Re: how can I set the from address in mutt?

2013-05-29 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message -
From: Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com
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Subject: Re: how can I set the from address in mutt?

 No, I had all that. The address rewrite is a pain but not the real 
 issue. I don't want it using my account name. I want it to use an 
 address I set. Staticsafe's advice on .muttrc rules did that trick. I 
 just need to set up different .muttrc files for the various reply-tos 
 I want to use. I suspect I can also program it into mutt but I don't 
 want to devote that much energy to something that I have a really 
 simple way of handling.

 Thanks though.


BTW: a second part of the problem would be to have e-mail going out from 
different e-mail addresses through exim4. Right now I can specify the 
credentials to use in passwd.client but that only allows one credential 
per server so far as I can see (e.g.
  *.rogers.com:a...@rogers.com:mypasswd
  *.yahoo.com:my.yahoo.com:mypassword

I'm not sure if setting my_hdr from: would allow that or interfere with 
the various set from = settings I'm using to get the e-mail to go at all.

I think maybe what you want is msmtp.  It can coexist with exim4.  It is 
similar in principle to the built-in SMTP capabilities of Icedove, for 
example.  If you want to use mutt to send messages from multiple accounts, 
then I think msmtp is the way to go.  Each user can have his own config, 
each with multiple accounts.

-Rob


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Re: how can I set the from address in mutt?

2013-05-28 Thread Gary Dale

On 28/05/13 01:15 AM, Paul Condon wrote:

On 05/27/2013 07:20 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
I want to send e-mail with an attachment via a script. The attachment 
requirement prevents me from using mail but mutt can handle it.


Normally when I send using mail, I can simply use the -r option to 
set the mail user account specified in /etc/exim4/passwd.client. This 
is probably clumsy and there must be a better way of doing it but it 
works.


Now I want to use mutt to send attachments but it doesn't have the -r 
option. Putting in my_hdr From: in .muttrc doesn't do it either.


Can someone suggest a way to make this work? It's probably trivial 
but I can't find the solution via google.





There is a package named exim4-config . Run dpkg-reconfigure 
exim4-config , i.e. reconfigure the config package for exim4, which is 
separate from the actual exim4 package. Answer the questions and you 
get return address overwriting in exim4 plus other stuff that you 
would have never known you needed. To handle a password authorization, 
read /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.Debian.html section 2.3 and
man exim_passwd_client for the details of the format of the file 
passwd.client


HTH,
Paul


No, I had all that. The address rewrite is a pain but not the real 
issue. I don't want it using my account name. I want it to use an 
address I set. Staticsafe's advice on .muttrc rules did that trick. I 
just need to set up different .muttrc files for the various reply-tos I 
want to use. I suspect I can also program it into mutt but I don't want 
to devote that much energy to something that I have a really simple way 
of handling.


Thanks though.


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Re: how can I set the from address in mutt?

2013-05-28 Thread Gary Dale

On 28/05/13 11:51 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 28/05/13 01:15 AM, Paul Condon wrote:

On 05/27/2013 07:20 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
I want to send e-mail with an attachment via a script. The 
attachment requirement prevents me from using mail but mutt can 
handle it.


Normally when I send using mail, I can simply use the -r option to 
set the mail user account specified in /etc/exim4/passwd.client. 
This is probably clumsy and there must be a better way of doing it 
but it works.


Now I want to use mutt to send attachments but it doesn't have the 
-r option. Putting in my_hdr From: in .muttrc doesn't do it either.


Can someone suggest a way to make this work? It's probably trivial 
but I can't find the solution via google.





There is a package named exim4-config . Run dpkg-reconfigure 
exim4-config , i.e. reconfigure the config package for exim4, which 
is separate from the actual exim4 package. Answer the questions and 
you get return address overwriting in exim4 plus other stuff that you 
would have never known you needed. To handle a password 
authorization, read /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.Debian.html section 
2.3 and
man exim_passwd_client for the details of the format of the file 
passwd.client


HTH,
Paul


No, I had all that. The address rewrite is a pain but not the real 
issue. I don't want it using my account name. I want it to use an 
address I set. Staticsafe's advice on .muttrc rules did that trick. I 
just need to set up different .muttrc files for the various reply-tos 
I want to use. I suspect I can also program it into mutt but I don't 
want to devote that much energy to something that I have a really 
simple way of handling.


Thanks though.



BTW: a second part of the problem would be to have e-mail going out from 
different e-mail addresses through exim4. Right now I can specify the 
credentials to use in passwd.client but that only allows one credential 
per server so far as I can see (e.g.

 *.rogers.com:a...@rogers.com:mypasswd
 *.yahoo.com:my.yahoo.com:mypassword

I'm not sure if setting my_hdr from: would allow that or interfere with 
the various set from = settings I'm using to get the e-mail to go at all.



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how can I set the from address in mutt?

