ERRATUM Re: Repeated failure of install of Jessie

2016-03-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 March 2016 18:15:30 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 March 2016 17:42:14 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016, at 07:21, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > Yes, I have finally found out.  It's a Giga-Byte GA-H110M-S2H.
> >
> > Oho, that tells me a lot.
>
> Thank you so much, Henrique.  I am about to go away and am a bit rushed, so
> what you have told me is that I had better not touch it until I get back!
> And perhaps should consider Scratch.

  Stretch. 

Blame senility and its accompanying aphasia. :-(

Lisi

> Or hold my nose and stay on Ubuntu 
> for a bit.  I'll deal with it next week and report back.
>
> > First, it tells me your specific motherboard and processor won't work
> > well (as in it will be quite crash-prone) *unless* you updated its
> > "BIOS" (really, UEFI) since about a week ago.  Did you?
> >
> > http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5606#bios
>
> No, I haven't updated it.  And I am not even going to try and update the
> BIOS while I am feeling rushed and stressed and am very short of time.
>
> > Second, it tells me you have a 6th gen Intel Core processor (aka Intel
> > "Skylake"), which, on top of requiring a very recent BIOS to be stable,
> > also wants a Linux kernel with some very recent fixes...  fixes that
> > even the very latest Debian installer kernel is unlikely to have *yet*.
> > The Ubuntu installer has a different kernel than Debian's, so it will
> > behave differently (and from your report, it does *much* better on Intel
> > Skylake-based systems right now).
>
> If I manage to get it on at all, the first thing I shall have to do is
> obviously install a backports kernel!
>
> > BTW, Gigabye is shipping outdated components on that brand new BIOS
> > update for your motherboard (at least the processor microcode is far
> > older than it should be), which isn't a good sign at all.  Still, it
> > should be much better than the defective Intel firmware that is inside
> > their next-to-latest BIOS for that motherboard, so, please update your
> > BIOS if you didn't do that already.
> >
> > Do be careful while updating your BIOS, it is the kind of thing you need
> > to get right at the first time. If you don't have a second computer,
> > print out the update instructions and also the "recovery instructions"
> > for when things go wrong. Have whatever is necessary for the recovery
> > procedure prepared ahead of time.  Read everything carefully.  Find a
> > way to minimize the risk of a power loss during the BIOS update.
> >
> > And get used to it: you bought an Intel Skykale system, you also bought
> > the need for periodic BIOS updates for a while yet... even if it wasn't
> > written like that in the tin ;-)
> >
> > Anyway, after the BIOS update, please give another try at the installer.
> >  Hopefully, it will work, but given the outdated microcode inside that
> > latest BIOS update, it might not fix everything that it could/should.
> >
> > If the installer still hangs even after the BIOS update, please try to
> > add the boot parameter: "intel_idle.max_cstate=7".  If that doesn't
> > work, try it with "intel_idle.max_cstate=0", which will switch the
> > kernel to a safer -- but a lot less efficient -- idle driver
> > ("acpi_idle").  When using "acpi_idle", the BIOS settings matter a lot
> > more, so you may try changing them too (set the maximum C state in BIOS
> > to 7 as well, or maybe to 3 if that doesn't work).
> >
> > Boot parameters for the installer:
> > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s03.html.en
> > (it is the same for amd64).
> >
> > Also, try both text mode and graphical mode for the installer, much of
> > the kernel issues with Skylake are related to the Intel GPU, so which
> > mode you use might make a difference.
> >
> > Last point: some people experiencing Skylake hangs had to RMA their
> > Intel processor, and it helped some while others did not report any
> > change.  But these were "K" processors -- the ones for overclocking. I
> > found no reports of RMAs helping users of non-K processors.  I don't
> > think it is your case anyway, because your system behaved much better
> > under Ubuntu, while those who had broken processors had the same hang
> > issues on every O.S they tried, even Windows 10.
> >
> :-(
>
> Thank you so much, Henry.  I'll report back if I am still upright and sane
> after all this!!
>
> Lisi



Stupid ERRATUM was Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 20 March 2016 18:53:02 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 20 March 2016 18:43:03 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > And since all this is also going to bring in systemd, and I've not a clue
> > if the real app, one that must run, the sim version of linuxcnc will run
> > on a jessie install.
>
> You can install 32 bit 

I meant 64 bit, of course.  Senility creeps on apace. :-(  Stupid fingers.

