for, No
Access Objects.  Is this what you're looking for?

jc


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Re: alternative to endeavour2

2003-03-13 Thread Jack Pistachio
Boy, that many files I would prefer writing a shell script
or two, that is, if there is any consistency at all in the
filenames / current orginization.  Maybe I'd organize
really old files by date stamp.  There are a number of
possible options here, but I wouldn't be inclined to
mousing around for hours.
-jackp


--- matt zagrabelny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i have a tree of all the documents i ever touched in
 the last 14
  years, and i would like to reorganise it. there are
 120,000 files
  and thus i am reverting to a GUI approach; on the
 shell, my fingers
  would fall off, mc is nice but a little archaic to use
 i find, so
  i want a mouse-driven proggie.
  
  there's endeavour2. it's nice. But until it can put a
 filter on
  files and weed out dotfiles and links out of the
 display, it's
  hardly usable.
  
  so i wonder: are there cool alternatives to endeavour2,
 other then
  konqueror? i don't do KDE, i'd prefer GTK. if it has to
 be gnome
  than that's more alright since galeon forced me to
 install most
  libraries anyway already.
  
  the bazaar is open. suggestions to me!
 
 have you tried gnome-commander or the mozilla of file
 managers,
 otherwise known as nautilus?
 
 
 
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