Re: comment about Linux

1997-09-18 Thread Trevor Barrie
On 13 Sep 1997, Torsten Hilbrich wrote:

> The only solution is a terminal attached to your computer, some people
> use their calculators (the better TI and HP ones) for this purpose.

Okay, this I have to learn how to do.:) How good a calculator do you need?
I have a HP 48S with (I think) 32 k of memory... will that cut it?



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Re: comment about Linux

1997-09-17 Thread dada
Torsten Hilbrich wrote:
> 
> dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > Is true that I never lose control on my linux box, but some times I lose
> > control in my X-Windows and I must restart the X. Is that usual?
> >
> > I supose that's due to use some aplications. But if this is true, why I
> > lose control on all aplications that I'm using?
> 
> Some application (especially Motif-ones) sometimes grab all mouse and
> keyboard event (e.g. when you select a submenu).

asometime Communicator do it, but only grab communicator and
its applications (the other ones keep on running fine.)

  If the application
> (or the widget library) forgets to correctly release the grab you will
> be unable to do anything with X-Window System, including switching to
> other terminals using ctrl-alt-f and zapping X11 using ctrl-alt-bs.
> 
> The only solution is a terminal attached to your computer, some people
> use their calculators (the better TI and HP ones) for this purpose.

ohhh... that's vodoo for me... whith an calculator?

> You can also use another computer in a local network to remote login
> into your machine.

Yes, that's the way i used.

> 
> Torsten


Regards !



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Re: comment about Linux

1997-09-14 Thread Britton

On 13 Sep 1997, Torsten Hilbrich wrote:

> dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi
> > 
> > Is true that I never lose control on my linux box, but some times I lose
> > control in my X-Windows and I must restart the X. Is that usual?
> > 
> > I supose that's due to use some aplications. But if this is true, why I
> > lose control on all aplications that I'm using?
> 
> Some application (especially Motif-ones) sometimes grab all mouse and
> keyboard event (e.g. when you select a submenu).  If the application
> (or the widget library) forgets to correctly release the grab you will
> be unable to do anything with X-Window System, including switching to
> other terminals using ctrl-alt-f and zapping X11 using ctrl-alt-bs.
> 
> The only solution is a terminal attached to your computer, some people
> use their calculators (the better TI and HP ones) for this purpose.
> You can also use another computer in a local network to remote login
> into your machine.

I believe there is also a program out there that will allow you to kill
the xserver or shut down cleanly with your joystick.  Of course I suppose
that could get grabbed as well by some apps. 



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Re: comment about Linux

1997-09-14 Thread dada
Jim Pick wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > Is true that I never lose control on my linux box, but some times I lose
> > control in my X-Windows and I must restart the X. Is that usual?
> >
> > I supose that's due to use some aplications. But if this is true, why I
> > lose control on all aplications that I'm using?
> 
> How do you lose control?


> 
> I've had X crash on me quite a few times -- but not regularily.  It's a


yes, it's not regularilybut sometimes when I am using Communicator
(an others application that I don't remember now) I lose control about
all my X-windows applications...estrange, but true.

> pretty big system that is still changing, and there are lots of places
> for bugs to hide.
> 
> It's still pretty stable compared to Windows 95 though.

:-)  that's true. When w95 craks I must reset the system. In Linux I
only must restart X-window (I never lose control about consoles).

> 
> Cheers,
> 


Regards



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Re: comment about Linux

1997-09-14 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
dada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi
> 
> Is true that I never lose control on my linux box, but some times I lose
> control in my X-Windows and I must restart the X. Is that usual?
> 
> I supose that's due to use some aplications. But if this is true, why I
> lose control on all aplications that I'm using?

Some application (especially Motif-ones) sometimes grab all mouse and
keyboard event (e.g. when you select a submenu).  If the application
(or the widget library) forgets to correctly release the grab you will
be unable to do anything with X-Window System, including switching to
other terminals using ctrl-alt-f and zapping X11 using ctrl-alt-bs.

The only solution is a terminal attached to your computer, some people
use their calculators (the better TI and HP ones) for this purpose.
You can also use another computer in a local network to remote login
into your machine.

Torsten

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Re: comment about Linux

1997-09-12 Thread Jim Pick

> Hi
> 
> Is true that I never lose control on my linux box, but some times I lose
> control in my X-Windows and I must restart the X. Is that usual?
> 
> I supose that's due to use some aplications. But if this is true, why I
> lose control on all aplications that I'm using?

How do you lose control?

I've had X crash on me quite a few times -- but not regularily.  It's a 
pretty big system that is still changing, and there are lots of places 
for bugs to hide.

It's still pretty stable compared to Windows 95 though.

Cheers,

 - Jim



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comment about Linux

1997-09-11 Thread dada
Hi

Is true that I never lose control on my linux box, but some times I lose
control in my X-Windows and I must restart the X. Is that usual?

I supose that's due to use some aplications. But if this is true, why I
lose control on all aplications that I'm using?


Regards


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