Re: booting from the other disk of a RAID-1

2011-06-30 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:11 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:36 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
 the mainboard and found out that I can boot from only one of the disks
 in the RAID-1.  Booting from the other one put me into a blank screen,
 without grub showing up.

 It doesn't work as it's supposed to.  How can I fix it?

 dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and choose both disks when asked about
 grub install devices.

 Thanks, that probably fixed it :)  Only one of the two disks in the
 RAID-1 was selected for installing grub, and now I selected the other
 one as well.  Next time I reboot, I can try it out ...

You're welcome. Good luck...


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Re: booting from the other disk of a RAID-1

2011-06-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29/06/11 00:42, lee wrote:
 Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes:
 
 On 28/06/11 19:15, lee wrote:

 I'm glad it helped you and Peter.  Now the question is how to actually
 solve the problem that one can boot from only one of the disks in a
 RAID-1 array.  The point is to still be able to run the system when a
 disk fails.  Should the one you boot from fail and you halt the system
 to replace it, how do you boot?


 Insert usbkey with backup grub - boot from usbkey.
 
 How do you make such an USB key?  It would be nice to have in case
 anything fails, yet it shouldn't be needed.
 
 Being able to boot despite one of the disks in the RAID-1 has failed is
 one of the advantages of having a RAID-1 I don't want to miss.  USB-keys
 are small and can be very hard to find.  Perhaps I shouldn't even make
 such an USB-key because if I do, it won't take long for the disk to fail
 and the USB-key will, of course, have disappeared: Murphys law ...
 
 
Example where grub2 is installed to the mbr and /boot is located on the
first primary partition formatted as ext3.
Create a primary partition on the usbkey larger than the space taken by
/boot.
Format the partition as ext3. Copy /boot/* to the new partition on the
usbkey.
Ensure the usbkey is not mounted:-
# grub-setup --force /dev/usbkey_device

NOTE: the last command executes very fast.

There appears to be a way to get grub-setup to do the copying for you -
I just haven't taken the time to figure it out yet. :-/

Also worth a look is grub-mkrescue which can create floppy and cd images.

I use some scripting to do this, create a package list, and backup key
config files, to a USB-key after most builds. dd is then used to backup
the USB-key so that many different backup/recovery/rebuild setups can
easily be stored - and quickly re-written to a USB-key.

Cheers

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Re: booting from the other disk of a RAID-1

2011-06-29 Thread lee
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:

 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:36 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
 the mainboard and found out that I can boot from only one of the disks
 in the RAID-1.  Booting from the other one put me into a blank screen,
 without grub showing up.

 It doesn't work as it's supposed to.  How can I fix it?

 dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and choose both disks when asked about
 grub install devices.

Thanks, that probably fixed it :)  Only one of the two disks in the
RAID-1 was selected for installing grub, and now I selected the other
one as well.  Next time I reboot, I can try it out ...


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booting from the other disk of a RAID-1 (was: Needed: a grub2 expert)

2011-06-28 Thread lee
Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes:

 On 28/06/11 05:00, lee wrote:
 martin f krafft madd...@debian.org writes:
 

 snipped

 
 He could try to turn off USB legacy support in the BIOS.
 
 

 Thank you!
 Different issue - but that fixed it! :-)

I'm glad it helped you and Peter.  Now the question is how to actually
solve the problem that one can boot from only one of the disks in a
RAID-1 array.  The point is to still be able to run the system when a
disk fails.  Should the one you boot from fail and you halt the system
to replace it, how do you boot?


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Re: booting from the other disk of a RAID-1 (was: Needed: a grub2 expert)

2011-06-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de [2011.06.28.1115 +0200]:
 I'm glad it helped you and Peter.  Now the question is how to actually
 solve the problem that one can boot from only one of the disks in a
 RAID-1 array.  The point is to still be able to run the system when a
 disk fails.  Should the one you boot from fail and you halt the system
 to replace it, how do you boot?

