Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On 08/07/11 22:55, lee wrote: David Jardine da...@jardine.de writes: I have version 275.09.07 in wheezy running fine - although I think I did have to remove some mesa-related packages that broke things on an update a few days ago. You mean libgl1-mesa-glx? There are 1716 packages depending on that, and I have too many of them installed to remove libgl1-mesa-glx. The result is that 273 packages are due to be updated and cannot be updated because the nvidia driver is broken. Hopefully, they'll fix that soon. I have an ATI, not nvidia, but check the new glx-alternatives packages, which changes the glx organisation. With ATI (on wheezy) I had to manually select the new driver packages (the glx package and the -driver package) to do this. You may also wait for things to smooth themselves. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e18030f.8030...@rail.eu.org
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Mahesh T Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: I have nvidia GeForce 7300GT video card. I did not find xorg.conf in /etc/X11 But when it starts gui, I get first hazy stripes. Further I get panels half black. Any solutions? 1. Before you downgrade, try to set up a xorg.conf, perhaps this is all you need. The xorg.conf I'm using is attached, you might need to change the monitor settings. 2. I've got a 7200GS. NVIDIA lists my card as 7200GS/7300SE. On my machine everything is ok. The solution is to downgrade X to stable. My X seems to be a mix of stable and outdated testing packages, unfortunately those testing packages aren't available anymore, hence you need to downgrade X completely to stable. For the cards we are using nvidia 173.14.30 is ok, that's the driver package I'm using. The Kernel running here is 2.6.39. I didn't run into dependency hell, anything else is from testing. I really wonder hat people claim to get issues regarding to dependencies, when downgrading X. I also wonder that they won't downgrade, but keep a broken X. It's your decision to downgrade or not to downgrade. Section Module Load extmod Load dri Load dbe Load dri2 Load glx Load record LoadGLcore Loadv4l EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Plug 'n' Play ModelNamePlug 'n' Play DisplaySize 305 230 HorizSync29-98 VertRefresh 50-120 modeline1152x864 128.42 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 910 Gamma 1.0 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option HWcursor # [bool] #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option ShadowFB # [bool] #Option VideoKey # i #Option MergedFB off #old debian/ubuntu Identifier Card0 Driver nvidia #Driver nv #Driver nouveau #Driver vesa VendorName nVidia Corporation BoardName G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] BusID PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 Defaultdepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1152x864 #Virtual3840 1200 EndSubSection # SubSection Display # Viewport 0 0 # Depth 1 # EndSubSection # SubSection Display # Viewport 0 0 # Depth 4 # EndSubSection # SubSection Display # Viewport 0 0 # Depth 8 # EndSubSection # SubSection Display # Viewport 0 0 # Depth 15 # EndSubSection # SubSection Display # Viewport 0 0 # Depth 16 # EndSubSection # SubSection Display # Viewport 0 0 # Depth 24 # EndSubSection EndSection
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Sb, 09 iul 11, 10:30:23, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I didn't run into dependency hell, anything else is from testing. I really wonder hat people claim to get issues regarding to dependencies, when downgrading X. We're still almost one year away from the freeze, I'm guessing many changes are still to come. For your use-case, the X maintainers are working on back-porting some of X, you might want to watch debian-backports list. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 12:35 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 09 iul 11, 10:30:23, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I didn't run into dependency hell, anything else is from testing. I really wonder hat people claim to get issues regarding to dependencies, when downgrading X. We're still almost one year away from the freeze, I'm guessing many changes are still to come. For your use-case, the X maintainers are working on back-porting some of X, you might want to watch debian-backports list. Regards, Andrei Yesno :) You are running Debian stable, because you prefer the Debian stable tree. It runs great, there is just one problem: the software is a little bit outdated compared to other distributions. This is where backports come in. Backports are recompiled packages from testing (mostly) and unstable (in