Re: exmh questions become exmh questions
Hi, Well the title should have been exmh questions become smail questions. Thanks to Martin Bialasinski for suggesting setting up my own domain. Is there a domain name reserved for private networks like the reserved ip address ranges? I picked home.bradshaw, but I'd switch to the correct name if there is one. Although I doubt bradshaw will ever be used on the internet. Thanks to Will Lowe for the final piece ot the puzzle in smail/config: hostnames=your.host.name:localhost Where your.host.name is your fqdn. I wasn't able to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] until I did this. smail complained that it couldn't find the host, but ping worked fine. I thought it might be because smail was using bind instead of the resolver library which specifies hosts, bind. I was trying to figure out how to set up bind as more that a caching server when I read Will's message and it fixed the smail problem. The next step is tackling sendmail on solaris so that machine will forward all mail to freefall (the debian system I want to use as a mail server.) -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Next Level Communications[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
exmh questions become exmh questions
Hi everyone, Thanks for the suggestion to look at GNUS and the other responses. My setup is similar to what Daniel Martin? described on his web page. I had to enter several lines in the frommap to correct what the different mail programs considered to be the from address: bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Bradshaw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Bradshaw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Bradshaw) freefall is my host, and mindspring.com is my isp and is set in visible name. I'm still having a problem with local mail though. I can send mail to a username without problems, but replying to this mail generates an invalid address. For example, in elm a reply to a local message From: bradshaw, would be addressed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED](none). I could qualify all from addresses even in the local transport so that replies would be forced through the isp, but I'd rather keep the mail local. I saw a suggestion to use someething like @home.net for local users. The MUA's I've seen try to qualify the username and that dummy address might be the thing to use. Please send your suggestions, or I'll post if I get things improved a little more. Thanks, -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Next Level Communications[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: exmh questions become exmh questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw a suggestion to use someething like @home.net for local users. The MUA's I've seen try to qualify the username and that dummy address might be the thing to use. Please send your suggestions, or I'll post if I get things improved a little more. This was my suggestion. This is *no* dummy address. This is a perfectly legal domain for you intranet. If you have only one computer, let's call it a net anyway. My first suggestion was home.net, but let me correct this: Consider the case that you have no connection to the internet and only have a intranet with a couple of hosts. Then you have to specify a domainname and hostnames for the computers. Now you chose a domain for the intranet. Let it be home.koeln. You have three hosts named basement, office and entry. (FYI: koeln is the city where I live.) I have chosen a not-existent topleveldomain, so that there won't be any trouble if there is (or will be) a legal home.net domain and you connect to the internet. Now setup /etc/hosts on the three hosts, so that they can resolve the names. You could also set up a DNS Server for your home.koeln domain. So you can send mail between the three systems and of cause between the users on each host. You now decide, that entry.home.koeln gets a modem to make a connection to the internet. On dialin, entry gets an additional IP address and host+domainame from your ISP. Entry is part of *two* domains. So if you send mail from basement to a) user it is delivered locally (pine will expand this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) b) [EMAIL PROTECTED] will work as before. c) [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be forwarded to your ISP's mailserver (if you chose a smarthost) or delivered directly by entry. Read more about this in the Networkadministrator's Guide at the Linux Documentation Project homepage. For your case, you have to reduce this explanation to one host, but the principle is the same. And maybe you will have more then one box someday. You may want to browse the december archive of debian-user for some articles about how to change your hostname and domain (you have to change multiple files and I have never done this, so I don't know which :-) ) Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
exmh questions
