Re: help with Debian [How to upload a website to a debian web server]

2006-02-10 Thread Todd Weaver
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:10:52AM -0700, Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:
 So, when I type in the domain name, it opens up to this Debian/Apache page
 Welcome to your new home in cyberspace.
 
 I am not a computer programmer, but feel fairly confident in my computer
 skills, I have created my website using FrontPage.  I need to know how to
 now upload my website to our webpage.

The process is as follows:

1) Contact the administrator that setup your web server.
   Ask him/her to provide you with:
   a) username
   b) password
   c) protocol to upload files with and recommendation on software to use:
  i) ftp
 ii) scp (ex: winscp http://winscp.net/eng/download.php )
iii) ...
   d) server location ( of course cuthbertsmith.com would work).
   e) directory to upload your files to after you connect to your server.

2) Download the recommended software to communicate with your web server.

3) Use that software to connect to your webserver, entering in your
   username/password

4) browse to the directory to upload your files to.

5) upload your files,
   (overwriting the default index.html page that you see now)

Todd.


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Re: help with Debian [How to upload a website to a debian web server]

2006-02-10 Thread Cuthbert Smith Consulting





Thank you, I have tried contacting my host, but have not had much luck which was why I went to Debian/Apache. I will keep trying, thanks for your information.

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Re: help with Debian [How to upload a website to a debian web server]

2006-02-10 Thread ke6isf
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:

 Thank you, I have tried contacting my host, but have not had much luck
 which was why I went to Debian/Apache.  I will keep trying, thanks for
 your information.

Glad to help, but could you please not send your emails as XML?  When you
do that, it runs all your paragraphs together and makes the message
difficult tor ead.

-Dennis Carr


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Re: help with Debian [How to upload a website to a debian web server]

2006-02-10 Thread Kent West

Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:

Thank you, I have tried contacting my host, but have not had much luck 
which was why I went to Debian/Apache.  I will keep trying, thanks for 
your information.


Basically your host is using Debian/Apache on the host server, and since 
you have yet to upload any content, Debian's default page is displayed.


The host provider should have provided you with an ftp address 
(probably), allowing you to ftp up your web content. There are any 
number of ftp programs that would get you in (Windows even has a [very 
poor] ftp client built in). Basically you just connect to that address, 
and copy up the files, and then you should be able to see your content 
from a web browser.


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Re: help with Debian [How to upload a website to a debian web server]

2006-02-10 Thread Mark Fletcher

Cuthbert Smith Consulting wrote:

Thank you, I have tried contacting my host, but have not had much luck 
which was why I went to Debian/Apache.  I will keep trying, thanks for 
your information.


Cuthbert Smith Consulting Partnership Inc.
400, 14727 - 87 Avenue
Edmonton, AB T5R 4E5
Tel:   (780) 484-3232
Fax: (780) 489-8925
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which it was addressed and may contain confidential, personal or
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Here's the bottom line. Your provider should have provided you with 
information, understandable to non-techie people, on how to upload your 
website content on their server. If they didn't, they damn well ought to 
have done.


As someone else mentioned the most common / simplest mechanism is for 
them to give you the address of an FTP (File Transfer Protocol) server 
somewhere on the net that you send your files to. The more sophisticated 
providers will wrap that up in some sort of website so you essentially 
go to the site, log in, click links to upload your HTML etc files, wait 
a short while and hey presto your website is deployed. Less 
sophisticated ones just give you an address, a login and a password but 
will probably give you more help if you ask / pay for it.


If your provider has done none of the above despite your asking 
specifically for help with this problem, you should consider switching 
providers as that quite frankly is crap.


The fact that your provider allows the default Debian / Apache page to 
display if you don't upload content, and doesn't instead replace that 
with their own page saying how great they are and what a great deal 
their subscribers get by using them, tends to place them in the 
non-sophisticated category in my mind -- but I could be wrong. In any 
event they ought to be willing to help non-technical customers get their 
site up and running.


Apologies if I seem to have got unnecessarily fired up about this one, 
but seeing non-technical people lost in the techie wilderness and 
getting no help raises my hackles like nothing else, and some of the 
people in this forum, while all trying to be helpful I'm sure, have been 
guilty of making the same assumptions as your provider seems to have 
made -- viz that you are technically skilled at maintaining a web site.


Anyway focus your energies on your provider, don't take no (or silence) 
for an answer, and ultimately consider switching providers if you don't 
get the help you deserve. (Please don't ask me to recommend a provider 
-- I'm afraid I don't know)


Good luck

Mark


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