a few cases only, e.g. security updates) in a stable environment so that they will run without new libraries (whenever it is possible) on a Debian stable distribution. It is recommended to select single backports which fit your needs, and not to use all available backports. (http://backports-master.debian.org/) I need to compile some audio software myself and especially need some new libraries. But I guess you're right, for most users this might be the best solution. Since I didn't tested stable + backports I don't know if it should work for me too, but from the past I know, that it was better to use testing and to downgrade some packages. For me NVIDIA works, but I've got packages installed that aren't available anymore, so others can't install the same packages and I need to take care not to lose these packages. It happened several times, that packages that were locked by Synaptic, should be removed when doing an upgrade. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1310205551.20578.57.camel@debian
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
David Jardine da...@jardine.de writes: On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 10:55:00PM +0200, lee wrote: David Jardine da...@jardine.de writes: I have version 275.09.07 in wheezy running fine - although I think I did have to remove some mesa-related packages that broke things on an update a few days ago. You mean libgl1-mesa-glx? There are 1716 packages depending on that, and I have too many of them installed to remove libgl1-mesa-glx. The result is that 273 packages are due to be updated and cannot be updated because the nvidia driver is broken. Hopefully, they'll fix that soon. Lee, you certainly know more about these things than I do, since I Probably not --- I've been using the nvidia installer for many years, and it always worked fine. Then I changed one setting on my kernel and found I couldn't boot it anymore and had to switch to kernel packages and to use the Debian packages for the nvidia driver. I haven't tried yet if I can boot self-compiled kernels again. understand nothing about video drivers. What I remember is that a dist-upgrade involving libgl1-mesa-glx (yes, I think that was the name) removed certain nvidia packages and left me with no X. Yes, aptitude says it would remove some packages and would probably leave me without X if I'd let it, too. You always need to check what will happen when updating. -- html messages are obsolete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k4brfxmy@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
bri...@aracnet.com writes: it's the strangest thing though, Xorg -configure still fails. It simply generates the xorg.conf which is practically useless and un-used (on your and my systems); so why bother?? -- Mahesh T. Pai || Encryption: A powerful algorithmic encoding technique employed in the creation of computer manuals. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87hb6xckpl@gmail.com
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
I am also having nvidia card. Should I delete xorg.conf for good performance. I am having discoloured task bar. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:28 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 00:42:57 -0400 William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote: First problem I found - still had an nvidia modules installed, and didn't realize it. so I purged nvidia* and rebooted. Have you tried running it without a config file? Why are you running X as root? I was running X as root simply to config test. thank you ! I forgot about the old run it without a config file trick. that did it. Try disabling the drm driver in xorg.conf if that doesn't work, and maybe post your xorg.conf here It's working using the nouveau driver. 3D ain't so hot, but I don't care about that right now. it's the strangest thing though, Xorg -configure still fails. Thanks again, Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110707215856.25597...@windy.deldotd.com -- L V Gandhi
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 15:26:15 +0530, L V Gandhi wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:28 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 00:42:57 -0400 William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote: (...) Have you tried running it without a config file? Why are you running X as root? I was running X as root simply to config test. thank you ! I forgot about the old run it without a config file trick. that did it. (...) I am also having nvidia card. Should I delete xorg.conf for good performance. I am having discoloured task bar. Don't remove but rename it and reboot (or restart X server) and test. If you like the result, keep it this way. If no, you can restore the old config file. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.08.10.16...@gmail.com
