Re: Can't switch to virtual console anymore

2005-12-23 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 22 Dec 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 

[snip] 

> Problem solved.  It turned out to be "one of those warnings I recognized."
> 
> For years, X complained that there was no XkbVariant named "Microsoft" in
> response to the line:
> 
>Section "InputDevice"
>   ...
>   Option  "XkbVariant"  "Microsoft"
>   ...
>EndSection
> 
> I'm not sure when that line appeared in my config file.  Quite possibly back
> when I was using Suse 6.1, way before I switched to Debian.  I guess I just
> "toted" the config file around, and only changed mode, horiz and vertical
> timings when configuring a new system.
> 
> The warning didn't have any adverse effect, and I always promised myself to
> look into it when time permitted me to delve into learning the nitty gritty
> details of keyboards under X.
> 
> There always seemed to be more pressing issues.  And besides, it's difficult
> to get excited about learning details of keyboards under X.  It seems more
> complicated than it ought to be.  And dry.
> 
> Short story is, that line always caused a benign warning.
> 
> Since I was (potentially) having trouble with the keyboard, I started to
> scrutinize the X output, even looking at things which I didn't think had
> relevence to the problem at hand.  That trained my eye on the warning.
> 
> I'm not sure what got upgraded yesterday, but whatever it was, that warning
> apparently was no longer benign.  I removed the XbdVariant, and now
> everything is back to normal.
> 
> Pete


This is not the only possible cause. In my case what was needed was to
include the following line under "InputDevice" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

 Option "XkbDisable""true"

No idea why.


Anthony


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Re: Can't switch to virtual console anymore

2005-12-22 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 22 Dec 05,  9:09 AM, p  said:
> Dear all,
> 
> I can't switch to a virtual console any longer.  I'm fairly sure whatever
> happened must have happened during my last "aptitude upgrade", because I
> switch to VC's very very often.  Datapoints:
> 
> 0. This is a Debian/testing machine.
> 
> 1. My XF86Config does not contain the DontVTSwitch option.
> 
> 2. On control-alt-F1, xev reports:
> 
>KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
>root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417047, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
>state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES,
>XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
>XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
>XFilterEvent returns: False
> 
>KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
>root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417495, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
>state 0x4, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,
>XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
>XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
>XFilterEvent returns: False
> 
>KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
>root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417935, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
>state 0xc, keycode 67 (keysym 0xffbe, F1), same_screen YES,
>XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
>XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
>XFilterEvent returns: False
> 
> 
> 3. Once I kill X, I can switch consoles using the familiar alt-[1-9].
> 
> 4. There's no output from xinit/startx that I don't recognize as already
>being there (for example, I've seen the message:
> 
>   Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
>   removing from list!
> 
>for at least a year.)
> 
> 5. When I hit contol-alt-F1 when a vim instance has focus, I see "7P".
> 
> 
> I will go nuts without my consoles.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Pete

Problem solved.  It turned out to be "one of those warnings I recognized."

For years, X complained that there was no XkbVariant named "Microsoft" in
response to the line:

   Section "InputDevice"
  ...
  Option  "XkbVariant"  "Microsoft"
  ...
   EndSection

I'm not sure when that line appeared in my config file.  Quite possibly back
when I was using Suse 6.1, way before I switched to Debian.  I guess I just
"toted" the config file around, and only changed mode, horiz and vertical
timings when configuring a new system.

The warning didn't have any adverse effect, and I always promised myself to
look into it when time permitted me to delve into learning the nitty gritty
details of keyboards under X.

There always seemed to be more pressing issues.  And besides, it's difficult
to get excited about learning details of keyboards under X.  It seems more
complicated than it ought to be.  And dry.

Short story is, that line always caused a benign warning.

Since I was (potentially) having trouble with the keyboard, I started to
scrutinize the X output, even looking at things which I didn't think had
relevence to the problem at hand.  That trained my eye on the warning.

I'm not sure what got upgraded yesterday, but whatever it was, that warning
apparently was no longer benign.  I removed the XbdVariant, and now
everything is back to normal.

Pete


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Re: Can't switch to virtual console anymore

2005-12-22 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
On Thu 22 Dec 05,  9:43 AM, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 
> >Dear all,
> >
> >I can't switch to a virtual console any longer.  I'm fairly sure whatever
> >happened must have happened during my last "aptitude upgrade", because I
> >switch to VC's very very often.  Datapoints:
> >
> >0. This is a Debian/testing machine.
> >
> >1. My XF86Config does not contain the DontVTSwitch option.
> >
> I would expect that X.org has filtered into Testing by now; perhaps the 
> problem is in xorg.conf rather than in XF86Config?
 
