Re: dist-upgrade installs new package, lists it as autoremove candidate

2014-04-26 Thread The Wanderer
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On 04/26/2014 06:00 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Vi, 25 apr 14, 13:22:03, The Wanderer wrote:
> 
>> This is obviously a bug somewhere (albeit probably not a severe one
>> in practice), but I'm not even sure what package the bug would be
>> in.
>> 
>> Any hints, or ideas what might be going on here?
> 
> I suggest you post this to http://lists.debian.org/deity or report a
> bug against apt.

I'd thought of that, but wasn't sure that was sufficiently likely to be
the location of the problem.

Digging deeper now, what I'm seeing looks like a less severe version of
something that was reported back in 2009, and apparently never followed
up on:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=519469

I'll post to that bug, though I'm not hopeful of its getting any
attention at this late date.

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Re: dist-upgrade installs new package, lists it as autoremove candidate

2014-04-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 03:29:49PM +0200, Carlo wrote:
> I would tell you a my tip:
> 
> - if you want go from stable to testing/unstable before you must
> change your channel in repository's file located in
> /etc/apt/sources.list.
> 
> - after this edit, these are the right sequence of command by terminal:
> 
> # apt-get update
> # apt-get upgrade
> # apt-get install apt dpkg aptitude
> # aptitude safe-upgrade
???
> # aptitude full-upgrade
???
> # update-grub

Where did you get this idea of using aptitude, Carlo?  Is this in
current release/installation guide?  Curious.  safe-upgrade may be
harmless.  But full-upgrade had some odd behavior cases.

(OP may have been hit by multiarch related issue.  Your suggestion of
"apt-get install ..." or similar may help avoid some of them.)

I thought we are not recommending to use the command line use of
aptitude for the release-to-release upgrade.  (I love aptitude in
console terminal view.)

Regards,

Osamu


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Re: dist-upgrade installs new package, lists it as autoremove candidate

2014-04-26 Thread Carlo
I would tell you a my tip:

- if you want go from stable to testing/unstable before you must
change your channel in repository's file located in
/etc/apt/sources.list.

- after this edit, these are the right sequence of command by terminal:

# apt-get update
# apt-get upgrade
# apt-get install apt dpkg aptitude
# aptitude safe-upgrade
# aptitude full-upgrade
# update-grub

In this way you shoudn't have some problems of conflicts or packages
removed in strange way.

I hope to give my little contribution, I don't know how functional as it can be.

Bye.

2014-04-26 12:00 GMT+02:00 Andrei POPESCU :
> On Vi, 25 apr 14, 13:22:03, The Wanderer wrote:
>>
>> This is obviously a bug somewhere (albeit probably not a severe one in
>> practice), but I'm not even sure what package the bug would be in.
>>
>> Any hints, or ideas what might be going on here?
>
> I suggest you post this to http://lists.debian.org/deity or report a bug
> against apt.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
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Re: dist-upgrade installs new package, lists it as autoremove candidate

2014-04-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 apr 14, 13:22:03, The Wanderer wrote:
> 
> This is obviously a bug somewhere (albeit probably not a severe one in
> practice), but I'm not even sure what package the bug would be in.
> 
> Any hints, or ideas what might be going on here?

I suggest you post this to http://lists.debian.org/deity or report a bug 
against apt.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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dist-upgrade installs new package, lists it as autoremove candidate

2014-04-25 Thread The Wanderer
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I'm presently seeing a rather odd behavior, in two parts.

My system currently has no installed packages which are considered
candidates for autoremoval:


root@apologia:/home/wanderer# apt-get autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 104 not upgraded.


When I attempt to dist-upgrade, it lists packages for autoremoval. This
is presumably because they will become unneeded after the upgrade of
other packages.

However, one of the packages listed for autoremoval is also in the list
of new packages which will be installed by the dist-upgrade process:


root@apologia:/home/wanderer# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
  librtmp0:i386 libzita-alsa-pcmi0 libzita-resampler1 uuid-dev
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gir1.2-atspi-2.0 libatspi2.0-dev librtmp1 librtmp1:i386
libsdl-gfx1.2-5 libzita-alsa-pcmi0 libzita-resampler1 nettle-dev
startpar uuid-dev


uuid-dev is in both lists. (And is not presently installed.)

This is obviously a bug somewhere (albeit probably not a severe one in
practice), but I'm not even sure what package the bug would be in.

Any hints, or ideas what might be going on here?

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