Lisi

> Wheezy - though I agree that I wouldn't at this 
> stage. And you can install Jessie without systemd, if you want to do so.
>
> Lisi



ERRATUM Re: adobe flash player in Iceweasel does not work anymore in Jessie

2015-09-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 11 September 2015 23:59:15 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Again, that you all very much.

Again, thaNK you all very much.
Lisi



ERRATUM: Re: Boot up is not Completing, it is Cycling

2014-04-07 Thread Lisi Reisz
It just wasn't my day (week?  And to think taht I used tio love silver 
birches!).  I sent this immediatel;y after the other, and managed ot 
send it to myself. :-(  Sorry, Ray. :-(

On Sunday 06 April 2014 17:47:31 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Sunday 06 April 2014 06:54:53 Chris Bannister wrote:
> > $ man dmesg
>
> $ man dmesg > text.txt

Sorry, you want:
$ dmesg > text.txt

> You will get a text file that you can read properly, and even
> change the font if you want to.
>
> If you want to be able to use gedit to alter root owned files,
> there are two ways (other than logging in as root at the command
> line) that you can achieve this:
> 1.  Open a root terminal by your preferred method, at the command
> prompt type gedit.  gedit will then be running as root.
> 2.do alt-F2.  in the window taht will open up type :
> gksu gedit
> then "enter"
> Again, gedit will be running as root.
>
> HTH
> Lisi


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Re: ERRATUM Re: how to remove ? directory

2014-01-28 Thread John Hasler
Lisi writes:
> The whole point was that it is difficult 
> to remove a directory that has things in it.

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ERRATUM Re: how to remove ? directory

2014-01-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 28 January 2014 11:05:33 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> # rm .gvfs 

ERRATUM!

# rmdir .gvfs

sorry. :-( Typo, I'm afraid.  The whole point was that it is difficult 
to remove a directory that has things in it.

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ERRATUM: Re: Linux 5.0 and 6.0 squeeze installation problem

2013-09-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 26 September 2013 16:58:49 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Did you burn and image or copy the files?

Sorry.  Burn **an** image

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Re: Number of Debian packages available. ERRATUM

2012-10-16 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 16 October 2012 11:30:41 Lisi wrote:
> Approximately, in round terms, how may packages are available in Debian
   
> (Squeeze?)
> 1. in main
> 2. in main, contrib and non-free

many, not may :-(

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Re: how to uninstall gnome totally? - erratum

2012-09-11 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 12 September 2012 07:14:34 Lisi wrote:
> chose

choose

One day I'll succeed in learning to type :-(

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674 ERRATUM

2012-05-03 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 03 May 2012 09:58:08 Lisi wrote:
> recieving

Ouch!  receiving


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Re: Squeeze and root in graphical mode - ERRATUM

2011-07-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 July 2011 18:06:55 Lisi wrote:
>  that won't *key* you log

that won't *let* you.

Sorry - I'm a lousy typist. :-(



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Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Lisi  wrote:
> On Monday 06 June 2011 21:25:52 Tom H wrote:
>>
>> You mean "apt-get dist-upgrade" ("aptitude full-upgrade" is the
>> aptitude equivalent).
>
> Thanks - I am much more familiar with aptitude.

You're welcome. I use apt-get but the aptitude options make more sense (to me).


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Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 21:25:52 Tom H wrote:
> You mean "apt-get dist-upgrade" ("aptitude full-upgrade" is the
> aptitude equivalent).

