Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-29 Thread Russell L. Harris
Andrew Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi
> On Sunday 17 September 2006 23:19, Peter Thomassen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm still introducing a friend of mine to Linux by phone.
>>
>> Yesterday and the days before, his Realtek 8139 NCI worked out of the box
>> using DHCP. Today, no IP is received over DHCP; instead, the boot script
>> does several tries after different intervals and finally gives up.
>>
> [snip]
>> After the reboot, I noticed that 8139too wasn't loaded, so we modprobe'd
>> it; then ifdown eth0, ifup eth0. No success.
>>
>> Maybe it's useful to know that dmesg says that eth0 is a Realtek 8139. I
>> don't know what to do -- do you?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
>
> I've had something similar happen with my desktop.  
>
> Similar hardware, realtek 8139 PCI ethernet card.
>
> If I hibernate the computer from windows (either 2000 or vista), windows 
> somehow disables the NIC.  The router no longer shows a connection.  
>
> Linux doesn't manage to enable the NIC during bootup, (the moduels are 
> loaded, it thinks the interface is up, but the router still shows no 
> connection) and I need to boot windows to fix things.  

After wasting many hours over the past several years trying to get a
Netgear card with the Realtek chip running reliably in various machines
running various releases of Debian, I finally got smart, took a pair of
pliers, and physically removed the PCI connector, by bending and
twisting.  A hammer and anvil repeatedly applied over the surface of the
card would have been quicker and just as effective, and likely would
have been more satisfying.

My conclusion is that life is too short to waste it messing around with
Netgear apparatus.

RLH


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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-29 Thread Andrew Vaughan
Hi
On Sunday 17 September 2006 23:19, Peter Thomassen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm still introducing a friend of mine to Linux by phone.
>
> Yesterday and the days before, his Realtek 8139 NCI worked out of the box
> using DHCP. Today, no IP is received over DHCP; instead, the boot script
> does several tries after different intervals and finally gives up.
>
[snip]
> After the reboot, I noticed that 8139too wasn't loaded, so we modprobe'd
> it; then ifdown eth0, ifup eth0. No success.
>
> Maybe it's useful to know that dmesg says that eth0 is a Realtek 8139. I
> don't know what to do -- do you?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter

I've had something similar happen with my desktop.  

Similar hardware, realtek 8139 PCI ethernet card.

If I hibernate the computer from windows (either 2000 or vista), windows 
somehow disables the NIC.  The router no longer shows a connection.  

Linux doesn't manage to enable the NIC during bootup, (the moduels are 
loaded, it thinks the interface is up, but the router still shows no 
connection) and I need to boot windows to fix things.  

Andrew V.


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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-19 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 22:49 +0200, Peter Thomassen wrote:
> > I ask because I have a sound card that disappears if I do this.
> > It will only work if I shut down and then boot into Linux.

Blast from the past!   This brings back memories from the good old BeOS
days when you *had* to boot into Windows first and then warm reboot to
get some hardware to work...

Hans


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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 10:49:11PM +0200, Peter Thomassen wrote:
> George Borisov schrieb am Montag, 18. September 2006 15:36:
> > Did it by any chance stop working after you rebooted into Debian
> > from Windows?
> > 
> > I ask because I have a sound card that disappears if I do this.
> > It will only work if I shut down and then boot into Linux.
> 
> Hey, thanks, that did the trick! Strange issue ... seems to be a bug, but a
> bug of what? BIOS, Windows? Linux?

some register isn't getting reset in a warm reboot? hard to say
whether that's a bug or a feature, but it does point out the reason
for tech support telling people to actually shutdown for 30 seconds or
so and then restarting (this assumes you use one of those OSes that
requires regular rebooting :)

A


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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-18 Thread Peter Thomassen
George Borisov schrieb am Montag, 18. September 2006 15:36:
> Did it by any chance stop working after you rebooted into Debian
> from Windows?
> 
> I ask because I have a sound card that disappears if I do this.
> It will only work if I shut down and then boot into Linux.

Hey, thanks, that did the trick! Strange issue ... seems to be a bug, but a
bug of what? BIOS, Windows? Linux?

Thanks again,
Peter


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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-18 Thread Bill Smith

Peter Thomassen wrote:

Bill Smith schrieb am Montag, 18. September 2006 18:09:

worth replacing the card, preferably with a 3com or intel based one.


That's not that easy as it's a notebook ...


Can you turn it off in the bios and try a slot in one?


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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-18 Thread Peter Thomassen
Bill Smith schrieb am Montag, 18. September 2006 18:09:
> worth replacing the card, preferably with a 3com or intel based one.

That's not that easy as it's a notebook ...

Peter


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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-18 Thread Bill Smith

steef wrote:

Peter Thomassen wrote:

Hi,

I'm still introducing a friend of mine to Linux by phone.

Yesterday and the days before, his Realtek 8139 NCI worked out of the box
using DHCP. Today, no IP is received over DHCP; instead, the boot script
does several tries after different intervals and finally gives up.

