Re: dumb question about blind upgrades....
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 01:05:37PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Today I typed in apt-get upgrade as root and the machine updated the package > list and > installed 4 more packages and upgraded a lot of security features. > > My fairly dumb question is: did I just get the security package updates or > did I upgrade to > r4? Same thing, you are running r4 now. The current stable receives (mostly) only security updates. > The other question I have is: if I am using Sarge with a bog standard > desktop install with > gnome and open office etc and all I really do is work on word processing and > spreadsheets plus > some web browsing and don't fart around with source installations rpm > installations or > backports etc., then would a blind upgrade to Etch be reasonably safe for me > to proceed with > when it becomes stable? You should at least read the release notes ... > What I think would be useful would be if you ran a small business and you had > ten employees > each running a PC and doing much the same as me and thus their activities > were innocous enough > that you could do a blind upgrade on all the PC's very quickly and know that > it would be OK. > > This would save a lot of farting around that goes on with other OSes. This is one of Debian's strong points. But for a production environment with several identical machines you could test the upgrade on one machine and if everything runs smooth you can upgrade the rest. Minor glitches could still appear, maybe because of customizations done by each user. > I would even go as far as to deliberately avoid using any package in any > configuration that > would make the upgrade harder. Hard to tell which packages can create problems ... > Provided the basic functions above work well, this could go a > long way in many situations and save a lot of time and money. That's the general idea ;) Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dumb question about blind upgrades....
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 13:05 +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Dear Debian people, [...snip...] > I would even go as far as to deliberately avoid using any package in any > configuration that would make the upgrade harder. Provided the basic > functions above work well, this could go a long way in many situations and > save a lot of time and money. > > Comments appreciated. It depends on you "/etc/apt/sources.list" And, Debian has been an "internet connected" distribution for quite a while. It is all about th maintenance... I have a machine that has been hardware upgraded a ton of times. I have also tansferred this image around to many machine I use via liveCD, then tweaked it for that machine and booted it. Debian is one of those distributions you can install once and upgrade continually until the end of Debian (or time whichever comes first (my bet: time comes first) To that end I have one machine "build" I have had since about 2000. It is my favorite machine, it is the one I am currently using. I just added 0.7TB of drive space to it, I was running out. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] The technology that is Stronger, better, faster: Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
dumb question about blind upgrades....
Dear Debian people, I noticed some discussion on the list about blind upgrades. I assume this means that you type apt-get upgrade as root on your machine and let it run as it wishes.. I use Sarge 3.1 r3 on a 1200 MHz AMD Duron chip on a bog standard PC. I loaded it using 15 CD's I downloaded from one of the debian sites. I noticed that it seems as though Sarge 3.1 r4 is now out. When I installed r3 I think I set it up to assume that new packages would come from CDs not the internet except for security updates which it gets from the debian security web address. Today I typed in apt-get upgrade as root and the machine updated the package list and installed 4 more packages and upgraded a lot of security features. My fairly dumb question is: did I just get the security package updates or did I upgrade to r4? The other question I have is: if I am using Sarge with a bog standard desktop install with gnome and open office etc and all I really do is work on word processing and spreadsheets plus some web browsing and don't fart around with source installations rpm installations or backports etc., then would a blind upgrade to Etch be reasonably safe for me to proceed with when it becomes stable? What I think would be useful would be if you ran a small business and you had ten employees each running a PC and doing much the same as me and thus their activities were innocous enough that you could do a blind upgrade on all the PC's very quickly and know that it would be OK. This would save a lot of farting around that goes on with other OSes. I would even go as far as to deliberately avoid using any package in any configuration that would make the upgrade harder. Provided the basic functions above work well, this could go a long way in many situations and save a lot of time and money. Comments appreciated. Michael Fothergill _ Find Singles In Your Area Now With Match.com! msnuk.match.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