Thanks - I am much more familiar with aptitude.  Because aptitude 
has "switched" (by recommendation, not by formal instructions) from aptitude 
dist-upgrade to aptitude full-upgrade I assumed - falsely it transpires - 
that apt-get had done the same. :-(

Lisi


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Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Lisi  wrote:
> On Monday 06 June 2011 20:14:34 Lisi wrote:
>>
>> The fact that you are unfamiliar with apt-get update
>
> should, of course, be apt-get full-upgrade.

You mean "apt-get dist-upgrade" ("aptitude full-upgrade" is the
aptitude equivalent).


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Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 20:14:34 Lisi wrote:
> The fact that you are unfamiliar with apt-get update

should, of course, be apt-get full-upgrade.  Sorry :-(  I'm a lousy typist and 
teh keyboard seems to affect my brain.

Lisi

> is not strictly 
> relevant here, though if someone who is familiar with it wishes to correct
> me, I shall be happy to listen.  I use aptitude not apt and there are some
> differences. This may be one such.



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Re: erratum

2010-12-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 27 dec 10, 10:19:15, green wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote at 2010-12-27 04:40 -0600:
> > On Sb, 18 dec 10, 21:01:12, Frank McCormick wrote:
> > >Use it for a while...you just may change your mind. Speedier than
> > > the foxand enough extensions to make your head swim
> > 
> > Unfortunately vrome is no match for vimperator :(
> 
> Then perhaps vimperator is no match for uzbl?

How does one open (follow) a link in a new tab with uzbl-tabbed?

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Re: erratum

2010-12-27 Thread green
Andrei Popescu wrote at 2010-12-27 04:40 -0600:
> On Sb, 18 dec 10, 21:01:12, Frank McCormick wrote:
> >Use it for a while...you just may change your mind. Speedier than
> > the foxand enough extensions to make your head swim
> 
> Unfortunately vrome is no match for vimperator :(

Then perhaps vimperator is no match for uzbl?


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Re: erratum

2010-12-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 18 dec 10, 21:01:12, Frank McCormick wrote:
> 
> 
>Use it for a while...you just may change your mind. Speedier than
> the foxand enough extensions to make your head swim

Unfortunately vrome is no match for vimperator :(

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Re: erratum

2010-12-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Frank McCormick wrote:

On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 23:04:31 +
Lisi  wrote:


On Saturday 18 December 2010 13:50:52 green wrote:

Lisi wrote at 2010-12-18 05:21 -0600:

Can anyone explain this* (which is the reason why I have not yet
installed Chromium).

* l...@tux:~$ aptitude show chromium

$ apt-cache search chromium
That would just give the same result: the information that Chromium is a game.  
I had tried aptitude search as well, but not surprisingly it said the same.  



It will be available when I move to squeeze, but meanwhile I have installed 
Google's .deb.


I just wanted to have a look at it, but so far am not impressed.



   Use it for a while...you just may change your mind. Speedier than
the foxand enough extensions to make your head swim




Except, no backpage with the topwheel, and no fast scroll with middle click

Hugo


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Re: erratum

2010-12-18 Thread Frank McCormick
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 23:04:31 +
Lisi  wrote:

> On Saturday 18 December 2010 13:50:52 green wrote:
> > Lisi wrote at 2010-12-18 05:21 -0600:
> > > Can anyone explain this* (which is the reason why I have not yet
> > > installed Chromium).
> > >
> > > * l...@tux:~$ aptitude show chromium
> >
> > $ apt-cache search chromium
> 
> That would just give the same result: the information that Chromium is a 
> game.  
> I had tried aptitude search as well, but not surprisingly it said the same.  
> 
>
> It will be available when I move to squeeze, but meanwhile I have installed 
> Google's .deb.
> 
> I just wanted to have a look at it, but so far am not impressed.