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:39:26 +0530 Mahesh T Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Mahesh, It simply generates the xorg.conf which is practically useless and un-used (on your and my systems); so why bother?? Isn't a basic one required to run the nvidia driver rather than nouveau? -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent He signed up for just three years, it seemed a small amount Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On 2011-07-08 11:15 +0200, Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:39:26 +0530 Mahesh T Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: It simply generates the xorg.conf which is practically useless and un-used (on your and my systems); so why bother?? Isn't a basic one required to run the nvidia driver rather than nouveau? True, but you don't need configuration programs to create one. The following four lines will do: Section Device Identifier n Driver nvidia EndSection Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87tyaxawno@turtle.gmx.de
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Friday 08 July 2011 12:38:23 am bri...@aracnet.com wrote: howdy, got a new motherboard and I'm trying to figure out how to get reasonable X working. using vesa and something very low resolution right now. I tried googling on that error symbol and literally got nothing back. Hi, What motherboard/CPU/video did you wind up getting? I'm trying to decide on components to build my new system from and could really use any advice. (I'm not a gamer so the high end video is not of interest to me, but I think that something in the middle would be good. I also don't want a system with a lot of noise (I have tinnitus, so a quiet system is important to me..) Thanks, Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201107081004.08244.m...@neidorff.com
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 12:34:19 +0200 Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: Hello Sven, True, but you don't need configuration programs to create one. The following four lines will do: Well, yes. Of course, you don't actually *need* a config tool to create extremely complex configs. It just makes life a hell of a lot easier. :-) Section Device Identifier n Driver nvidia EndSection For that, firing up the config tools is, possibly, overkill. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent You don't entertain ideas you simply bore them I Don't Like You - Stiff Little Fingers signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk writes: Isn't a basic one required to run the nvidia driver rather than nouveau? If I got the message to which I was responding right, the problem was solved by removing xorg.conf. I was responding to (what seemed to me) an aside comment about the configuration programme which generates xorg.conf. Was myself using nvidia binary drivers for some time, I had gone through the hell on an upgrade. Finally gave up on gnome3, 3D and reverted back to nouveau (and gnome2). Took another 3 hours to figure out that xorg.conf needs to be deleted. -- Mahesh T. Pai || Man's most judicious trait, is a good sense of what not to believe. --Euripides -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878vs825oj@gmail.com
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 10:04:08 -0400 mark m...@neidorff.com wrote: On Friday 08 July 2011 12:38:23 am bri...@aracnet.com wrote: howdy, got a new motherboard and I'm trying to figure out how to get reasonable X working. using vesa and something very low resolution right now. I tried googling on that error symbol and literally got nothing back. Hi, What motherboard/CPU/video did you wind up getting? I'm trying to decide on components to build my new system from and could really use any advice. (I'm not a gamer so the high end video is not of interest to me, but I think that something in the middle would be good. I also don't want a system with a lot of noise (I have tinnitus, so a quiet system is important to me..) Hi Mark, I think this qualifies as in the middle. I wanted decent speed and reasonable video, so I think our goals are comparable. Here's the set-up : motherboard Zotac GF9300-G-E RAM Kingston KVR800D2N6K2/4G CPU : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz Fan : Scythe Shuriken (rev B) Power Supply Antec HE430 case : one of those antec quiet cases RUNNING DEBIAN SQUEEZE :-) It's a long story, but you'll find that this is a mini-ITX MB and I'm using a full size PS and a mid-tower case. I still haven't got a mini-itx case which I can live with. This system is quiet. The antec PS