I googled around and found a hint that the Firewire interface can occupy
eth0, and indeed, eth1 was present (which I assumed to be the NIC), but
replacing eth0 by eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces didn't work. Also 
undoing
that change, blacklisting eth1394 in /etc/modules.d/blacklist and 
rebooting

didn't solve it.

After the reboot, I noticed that 8139too wasn't loaded, so we 
modprobe'd it;

then ifdown eth0, ifup eth0. No success.

Maybe it's useful to know that dmesg says that eth0 is a Realtek 8139. I
don't know what to do -- do you?

Thanks,
Peter


  
maybe a stupid remark, but could this be a hardware-fault of the realtek 
ethernetcard? i remember that in my machines two gave up for unclear 
reasons.


Could well be the problem, I too have had realteks just stop working,
worth replacing the card, preferably with a 3com or intel based one.

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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-18 Thread George Borisov
Peter Thomassen wrote:
> 
> I don't think so because on the same system, Windows XP is installed where
> the card can be used without a problem (with DCHP, too).

Did it by any chance stop working after you rebooted into Debian
from Windows?

I ask because I have a sound card that disappears if I do this.
It will only work if I shut down and then boot into Linux.


Hope this helps,

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DXSolutions Ltd



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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-18 Thread Peter Thomassen
steef schrieb am Montag, 18. September 2006 11:35:
> maybe a stupid remark, but could this be a hardware-fault of the realtek
> ethernetcard? i remember that in my machines two gave up for unclear
> reasons.

I don't think so because on the same system, Windows XP is installed where
the card can be used without a problem (with DCHP, too).

Peter


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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-18 Thread steef

Peter Thomassen wrote:

Hi,

I'm still introducing a friend of mine to Linux by phone.

Yesterday and the days before, his Realtek 8139 NCI worked out of the box
using DHCP. Today, no IP is received over DHCP; instead, the boot script
does several tries after different intervals and finally gives up.

I googled around and found a hint that the Firewire interface can occupy
eth0, and indeed, eth1 was present (which I assumed to be the NIC), but
replacing eth0 by eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces didn't work. Also undoing
that change, blacklisting eth1394 in /etc/modules.d/blacklist and rebooting
didn't solve it.

After the reboot, I noticed that 8139too wasn't loaded, so we modprobe'd it;
then ifdown eth0, ifup eth0. No success.

Maybe it's useful to know that dmesg says that eth0 is a Realtek 8139. I
don't know what to do -- do you?

Thanks,
Peter


  
maybe a stupid remark, but could this be a hardware-fault of the realtek 
ethernetcard? i remember that in my machines two gave up for unclear 
reasons.


regards,

steef

groningen, holland


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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-17 Thread Peter Thomassen
Derek schrieb am Sonntag, 17. September 2006 21:21:
> I had this problem on my powermac,

And it worked before, too? Maybe, one should file a bug on this ...

> I ended up just compiling my own kernel 
> without any of the eth1394 stuff.

Hmm, this will be difficult to do since currently, the kernel sources aren't
installed and we have to do that without an internet connection. To do it
in one run: Which dependencies are necessary for this?

And, of course: Are there any other chances to make networking work again?

Thanks,
Peter


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Re: eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-17 Thread Derek
I had this problem on my powermac,I ended up just compiling my own kernel without any of the eth1394 stuff.On 9/17/06, Peter Thomassen <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi,I'm still introducing a friend of mine to Linux by phone.
Yesterday and the days before, his Realtek 8139 NCI worked out of the boxusing DHCP. Today, no IP is received over DHCP; instead, the boot scriptdoes several tries after different intervals and finally gives up.
I googled around and found a hint that the Firewire interface can occupyeth0, and indeed, eth1 was present (which I assumed to be the NIC), butreplacing eth0 by eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces didn't work. Also undoing
that change, blacklisting eth1394 in /etc/modules.d/blacklist and rebootingdidn't solve it.After the reboot, I noticed that 8139too wasn't loaded, so we modprobe'd it;then ifdown eth0, ifup eth0. No success.
Maybe it's useful to know that dmesg says that eth0 is a Realtek 8139. Idon't know what to do -- do you?Thanks,Peter--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to 
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eth0 (Realtek 8139) suddenly not working

2006-09-17 Thread Peter Thomassen
Hi,

I'm still introducing a friend of mine to Linux by phone.

Yesterday and the days before, his Realtek 8139 NCI worked out of the box
using DHCP. Today, no IP is received over DHCP; instead, the boot script
does several tries after different intervals and finally gives up.

I googled around and found a hint that the Firewire interface can occupy
eth0, and indeed, eth1 was present (which I assumed to be the NIC), but
replacing eth0 by eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces didn't work. Also undoing
that change, blacklisting eth1394 in /etc/modules.d/blacklist and rebooting
didn't solve it.

After the reboot, I noticed that 8139too wasn't loaded, so we modprobe'd it;
then ifdown eth0, ifup eth0. No success.

Maybe it's useful to know that dmesg says that eth0 is a Realtek 8139. I
don't know what to do -- do you?

Thanks,
Peter


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