Re: error in fdisk/cfdisk? (part 2)
>If you are going to use linux with that drive then you must use NORMAL >mode. I noticed that number of heads affect how much DOS FDISK says size >to be use. This drive have only 9 heads and lots of cylinders, so 1024 >cylinders mean only 283 MB room for DOS. My another drive have 15 heads >and there is about 480 MB room for dos, not 519 MB.. > >You must use diskmanager program if you want more disk to dos. I check >quantums diskmanager for fireball and I didn't install it. It wanted to >repartion of hole drive and that was last thing what I want... Where do I get diskmanager ? >Set dos compatiblity flag off when you do new partitios to drive. It do >that kind partition overlays... --- Accept the challenge! http://fbma.tuwien.ac.at/~e8426331/ ... and write to me ! --- -- E-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST. Trouble? E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: error in fdisk/cfdisk? (part 2)
You probably have an old BIOS. Old bios is known not to recognize HD over 528M, unless special measures, such as LBA, are incoperated. Besides, I think that DOS would not recognize a partition that is over 2.1G. I use Linux with a HD that the BIOS sees as LBA. Does all this BIOS/DOS problems are causing problems with Linux ? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: error in fdisk/cfdisk? (part 2)
You provided the following partition table: >Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/hdc1 63 63 13097665457 82 Linux Swap > /dev/hdc2 * 130977 130977 2588354 1228689 83 Linux native > /dev/hdc32322431 2588355 6684362 2048004 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M > /dev/hdc46386687 6684363 8418815 867226+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M > (v)erify gives: > Warning: partition 2 overlays partition 3. > partition 3 overlays partition 4. > 60 unallocated sectors. This should be OK for linux, despite the warning. As I understand it, fdisk gets values for the begin column from the bios, but the other columns are calculated by fdisk. The bios figures are wrong when they refer to cylinders above 1024. The verify results are based on the bios data, and always show overlaps in disks with over 1024 cylinders. For example, here is the partition table for my first drive: Disk /dev/hda: 15 heads, 63 sectors, 14475 cylinders Units = cylinders of 945 * 512 bytes Device Boot BeginStart End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 *11 1104 521608+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M /dev/hda2 1024 110510348 4367790 85 Linux extended /dev/hda3102401034912412 975240 83 Linux native /dev/hda4122881241314475 974767+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda5 1024 1105 5440 2048728+ 83 Linux native /dev/hda6 5120 5441 6091 307566 83 Linux native /dev/hda7 5120 6092 622261866 82 Linux swap /dev/hda8 6144 6223 8285 974736 83 Linux native /dev/hda9 8192 8286 8502 102501 83 Linux native /dev/hda108192 850310348 872203+ 83 Linux native Command (m for help): v Warning: partition 3 overlaps partition 4. Warning: partition 1 overlaps partition 5. Warning: partition 5 overlaps partition 6. Warning: partition 5 overlaps partition 7. Warning: partition 6 overlaps partition 7. Warning: partition 7 overlaps partition 8. Warning: partition 8 overlaps partition 9. Warning: partition 3 overlaps partition 10. Warning: partition 8 overlaps partition 10. Warning: partition 9 overlaps partition 10. Logical partition 5 not entirely in partition 2 390333 unallocated sectors Despite these warnings, I use all of these partitions regularly, with no problems. The DOS fdisk table you sent is weird! It appears to be a mixture of DOS' fdisk /status command with the partition table from a normal fdisk command. Your 549 mb drive would be C: in DOS nomenclature, the CD would be D:, and your 4.3 gb drive E:, so that partition table is partly right in its drive letter assignments. Is the CD properly jumpered as a slave? I don't really think that would cause such problems. I don't think the LILO information in the MBR would cause any problems for DOS. Does your bios support LBA? If so, is it enabled or disabled? I suggest you switch it and see if that