Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:56:06PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > For mv, cp, ln, et. al the path to put the result is determined by the last > > argument. It's consistent because it's UNIX. > > Well, FWIW 'man ln' tells: > >ln [OPTION]... [-T] TARGET LINK_NAME (1st form) >ln [OPTION]... TARGET (2nd form) >ln [OPTION]... TARGET... DIRECTORY (3rd form) >ln [OPTION]... -t DIRECTORY TARGET... (4th form) > > So there are 4 ways of invoking ln. Twice the target is the last > argument, twice the one before the last. This just seem to indicate that > you can pick whichever order sounds most consistent to you... 8-) Or, just use mc Alt-x-S I think. I've also used mc when I need to do the filesystem shuffle. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > For mv, cp, ln, et. al the path to put the result is determined by the last > argument. It's consistent because it's UNIX. Well, FWIW 'man ln' tells: ln [OPTION]... [-T] TARGET LINK_NAME (1st form) ln [OPTION]... TARGET (2nd form) ln [OPTION]... TARGET... DIRECTORY (3rd form) ln [OPTION]... -t DIRECTORY TARGET... (4th form) So there are 4 ways of invoking ln. Twice the target is the last argument, twice the one before the last. This just seem to indicate that you can pick whichever order sounds most consistent to you... 8-) Johannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Yeah "source" and "destination" get a but confused when you are talking about > creating a symlink. But, you should think of "ln" as a special form of "cp" > (which it is), then consider "-s" just an option that doesn't change the > order of arguments (which it is), and you should get the order right. > > For mv, cp, ln, et. al the path to put the result is determined by the last > argument. It's consistent because it's UNIX. thanks for the tip! -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:20:44 -0600 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: ... > Yeah "source" and "destination" get a but confused when you are talking about > creating a symlink. But, you should think of "ln" as a special form of "cp" > (which it is), then consider "-s" just an option that doesn't change the > order of arguments (which it is), and you should get the order right. > > For mv, cp, ln, et. al the path to put the result is determined by the last > argument. It's consistent because it's UNIX. Great explanation; maybe now I'll be able to remember this, without having to constantly check the manpages! > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
On Friday 2008 December 12 03:55:14 Chris Davies wrote:
>steve wrote:
>> ok, well I wanted to avoid that if all possible anyway, tried this ln -s
>> /var/www/download /home/steve/public_html [...]
>>
>> thats creating a symbolic link from download directory (which has
>> no space left) to a directory that has 280 gig free in it.
>
>No. That has created a link to /var/www/download in
>/home/steve/public_html. ("ln -s" is counter intuitive, IMO. The arguments
>always seem to need to be the other way round.)
Yeah "source" and "destination" get a but confused when you are talking about
creating a symlink. But, you should think of "ln" as a special form of "cp"
(which it is), then consider "-s" just an option that doesn't change the
order of arguments (which it is), and you should get the order right.
For mv, cp, ln, et. al the path to put the result is determined by the last
argument. It's consistent because it's UNIX.
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Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 10:51 +0100, Chris Davies wrote: > > Appropriate Docroot and Log entries in /etc/apache/sites-enabled/* > complete the picture, and it leaves /var/www pretty much untouched. (I > use Alias directives to link back into /var/www/* as and when > necessary.) Note: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled contains links to configuration files in /etc/apache2/sites-available. When one configures a site, do it in 'sites-available' and link it from 'sites-enabled'. Best, Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
Chris Davies wrote: > > It's not obvious, but I'm going to guess you have your web server (and > maybe its log files) on /var and that's what's eating the space. thats pretty much it, yes. between logs and site folders /var/www pretty much became full. I went to put a sizeable file in one webservers download directory for a friend to download and thats when I got the no space message. I set this all up well over a year ago, and havent messed with it since. never realized I could move document root outside /var, never even really thought about it, I thought it would create permission problems. well, it did for one of the sites but fixed that already. > > When I configure up apache I tend to set it to use vhosts under > /home/www. same here So I have /home/www/_default_/ (which is really a placeholder > for a vhost that does a redirect to http://www.roaima.co.uk/), > /home/www/www.roaima.co.uk/, /home/www/mail.roaima.co.uk/ and so > on. Further, within each vhost directory I have docroot and logs. I put document root in public_html mainly because it was already there, and copied everything inside /var/www to it. then changed sites-enabled and vhost to reflect the new directory, and everything seems to be working ok. > > Appropriate Docroot and Log entries in /etc/apache/sites-enabled/* > complete the picture, and it leaves /var/www pretty much untouched. (I > use Alias directives to link back into /var/www/* as and when necessary.) > > Hope that helps, yes, big help, thanks, and happy holidays. -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
steve wrote:
> ok, well I wanted to avoid that if all possible anyway, tried this ln -s
> /var/www/download /home/steve/public_html [...]
> thats creating a symbolic link from download directory (which has
> no space left) to a directory that has 280 gig free in it.
No. That has created a link to /var/www/download in
/home/steve/public_html. ("ln -s" is counter intuitive, IMO. The arguments
always seem to need to be the other way round.)
> did I do something incorrectly?
You forgot to ls -l /var/www/download to confirm the link was correctly
created. (You'd have seen it wasn't.)
