Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:35:41PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:54, Josip Rodin wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:27:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location > > > > of Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site > > > > for apt or for mirroring. This is *not true*. > > > > > > Maybe, it would be wise to remove it from the proposed locations in the > installer! Ah, good point. I've commented it out appropriately, it should no longer appear there (assuming choose-mirror doesn't do something crazy). Thanks for the idea - although it would have been better if you Cc:ed it to me or to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'm not subscribed to the -user list, I just happened to go looking. -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 22:44, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:35:41PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > > On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:54, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:27:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical > > > > > location of Debian packages and that it will be best for them to > > > > > use that site for apt or for mirroring. This is *not true*. > > > > Maybe, it would be wise to remove it from the proposed locations in the > > installer! > > Thierry > > The last installation I recall prompted for a mirror based on my > location (Romania). It offered only Romanian mirrors, the first being > ftp.ro.debian.org (the primary mirror for Romania). > Last install I did (yesterday) using a freshly downloaded netinstall iso proposed me, oupss no, had available, ftp.debian.org. I dont remember what it proposed me as a default, Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:35:41PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:54, Josip Rodin wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:27:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location > > > > of Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site > > > > for apt or for mirroring. This is *not true*. > > > > > > Maybe, it would be wise to remove it from the proposed locations in the > installer! > Thierry The last installation I recall prompted for a mirror based on my location (Romania). It offered only Romanian mirrors, the first being ftp.ro.debian.org (the primary mirror for Romania). Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 09:54, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:27:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location > > > of Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site > > > for apt or for mirroring. This is *not true*. > > > Maybe, it would be wise to remove it from the proposed locations in the installer! Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update - Problem solved.
On 12/3/07, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Were you getting the same thing from apt-get commands? I didn't try apt-get commands, actually. > > Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:27:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location of > > Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site for apt > > or for mirroring. This is *not true*. > > > > If you're using it now, please switch to a country-based DNS name > > such as ftp.us.debian.org, ftp.ca.debian.org, ftp.uk.debian.org, ... > > The list of those servers is at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list > > Does the same go for ../project/experimental? Yes. All normal mirrors that carry debian/ also have project/experimental. -- Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/03/07 13:52, Josip Rodin wrote: > Hi, > > We're going to be changing ftp.debian.org setup a bit... but first, > a friendly reminder. > > Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location of > Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site for apt > or for mirroring. This is *not true*. > > ftp.debian.org is merely one of several servers that get updated from an > internal Debian server. That address is presently located on a single server > in the United States, and it still exists mainly for backwards > compatibility. > > In the future, it may get services reduced, or shut down, or converted into > a globally load-balanced name, or whatever. Please don't use it. > > If you're using it now, please switch to a country-based DNS name > such as ftp.us.debian.org, ftp.ca.debian.org, ftp.uk.debian.org, ... > The list of those servers is at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list Does the same go for ../project/experimental? > Now, back to the current business. Because of local disk space issues, > ftp.d.o has had intermittent problems over the past few months, and right > now it's simply not able to update the debian archive. It's currently > carrying a full mirror of oldstable, and a 'debian-typical' mirror > (i386, amd64, source) of everything else (stable, testing, unstable). > > We'll have to reduce the size of its mirror of oldstable as well, so > that it keeps enough free disk space to be able to update what it has. > > (Some time ago, we have contacted all registered mirrors rsyncing off that > machine asking them to switch to a better place. All mirrors with reasonably > responsive maintainers will not be affected; those who have ignored our > advice might notice changes.) > - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA %SYSTEM-F-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVQFZS9HxQb37XmcRAh51AJ9wK1IL8hZdiROsS7m+n4hpyq3QCQCfcI1Z ymchhl1yZLbYwOVZOqStqhQ= =mzHJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update - Problem solved.
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 09:52:33PM -0800, David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On 12/3/07, David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Previously: > > > > OK, I got bitten and just checked my /etc/apt/sources.list, and > > noticed all my debian references were to ftp.debian.org. I beg > > penance. > > snip explanation and aptitude output. > > Found what I think is the issue. I still had a few ftp.debian.org > lists in my /var/lib/apt/lists subdirectory, plus one reference to > ftp.debian.org still unedited in /etc/apt/sources.list. I removed the > ftp.debian.org* files in /var/lib/apt/lists, because I was getting the > same segfault on all aptitude requests, even 'autoclean' and 'clean'. > The segfault on 'sudo aptitude autoclean' went away when I removed the > ftp.debian.org files, so I was on the right track. > > It just took a little extra inspection and removal of ftp.debian.org > files in /var/lib/apt/lists - so bear this in mind when you update > your chosen mirrors :). Were you getting the same thing from apt-get commands? Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 09:33:52PM -0800, David Fox wrote: > Fetched 23.8kB in 4s (5406B/s) > Segmentation faultsts... 95% > I'm going to clean /var/cache/apt/archives just in case. This is better: rm /var/cache/apt/*pkgcache.bin -- Chi usa software non libero avvelena anche te. Digli di smettere. Informatica=arsenico: minime dosi in rari casi patologici, altrimenti letale. Informatica=bomba: intelligente solo per gli stupidi che ci credono. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update - Problem solved.