Hi, I'm considering using exmh for my mail reader. I want to filter mail into different folders and be able to see which folders have messages in them. Suggestions of other mail readers with this feature would be welcome. However I'm currently having some problems. exmh seems to deliver mail differently from other programs. With elm and mail, I had modified my /etc/smail/transports file as follows: smtp: driver=tcpsmtp, max_addrs=100, -max_chars, inet, remove_header=From, insert_header=From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ($sender_name); use_bind, defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames This doesn't affect mail sent from exmh. In my log files I get a message similar to this when I send mail form exmh: Jan 6 10:06:54 freefall in.smtpd[3158]: connect from localhost I don't get this message from elm or mail. How is exmh sending mail differently from the other mail programs? Is there a way to modify smail to rewrite the headers for exmh as well? I think smail should be responsible for putting a valid header on outgoing mail, but at the moment a way of modifying the From header within exmh would be a useful workaround. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: exmh questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Bradshaw) writes: Hi, I'm considering using exmh for my mail reader. I want to filter mail into different folders and be able to see which folders have messages in them. Suggestions of other mail readers with this feature would be welcome. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know anything about exmh, but there are some alternatives. I use gnus (part of emacs/xemacs) to filter and read both e-mail and netnews. My e-mail box currently looks like (the entries with ... following them mean that entry is collapsed): [ Gnus -- 51 ] 1: nnml:jcl 8: nnml:inbox 0: nnml:dean 3: nnml:talk 0: nnml:comap-advisors 0: nnml:comap-l 0: nnml:duplicates [ Debian -- 18 ] 0: nnml:announce 4: nnml:user 7: nnml:devel 2: nnml:testing 1: nnml:doc 4: nnml:mentors [ EOU -- 11 ]... [ Lists -- 0 ]... [ News -- 0 ]... [ Friends -- 10 ]... [ Students -- 0 ]... [ old -- 0 ] If you use (x)emacs, this might be a good choice. --Norris -- Norris Preyer (541) 962-3310 (office) Physics Program (541) 962-3873 (fax) Eastern Oregon University [EMAIL PROTECTED] La Grande, OR 97850http://physics.eou.edu/npreyer.html finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP key -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: exmh questions
Lee Bradshaw wrote: I'm considering using exmh for my mail reader. I want to filter mail into different folders and be able to see which folders have messages in them. Suggestions of other mail readers with this feature would be welcome. I use procmail to write -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 Unsolicited email advertisements are not welcome; any person sending such will be invoiced for telephone time used in downloading together with a £25 administration charge. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: exmh questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Bradshaw) writes:
Hi,
I'm considering using exmh for my mail reader. I want to filter mail
into different folders and be able to see which folders have messages in
them. Suggestions of other mail readers with this feature would be
welcome.
However I'm currently having some problems. exmh seems to deliver mail
differently from other programs. With elm and mail, I had modified my
/etc/smail/transports file as follows:
smtp: driver=tcpsmtp, max_addrs=100, -max_chars, inet,
remove_header=From,
insert_header=From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ($sender_name);
use_bind, defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames
This doesn't affect mail sent from exmh. In my log files I get a
message similar to this when I send mail form exmh:
Jan 6 10:06:54 freefall in.smtpd[3158]: connect from localhost
I don't get this message from elm or mail. How is exmh sending mail
differently from the other mail programs? Is there a way to modify
smail to rewrite the headers for exmh as well? I think smail should be
responsible for putting a valid header on outgoing mail, but at the
moment a way of modifying the From header within exmh would be a useful
workaround.
The difference is that exmh is connecting to your machine to deliver
mail, instead of running a program (like smail -bS or something
similar). This really shouldn't cause smail to treat the mail
differently
Ah - I've discovered the problem. The problem is in using the
sender_name variable. When exmh sends mail, because of the way it
connects, there is no valid sender_name - therefore, the string
expansion fails, and the From header is never replaced. Since smail
doesn't like to send out mail without a From: line, it uses its
default, which it takes from what exmh tells it. One way around this
is to change the insert_header line to read:
insert_header=From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (${if def:sender_name {($sender_name)}
{($sender)}}
Then make certain to set your personal name in exmh, or the name
used will be your username on your personal machine.
Another way around it is what I do, described in
http://www.math.jhu.edu/~martind/mybox.html
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