has any effect. If your bios doesn't support LBA, DOS can't recognize more than 1024 cylinders unless you run one of the programs the the disk manufacturers provide. I don't know how these work, and I don't know if linux will read the disk correctly after one of them is installed, so I have never tried one. To sum up: I think your drive, as partitioned, will work fine in linux, but I don't know what you should do about the DOS partitions. There is a better chance of making it work if you put the DOS partition first in the drive. Linux doesn't care where it is, except that I understand if you use LILO the boot partition must be within the first 1024 cylinders. (I use loadlin, and am not familiar with LILO details.) Good Luck -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) Palm City, FL USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: error in fdisk/cfdisk? (part 2)
On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Helmut Leinfellner wrote: > Here's a little more detail: > > At startup the BIOS recognizes the size of the first drive on the primary > controller correctly (519 MB), the second drive is a CD-ROM, and the first > drive on the second primary controller is another hard-disk, the one with > the 4-fold partition. BIOS does NOT recognizes the size correctly. It says > 82 MB, really it is 4.3 GB ! It has 14848 Cylinders, 9 heads, 63 sectors. Well, I have two 4.3 hardrives and BIOS shows same thing to me. First hardrive has 9 heads and shows that 82MB and another have 15 heads and show something over hundres MB, but not what it supposed to be... > I already did as you suggested and cleared the partition table, rewrote it, > but the effect was the same. > DOS FDISK doesn't even recognize the size of the whole disk (4.3 GB) it > says 283 MB ! > Here's more info: > BIOS: > = > User Size Precomp LANDZ SECTORS MODE > 82 148489 65535 14847 63 NORMAL > 82524 255 0 14847 63 LBA > 82 7424 18 65535 14847 63 LARGE > If you are going to use linux with that drive then you must use NORMAL mode. I noticed that number of heads affect how much DOS FDISK says size to be use. This drive have only 9 heads and lots of cylinders, so 1024 cylinders mean only 283 MB room for DOS. My another drive have 15 heads and there is about 480 MB room for dos, not 519 MB.. You must use diskmanager program if you want more disk to dos. I check quantums diskmanager for fireball and I didn't install it. It wanted to repartion of hole drive and that was last thing what I want... > I'm running LILO. Maybe DOS FDISK is confused because Lilo rewrote the MBR ? I dont't think so... > (v)erify gives: > Warning: partition 2 overlays partition 3. > partition 3 overlays partition 4. > 60 unallocated sectors. Set dos compatiblity flag off when you do new partitios to drive. It do that kind partition overlays... |\ _,,,---,,_ ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. -Sigmund Freud - Jouni Jukkala Taitoniekantie 9 B203 Puh:014-607157 e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
error in fdisk/cfdisk? (part 2)
Hi! Thanks for your help! Bob> What is your current status? Is anything already installed on Bob> this disk? If not, all partitions should be removed and recreated. Not really, I can delete everything on the disk again. Bob> If some things are installed that need to be saved, it would be Bob> advisable to back them up, and start over. If you want to try to Bob> repair this instead of replacing it, please send me a copy of the Bob> partition tables from fdisk (including the disk geometry data that Bob> fdisk prints at the top of the partition table) _and_ from DOS fdisk, Bob> noting which partitions have files installed on them. Here's a little more detail: At startup the BIOS recognizes the size of the first drive on the primary controller correctly (519 MB), the second drive is a CD-ROM, and the first drive on the second primary controller is another hard-disk, the one with the 4-fold partition. BIOS does NOT recognizes the size correctly. It says 82 MB, really it is 4.3 GB ! It has 14848 Cylinders, 9 heads, 63 sectors. I already did as you suggested and cleared the partition table, rewrote it, but the effect was the same. DOS FDISK doesn't even