Grub resides on all components of the array (ideally in their MBR).
It loads off any one of them and then runs its own RAID-assembly
code, which can assemble a degraded RAID-1. Then it loads kernel and
initrd from the filesystem on that array and passes control to the
kernel…

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Re: booting from the other disk of a RAID-1

2011-06-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 28/06/11 19:15, lee wrote:
 Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes:
 
 On 28/06/11 05:00, lee wrote:
 martin f krafft madd...@debian.org writes:


 snipped


 He could try to turn off USB legacy support in the BIOS.



 Thank you!
 Different issue - but that fixed it! :-)
 
 I'm glad it helped you and Peter.  Now the question is how to actually
 solve the problem that one can boot from only one of the disks in a
 RAID-1 array.  The point is to still be able to run the system when a
 disk fails.  Should the one you boot from fail and you halt the system
 to replace it, how do you boot?
 
 
Insert usbkey with backup grub - boot from usbkey.


Cheers

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I camouflaged it with punchlines, and to really throw people off, I did
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Re: booting from the other disk of a RAID-1

2011-06-28 Thread lee
martin f krafft madd...@debian.org writes:

 also sprach lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de [2011.06.28.1115 +0200]:
 I'm glad it helped you and Peter.  Now the question is how to actually
 solve the problem that one can boot from only one of the disks in a
 RAID-1 array.  The point is to still be able to run the system when a
 disk fails.  Should the one you boot from fail and you halt the system
 to replace it, how do you boot?

 Grub resides on all components of the array (ideally in their MBR).
 It loads off any one of them and then runs its own RAID-assembly
 code, which can assemble a degraded RAID-1. Then it loads kernel and
 initrd from the filesystem on that array and passes control to the
 kernel…

Yes, that's what I was expecting.  About two weeks ago, I had to replace
the mainboard and found out that I can boot from only one of the disks
in the RAID-1.  Booting from the other one put me into a blank screen,
without grub showing up.

It doesn't work as it's supposed to.  How can I fix it?


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Re: booting from the other disk of a RAID-1

2011-06-28 Thread lee
Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com writes:

 On 28/06/11 19:15, lee wrote:
 
 I'm glad it helped you and Peter.  Now the question is how to actually
 solve the problem that one can boot from only one of the disks in a
 RAID-1 array.  The point is to still be able to run the system when a
 disk fails.  Should the one you boot from fail and you halt the system
 to replace it, how do you boot?
 
 
 Insert usbkey with backup grub - boot from usbkey.

How do you make such an USB key?  It would be nice to have in case
anything fails, yet it shouldn't be needed.

Being able to boot despite one of the disks in the RAID-1 has failed is
one of the advantages of having a RAID-1 I don't want to miss.  USB-keys
are small and can be very hard to find.  Perhaps I shouldn't even make
such an USB-key because if I do, it won't take long for the disk to fail
and the USB-key will, of course, have disappeared: Murphys law ...


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Re: booting from the other disk of a RAID-1

2011-06-28 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:36 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
 martin f krafft madd...@debian.org writes:

 also sprach lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de [2011.06.28.1115 +0200]:
 I'm glad it helped you and Peter.  Now the question is how to actually
 solve the problem that one can boot from only one of the disks in a
 RAID-1 array.  The point is to still be able to run the system when a
 disk fails.  Should the one you boot from fail and you halt the system
 to replace it, how do you boot?

 Grub resides on all components of the array (ideally in their MBR).
 It loads off any one of them and then runs its own RAID-assembly
 code, which can assemble a degraded RAID-1. Then it loads kernel and
 initrd from the filesystem on that array and passes control to the
 kernel…

 Yes, that's what I was expecting.  About two weeks ago, I had to replace
 the mainboard and found out that I can boot from only one of the disks
 in the RAID-1.  Booting from the other one put me into a blank screen,
 without grub showing up.

 It doesn't work as it's supposed to.  How can I fix it?

dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and choose both disks when asked about
grub install devices.


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Re: booting from the other disk of a RAID-1

2011-06-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de [2011.06.28.1642 +0200]:
 How do you make such an USB key?  It would be nice to have in case
 anything fails, yet it shouldn't be needed.

search for super grub disk

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Re: booting from the other disk of a RAID-1

2011-06-28 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de [2011.06.28.1636 +0200]:
 It doesn't work as it's supposed to.  How can I fix it?

Reinstall grub to all devices, dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc

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