machine hangs after buying new monitor

2000-10-15 Thread Krzys Majewski
OK quickly before it hangs again.. 
can't be sure they're related, but it only started hanging after I set
up the new monitor.. new monitor means new modelines etc., so I guess it
could have  something to do  with my ati  xpert 98 putting  out higher
bandwidth.. or not at all. It did hang three times with no X running
though: one  kernel panic  after rebooting from  the first  hang, then
it hung during  fsck, then it hung at the  login prompt after entering
runlevel 1.  It's hung about  six times in  the past two hours.  A few
days ago I  tinkered with the cpu  (put in a new fan)  but no problems
until  now. Also  I  reinstalled sendmail  last  night, and  installed
mutt. OK,  I have  no idea. Tried  rerunning lilo  (in case a  bit got
flipped in the  boot image) as well as another  kernel from floppy, no
go.  Any suggestions on how to debug this welcome. Not even sure 
which logs to look through and what for.. -chris




Re: machine hangs after buying new monitor

2000-10-15 Thread Krzys Majewski
Bad news.. rebooted with a DOS 6.22 floppy, went for dinner,
came back: machine frozen, with message 
Divide overflow
on  the  console. This  is  a  2 month  old  Pentium  III 500E,  never
overclocked, never overheated  AFAIK. I did change the  cooler on it a
few days back  though, wonder if I broke something, and  if I did, why
it took three days to manifest itself.  Certainly the new cooler
seemed to work well (~34 C). Will try again with old
monitor, meanwhile any  suggestions welcome (e.g. how to  get a refund
for my broken Pentium if applicable)
-chris

Krzys Majewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 OK quickly before it hangs again.. 
 can't be sure they're related, but it only started hanging after I set
 up the new monitor.. new monitor means new modelines etc., so I guess it
 could have  something to do  with my ati  xpert 98 putting  out higher
 bandwidth.. or not at all. It did hang three times with no X running
 though: one  kernel panic  after rebooting from  the first  hang, then
 it hung during  fsck, then it hung at the  login prompt after entering
 runlevel 1.  It's hung about  six times in  the past two hours.  A few
 days ago I  tinkered with the cpu  (put in a new fan)  but no problems
 until  now. Also  I  reinstalled sendmail  last  night, and  installed
 mutt. OK,  I have  no idea. Tried  rerunning lilo  (in case a  bit got
 flipped in the  boot image) as well as another  kernel from floppy, no
 go.  Any suggestions on how to debug this welcome. Not even sure 
 which logs to look through and what for.. -chris



Re: machine hangs after buying new monitor

2000-10-15 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 09:49:11PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: 

 OK quickly before it hangs again.. 
 can't be sure they're related, but it only started hanging after I set
 up the new monitor.. new monitor means new modelines etc., so I guess it
 could have  something to do  with my ati  xpert 98 putting  out higher
 bandwidth.. or not at all. It did hang three times with no X running

IMHO the worst thing that can happen if you change your monitor is
that the monitor itself might break and not display anything at
all. It is a passive device which is not able to influence the
Computer in any way.

 though: one  kernel panic  after rebooting from  the first  hang, then
 it hung during  fsck, then it hung at the  login prompt after entering
 runlevel 1.  It's hung about  six times in  the past two hours.  A few
 days ago I  tinkered with the cpu  (put in a new fan)  but no problems
 until  now. Also  I  reinstalled sendmail  last  night, and  installed
 mutt. OK,  I have  no idea. Tried  rerunning lilo  (in case a  bit got
 flipped in the  boot image) as well as another  kernel from floppy, no
 go.  Any suggestions on how to debug this welcome. Not even sure 
 which logs to look through and what for.. -chris

Check the following:
1. RAM
Look for the nice tool memtest86 (http://freshmeat.net;

2. HD
Use badblocks to check if you have got any

3. CPU-fan
Check if it does sit on the CPU perfectly, maybe there is a little
space in there and it gets too hot. Might very well be the reason.

HTH,
Phil



Re: buying new monitor

2000-10-09 Thread Christen Welch
On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 11:31:58PM -0400,
Kenneth F. Ryder III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I was going to buy a KDS vs-190 monitor, and was wondering if
 anyone had used this monitor with X before, might have any thoughts
 suggestions? 
 

Well, I don't know what size the 190 is, but a local Office Depot
where I used to live had 19 and 21 KDS monitors. They were cheaper
than the Sony monitors, but the screens looked more like marbles
than flat displays. Didn't look to hot with Windows 95 (they might have
been ay 60Hz or something crappy like that though). A monitor is
a long term investment. I'd save up another paycheck and get
a Sony, Mitsubishi (sp), or get what I want: A 22 Iiyama.

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Re: buying new monitor

2000-10-09 Thread kmself
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 04:39:16AM -0500, Christen Welch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 08, 2000 at 11:31:58PM -0400,
 Kenneth F. Ryder III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I was going to buy a KDS vs-190 monitor, and was wondering if
  anyone had used this monitor with X before, might have any thoughts
  suggestions? 
  
 
 Well, I don't know what size the 190 is, but a local Office Depot
 where I used to live had 19 and 21 KDS monitors. They were cheaper
 than the Sony monitors, but the screens looked more like marbles
 than flat displays. Didn't look to hot with Windows 95 (they might have
 been ay 60Hz or something crappy like that though). A monitor is
 a long term investment. I'd save up another paycheck and get
 a Sony, Mitsubishi (sp), or get what I want: A 22 Iiyama.

Merely seconding the advice to choose quality over price in a monitor.

Sharper, higher resolution, bigger, flatter, brighter, in about that
order. 



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buying new monitor

2000-10-08 Thread Kenneth F. Ryder III
I was going to buy a KDS vs-190 monitor, and was wondering if
anyone had used this monitor with X before, might have any thoughts
suggestions? 

I am running Debian 2.1 

any input would be appreciated.

Thanks 
Ken