Re: apache-perl vs HTML::Mason
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 12:25:14AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-29 23:30:31 -0500]: > > okay, apt-get is wonderful and all that -- but when sticking > > with a tried-and-true potato setup, it's hard to get feature > > updates without some extra-apt activity... > > Wait, wait, wait. Did you say "sticking with a tried-and-true potato" > and "features updates" in the same sentence? Uh, excuse me? Shock, > horror, amazement! Stunned silence. > > Living on CPAN is almost equivalent to living on unstable. If you > feel CPAN unstable is good, why not Debian unstable? To my way of > thinking that is an inconsistent viewpoint. yes, there are multiple personalities taking liberties here (cut it out! let him talk!) so bear with me... :) and what i (we) meant by feature upgrades was the security patches, mostly. > > perl -MCPAN -e shell > > > install Bundle::HTML::Mason > > [...] > > is there a quickie-like fix without having to do a full to-woody > > upgrade? :( i'd like to have a semi-modern HTML::Mason and > > apache-perl, without having to overhaul the whole schlabotnik... > > Okay, I am getting over my stunned shock and amazement and what I > think I see that only for perl you want the latest and greatest always > but you don't want an update for anything else, not even to go from > potato to woody? > > Me? I would probably 'apt-get source libhtml-mason-perl' and then > 'debuild -uc -us' and create my own deb packages of the modules I > needed with the current perl instead of using the CPAN install. That > way the package manager will know about everything that is installed > and can still manage dependencies properly. i knew there had to be a Debian Way. not knowing what to look for, it's hard to find -- that is, without this debian-user e-list. thanks! -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 2.2; Linux server 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #14 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : What's a RUNLEVEL? It's simply a big-time setting group; runlevel 2 might have a full-blown web server plus X running, and runlevel 3 might be ssh-only, for secure logins. Check /etc/inittab (and /etc/rc.d/*) for details on how yours are set up. And try "man runlevel". Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache-perl vs HTML::Mason
Bob Proulx wrote: > will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-29 23:30:31 -0500]: > >>okay, apt-get is wonderful and all that -- but when sticking >>with a tried-and-true potato setup, it's hard to get feature >>updates without some extra-apt activity... > > > Wait, wait, wait. Did you say "sticking with a tried-and-true potato" > and "features updates" in the same sentence? Uh, excuse me? Shock, > horror, amazement! Stunned silence. > > Living on CPAN is almost equivalent to living on unstable. If you > feel CPAN unstable is good, why not Debian unstable? To my way of > thinking that is an inconsistent viewpoint. > For that matter, egads, man, woody is *stable*. Potato is just plain obsolete. Sheesh, I though I was conservative. Seriously, try to upgrade to woody, even if it is a production server. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache-perl vs HTML::Mason
* will trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020929 21:30]:
> okay, apt-get is wonderful and all that -- but when sticking
> with a tried-and-true potato setup, it's hard to get feature
> updates without some extra-apt activity...
>
> such as
>
> perl -MCPAN -e shell
> > install Bundle::HTML::Mason
>
> to get a version newer than 0.72 of HTML::Mason -- and of course
> the current version of mod_perl is 1.2103 and the new Mason
> needs 1.22 or better. aaugh!
>
> is there a quickie-like fix without having to do a full to-woody
> upgrade? :( i'd like to have a semi-modern HTML::Mason and
> apache-perl, without having to overhaul the whole schlabotnik...
What about grabbing woody's apt and set up an /etc/apt/preferences that
will allow you to selectively choose packages from woody? This way you
should be able to bring in woody's apache-perl and dependencies while
leaving most of the schlabotnik alone.
But come on, woody is so much cooler! I highly recommend the upgrade,
if you're just talking about a desktop system. I do understand the
reluctance if we're talking about production machines, but it sounds to
me like this is a development box or something.
good times,
Vineet
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Re: apache-perl vs HTML::Mason
will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-29 23:30:31 -0500]: > okay, apt-get is wonderful and all that -- but when sticking > with a tried-and-true potato setup, it's hard to get feature > updates without some extra-apt activity... Wait, wait, wait. Did you say "sticking with a tried-and-true potato" and "features updates" in the same sentence? Uh, excuse me? Shock, horror, amazement! Stunned silence. Living on CPAN is almost equivalent to living on unstable. If you feel CPAN unstable is good, why not Debian unstable? To my way of thinking that is an inconsistent viewpoint. > perl -MCPAN -e shell > > install Bundle::HTML::Mason > [...] > is there a quickie-like fix without having to do a full to-woody > upgrade? :( i'd like to have a semi-modern HTML::Mason and > apache-perl, without having to overhaul the whole schlabotnik... Okay, I am getting over my stunned shock and amazement and what I think I see that only for perl you want the latest and greatest always but you don't want an update for anything else, not even to go from potato to woody? Me? I would probably 'apt-get source libhtml-mason-perl' and then 'debuild -uc -us' and create my own deb packages of the modules I needed with the current perl instead of using the CPAN install. That way the package manager will know about everything that is installed and can still manage dependencies properly. Bob msg04366/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
apache-perl vs HTML::Mason
okay, apt-get is wonderful and all that -- but when sticking with a tried-and-true potato setup, it's hard to get feature updates without some extra-apt activity... such as perl -MCPAN -e shell > install Bundle::HTML::Mason to get a version newer than 0.72 of HTML::Mason -- and of course the current version of mod_perl is 1.2103 and the new Mason needs 1.22 or better. aaugh! is there a quickie-like fix without having to do a full to-woody upgrade? :( i'd like to have a semi-modern HTML::Mason and apache-perl, without having to overhaul the whole schlabotnik... is it a |dream? -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 2.2 (potato); Linux server 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #127 from Sam Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Curious about the ONLINE BOOK "LEARNING DEBIAN/GNU LINUX"? Here you go: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/ Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
