Re: holding back buggy packages
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:14:16 +0200 Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:27:57 -0400, Celejar wrote: Hi, A common use case with aptitude (interactive mode ) / apt-listbugs is: a) order an upgrade b) aptitude downloads packages c) apt-listbugs reports some serious bug in a package d) I decide not to install / upgrade the problematic package, after reading the short bug description, or looking it up in the BTS e) hit 'n' to abort the installation / upgrade f) search for the package via something like '^first-few-letters-of-package', and keep looking until I find the right one. g) hold with '=' h) reorder the upgrade Is there any way to automate / consolidate steps e-h? IOW, I'd like some simple way to just tell aptitude: Okay, don't install the buggy package, so just redo the upgrade / installation without it? This is not a dramatic improvement, but a bit quicker, I think: a)-e) as above f) hit 'g' to see the actions preview again g) Scroll to the buggy packages in the actions preview, where they are easy to find, and use 'F' to forbid upgrades to the buggy versions. (You can also use '=' to hold if you prefer; I like forbid-version better because it means that I do not have to remember to remove the hold once a newer, hopefully fixed, version is available.) This seems to be a very good suggestion, but it seems that 'F' won't work when the package isn't yet installed, i.e., when aptitude wants to install some dependency that isn't yet installed, and listbugs flags it as having a serious bug, I can't just go back and do 'F' on that package, but I have to to it my way, with a hold. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100716145107.24b45d4b.cele...@gmail.com
Re: holding back buggy packages
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 06:14, Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es wrote: g) Scroll to the buggy packages in the actions preview, where they are easy to find, and use 'F' to forbid upgrades to the buggy versions. (You can also use '=' to hold if you prefer; I like forbid-version better because it means that I do not have to remember to remove the hold once a newer, hopefully fixed, version is available.) Ah ha! I didn't know about F, but it looks very handy. Thanks a lot. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim1mlymcpsndgn8esbvl2cannxdrui6cgtqn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: holding back buggy packages
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:27:57 -0400, Celejar wrote: Hi, A common use case with aptitude (interactive mode ) / apt-listbugs is: a) order an upgrade b) aptitude downloads packages c) apt-listbugs reports some serious bug in a package d) I decide not to install / upgrade the problematic package, after reading the short bug description, or looking it up in the BTS e) hit 'n' to abort the installation / upgrade f) search for the package via something like '^first-few-letters-of-package', and keep looking until I find the right one. g) hold with '=' h) reorder the upgrade Is there any way to automate / consolidate steps e-h? IOW, I'd like some simple way to just tell aptitude: Okay, don't install the buggy package, so just redo the upgrade / installation without it? This is not a dramatic improvement, but a bit quicker, I think: a)-e) as above f) hit 'g' to see the actions preview again g) Scroll to the buggy packages in the actions preview, where they are easy to find, and use 'F' to forbid upgrades to the buggy versions. (You can also use '=' to hold if you prefer; I like forbid-version better because it means that I do not have to remember to remove the hold once a newer, hopefully fixed, version is available.) h) press 'g' again to go ahead with the upgrade of all other packages I am not even sure if I would like an automatic hold of all buggy packages, because many of the serious/critical bugs reported by apt-listbugs are irrelevant to me in practice (e.g. a package fails to build on an architecture that I do not use, a policy violation that has no effect on me, a file overwrite conflict that I can easily fix myself, etc.). As for the packages that I actually do want to hold back, I can normally change their settings very quickly just by scrolling through the actions preview and hitting 'F' where appropriate. -- Regards,| Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100714131416.ga6...@isar.localhost
Re: holding back buggy packages
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:14:16 +0200 Florian Kulzer florian.kulzer+deb...@icfo.es wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:27:57 -0400, Celejar wrote: Hi, A common use case with aptitude (interactive mode ) / apt-listbugs is: a) order an upgrade b) aptitude downloads packages c) apt-listbugs reports some serious bug in a package d) I decide not to install / upgrade the problematic package, after reading the short bug description, or looking it up in the BTS e) hit 'n' to abort the installation / upgrade f) search for the package via something like '^first-few-letters-of-package', and keep looking until I find the right one. g) hold with '=' h) reorder the upgrade Is there any way to automate / consolidate steps e-h? IOW, I'd like some simple way to just tell aptitude: Okay, don't install the buggy package, so just redo the upgrade / installation without it? This is not a dramatic improvement, but a bit quicker, I think: a)-e) as above f) hit 'g' to see the actions preview again g) Scroll to the buggy packages in the actions preview, where they are easy to find, and use 'F' to forbid upgrades to the buggy versions. (You can also use '=' to hold if you prefer; I like forbid-version better because it means that I do not have to remember to remove the hold once a newer, hopefully fixed, version is available.) h) press 'g' again to go ahead with the upgrade of all other packages You're right, that *is* better, and forbid-version is also a good idea. I am not even sure if I would like an automatic hold of all buggy packages, because many of the serious/critical bugs reported by apt-listbugs are irrelevant to me in practice (e.g. a package fails to build on an architecture that I do not use, a policy violation that has no effect on me, a file overwrite conflict that I can easily fix myself, etc.). As for the packages that I actually do want to hold back, I can Absolutely. That's why I wrote that I only decide to skip upgrading after checking the bug description, and sometimes the BTS. normally change their settings very quickly just by scrolling through the actions preview and hitting 'F' where appropriate. Thanks much for the suggestions. I still think that it would be nice, though, to have a simple way of just telling aptitude to skip some or all packages flagged by apt-listbugs and continue the upgrade. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100714201835.0ddee4d5.cele...@gmail.com
holding back buggy packages
Hi, A common use case with aptitude (interactive mode ) / apt-listbugs is: a) order an upgrade b) aptitude downloads packages c) apt-listbugs reports some serious bug in a package d) I decide not to install / upgrade the problematic package, after reading the short bug description, or looking it up in the BTS e) hit 'n' to abort the installation / upgrade f) search for the package via something like '^first-few-letters-of-package', and keep looking until I find the right one. g) hold with '=' h) reorder the upgrade Is there any way to automate / consolidate steps e-h? IOW, I'd like some simple way to just tell aptitude: Okay, don't install the buggy package, so just redo the upgrade / installation without it? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100713112757.46e127da.cele...@gmail.com