On 12/3/07, David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Previously: > OK, I got bitten and just checked my /etc/apt/sources.list, and > noticed all my debian references were to ftp.debian.org. I beg > penance. snip explanation and aptitude output. Found what I think is the issue. I still had a few ftp.debian.org lists in my /var/lib/apt/lists subdirectory, plus one reference to ftp.debian.org still unedited in /etc/apt/sources.list. I removed the ftp.debian.org* files in /var/lib/apt/lists, because I was getting the same segfault on all aptitude requests, even 'autoclean' and 'clean'. The segfault on 'sudo aptitude autoclean' went away when I removed the ftp.debian.org files, so I was on the right track. It just took a little extra inspection and removal of ftp.debian.org files in /var/lib/apt/lists - so bear this in mind when you update your chosen mirrors :). HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ftp.debian.org update
On 12/3/07, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > We're going to be changing ftp.debian.org setup a bit... but first, > a friendly reminder. OK, I got bitten and just checked my /etc/apt/sources.list, and noticed all my debian references were to ftp.debian.org. I beg penance. So I switched them all to ftp.us.debian.org, and did a "sudo aptitude update" yet I am getting a "segmentation fault" as the last line of that output. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude update Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable Release.gpg Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Translation-en_US Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable Release Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Sources/DiffIndex Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Packages Get:2 http://ftp.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free Translation-en_US Get:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free Translation-en_US Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Sources Get:4 http://security.debian.org testing/updates Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Translation-en_US Hit http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Packages Hit http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Sources Get:5 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing Release [68.5kB] Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing Release Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Translation-en_US Get:6 http://security.debian.org testing/updates Release [22.5kB] Get:7 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid Release [79.6kB] Get:8 http://debian-multimedia.org testing Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://debian-multimedia.org testing/main Translation-en_US Get:9 http://debian-multimedia.org testing Release [5561B] Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages/DiffIndex Get:10 http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ Translation-en_US Get:11 http://deb.opera.com lenny Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://deb.opera.com lenny/non-free Translation-en_US Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/contrib Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://ftp.debian.org testing/non-free Packages/DiffIndex Get:12 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Sources [1394kB] Hit http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ Release Hit http://deb.opera.com lenny Release Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://debian-multimedia.org testing/main Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex Ign http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex Ign http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://deb.opera.com lenny/non-free Packages/DiffIndex Hit http://download.tuxfamily.org ./ Packages Hit http://debian-multimedia.org testing/main Sources/DiffIndex Get:13 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Packages [106kB] Ign http://deb.opera.com lenny/non-free Packages Hit http://deb.opera.com lenny/non-free Packages Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Packages Get:14 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Sources [13.8kB] Get:15 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/contrib Sources [25.4kB] Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Sources Get:16 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/non-free Sources [31.9kB] Get:17 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Packages [5103kB] Get:18 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib Packages [83.6kB] Get:19 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free Packages [105kB] Get:20 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Sources [1467kB] Get:21 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib Sources [29.0kB] Get:22 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free Sources [34.7kB] Fetched 8570kB in 44s (191kB/s) Segmentation faultsts... 95% I did it again just to be sure, and: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude update Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable Release.gpg Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Translation-en_US Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B] Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable Release Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/contrib Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/non-free Translation-en_US Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org testing Release Ign http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex Get:3 http://ftp.debian.org testing Release.gpg [189B] Ign http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.deb
ftp.debian.org update
Hi, We're going to be changing ftp.debian.org setup a bit... but first, a friendly reminder. Many people seem to think that ftp.debian.org is the canonical location of Debian packages and that it will be best for them to use that site for apt or for mirroring. This is *not true*. ftp.debian.org is merely one of several servers that get updated from an internal Debian server. That address is presently located on a single server in the United States, and it still exists mainly for backwards compatibility. In the future, it may get services reduced, or shut down, or converted into a globally load-balanced name, or whatever. Please don't use it. If you're using it now, please switch to a country-based DNS name such as ftp.us.debian.org, ftp.ca.debian.org, ftp.uk.debian.org, ... The list of those servers is at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list Now, back to the current business. Because of local disk space issues, ftp.d.o has had intermittent problems over the past few months, and right now it's simply not able to update the debian archive. It's currently carrying a full mirror of oldstable, and a 'debian-typical' mirror (i386, amd64, source) of everything else (stable, testing, unstable). We'll have to reduce the size of its mirror of oldstable as well, so that it keeps enough free disk space to be able to update what it has. (Some time ago, we have contacted all registered mirrors rsyncing off that machine asking them to switch to a better place. All mirrors with reasonably responsive maintainers will not be affected; those who have ignored our advice might notice changes.) -- Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
