Re: best way to backup USB stick (2)

2014-06-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 15/04/2014 12:34 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 PaulNM wrote:
 On 04/13/2014 10:16 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

 Specifically: usbDrive=/dev/sde1

 You're not backing up and restoring usb drives, you're backing up and
 restoring a partition on usb drives.  The partition table and bootloader
 aren't handled by your script.  No bootloader=no booting. :)

 I'd suggest getting the whole device (/dev/sde) unless you're planning
 to restore to a drive with other partitions you want to preserve.

The other thing to realize is that you can have two different USB
sticks, but they present differently to the OS and/or BIOS.

For instance, I have a cheap 64GB Sandisk stick that /looks/ like a
fixed drive and another 64GB Silicon Power [SP] stick that presents as
removable (under Windows in this case).  Consequently a backup tool
provided by Toshiba to backup the Windows 8 installation only works on
the SP drive.  Both are overkill for storage, but I would have been
happy to use the slower and otherwise less useful Sandisk device for the
backup.

I did a copy of the SP drive to the Sandisk one (using dd), it did boot
okay, but it failed to do recovery when I tested it; the original backup
on the SP stick works flawlessly.

As an aside, the Windows backup is probably never going to be used, but
I want it just in case.  Already had Kali linux installed and I will be
trying other distros until I settle on one, but I definitely won't be
using Windows 8 on the machine.

In AU we had an advert which said:
  Oils Aint Oils Sol ...
  -- we can say the same about USB sticks.

Cheers
A.





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Re: best way to backup USB stick (2)

2014-04-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

PaulNM wrote:

On 04/13/2014 10:16 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

So I got a script that backs up the USB stick to a file and restores a
(larger) USB stick from that file all using dd.  It is here:

http://paste.debian.net/93598



That's small enough that you should have included it in the email, in my
opinion.


the relevant parts are the backup:

dd conv=notrunc,noerror bs=4096 if=$usbDrive | gzip  $backupFilename

and the restore:

gzip -dc $backupFilename | dd of=$usbDrive

Makes perfect copy AFAICT, but it does not boot and the original USB
stick does. Completes w/o errors.

Can any dd expert tell me what I am doing wrong?


Actually, the really relevant part is the variable definitions.

Specifically: usbDrive=/dev/sde1

You're not backing up and restoring usb drives, you're backing up and
restoring a partition on usb drives.  The partition table and bootloader
aren't handled by your script.  No bootloader=no booting. :)

I'd suggest getting the whole device (/dev/sde) unless you're planning
to restore to a drive with other partitions you want to preserve.


Hugo




Another suggestion: Look into ddrescue (package name is gddrescue).
It's more flexible when dealing with drives that have problems.



Thanks.

Hugo


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best way to backup USB stick (2)

2014-04-13 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

So I got a script that backs up the USB stick to a file and restores a 
(larger) USB stick from that file all using dd.  It is here:


http://paste.debian.net/93598

the relevant parts are the backup:

dd conv=notrunc,noerror bs=4096 if=$usbDrive | gzip  $backupFilename

and the restore:

gzip -dc $backupFilename | dd of=$usbDrive

Makes perfect copy AFAICT, but it does not boot and the original USB 
stick does. Completes w/o errors.


Can any dd expert tell me what I am doing wrong?

Hugo


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Re: best way to backup USB stick (2)

2014-04-13 Thread PaulNM
On 04/13/2014 10:16 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Hi,
 
 So I got a script that backs up the USB stick to a file and restores a
 (larger) USB stick from that file all using dd.  It is here:
 
 http://paste.debian.net/93598
 

That's small enough that you should have included it in the email, in my
opinion.

 the relevant parts are the backup:
 
 dd conv=notrunc,noerror bs=4096 if=$usbDrive | gzip  $backupFilename
 
 and the restore:
 
 gzip -dc $backupFilename | dd of=$usbDrive
 
 Makes perfect copy AFAICT, but it does not boot and the original USB
 stick does. Completes w/o errors.
 
 Can any dd expert tell me what I am doing wrong?

Actually, the really relevant part is the variable definitions.

Specifically: usbDrive=/dev/sde1

You're not backing up and restoring usb drives, you're backing up and
restoring a partition on usb drives.  The partition table and bootloader
aren't handled by your script.  No bootloader=no booting. :)

I'd suggest getting the whole device (/dev/sde) unless you're planning
to restore to a drive with other partitions you want to preserve.

 
 Hugo
 
 

Another suggestion: Look into ddrescue (package name is gddrescue).
It's more flexible when dealing with drives that have problems.

- PaulNM


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