   Use it for a while...you just may change your mind. Speedier than
the foxand enough extensions to make your head swim


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Re: erratum

2010-12-18 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 18 December 2010 13:50:52 green wrote:
> Lisi wrote at 2010-12-18 05:21 -0600:
> > Can anyone explain this* (which is the reason why I have not yet
> > installed Chromium).
> >
> > * l...@tux:~$ aptitude show chromium
>
> $ apt-cache search chromium

That would just give the same result: the information that Chromium is a game.  
I had tried aptitude search as well, but not surprisingly it said the same.  

I should have been searching for chromium-browser as has been said by other 
posters.  But when I did it I got a nil result because it is not available in 
either Lenny or Lenny-backports.  

It will be available when I move to squeeze, but meanwhile I have installed 
Google's .deb.

I just wanted to have a look at it, but so far am not impressed.

Lisi


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Re: erratum

2010-12-18 Thread green
Lisi wrote at 2010-12-18 05:21 -0600:
> Can anyone explain this* (which is the reason why I have not yet installed 
> Chromium).

> * l...@tux:~$ aptitude show chromium

$ apt-cache search chromium


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Re: erratum

2010-12-18 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 11:21:39 +, Lisi wrote:

> Can anyone explain this* (which is the reason why I have not yet
> installed Chromium).
> 
> Thanks,
> Lisi
> 
> * l...@tux:~$ aptitude show chromium

You better search for the package name:

s...@stt008:~$ apt-cache search chromium
chromium-data - data pack for chromium
chromium - fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter

And none of them seems to be the Google's browser, so I think is not 
available for lenny (as other people already pointed out, the complete 
name of the package is "chromium-browser":

http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/chromium-browser 

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Re: [OT] Re: google chrome "big brother" - erratum

2010-12-18 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 11:25:13 + Lisi  shared
this with us all:

>> > AFAIK, what is open source is Chromium but not Chrome.  
>>
>> Can anyone explain this* (which is the reason why I have not yet
>> installed Chromium).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lisi

~$ aptitude search chromium-browser
i   chromium-browser  - Chromium
browser p   chromium-browser-dbg  -
chromium-browser debug symbols i A
chromium-browser-inspector- page inspector for
the chromium-browser p
chromium-browser-l10n - chromium-browser
language packages

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Re: [OT] Re: google chrome "big brother" - erratum

2010-12-18 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 18 December 2010 11:19:34 Lisi wrote:
> On Friday 17 December 2010 18:48:42 Camaleón wrote:
> > On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 09:41:55 -0800, S Mathias wrote:
> > > Google Chrome Terms of Service(Google Chrome executable), BSD (source
> > > code and Chromium executable except chromium 5 beta),BSD License with
> > > proprietary parts (source code and chromium 5 beta executable, as it
> > > integrates Adobe Flash Player 10.1[1])[2]
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome in my interpretation, this
> > > means Google Chrome is fully open-source, only the flash player has
> > > proprietary codes. am i right, or i'm missing something? i would be
> > > happy if someone could correct me. thank you!!
> > > *ps.: because "they" say google is the "big brother"
> >
> > AFAIK, what is open source is Chromium but not Chrome.
>
> Can anyone explain this* (which is the reason why I have not yet installed
> Chromium).
>
> Thanks,
> Lisi
>
 *l...@tux:~$ aptitude show chromium
 Package: chromium
 State: not installed 
 Version: 0.9.13.2-1
> Priority: optional
> Section: games
> Maintainer: Debian Games Team 
> Uncompressed Size: 373k
> Depends: libalut0 (>= 1.1.0-1), libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libfontconfig1 (>=
> 2.4.0), libftgl2 (>=
>  2.1.3~rc5), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1,
> libglpng, libglu1-mesa |
>  libglu1, libopenal1, libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1), libstdc++6 (>=
> 4.1.1),
>  chromium-data (>= 0.9.12), ttf-uralic
> Description: fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter
>  Chromium is a top down fast paced high action scrolling space shooter
> which uses the SDL libs.
>  In this game you are the captain of the cargo  ship Chromium B.S.U., and
> responsible for
>  delivering supplies to our troops on the front line. Your ship has a small
> fleet of robotic
>  fighters which you control from the relative safety of the Chromium
> vessel. Homepage: http://chromium-bsu.sourceforge.net/



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erratum

2010-12-18 Thread Lisi
Can anyone explain this* (which is the reason why I have not yet installed 
Chromium).

