Re: documentation rant
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:52:32PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > i agree that many times the howtos and stuff are outdated. > very rarely have i referred to them. most often i use > www.alltheweb.com to search and read/join mailing lists .. I prefer google myself, but point taken. It's still difficult to find what you're after though... -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 pgpYSgzAVCUyZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: documentation rant
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 05:22:50AM -0300, John R Lenton wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:10:37AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > > I am so sick of spending hours crawling over HOWTOs from LinuxDoc just > > to > > find out that the documentation is wrong! Worse, tons of people know it's > > wrong, and no one, not the document maintainer, or anyone who's already gone > > through the process of finding out it's wrong, has bothered to update the > > incorrect document! > > I'm therefore assuming you _have_ bothered? Yup. I emailed the maintainer before sending this. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 pgpImQmCqQYbQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: documentation rant
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:52:32PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I am so sick of spending hours crawling over HOWTOs from LinuxDoc > > i agree that many times the howtos and stuff are outdated. > very rarely have i referred to them. most often i use > www.alltheweb.com to search and read/join mailing lists .. wet, sloppy kisses for "alltheweb.com". i hadn't used that one before, though the name was familiar. fast. pertinent. can't beat that! -- DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #22 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: SECURITY-CONSCIOUS? Good! Here's how you can use apt-get to keep your system up-to-date with the latest security patches: in /etc/apt/sources.list include these lines-- deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org potato/updates main contrib non-free Thereafter, a quick "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" is all you need to keep the gremlins at bay. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
Re: documentation rant
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > > I am so sick of spending hours crawling over HOWTOs from LinuxDoc just to > find out that the documentation is wrong! Worse, tons of people know it's > wrong, and no one, not the document maintainer, or anyone who's already gone > through the process of finding out it's wrong, has bothered to update the > incorrect document! This is _the_ #1 discouraging element in Linux today! I'm > sorry, but I can't know everything, and I need good HOWTOs to get through some > tasks. If there are coders reading this who haven't bothered to update docs > lately, please take the time! I hate it too, but it helps so many people. > > Clearly you havn't spent nearly enough time attempting to find any sort of useful documentation at all under windows... Personally - the linux HOWTOs are s far ahead of anything under windows, that I can put up with these probs and just ask the list when they fail. Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order to rush down again. In a way this is funny,... Francis A Schaeffer David Purton http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: documentation rant
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:10:37AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > I am so sick of spending hours crawling over HOWTOs from LinuxDoc just to > find out that the documentation is wrong! Worse, tons of people know it's > wrong, and no one, not the document maintainer, or anyone who's already gone > through the process of finding out it's wrong, has bothered to update the > incorrect document! I'm therefore assuming you _have_ bothered? -- John Lenton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Random fortune: What did you bring that book I didn't want to be read to out of about Down Under up for? pgpDKn6db4LrI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: documentation rant
> > I am so sick of spending hours crawling over HOWTOs from LinuxDoc i agree that many times the howtos and stuff are outdated. very rarely have i referred to them. most often i use www.alltheweb.com to search and read/join mailing lists .. ive very very rarely read howtos, been using linux since 1996.. nate
Re: documentation rant
hi ya yes and no on the out of date howto... if there's particular problem you are trying to solve... i find it 10x easier to use google for those keywords and go thru the mailing lists... if there is one for those particular issues c ya alvin ( and yes...the autofs-HOWTO is out of date tooo...but... my latest toy http://LSEC.linux-consulting.com ... ids, vulnerabilities, scanning ... - use the "grep search" mechanism... On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Matthew Dalton wrote: > "Michael P. Soulier" wrote: > > > > Are you talking about one or two HOWTOs in particular? Which ones? Could > it be that these HOWTOs are distribution-specific? >
Re: documentation rant
"Michael P. Soulier" wrote: > Are you talking about one or two HOWTOs in particular? Which ones? Could it be that these HOWTOs are distribution-specific?
documentation rant
I am so sick of spending hours crawling over HOWTOs from LinuxDoc just to find out that the documentation is wrong! Worse, tons of people know it's wrong, and no one, not the document maintainer, or anyone who's already gone through the process of finding out it's wrong, has bothered to update the incorrect document! This is _the_ #1 discouraging element in Linux today! I'm sorry, but I can't know everything, and I need good HOWTOs to get through some tasks. If there are coders reading this who haven't bothered to update docs lately, please take the time! I hate it too, but it helps so many people. I'm going to bed now. *sigh* Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 pgp4PdYnEpeR9.pgp Description: PGP signature