Re: bug ins installation disks utilities?

1996-09-13 Thread Amos Shapira
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
|Did you see any error messages on the floppy I/O?

No.  It seems to work without a problem at all times.  There
are no messages from the floppy drive even when the installation
fails - the base diskettes allways finish being read and fail only
when they are gzip'ed.

Thanks,

--Amos

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Re: bug ins installation disks utilities?

1996-09-12 Thread Christopher R. Hertel
Amos,

This sounds like a probelm that I'm trying to track down!

Here are some key questions:

1) Is your floppy boot disk connected to the floppy controller on the
   1542?
2) What is the ROM release of the 1542?  (It should appear as the
system
   starts up).
3) What brand and revision is your system BIOS?

-and-

4) Does the problem go away if you turn off the internal and/or
external
   cache?

Turning off the cache seems to be the way to get around this problem.
 To do this, you need to go into the BIOS setup. The settings might be
internal and external cache, or level 1 and level 2 cache, or
something like that.

*PLEASE* let me know the answers to these questions.  I've got the same
problem.  I've worked around it but I really want to *solve* it!

Thanks!
Chris -)-

On Sep 11,  7:50pm, Amos Shapira wrote:
 Subject: bug ins installation disks utilities?
: Hello,
:
: I was trying to test the boot process of Debian 1.1.8, which kept
: failing in the stage of unpacking the bases diskettes.
:
: The system is:
:
: 80486 DX2/66
: 16Mb memory
: AHA1542CF ISA scsi controller
: PCI motherboard

-- 
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Re: bug ins installation disks utilities?

1996-09-12 Thread Bruce Perens
Did you see any error messages on the floppy I/O?

I've seen the floppy driver fail in several cases. I have a Pentium 120
laptop here in which the floppy works when cold, not when warm. Windows
95 runs that floppy just fine.

The fix is probably to tune the floppy timing parameters automaticaly
in the driver when there is an I/O failure. Not that I have time to
implement that.

Thanks

Bruce



Re: bug ins installation disks utilities?

1996-09-12 Thread Rosenberg Yigal

 Subject:   Re: bug ins installation disks utilities?

 Amos,
 
 This sounds like a probelm that I'm trying to track down!
 
 Here are some key questions:
 
 1) Is your floppy boot disk connected to the floppy controller on the
1542?

No, the floppy is connected to the on-board IDE controller - a 82078 
chip (according to dmesg).
 
 2) What is the ROM release of the 1542?  (It should appear as the
 system
starts up).

It's a 1542CF with BIOS v2.02

 3) What brand and revision is your system BIOS?

AMI BIOS version 1.00.02.AY0

 
 -and-
 
 4) Does the problem go away if you turn off the internal and/or
 external
cache?

No.  But when we turned off the turbo (in addition to turning off the 
caching) it DID go away.

 
 Turning off the cache seems to be the way to get around this problem.
  To do this, you need to go into the BIOS setup. The settings might be
 internal and external cache, or level 1 and level 2 cache, or
 something like that.
 
 *PLEASE* let me know the answers to these questions.  I've got the same
 problem.  I've worked around it but I really want to *solve* it!

Hope the above helps.  ME and my friend (Yigal, who actually did all 
the work) are at your service for more experimentation and info.
(but we are entering a holidays period, so we'll have a little less 
time at work than usual).

 
 Thanks!

Thanks to you.

--Amos Shapira
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bug ins installation disks utilities?

1996-09-11 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello,

I was trying to test the boot process of Debian 1.1.8, which kept
failing in the stage of unpacking the bases diskettes.

The system is:

80486 DX2/66
16Mb memory
AHA1542CF ISA scsi controller
PCI motherboard

Disks:
IDE - Western Digital 600Mb
SCSI - a very old, very slow HP SCSI-1 disk

some other devices are connected, but they are not relevant (info
will be provided on demand, of course).  I was testting the
installation on the SCSI disk.

What I experienced was that I was constantly getting a message
saying:

gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data -- format violated
Error in archive format.

When at the stage of unpacking the floppies (i.e. after they were
copied to the hard disk).

I md5sum'ed and compared the diskettes against the files which
were copied to them, they compared fine.

Under multi-user (I allready have Debian 1.1.x running), I ran
floppy_merge from the boot-floppies package.  It read the
diskettes without complaining (as it does during installation), and
created a file which passed gzip -tv and star fine.

Then I tried to boot from the boot diskettes and install the
base diskettes on the IDE drive.  This WORKED.

So I suspected that maybe the kernel in the boot disk can't handle
the SCSI disk well (I never got any errors from the SCSI), so still
with dinstall running on the first vc, I switched to vc2 and manually
ran floppy_merge, gzip and star on the troublesome SCSI disk.  This
WORKED TOO.

The only explenation I can think of (which isn't very robust, I
admit) is that maybe star finds the pipe from gzip to be empty
sometimes, and quits instead of waiting for gzip to fill the pipe.
This might also explain the fact that the point of complaint wasn't
exactly the same all the time.

Thanks for any input about this.

Cheers,

--Amos Shapira
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