Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-10 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/09/2010 09:26 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 -rw-r- 1 root adm 31 Sep 17  2007 boot
  paulandcilla:/var/log# cat boot
  (Nothing has been logged yet.)
 Then you need to enable boot logging.  IIRC I had to manually enable it
 in Lenny.  What does cat /etc/default/bootlogd say?

 If it is NO change it to YES.  This will log the daemon startup messages
 during future boots.

cat /etc/default/bootlogd
# Run bootlogd at startup ?
BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=No


ok.. I got it:) set to yes, reboot, and see why apache doesn't start..

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apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
I had to reboot my Debian box... been awhile since I did that, and when
I logged in remotely using ssh, I got a prompt about waiting to reboot,
or something like that..
anywa, besides taking almost a half hour to reboot, because it had to
fsck a bunch of file systems that hadn't been checked in 225 days,
apache didn't restart. not sure why ?
before apache restarted I tried to start up thunderbird on my laptop to
get to IMAP email on the debian box, but it refused the connection. Once
I started apache, the IMAP connected on the laptop. What does starting
the web server have to do with my IMAP setup?

apache2 is in /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2

shouldn't it automatically start at bootup?

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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 12:21:32 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

 I had to reboot my Debian box... been awhile since I did that, and when
 I logged in remotely using ssh, I got a prompt about waiting to reboot,
 or something like that..
 anywa, besides taking almost a half hour to reboot, because it had to
 fsck a bunch of file systems that hadn't been checked in 225 days,
 apache didn't restart. not sure why ? 

Logs will tell.

 before apache restarted I tried to
 start up thunderbird on my laptop to get to IMAP email on the debian
 box, but it refused the connection. Once I started apache, the IMAP
 connected on the laptop. What does starting the web server have to do
 with my IMAP setup?

I'd say nothing. You can stop apache and still having imap service.
 
 apache2 is in /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2
 
 shouldn't it automatically start at bootup?

Yes... if it does not start you'll have to dig why, review your logs.

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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/09/2010 01:18 PM, Camaleón wrote:
 apache2 is in /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2
  
  shouldn't it automatically start at bootup?
 Yes... if it does not start you'll have to dig why, review your logs.

if it doesn't start at bootup, then there would be no error in the log,
because it didn't try to start..
I'm not sure what log to look at to see why something didn't start.

the apache error.log has LOTS of lines of STUFF, but it is all
module-related:
Cannot find module (UCD-DEMO-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
Cannot find module (SNMP-TARGET-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
Cannot find module (NET-SNMP-AGENT-MIB): At line 0 in (none)

I looked in kern.log, messages, syslog... nada..

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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 14:09:13 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

 On 11/09/2010 01:18 PM, Camaleón wrote:
 apache2 is in /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2
  
  shouldn't it automatically start at bootup?
 Yes... if it does not start you'll have to dig why, review your logs.

 if it doesn't start at bootup, then there would be no error in the log,
 because it didn't try to start..
 I'm not sure what log to look at to see why something didn't start.

You are seeking at the wrong side :-)

Forget about if apache starts at booting, first to do is testing if you 
can run it at all:

/etc/init.d/apache2 start

Does it run? If yes, then you just have to enable apache2 service to boot 
at start. If not, your problem is elsewhere.

 the apache error.log has LOTS of lines of STUFF, but it is all
 module-related:
 Cannot find module (UCD-DEMO-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find
 module (SNMP-TARGET-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module
 (NET-SNMP-AGENT-MIB): At line 0 in (none)

Stuff is that matters (don't you read Slashdot? ;-) )

You have to correct those errors, sir, your error.log should be 
clear, Apache musn't complain about modules not being loaded nor found.

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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Chris Davies
Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.com wrote:
 apache didn't restart. not sure why ?
 apache2 is in /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2

ls -l /etc/*.d/*apache2 please
Chris


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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/09/2010 02:20 PM, Camaleón wrote:
 You are seeking at the wrong side :-)

 Forget about if apache starts at booting, first to do is testing if you 
 can run it at all:

 /etc/init.d/apache2 start
works fine..
 Does it run? If yes, then you just have to enable apache2 service to boot 
 at start. If not, your problem is elsewhere.

ok, I thought the file /etc/rc2.d/S91apache is what started it.. if not
what does start it?

  the apache error.log has LOTS of lines of STUFF, but it is all
  module-related:
  Cannot find module (UCD-DEMO-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find
  module (SNMP-TARGET-MIB): At line 0 in (none) Cannot find module
  (NET-SNMP-AGENT-MIB): At line 0 in (none)
 Stuff is that matters (don't you read Slashdot? ;-) )

 You have to correct those errors, sir, your error.log should be 
 clear, Apache musn't complain about modules not being loaded nor found.
I looked those errors up long ago, and failed miserably at fixing them.
Apache works, I can see my web sites.. squirrelmail works.
this page:
http://www.fasthostinghelp.com/php-error-cannot-find-t96.html?s=92a927966a206420cff1afceb3ca84e3amp;

says:
Solution:
1. Open the php.ini file
2. Find the line 'extension=php_snmp.dll'
3. Comment it as shown below by placing a semi-colon in the start of the
line:

so maybe I'll try that.

