Re: dpms problems with X 4?

2001-04-09 Thread Chris Majewski
I've had DPMS problems with  4.0.2 as well, though different from what
you  describe.  In my  case,  APM seemed  to  conflict  with DPMS.  In
particular, the sequence

xset dpms force suspend
apm --suspend

did not work as expected (the second line would cancel out the effects
of the first).  FWIW, I've now turned on the  DPMS on suspend option
in  BIOS,  and  commented  out   the  call  to  xset.  This  works  as
advertised. 

-chris

Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello.  I'm having a strange problem with X 4.0.2 (woody) and my Energy
 Star compliant Sony monitor.  I've configured X to use DPMS to turn off
 the monitor after 10 minutes of inactivity with the following line in
 XF86Config-4:
 Option  DPMS
 Option OffTime  10
 
 After the specified period of inactivity, the monitor appears to turn
 itself off, but things get a bit weird.  After some time (a minute or
 two) the monitor clicks as if waking up, and the power indicator
 switches from solid orange to flashing orange/green.  Logging in to the
 system from another machine and using xset to get the status of the 
 monitor (yes, I'm talking to the right X server ;^) indicates that DPMS
 is disabled.  Huh?  It was enabled before!  using 'xset dpms 0 0 600' or
 'xset dpms force off' turns it off for a little while, but then it
 reverts to its weird behavior again.
 
 Until today I had power saving enabled in the system BIOS, but in an
 attempt to isolate the problem I turned it off.  The symptoms remain
 unchanged, though.



Re: dpms problems with X 4?

2001-04-04 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 07:33:08PM -0700, Eric G. Miller wrote:
 Yea, think this is something with the X screensaver.  X screensaver
 probably kicks on at 10 minutes, and doesn't go to Standby 'til 30
 minutes.  Seems the two need to get in sync...

That should not be the case.  According to the xscreesaver man page,
xscreensaver should notice when the X server has kicked in DPMS and shut
the monitor off.  It doesn't manipulate dpms at all.  See the POWER
MANAGEMENT section of the man page.

One very odd thing is the output that 'xset q' gives during this whole
process.  Say I first do 'xset dpms 60 300 600' followed by 'xset q' I
see what I expect: 
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 60Suspend: 300Off: 600
  DPMS is Enabled
  Monitor is Off

However, a few minutes later, 'xset q' gives totally different results:
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 10Suspend: 10Off: 10
  DPMS is Disabled

I could understand if I was running something like GNOME or KDE that
they might want to manage DPMS on their own, and could screw up some of
my settings, but I'm not using them.  The only clients are xscreensaver,
some Eterms, Window Maker, xconsole, and xset.

This strikes me as strange enough to possibly warrant a trip out of the 
comfy confines of the familiar Debian lists and into the unexplored 
region of the XFree86 mailing lists.  8^)

noah

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Re: dpms problems with X 4?

2001-04-04 Thread John Bagdanoff
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 12:06:18AM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 07:33:08PM -0700, Eric G. Miller wrote:
  Yea, think this is something with the X screensaver.  X screensaver
  probably kicks on at 10 minutes, and doesn't go to Standby 'til 30
  minutes.  Seems the two need to get in sync...
 
 That should not be the case.  According to the xscreesaver man page,
 xscreensaver should notice when the X server has kicked in DPMS and shut
 the monitor off.  It doesn't manipulate dpms at all.  See the POWER
 MANAGEMENT section of the man page.
 
 One very odd thing is the output that 'xset q' gives during this whole
 process.  Say I first do 'xset dpms 60 300 600' followed by 'xset q' I
 see what I expect: 
 DPMS (Energy Star):
   Standby: 60Suspend: 300Off: 600
   DPMS is Enabled
   Monitor is Off
 
 However, a few minutes later, 'xset q' gives totally different results:
 DPMS (Energy Star):
   Standby: 10Suspend: 10Off: 10
   DPMS is Disabled

There was a thread about this a week or 2 ago,  it was xscreensaver
that was causing dpms to be disable.  I think Karsten file a bug
against xscreensaver.
John

 
 I could understand if I was running something like GNOME or KDE that
 they might want to manage DPMS on their own, and could screw up some of
 my settings, but I'm not using them.  The only clients are xscreensaver,
 some Eterms, Window Maker, xconsole, and xset.
 
 This strikes me as strange enough to possibly warrant a trip out of the 
 comfy confines of the familiar Debian lists and into the unexplored 
 region of the XFree86 mailing lists.  8^)
 
 noah
 
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dpms problems with X 4?

2001-04-03 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
Hello.  I'm having a strange problem with X 4.0.2 (woody) and my Energy
Star compliant Sony monitor.  I've configured X to use DPMS to turn off
the monitor after 10 minutes of inactivity with the following line in
XF86Config-4:
Option  DPMS
Option OffTime  10

After the specified period of inactivity, the monitor appears to turn
itself off, but things get a bit weird.  After some time (a minute or
two) the monitor clicks as if waking up, and the power indicator
switches from solid orange to flashing orange/green.  Logging in to the
system from another machine and using xset to get the status of the 
monitor (yes, I'm talking to the right X server ;^) indicates that DPMS
is disabled.  Huh?  It was enabled before!  using 'xset dpms 0 0 600' or
'xset dpms force off' turns it off for a little while, but then it
reverts to its weird behavior again.

Until today I had power saving enabled in the system BIOS, but in an
attempt to isolate the problem I turned it off.  The symptoms remain
unchanged, though.

Has anybody else seen such a thing?  I don't remember it happening with
X3 under potato, but it's possible that I wasn't looking when it did.  

Thanks.
noah

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Re: dpms problems with X 4?

2001-04-03 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 10:22:29PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
 Hello.  I'm having a strange problem with X 4.0.2 (woody) and my Energy
 Star compliant Sony monitor.  I've configured X to use DPMS to turn off
 the monitor after 10 minutes of inactivity with the following line in
 XF86Config-4:
 Option  DPMS
 Option OffTime  10
 
 After the specified period of inactivity, the monitor appears to turn
 itself off, but things get a bit weird.  After some time (a minute or
 two) the monitor clicks as if waking up, and the power indicator
 switches from solid orange to flashing orange/green.  Logging in to the
 system from another machine and using xset to get the status of the 
 monitor (yes, I'm talking to the right X server ;^) indicates that DPMS
 is disabled.  Huh?  It was enabled before!  using 'xset dpms 0 0 600' or
 'xset dpms force off' turns it off for a little while, but then it
 reverts to its weird behavior again.
 
 Until today I had power saving enabled in the system BIOS, but in an
 attempt to isolate the problem I turned it off.  The symptoms remain
 unchanged, though.
 
 Has anybody else seen such a thing?  I don't remember it happening with
 X3 under potato, but it's possible that I wasn't looking when it did.  

Yea, think this is something with the X screensaver.  X screensaver
probably kicks on at 10 minutes, and doesn't go to Standby 'til 30
minutes.  Seems the two need to get in sync...

I turned DPMS off in XF86Config and all is well...

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