recognize the size of the whole disk (4.3 GB) it says 283 MB ! DOS FDISK gets confused about the CDROM and the 4th partition. Its output is: Partition Status TypeName MB System Percentage 1Non-DOS64 23% # used (Linux swap) 2 ANon-DOS 1200 100% # used (Linux native) D: 3Pri-DOS Chip 2000 CD01 100% # empty E: 4Pri-DOS Test 847 FAT16 100% # empty You see, it recognizes the sizes of the partitions correctly, but it thinks the CDROM is the third partition and gets confused about the drive letters D: and E: ! Here's more info: BIOS: = User Size Precomp LANDZ SECTORS MODE 82 148489 65535 14847 63 NORMAL 82524 255 0 14847 63 LBA 82 7424 18 65535 14847 63 LARGE I'm running LILO. Maybe DOS FDISK is confused because Lilo rewrote the MBR ? Here's what cfdisk prints: == # Type 1st Sec LastSec Offset Length Filysystem TypeFlags 1 Primary0 130976 63 130977 Linux Swap (82) None (00) 2 Primary 130977 2588354 0 2457378 Linux (83) Boot (80) 3 Primary 2588355 6684362 0 4096008 DOS FAT 16 (big) (06) None (00) 4 Primary 6684363 8418815 0 1734453 DOS FAT 16 (big) (06) None (00) Here's what fdisk prints: = Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 63 63 13097665457 82 Linux Swap /dev/hdc2 * 130977 130977 2588354 1228689 83 Linux native /dev/hdc32322431 2588355 6684362 2048004 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M /dev/hdc46386687 6684363 8418815 867226+ 6 DOS 16-bit >=32M There's the errors (I guess): 2588355 - 2322431 = 265924 6684363 - 6386687 = 297676 (v)erify gives: Warning: partition 2 overlays partition 3. partition 3 overlays partition 4. 60 unallocated sectors. (x)perts, then (u) and (p)rint gives: Nr AF Hd Sec Cyl Hd Sec Cyl Start SizeID 1 00 1 108 63 23063130914 82 2 80 0 1231 8 63 1023 130977 2457378 83 3 00 8 63 1023 8 63 1023 2588355 4096008 06 4 00 8 63 1023 8 63 1023 6684363 1734453 06 Many many thanks for your help ! Helmut --- Accept the challenge! http://fbma.tuwien.ac.at/~e8426331/ ... and write to me ! --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: error in fdisk/cfdisk ?
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 Helmut Leinfellner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hi there ! > > I've partitioned my hard drive with fdisk / cfdisk this way: > > Pri 1 Linux Swap (64 MB) > Pri 2 Linux native (1200 MB) > Pro 3 DOS (2 GB) ^^^- Should this be "Pri"? > Pri 4 Extended DOS (4-part. 800 MB) > > When I verify with fdisk it (correctly!) tells me that partition 3 starts > WITHIN partition 2 ! Something is obviously broken here! > As a consequence, DOS can't read the partition and doesn't give the correct > sizes of partitions 3+4 (only about 249 MB). > > It can't use DOS FDISK to correctly set the partitions either, because it > doesn't even recognize the overall size of the hard drive (4.3 GB) ! > > What now ? =:o > > Thanks a lot, Helmut What is your current status? Is anything already installed on this disk? If not, all partitions should be removed and recreated. If some things are installed that need to be saved, it would be advisable to back them up, and start over. If you want to try to repair this instead of replacing it, please send me a copy of the partition tables from fdisk (including the disk geometry data that fdisk prints at the top of the partition table) _and_ from DOS fdisk, noting which partitions have files installed on them. -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) Palm City, FL USAPGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
error in fdisk/cfdisk ?
Hi there ! I've partitioned my hard drive with fdisk / cfdisk this way: Pri 1 Linux Swap (64 MB) Pri 2 Linux native (1200 MB) Pro 3 DOS (2 GB) Pri 4 Extended DOS (4-part. 800 MB) When I verify with fdisk it (correctly!) tells me that partition 3 starts WITHIN partition 2 ! As a consequence, DOS can't read the partition and doesn't give the correct sizes of partitions 3+4 (only about 249 MB). It can't use DOS FDISK to correctly set the partitions either, because it doesn't even recognize the overall size of the hard drive (4.3 GB) ! What now ? =:o Thanks a lot, Helmut --- Accept the challenge! http://fbma.tuwien.ac.at/~e8426331/ ... and write to me ! --- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
