Re: good book to learn perl
On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 08:39:01PM -0500, Tim Ayers wrote: I agree with others that 'Learning Perl' is the best book for people with little programming experiencing. Be certain to get the second edition that has been updated to Perl 5 (which is VERY different from Perl 4 that the first edition was based on.) Well, the book only covers the basic stuff which really hasn't changed much. I have the Llama 1st edition and have noticed very few changes in actually using Perl5 (mostly chop versus chomp). #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w #!/usr/bin/perl -w would be better on Debian. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.
Re: good book to learn perl
Subject: Re: good book to learn perl Date: Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 08:36:49AM -0600 In reply to:Dave Sherohman Quoting Dave Sherohman([EMAIL PROTECTED]): | Wayne Topa said: | I sure have found it that way. 99% of my books are ordered from | bookpool. | | I've had Very Bad Experiences with bookpool - lousy service (particularly in | dealing with backorders), slow (and expensive) shipping... I placed one | order with them and will never do it again. I find shipping costs the same as Amazon since they added Priorty mail to their options. They always beat or match Amazon on price and, as I am in an adjacent State, my orders get here pretty quick. I tend to order books which are in stock, so don't have backorder problems. YMMV -- Micro Credo: Never trust a computer bigger than you can lift. ___
Re: good book to learn perl
Subject: Re: good book to learn perl Date: Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 03:37:13PM +0200 In reply to:Shaul Karl Quoting Shaul Karl([EMAIL PROTECTED]): | | saw a few on amazon ..not a whole lot of reader reviews of them tho | | | Isn't www.bookpool.com generally cheaper then amazon ? I sure have found it that way. 99% of my books are ordered from bookpool. -- Windows is a multi-tasking OS: Do one task, reboot, do another task, reboot... ___
Re: good book to learn perl
Wayne Topa said: I sure have found it that way. 99% of my books are ordered from bookpool. I've had Very Bad Experiences with bookpool - lousy service (particularly in dealing with backorders), slow (and expensive) shipping... I placed one order with them and will never do it again. For technical books, I go with fatbrain.com. Costs a little more, but they have a much better selection and get it out a lot faster. (And a lower shipping cost at least partially offsets the higher book price.) -- Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv- b++ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
Re: good book to learn perl
I have Perl Cookbook ISBN 1-56592-243-3. Here is the blurb on the back cover: i would tend to recommend the oreilly learning perl for a novice. just read a chapter a night and do the excercises and in a week you should no 90% of the perl you're likely to need. if you need more after that the perl cookbook or the camel book should do you fine as a reference. Try bn.com as well as Amazon: their prices vary. better yet try www.dealpilot.com. you put in the book you want, and where you live and it goes and queries all the major online sellers and tells you who's the cheapest (including shipping which is useful when you live in alaska :-) and how long it'll take each company to actually deliver etc. it's a cool service. adam.
Re: good book to learn perl
Also available from O'Reilly is the Perl CD Bookshelf. It's 6 books in html format on one cd. You get: Learning Perl Learning Perl on Win32 Systems Programming Perl Advanced Perl Programming Perl Cookbook Perl in a Nutshell ... all in html format, plus a bonus dead tree copy of Perl in a Nutshell. IMO pretty good value if you don't mind reading from your PC - costs less than if you bought paper versions of both Learning Perl and Programming Perl. (I dont work for O'Reilly, but I do enjoy their books ;) Matthew Adam Shand wrote: I have Perl Cookbook ISBN 1-56592-243-3. Here is the blurb on the back cover: i would tend to recommend the oreilly learning perl for a novice. just read a chapter a night and do the excercises and in a week you should no 90% of the perl you're likely to need. if you need more after that the perl cookbook or the camel book should do you fine as a reference. Try bn.com as well as Amazon: their prices vary. better yet try www.dealpilot.com. you put in the book you want, and where you live and it goes and queries all the major online sellers and tells you who's the cheapest (including shipping which is useful when you live in alaska :-) and how long it'll take each company to actually deliver etc. it's a cool service. adam. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: good book to learn perl
Don't forget the perl manpages! I've found they contain about 80% of the same text that is in the Camel Book (_Programming Perl_), plus a few things that aren't in that book. There are something like 40 different manuals on different aspects of Perl there! Admittedly, it's not as easy as having a book in front of you though. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: good book to learn perl