is quiet, and the CPU fan is quiet and heat regulated so it spins slowly when nothing's going on. When it does rev up to full speed it's still pretty good. I am noise-hating also so I think you'd be happy with it. Case is critical. My case is one of those Antec quiet cases. The NVIDIA on-board video chipset is heatsink cooled - no fan - so that helps. Video works with nouvea (1920x1200). ethernet worked out of the box (once I got the eth0 properly assigned) audio's working coretemp gives me the CPU temp and it looks right fan regulation is working properly, i.e. high loads cause more rpms haven't measured the power consumption, but the CPU is 65W TDP, so I expect my entire system is probably 100-120W or so. The video can't be too much or they couldn't get away with passive heatsink. Downsides: find a different cpu cooler ! that shuriken is a #$@%!, #$#%@%, unbelievable #$#%@ PIA to get installed. the ram must be installed before putting the fan in for one thing ! having said that the shuriken does do the job. the start up config of the BIOS didn't find my hard disk ! I loaded fail-safes to make it work. Traced to the problem to a sata setting of Linux AHCI. Humorously if you use that setting the disk won't be found, but regular AHCI seems to be fine. ugh - BIOS sucks. amazing how much of a problem BIOS STILL is. other than that it seems to have a lot of tweakability and seemed to detect the important stuff, i.e. RAM and CPU voltages/timings, correctly. System seems to be running well. BTW this board is replacing an Intel DQ45EK which, although plays well with linux, but failed after 6 mos (channel A memory stopped working). Don't have meaningful reliability info for this board yet because it's only 2 days old. I provide this information not as advertising but because I also have a hard time putting together systems which are quiet and play nice with Linux so I thought this would be helpful. Thanks, Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110708080922.0c310...@windy.deldotd.com
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On 07/07/11 at 09:58pm, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 00:42:57 -0400 William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote: First problem I found - still had an nvidia modules installed, and didn't realize it. so I purged nvidia* and rebooted. I saw it reported you were using an nvidia driver, but I assumed that was desired. [...] It's working using the nouveau driver. 3D ain't so hot, but I don't care about that right now. it's the strangest thing though, Xorg -configure still fails. Happens a lot to me. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 20:14:12 +0530 Mahesh T Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Mahesh, If I got the message to which I was responding right, the problem was solved by removing xorg.conf. I was responding to (what seemed to me) That's right, but the OP would ultimately prefer to use the nvidia driver. At least, AIUI, that is. Removing xorg.conf would mean that nvidia won't get loaded; a workaround rather than a solution, IMO. Was myself using nvidia binary drivers for some time, I had gone through the hell on an upgrade. Finally gave up on gnome3, 3D and As did I recently; nVidia is b0rked in testing, ATM. :-( -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
Forwarded Message From: Brad Rogers Subject: Re: help ! nvidia driver and X Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 16:39:47 +0100 As did I recently; nVidia is b0rked in testing, ATM. :-( No it isn't, here 173.14.30-1 is ok with kernel 2.6.39-2-amd64 from the repositories and a self build 2.6.39 with 'rt emulation'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1310147066.12968.136.camel@debian
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:44:26 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Hello Ralf, No it isn't, here 173.14.30-1 is ok with kernel 2.6.39-2-amd64 from the Okay, I'll qualify my statement; 275.* nvidia drivers are currently broken in testing. repositories and a self build 2.6.39 with 'rt emulation'. Self-built don't count; they're not in testing. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent You only see me for the clothes that I wear Public Image - Public Image Ltd signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 19:44 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
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As did I recently; nVidia is b0rked in testing, ATM. :-(
No it isn't, here 173.14.30-1 is ok with kernel 2.6.39-2-amd64 from the
repositories and a self build 2.6.39 with 'rt emulation'.
But I'm using X 1:7.5+8 from stable. I pinned X a long time ago, because
of the nv driver that is missing in testing.
