curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-26 Thread John O Laoi
 Then my vote goes to sit and wait :-)

I sat and waited and nothing happened.

Today, I did more Googleing and found a sledgehammer solution.

Go to runlevel 3 and login.
Then issue the command

$   rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd

Reboot.

Your gnome-panel settings will be reset to the defaults, but at least
things work again.

John


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Re: curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,26.May.10, 09:06:57, John O Laoi wrote:
  Then my vote goes to sit and wait :-)
 
 I sat and waited and nothing happened.
 
 Today, I did more Googleing and found a sledgehammer solution.
 
 Go to runlevel 3 and login.

This will probably not have the expected result on a default Debian 
install, since runlevels 2-5 are identical.


 Then issue the command
 
 $   rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd
 
 Reboot.

The fastest way I can think of to achieve the same:

- boot in recovery mode
# rm -rf ~username/.gnome
...
# reboot

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Re: curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-26 Thread Jochen Schulz
Andrei Popescu:

 - boot in recovery mode
 # rm -rf ~username/.gnome
 ...
 # reboot

What's the point in rebooting? Just log out, log in on a VT, delete the
directories and log in again. Gnome doesn't keep any daemons running
after the user logs out, or does it?

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Re: curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,26.May.10, 10:59:30, Jochen Schulz wrote:
 Andrei Popescu:
 
  - boot in recovery mode
  # rm -rf ~username/.gnome
  ...
  # reboot
 
 What's the point in rebooting? Just log out, log in on a VT, delete the
 directories and log in again. Gnome doesn't keep any daemons running
 after the user logs out, or does it?

I certainly hope it doesn't :)

Your way is usually safer since it doesn't require root, but changing 
VTs can cause issues on some machines...

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Re: curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-26 Thread Jochen Schulz
Andrei Popescu:
 On Wed,26.May.10, 10:59:30, Jochen Schulz wrote:
 
 What's the point in rebooting? Just log out, log in on a VT, delete the
 directories and log in again. Gnome doesn't keep any daemons running
 after the user logs out, or does it?
 
 I certainly hope it doesn't :)

I am going to check this when I am back home!

 Your way is usually safer since it doesn't require root, but changing 
 VTs can cause issues on some machines...

Oh dear. When I started using Linux, it was X that was sometimes hard to
get running. :)

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Re: curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-26 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 26 May 2010 09:06:57 +0100, John O Laoi wrote:

 Then my vote goes to sit and wait :-)
 
 I sat and waited and nothing happened.
 
 Today, I did more Googleing and found a sledgehammer solution.
 
 Go to runlevel 3 and login.
 Then issue the command
 
 $   rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd
 
 Reboot.
 
 Your gnome-panel settings will be reset to the defaults, but at least
 things work again.

I'ts quite strange, beacuse doing that should have caused the same 
behavior that login with a new and fresh user (empty GNOME profiles, and 
IIRC that was not working for you.

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curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread John O Laoi
Hello,

I am using squeeze on a dell laptop, and am using Gnome, as came with
the standard installation.

Yesterday, after a big “safe-upgrade” my desktop started to behave curiously.

When I open a console on the GUI and minimize it, it appears to go to
the bottom right corner, and then disappears completely.
Then the Panel on the top panel no longer functions.
Icons on the desktop continue to function.

If I open another app, all of the buttons on the top panel disappear,
except for the volume button.
Then the bottom panel becomes completely bank.

Any ideas what has happened?

John


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Re: curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 05 May 2010 09:00:17 +0100, John O Laoi wrote:

(...)
 
 When I open a console on the GUI and minimize it, it appears to go to
 the bottom right corner, and then disappears completely. Then the Panel
 on the top panel no longer functions. Icons on the desktop continue to
 function.
 
 If I open another app, all of the buttons on the top panel disappear,
 except for the volume button.
 Then the bottom panel becomes completely bank.
 
 Any ideas what has happened?

It seems something was messed-up. GNOME updates do not always go smoothly.

- First try: run killall gnome-panel.

- Second thing to check: create a new panel and see if behaves correctly 
when you minimize the applications.

- Thrird try: create a new user and login with it.

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Re: curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread John O Laoi
Thanks Camaleón,

 - First try: run killall gnome-panel.

 - Second thing to check: create a new panel and see if behaves correctly
 when you minimize the applications.

 - Thrird try: create a new user and login with it.



I did all of this.
Same behaviour, even with the new user.
John


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Re: curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 05 May 2010 09:55:00 +0100, John O Laoi wrote:

 Thanks Camaleón,
 
 - First try: run killall gnome-panel.

 - Second thing to check: create a new panel and see if behaves
 correctly when you minimize the applications.

 - Thrird try: create a new user and login with it.


 
 I did all of this.
 Same behaviour, even with the new user. John

Wow... then I'm out of ideas, unless waiting for another safe-upgrade 
O:-)

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curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread John O Laoi
What would ye think of doing

aptitude purge gnome
followed by
aptitude install gnome

Is that likely to break lots of other things?

John


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Re: curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:36:34 +0100, John O Laoi wrote:

 What would ye think of doing
 
 aptitude purge gnome
 followed by
 aptitude install gnome
 
 Is that likely to break lots of other things?

Dunno, I'm a stable user and do not like such abrupt things. 

How do you (you = people using Squeeze) usually run updates for GNOME? Or 
these updates come also integrated with standard packages? If the latter, 
just wait for newer packages become available.

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Re: curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread Jochen Schulz
Camaleón:
 On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:36:34 +0100, John O Laoi wrote:
 
 What would ye think of doing
 
 aptitude purge gnome
 followed by
 aptitude install gnome
 
 Is that likely to break lots of other things?

Usually not, but I don't see the point in doing that. It appears you
would just reinstall the package with your bug in it.

 How do you (you = people using Squeeze) usually run updates for GNOME?

I run sid and in cases like these (don't run Gnome) I either downgrade
to the version in testing, use an archived version or just sit and wait.

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Re: curious gnome desktop behaviour after upgrade

2010-05-05 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 05 May 2010 13:15:50 +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote:

 Camaleón:
 On Wed, 05 May 2010 10:36:34 +0100, John O Laoi wrote:
 
 What would ye think of doing
 
 aptitude purge gnome
 followed by
 aptitude install gnome
 
 Is that likely to break lots of other things?
 
 Usually not, but I don't see the point in doing that. It appears you
 would just reinstall the package with your bug in it.

The point is, which package? gnome-panel have all the point to be the 
culprit but, how we could know what is causing the mess? It can be a mix 
of several packages, it's hard to tell.
 
 How do you (you = people using Squeeze) usually run updates for GNOME?
 
 I run sid and in cases like these (don't run Gnome) I either downgrade
 to the version in testing, use an archived version or just sit and wait.

Then my vote goes to sit and wait :-)

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