This is probably more than people wanted to know, but... N == aphro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: N can anyone reccomend a good book so i can start the task of learning perl N ? :) N i have virtually no programming experience, although i have managed to N hack some perl scripts up at times. I agree with others that 'Learning Perl' is the best book for people with little programming experiencing. Be certain to get the second edition that has been updated to Perl 5 (which is VERY different from Perl 4 that the first edition was based on.) I haven't seen the second edition so I don't know how Randal starts it off but in case he doesn't or for those who learn from the man pages or by looking at scripts I will give an unsolicited edict: Start every program with #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w use strict; use diagnostics; The '-w' turns on warnings. This catches a lot of bad practices before they become bad habits. The 'use strict;' catches a bunch more bad things. The 'use diagnostics;' provides detailed descriptions of what you might have done wrong to cause the warning or error, which is great for learning. But comment out or remove the 'use diagnostics;' before you put your script into production because it really slows the program down. Finally for people that are experienced programmers that want to learn Perl I would recommend AGAINST Learning Perl and recommend Perl: The Programmer's Companion by Nigel Chapman. For experienced programmers Learning Perl moves very slowly and barely touches interesting material. Programmer's Companion is just the opposite. HTH and Hope you have a very nice day, :-) Tim Ayers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Norman, Oklahoma
Re: good book to learn perl
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Tim Ayers wrote: I haven't seen the second edition so I don't know how Randal starts it off but in case he doesn't or for those who learn from the man pages or by looking at scripts I will give an unsolicited edict: Start every program with #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w Or /usr/bin/perl -w if you're using debian :-) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good book to learn perl
saw a few on amazon ..not a whole lot of reader reviews of them tho Isn't www.bookpool.com generally cheaper then amazon ?
good book to learn perl
can anyone reccomend a good book so i can start the task of learning perl ? :) saw a few on amazon ..not a whole lot of reader reviews of them tho i have virtually no programming experience, although i have managed to hack some perl scripts up at times. thanks! nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 11:07am up 93 days, 22:42, 1 user, load average: 1.79, 1.70, 1.73
Re: good book to learn perl
I have Perl Cookbook ISBN 1-56592-243-3. Here is the blurb on the back cover: Precious few books can meet the needs of novices and experts simultaneously. The Perl Cookbook does, and on nearly every page. It has the perfect mix of instruction, revelation, and attitude- exacly what I expected from Tom and Nat, pillars of the Perl community. - Jon Orwant, editor of The Perl Journal. Try bn.com as well as Amazon: their prices vary. Ian Stirling aphro wrote: can anyone reccomend a good book so i can start the task of learning perl ? :) saw a few on amazon ..not a whole lot of reader reviews of them tho i have virtually no programming experience, although i have managed to hack some perl scripts up at times. thanks! nate
Re: good book to learn perl
aphro wrote: can anyone reccomend a good book so i can start the task of learning perl ? :) saw a few on amazon ..not a whole lot of reader reviews of them tho i have virtually no programming experience, although i have managed to hack some perl scripts up at times. thanks! nate I'm far from an expert on the subject but as a fellow beginner I would recommend Learning Perl, Schwartz and Christiansen. Don't let chapter one bog you down. It's an introduction as the title implies:) Go to the library and check out a few and see what helps you. hth, kent
Re: good book to learn perl
can anyone reccomend a good book so i can start the task of learning perl ? :) Go with the O'Reilly Camel books - you can't go wrong with them. try: http://www.perl.com and: http://www.oreilly.com -Dave -- | oOOooO / --|oOobodoO/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --| ooOoOo / | II / The wise man tells you where you have fallen | II / and where you may fall - Invaluable secrets.
Re: good book to learn perl
On Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 01:47:52PM -0600, ktb wrote: aphro wrote: can anyone reccomend a good book so i can start the task of learning perl ? :) recommend Learning Perl, Schwartz and Christiansen. Don't let chapter I second that recommendation . . . and once you get get good at it get the O'Reilly's Programming Perl, more in-depth. I tried to read Programming Perl first, but that was a mistake. Go with Learning Perl. -- Thank you, Joe Bouchard Powered by Debian/GNU Linux (Slink)
Re: good book to learn perl
On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, aphro wrote: can anyone reccomend a good book so i can start the task of learning perl ? :) saw a few on amazon ..not a whole lot of reader reviews of them tho i have virtually no programming experience, although i have managed to hack some perl scripts up at times. thanks! nate The o'reilly learning perl books are excellent... if you want a perl Reference book the O'reilly Programming Perl is also unbeatable. Tooky