Thanks,
Lisi

* l...@tux:~$ aptitude show chromium


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[ERRATUM] Re: why there is no sound output from the front audio pane

2010-11-04 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 04. 11. 2010 10:13:07 je Klistvud napisal(a):



If the latter, I can only add these 2 cents: on my desktop machine  
with an Intel motherboard, the front audio headers require special  
(Windows-only, of course) software to fully work. They do work per  
se, but if you want to enable rear jack muting (so that your main  
speakers get muted when you plug in the headphones in the front audio  
jack), you have to install Windows, and load a special Windows driver.




Ooops, that's a disinformation; I mixed up two distinct features from  
two distinct motherboards and managed to make a compete mess. The above  
motherboard *does not require Windows* for the said functionality to  
work, it just requires a *special chassis* with custom cabling.


Sorry about the disinformation.

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Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive - erratum

2010-09-08 Thread Lisi
pick, not pisk :-(

Lisi


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Re: Erratum - Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-04 Thread Lisi
On Monday 04 January 2010 06:31:57 Chris Jones wrote:
> > Erratum: proprietorial :-(  
> >
> > I am a lousy typist - but I cannot work out how my finger hits "a" when I
> > aim for "e".  It happens, however, quite often. :-(
>
> Whichever way you spell it, I don't think there is such a word..??

There is - I have just checked it in Chambers 20th Century and Shorter Oxford.  
It is in both.

Seminal means something completely different.

Lisi


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Re: Erratum - Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 07:02:08PM EST, Lisi wrote:
> On Sunday 03 January 2010 23:49:12 Lisi wrote:
> > propriatorial
> 
> Erratum: proprietorial :-(  
> 
> I am a lousy typist - but I cannot work out how my finger hits "a" when I aim 
> for "e".  It happens, however, quite often. :-(

Whichever way you spell it, I don't think there is such a word..?? 

I quite understand what you mean though.. and spent the last couple of
hours in frustration, trying to find the right word for this, convinced
I had it at the tip of my tongue.. I thought for a minute that 'seminal'
was the word but I don't think it is.

CJ


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Erratum - Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 January 2010 23:49:12 Lisi wrote:
> propriatorial

Erratum: proprietorial :-(  

I am a lousy typist - but I cannot work out how my finger hits "a" when I aim 
for "e".  It happens, however, quite often. :-(

Lisi


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erratum, was: Re: Why did you chose Debian over CentOS?

2009-03-06 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 06 March 2009 08:24:10 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 06 March 2009 04:17:09 Alan Hutchinson wrote:
> > I am trying to install DEBIAN LENNY beta 2
>
> Why use a beta?  Why not use the 

> s/just-released newly released/newly released 

> stable, Debian 5 aka Lenny?

:-(
Lisi



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Re: PAM authentication file erratum

1998-01-28 Thread James Troup
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Please forgive me if this has been posted before, but I think there
> is a mistake in the file /etc/pam.d/other that is distributed with
> the standard install of debian.

You're right; this is bug #10497, #10758 and #12030.  It's fixed by
the latest release of PAM in hamm.
 
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PAM authentication file erratum

1998-01-28 Thread Chris

Please forgive me if this has been posted before, but I think there is a
mistake in the file /etc/pam.d/other that is distributed with the standard
install of debian.

The file contains the service in the first field (ie. the keyword OTHER)
which is not required, since it is in the conf file other, and causes
numerous errors upon connections using pam (most noticeably netatalk and
samba).

Chris


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