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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 14:27:35 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

 On 11/09/2010 02:20 PM, Camaleón wrote:
 You are seeking at the wrong side :-)

 Forget about if apache starts at booting, first to do is testing if you
 can run it at all:

 /etc/init.d/apache2 start
 works fine..

Good.

 Does it run? If yes, then you just have to enable apache2 service to
 boot at start. If not, your problem is elsewhere.

 ok, I thought the file /etc/rc2.d/S91apache is what started it.. if not
 what does start it?

Then re-enable the service (man update-rc.d). Afterwards, restart the 
system and check if apache2 is running as it should.

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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/09/2010 01:13 PM, Chris Davies wrote:
  apache2 is in /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2
 ls -l /etc/*.d/*apache2 please
 Chris

# ls -l /etc/*.d/*apache2  
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6464 Apr 19  2010 /etc/init.d/apache2
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  293 Apr 19  2010 /etc/logrotate.d/apache2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   17 Mar  8  2009 /etc/rc0.d/K09apache2 -
../init.d/apache2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   17 Mar  8  2009 /etc/rc1.d/K09apache2 -
../init.d/apache2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   17 Mar  8  2009 /etc/rc2.d/S99apache2 -
../init.d/apache2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   17 Mar  8  2009 /etc/rc3.d/S91apache2 -
../init.d/apache2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   17 Mar  8  2009 /etc/rc4.d/S91apache2 -
../init.d/apache2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   17 Mar  8  2009 /etc/rc5.d/S91apache2 -
../init.d/apache2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   17 Mar  8  2009 /etc/rc6.d/K09apache2 -
../init.d/apache2

(I changed rc2.d/S91 to S99..)

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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Camaleón
El 2010-11-09 a las 14:49 -0500, Paul Cartwright escribió:

(resending to the list)

 On 11/09/2010 02:39 PM, Camaleón wrote:
  Then re-enable the service (man update-rc.d). Afterwards, restart the 
  system and check if apache2 is running as it should.

 # update-rc.d apache2 start 91 2 3 4 5 . stop 91 0 1 6 .
  System startup links for /etc/init.d/apache2 already exist.

So, did you run the above command...?
 
 I'm pretty sure I already looked and those scripts do exist..

...and Apache still does not run automatically after a system reboot?

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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/09/2010 03:11 PM, Camaleón wrote:
  # update-rc.d apache2 start 91 2 3 4 5 . stop 91 0 1 6 .
   System startup links for /etc/init.d/apache2 already exist.
 So, did you run the above command...?
 
yes I did, and that was the results..

System startup links for /etc/init.d/apache2 already exist.


no, I didn't reboot again.. can't right now,..
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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 15:42:20 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:

 On 11/09/2010 03:11 PM, Camaleón wrote:
  # update-rc.d apache2 start 91 2 3 4 5 . stop 91 0 1 6 .
   System startup links for /etc/init.d/apache2 already exist.
 So, did you run the above command...?
  
 yes I did, and that was the results..
 
 System startup links for /etc/init.d/apache2 already exist.

Which I find fine :-?
 
 no, I didn't reboot again.. can't right now,.. --

O.k. It should work, just wait until the next system restart and remember 
to monitor if apache2 service is up and running after reboot.

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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/9/2010 11:21 AM:
 I had to reboot my Debian box... been awhile since I did that, and when
 I logged in remotely using ssh, I got a prompt about waiting to reboot,
 or something like that..
 anywa, besides taking almost a half hour to reboot, because it had to
 fsck a bunch of file systems that hadn't been checked in 225 days,
 apache didn't restart. not sure why ?
 before apache restarted I tried to start up thunderbird on my laptop to
 get to IMAP email on the debian box, but it refused the connection. Once
 I started apache, the IMAP connected on the laptop. What does starting
 the web server have to do with my IMAP setup?
 
 apache2 is in /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2
 
 shouldn't it automatically start at bootup?

Did you happen to look at /var/log/boot  ?

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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 11/09/2010 06:40 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
  apache2 is in /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2
  
  shouldn't it automatically start at bootup?
 Did you happen to look at /var/log/boot  ?
 ls -l boo*
-rw-r- 1 root adm 31 Sep 17  2007 boot
paulandcilla:/var/log# cat boot
(Nothing has been logged yet.)

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Re: apache IMAP ?

2010-11-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Paul Cartwright put forth on 11/9/2010 7:52 PM:
 On 11/09/2010 06:40 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 apache2 is in /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2

 shouldn't it automatically start at bootup?
 Did you happen to look at /var/log/boot  ?
  ls -l boo*
 -rw-r- 1 root adm 31 Sep 17  2007 boot
 paulandcilla:/var/log# cat boot
 (Nothing has been logged yet.)

Then you need to enable boot logging.  IIRC I had to manually enable it
in Lenny.  What does cat /etc/default/bootlogd say?

If it is NO change it to YES.  This will log the daemon startup messages
during future boots.

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