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Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 07:13:39PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:44:26 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Hello Ralf, No it isn't, here 173.14.30-1 is ok with kernel 2.6.39-2-amd64 from the Okay, I'll qualify my statement; 275.* nvidia drivers are currently broken in testing. I have version 275.09.07 in wheezy running fine - although I think I did have to remove some mesa-related packages that broke things on an update a few days ago. Cheers, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110708193405.GA2641@gennes.augarten
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
David Jardine da...@jardine.de writes: I have version 275.09.07 in wheezy running fine - although I think I did have to remove some mesa-related packages that broke things on an update a few days ago. You mean libgl1-mesa-glx? There are 1716 packages depending on that, and I have too many of them installed to remove libgl1-mesa-glx. The result is that 273 packages are due to be updated and cannot be updated because the nvidia driver is broken. Hopefully, they'll fix that soon. -- html messages are obsolete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87tyawh4rf@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 10:55:00PM +0200, lee wrote: David Jardine da...@jardine.de writes: I have version 275.09.07 in wheezy running fine - although I think I did have to remove some mesa-related packages that broke things on an update a few days ago. You mean libgl1-mesa-glx? There are 1716 packages depending on that, and I have too many of them installed to remove libgl1-mesa-glx. The result is that 273 packages are due to be updated and cannot be updated because the nvidia driver is broken. Hopefully, they'll fix that soon. Lee, you certainly know more about these things than I do, since I understand nothing about video drivers. What I remember is that a dist-upgrade involving libgl1-mesa-glx (yes, I think that was the name) removed certain nvidia packages and left me with no X. Why does nvidia get the blame? It was working perfectly well until somebody decided that certain parts of it had to be removed? I'm not being sarcastic; there must be some rationale that I don't understand but which might help me if I did understand it. Cheers, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110708220311.GA2934@gennes.augarten
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
Forwarded Message From: David Jardine da...@jardine.de To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: help ! nvidia driver and X Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 00:03:11 +0200 On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 10:55:00PM +0200, lee wrote: David Jardine da...@jardine.de writes: I have version 275.09.07 in wheezy running fine - although I think I did have to remove some mesa-related packages that broke things on an update a few days ago. You mean libgl1-mesa-glx? There are 1716 packages depending on that, and I have too many of them installed to remove libgl1-mesa-glx. The result is that 273 packages are due to be updated and cannot be updated because the nvidia driver is broken. Hopefully, they'll fix that soon. Lee, you certainly know more about these things than I do, since I understand nothing about video drivers. What I remember is that a dist-upgrade involving libgl1-mesa-glx (yes, I think that was the name) removed certain nvidia packages and left me with no X. Why does nvidia get the blame? It was working perfectly well until somebody decided that certain parts of it had to be removed? I'm not being sarcastic; there must be some rationale that I don't understand but which might help me if I did understand it. Cheers, David I'm not sarcastic too, but very angry. The nouveau driver is supported, while it's completely unusable for many users, e.g. for real-time audio users. They drop the nv driver, which is needed by many users. They only support the proprietary 173x, if you need to use self-build kernels with a proprietary driver, e.g. regarding to real-time performance. Oh no, wait, they drop it too. Since there are no real-time capable kernels supported by Debian, neither the audio, nor the CNC one you need to build such kernels yourself and than you need a proprietary driver that isn't just for the kernel from the repositories. Debian supports all kinds of flashy bullshit such as compiz, desktop sounds etc., scripts that ignore kernel settings, stuff that is completely useless. I suspect that Debian will become a Linux for toy computers, while tool computers will be dropped. It's not only the graphics, I e.g. has to buy a new mouse, because the mouse wheel of my old mouse won't work anymore. The drivers for my old printer are nearly unusable, while years ago there where drivers available that where able to do high quality printings. Ok, they drop oldish hardware, but do they support new hardware? No, I need to compile ALSA to get my RME HDSP AIO working. I'm pissed off, but well, my Debian is stable, while your Debian doesn't work with your NVIDIAs anymore ;). I'm just angry, because I need to spend that much time with setting up the machine and now with keeping it stable. Note, I needed to upgrade to testing, 10 minutes after I installed stable, because I can't use stable for my needs. If you aren't very careful and do absolutely know what's important for your needs, than I won't call testing a testing release, but a highly experimental, unstable release. I'm using GNOME2, why is is GDM3 installed by default? Since I'm not interested in flashy dark themes where important options became invisible, I've got good luck, because regarding to this, even the toy computer fans run into issues, with broken themes, that aren't that dark as wanted. Perhaps there isn't any target user group for Debian anymore. Have fun, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1310167859.12968.248.camel@debian