Chris
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Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
steve wrote: > is there no fairly straightforward way to expand /var and decrease > /home? Only if you're running LVM (and even then it's not as straightforward as I'd like). Otherwise it's a real PITA. > for some reason when I installed etch quite a while ago in my > fairly successful attempt at running a webserver it made /var only 2.8 > gig and made /home 280 something gig. > now I want /var to be say 200 gig, and /home alot smaller. for > obvious reasons. It's not obvious, but I'm going to guess you have your web server (and maybe its log files) on /var and that's what's eating the space. When I configure up apache I tend to set it to use vhosts under /home/www. So I have /home/www/_default_/ (which is really a placeholder for a vhost that does a redirect to http://www.roaima.co.uk/), /home/www/www.roaima.co.uk/, /home/www/mail.roaima.co.uk/ and so on. Further, within each vhost directory I have docroot and logs. Appropriate Docroot and Log entries in /etc/apache/sites-enabled/* complete the picture, and it leaves /var/www pretty much untouched. (I use Alias directives to link back into /var/www/* as and when necessary.) Hope that helps, Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
subscriptions wrote: > On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 00:39 +0100, steve wrote: >> fairly successful attempt at running a webserver it made /var only 2.8 >> gig and made /home 280 something gig. >> >> now I want /var to be say 200 gig, and /home alot smaller. for >> obvious reasons. > > If the reason is using www, why not configure apache2 that its www > directory is in /home/www ? > > You can find the configuration files in /etc/apache2/available-sites. > > Best, > > Rob well I dont know why I didnt think of that to begin with, worked perfectly other than having to adjust permissions on one of the sites folders. thanks! -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
steve wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, attempted to do this before, but never found a way, google is no use. is there no fairly straightforward way to expand /var and decrease /home? for some reason when I installed etch quite a while ago in my fairly successful attempt at running a webserver it made /var only 2.8 gig and made /home 280 something gig. now I want /var to be say 200 gig, and /home alot smaller. for obvious reasons. OR, if theres an easier way to accomplish, maybe mount /home inside /var? I dont know, reaching for answers lol. Thanks for any tips or links you can provide. Can you give us the layout of your partitions? The output of `df` and `sudo fdisk -l` should help us in recommending the least painful way of achieving your goal. - -- Steve Reilly -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. -- Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
subscriptions wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 00:39 +0100, steve wrote: fairly successful attempt at running a webserver it made /var only 2.8 gig and made /home 280 something gig. now I want /var to be say 200 gig, and /home alot smaller. for obvious reasons. If the reason is using www, why not configure apache2 that its www directory is in /home/www ? Or, alternatively, resize2fs /home to whatever size you need and put /var/www/ in its own partition in the freed space. You can find the configuration files in /etc/apache2/available-sites. Best, Rob -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. -- Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 00:39 +0100, steve wrote: > fairly successful attempt at running a webserver it made /var only 2.8 > gig and made /home 280 something gig. > > now I want /var to be say 200 gig, and /home alot smaller. for > obvious reasons. If the reason is using www, why not configure apache2 that its www directory is in /home/www ? You can find the configuration files in /etc/apache2/available-sites. Best, Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Iatrou wrote: > When the date was Friday 12 December 2008, steve wrote: > >> is there no fairly straightforward way to expand /var and decrease >> /home? for some reason when I installed etch quite a while ago in my >> fairly successful attempt at running a webserver it made /var only 2.8 >> gig and made /home 280 something gig. >> >> now I want /var to be say 200 gig, and /home alot smaller. for >> obvious reasons. OR, if theres an easier way to accomplish, maybe mount >> /home inside /var? I dont know, reaching for answers lol. >> >> Thanks for any tips or links you can provide. > > You could create a symbolic link from /var/web/server/files to /home/htdocs/ > > Resizing your partitions is error prone and depends on file system, it's a > process you really want to avoid. > ok, well I wanted to avoid that if all possible anyway, tried this ln -s /var/www/download /home/steve/public_html but when I try to copy a file into /var/www/download I get no space left on device. thats creating a symbolic link from download directory (which has no space left) to a directory that has 280 gig free in it. did I do something incorrectly? - -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJQa3z8ltKtLpsP3URAp6WAJ0cgbDI1ArUDf9ehFBNMnQK24zHIwCgmonI gByn+tTSBaTTtuvzjr36x+E= =IiHO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: expand /var, decrease /home space
When the date was Friday 12 December 2008, steve wrote: > is there no fairly straightforward way to expand /var and decrease > /home? for some reason when I installed etch quite a while ago in my > fairly successful attempt at running a webserver it made /var only 2.8 > gig and made /home 280 something gig. > > now I want /var to be say 200 gig, and /home alot smaller. for > obvious reasons. OR, if theres an easier way to accomplish, maybe mount > /home inside /var? I dont know, reaching for answers lol. > > Thanks for any tips or links you can provide. You could create a symbolic link from /var/web/server/files to /home/htdocs/ Resizing your partitions is error prone and depends on file system, it's a process you really want to avoid. -- Michael Iatrou (gxkx) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
expand /var, decrease /home space
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, attempted to do this before, but never found a way, google is no use. is there no fairly straightforward way to expand /var and decrease /home? for some reason when I installed etch quite a while ago in my fairly successful attempt at running a webserver it made /var only 2.8 gig and made /home 280 something gig. now I want /var to be say 200 gig, and /home alot smaller. for obvious reasons. OR, if theres an easier way to accomplish, maybe mount /home inside /var? I dont know, reaching for answers lol. Thanks for any tips or links you can provide. - -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJQaSZ8ltKtLpsP3URAm9IAJ9QDy2dUhwITkZzZHi448DhKPjJGgCcDfdK n/EypDSPVjWpDOhcXbwUIxc= =S2+O -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