Yeah, you're right.  I hadn't noticed the existence of that file.
Unfortunately, the two files appear to be duplicates

   # diff xorg.conf XF86Config-4
   # 

so there's no DontVTSwitch in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, either.   xwininfo and
xdpyinfo don't seem to give any info that appears relevent to the problem.
I was hoping they'd show "DontVTSwitch" in their output.  At least then I'd
know what was causing the problem.

This is so wierd...

Any other suggestions?

Thanks!


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Re: Can't switch to virtual console anymore

2005-12-22 Thread Kent West

Peter Jay Salzman wrote:


Dear all,

I can't switch to a virtual console any longer.  I'm fairly sure whatever
happened must have happened during my last "aptitude upgrade", because I
switch to VC's very very often.  Datapoints:

0. This is a Debian/testing machine.

1. My XF86Config does not contain the DontVTSwitch option.

I would expect that X.org has filtered into Testing by now; perhaps the 
problem is in xorg.conf rather than in XF86Config?


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Can't switch to virtual console anymore

2005-12-22 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
Dear all,

I can't switch to a virtual console any longer.  I'm fairly sure whatever
happened must have happened during my last "aptitude upgrade", because I
switch to VC's very very often.  Datapoints:

0. This is a Debian/testing machine.

1. My XF86Config does not contain the DontVTSwitch option.

2. On control-alt-F1, xev reports:

   KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
   root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417047, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
   state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES,
   XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XFilterEvent returns: False

   KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
   root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417495, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
   state 0x4, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,
   XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XFilterEvent returns: False

   KeyPress event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0x121,
   root 0x40, subw 0x122, time 417935, (47,38), root:(1117,396),
   state 0xc, keycode 67 (keysym 0xffbe, F1), same_screen YES,
   XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
   XFilterEvent returns: False


3. Once I kill X, I can switch consoles using the familiar alt-[1-9].

4. There's no output from xinit/startx that I don't recognize as already
   being there (for example, I've seen the message:

  Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
  removing from list!

   for at least a year.)

5. When I hit contol-alt-F1 when a vim instance has focus, I see "7P".


I will go nuts without my consoles.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Pete


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Re: can't switch to virtual console

2005-07-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
thank you for your replies.
1.The "DontVTSwitch" option is commented.
2.My videocard is built in the motherboard - "Intel Corp. 82915G"
What actually happens is the following-during the debian
booting(shortly before the X server starts and takes me to the graphic
mode),when I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 I can switch into the virtual
console,but once the KDE login prompt is shown I can't switch into the
other consoles any more.
Any other ideas?:)
Thank you again
Irena


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Re: can't switch to virtual console

2005-07-04 Thread Tom Verbreyt
Hey ho,

> I'm not sure if it's debian or keyboard or X issue,but however...I'll
> really appreciate your help.
> I'm using Debian testing with 2.6.11-rc3 kernel,every time when the
> mashine boot I'm logging into the X server,and after this I can't
> switch anymore to the other virtual consoles using Ctrl+Alt+F1...F6.

You don't mention the relevant specifics, such as what video card you have,
or what actually happens when you try Ctrl+Alt+F1.

I can only say that I've been having the same kind of problem on and off
for several years with my Nvidia card. Sometimes I could switch to console,
then later I could switch, but it was all gibberish, still later it just
made my monitor go out of sync etc. etc.

Lately, however, someone pointed me to the vesafb-tng patch [1], and it
seems to have solved all my problems. :-)

So if you're using an Nvidia card too, I'd say give it a go.

Cheers,
Tom

[1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/vesafb-tng/


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Re: can't switch to virtual console

2005-07-04 Thread Thomas Weinbrenner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm not sure if it's debian or keyboard or X issue,but however...I'll
> really appreciate your help.
> I'm using Debian testing with 2.6.11-rc3 kernel,every time when the
> mashine boot I'm logging into the X server,and after this I can't
> switch anymore to the other virtual consoles using Ctrl+Alt+F1...F6.Do
> you have any idea is there an option in the kernel configuration I'm
> omiting,or anything that I had made wrong?

Do you have the DontVTSwitch option in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4?

,[ man XF86Config-4 ]-
| Option "DontVTSwitch"  "boolean"
|   This disallows the use of the Ctrl+Alt+Fn sequence (where Fn refers to
|   one  of  the  numbered  function keys).   That  sequence  is  normally
|   used to switch to another "virtual terminal" on operating systems that
|   have this feature.  When this option is enabled, that key sequence has
|   no special meaning  and  is passed to clients.  Default: off 
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can't switch to virtual console

2005-07-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi everyone,
I'm not sure if it's debian or keyboard or X issue,but however...I'll
really appreciate your help.
I'm using Debian testing with 2.6.11-rc3 kernel,every time when the
mashine boot I'm logging into the X server,and after this I can't
switch anymore to the other virtual consoles using Ctrl+Alt+F1...F6.Do
you have any idea is there an option in the kernel configuration I'm
omiting,or anything that I had made wrong?

Thank you in advance.
Irena


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