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Mahesh T Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk writes: Isn't a basic one required to run the nvidia driver rather than nouveau? If I got the message to which I was responding right, the problem was solved by removing xorg.conf. I was responding to (what seemed to me) an aside comment about the configuration programme which generates xorg.conf. Was myself using nvidia binary drivers for some time, I had gone through the hell on an upgrade. Finally gave up on gnome3, 3D and reverted back to nouveau (and gnome2). Took another 3 hours to figure out that xorg.conf needs to be deleted. I have nvidia GeForce 7300GT video card. I did not find xorg.conf in /etc/X11 But when it starts gui, I get first hazy stripes. Further I get panels half black. Any solutions? -- L V Gandhi
help ! nvidia driver and X
howdy, got a new motherboard and I'm trying to figure out how to get reasonable X working. using vesa and something very low resolution right now. I tried googling on that error symbol and literally got nothing back. Here's the lspci entry: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C79 [GeForce 9400] (rev b1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: ZOTAC International (MCO) Ltd. Device 0ae5 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at fb00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at ee00 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at cf00 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at e000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Kernel driver in use: nvidia Any help greatly appreciated. It's been a while since Xorg -configure couldn't actually configure. Thanks, Brian Xorg -configure gives me the following: X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.37-trunk-amd64 x86_64 Debian Current Operating System: Linux windy 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Wed May 18 23:13:22 UTC 2011 x86_64 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Lin_img0 ro root=UUID=a948d6b6-8395-49a1-9f0f-21a10ceee9c2 Build Date: 18 February 2011 08:27:24PM xorg-server 2:1.7.7-13 (Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org) Current version of pixman: 0.16.4 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jul 7 21:34:17 2011 List of video drivers: r128 radeonhd ark glint v4l savage sisusb chips s3 mach64 sis tga intel voodoo radeon i128 nouveau trident rendition mga nv openchrome ati neomagic tseng apm siliconmotion cirrus tdfx s3virge dummy fbdev vesa (++) Using config file: /root/xorg.conf.new (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d (EE) [drm] No DRICreatePCIBusID symbol Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110707213823.01031...@windy.deldotd.com
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On 07/07/11 at 09:38pm, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: howdy, got a new motherboard and I'm trying to figure out how to get reasonable X working. using vesa and something very low resolution right now. I tried googling on that error symbol and literally got nothing back. Here's the lspci entry: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C79 [GeForce 9400] (rev b1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: ZOTAC International (MCO) Ltd. Device 0ae5 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at fb00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at ee00 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at cf00 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at e000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Kernel driver in use: nvidia Any help greatly appreciated. It's been a while since Xorg -configure couldn't actually configure. Thanks, Brian Xorg -configure gives me the following: X.Org X Server 1.7.7 Release Date: 2010-05-04 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.37-trunk-amd64 x86_64 Debian Current Operating System: Linux windy 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Wed May 18 23:13:22 UTC 2011 x86_64 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Lin_img0 ro root=UUID=a948d6b6-8395-49a1-9f0f-21a10ceee9c2 Build Date: 18 February 2011 08:27:24PM xorg-server 2:1.7.7-13 (Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org) Current version of pixman: 0.16.4 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jul 7 21:34:17 2011 List of video drivers: [...] (++) Using config file: /root/xorg.conf.new (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d (EE) [drm] No DRICreatePCIBusID symbol Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices. Configuration failed. Have you tried running it without a config file? Why are you running X as root? Try disabling the drm driver in xorg.conf if that doesn't work, and maybe post your xorg.conf here -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: help ! nvidia driver and X
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 00:42:57 -0400 William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote: First problem I found - still had an nvidia modules installed, and didn't realize it. so I purged nvidia* and rebooted. Have you tried running it without a config file? Why are you running X as root? I was running X as root simply to config test. thank you ! I forgot about the old run it without a config file trick. that did it. Try disabling the drm driver in xorg.conf if that doesn't work, and maybe post your xorg.conf here It's working using the nouveau driver. 3D ain't so hot, but I don't care about that right now. it's the strangest thing though, Xorg -configure still fails. Thanks again, Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110707215856.25597...@windy.deldotd.com
