Re: boot failure only on first try when starting computer

2016-06-26 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 26 Jun 2016, Peter Baranyi wrote:
> >> when I turn on my desktop computer (i5 Skylake) with Debian testing,

Ensure you are using the latest BIOS/UEFI.  Skylake systems with an old
BIOS are unsupportable and broken.  This is always the first thing to
verify when any Skylake-based system behaves badly when running Debian.

You *must* have an up-to-date BIOS with any Skylake-based system to run
Debian.  Right now, this means you need to check for a new BIOS at least
once every two months.

Also, ensure you have the intel-microcode package (from non-free)
installed.  Intel started distributing Skylake microcode updates as
well (but they are not useful if your BIOS/UEFI is too outdated).

-- 
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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh



Re: boot failure only on first try when starting computer

2016-06-26 Thread Norbert Kiszka
Dnia 2016-06-26, nie o godzinie 16:49 +0200, Peter Baranyi pisze:
> thanks, I disabled quiet, I'll check the messages.
> 
> It is a new machine, 1-2 months old.
> 
> On 23 June 2016 at 21:57, Norbert Kiszka  wrote:
> > Dnia 2016-06-23, czw o godzinie 09:14 +0200, Peter Baranyi pisze:
> >> hi,
> >>
> >> when I turn on my desktop computer (i5 Skylake) with Debian testing,
> >> on the first try it always freezes right after the grub menu. Then
> >> when I press reset, it always boots correctly. I have one SATA SSD (/,
> >> /home), one SATA HDD (only storage) and one M2 NVME SSD (not even
> >> mounted, has Windows).
> >>
> >> How do I fix this? Thanks!
> >> Peter
> >>
> >
> > Sounds like a motherboard problem.
> >
> > BTW, how old is? Also, how old is Your psu?
> >
> > Anyway, drop quiet from kernel command line (in grub.cfg) to see early
> > messages and upgrade Your bios.
> >
> >
> 

So, capacitors should be ok (unless its factory defect). Check messages
and eventually logs. Eventually try another kernel.

BTW. Did You run fsck?




Re: boot failure only on first try when starting computer

2016-06-26 Thread Peter Baranyi
thanks, I disabled quiet, I'll check the messages.

It is a new machine, 1-2 months old.

On 23 June 2016 at 21:57, Norbert Kiszka  wrote:
> Dnia 2016-06-23, czw o godzinie 09:14 +0200, Peter Baranyi pisze:
>> hi,
>>
>> when I turn on my desktop computer (i5 Skylake) with Debian testing,
>> on the first try it always freezes right after the grub menu. Then
>> when I press reset, it always boots correctly. I have one SATA SSD (/,
>> /home), one SATA HDD (only storage) and one M2 NVME SSD (not even
>> mounted, has Windows).
>>
>> How do I fix this? Thanks!
>> Peter
>>
>
> Sounds like a motherboard problem.
>
> BTW, how old is? Also, how old is Your psu?
>
> Anyway, drop quiet from kernel command line (in grub.cfg) to see early
> messages and upgrade Your bios.
>
>



Re: boot failure only on first try when starting computer

2016-06-23 Thread Norbert Kiszka
Dnia 2016-06-23, czw o godzinie 09:14 +0200, Peter Baranyi pisze:
> hi,
> 
> when I turn on my desktop computer (i5 Skylake) with Debian testing,
> on the first try it always freezes right after the grub menu. Then
> when I press reset, it always boots correctly. I have one SATA SSD (/,
> /home), one SATA HDD (only storage) and one M2 NVME SSD (not even
> mounted, has Windows).
> 
> How do I fix this? Thanks!
> Peter
> 

Sounds like a motherboard problem.

BTW, how old is? Also, how old is Your psu?

Anyway, drop quiet from kernel command line (in grub.cfg) to see early
messages and upgrade Your bios.




Re: boot failure only on first try when starting computer

2016-06-23 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 09:14 +0200, Peter Baranyi wrote:
> hi,
> 
> when I turn on my desktop computer (i5 Skylake) with Debian testing,
> on the first try it always freezes right after the grub menu. Then
> when I press reset, it always boots correctly. I have one SATA SSD
> (/,
> /home), one SATA HDD (only storage) and one M2 NVME SSD (not even
> mounted, has Windows).

Odd, any messages on the console before the freeze?

Making sure that you have up to date firmware/BIOS and microcode
updates is probably a good first step. Apparently Skylake have been
plagued with various issues.

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se



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boot failure only on first try when starting computer

2016-06-23 Thread Peter Baranyi
hi,

when I turn on my desktop computer (i5 Skylake) with Debian testing,
on the first try it always freezes right after the grub menu. Then
when I press reset, it always boots correctly. I have one SATA SSD (/,
/home), one SATA HDD (only storage) and one M2 NVME SSD (not even
mounted, has Windows).

How do I fix this? Thanks!
Peter