2013-05-27 Thread Gary Dale
I want to send e-mail with an attachment via a script. The attachment 
requirement prevents me from using mail but mutt can handle it.


Normally when I send using mail, I can simply use the -r option to set 
the mail user account specified in /etc/exim4/passwd.client. This is 
probably clumsy and there must be a better way of doing it but it works.


Now I want to use mutt to send attachments but it doesn't have the -r 
option. Putting in my_hdr From: in .muttrc doesn't do it either.


Can someone suggest a way to make this work? It's probably trivial but I 
can't find the solution via google.



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Re: how can I set the from address in mutt?

2013-05-27 Thread staticsafe
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 09:20:51PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
 I want to send e-mail with an attachment via a script. The
 attachment requirement prevents me from using mail but mutt can
 handle it.
 
 Normally when I send using mail, I can simply use the -r option to
 set the mail user account specified in /etc/exim4/passwd.client.
 This is probably clumsy and there must be a better way of doing it
 but it works.
 
 Now I want to use mutt to send attachments but it doesn't have the
 -r option. Putting in my_hdr From: in .muttrc doesn't do it
 either.
 
 Can someone suggest a way to make this work? It's probably trivial
 but I can't find the solution via google.
 
 
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In .muttrc:
set from = t...@example.com
set realname = John Doe

See also:
http://dev.mutt.org/trac/wiki/MuttFaq/Header
http://wiki.debian.org/Mutt
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Re: how can I set the from address in mutt?

2013-05-27 Thread Gary Dale

On 27/05/13 09:55 PM, staticsafe wrote:

set from =t...@example.com
set realname = John Doe
Thanks. I tried it but e-mail is still not getting through. Again, if I 
replace mutt with mail and use -r with the from address I use in set 
from, mail works.


In the queue query below, the it looks like it's using my account name 
and domain I use, which unfortunately doesn't have e-mail services. The 
garyd...@rahim-dale.org is probably constructed somewhere then it tries 
to send e-mail through the server I told it about but using an e-mail 
account that I have with Rogers. Rogers rejects it because they don't 
know garyd...@rahim-dale.org.


It looks like its complaining about not having a from address though.


#exim4 -qff -v
LOG: queue_run MAIN
  Start queue run: pid=7689 -qff
delivering 1UhATj-0001to-1o (queue run pid 7689)
LOG: MAIN
  Unfrozen by forced delivery
R: smarthost for garyd...@rahim-dale.org
T: remote_smtp_smarthost for garyd...@rahim-dale.org
Transport port=25 replaced by host-specific port=587
Connecting to smtp-rog.mail.a03.yahoodns.net [67.195.22.104]:587 ... 
connected

  SMTP 220 smtp102.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ESMTP
  SMTP EHLO transponder.rahim-dale
  SMTP 250-smtp102.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XYMCOOKIE
 250-PIPELINING
 250-SIZE 41697280
 250 8BITMIME
  SMTP AUTH PLAIN 
  SMTP 235 OK, go ahead
  SMTP MAIL FROM: SIZE=2673
  SMTP RCPT TO:garyd...@rahim-dale.org
  SMTP DATA
  SMTP 553 From address not verified - see 
http://www.rogershelp.com/verify-email

  SMTP 503 Wrong sequence of commands : MAIL FROM needed
  SMTP 503 Wrong sequence of commands : MAIL FROM needed
  SMTP QUIT
LOG: MAIN
  ** garyd...@rahim-dale.org R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost: SMTP 
error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM: SIZE=2673: host 
smtp-rog.mail.a03.yahoodns.net [67.195.22.104]: 553 From address not 
verified - see http://www.rogershelp.com/verify-email

LOG: MAIN
  Frozen (delivery error message)
LOG: queue_run MAIN
  End queue run: pid=7689 -qff


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Re: how can I set the from address in mutt?

2013-05-27 Thread Gary Dale

On 27/05/13 11:38 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 27/05/13 09:55 PM, staticsafe wrote:

set from =t...@example.com
set realname = John Doe
Thanks. I tried it but e-mail is still not getting through. Again, if 
I replace mutt with mail and use -r with the from address I use in set 
from, mail works.


In the queue query below, the it looks like it's using my account name 
and domain I use, which unfortunately doesn't have e-mail services. 
The garyd...@rahim-dale.org is probably constructed somewhere then it 
tries to send e-mail through the server I told it about but using an 
e-mail account that I have with Rogers. Rogers rejects it because they 
don't know garyd...@rahim-dale.org.


It looks like its complaining about not having a from address though.


#exim4 -qff -v
LOG: queue_run MAIN
  Start queue run: pid=7689 -qff
delivering 1UhATj-0001to-1o (queue run pid 7689)
LOG: MAIN
  Unfrozen by forced delivery
R: smarthost for garyd...@rahim-dale.org
T: remote_smtp_smarthost for garyd...@rahim-dale.org
Transport port=25 replaced by host-specific port=587
Connecting to smtp-rog.mail.a03.yahoodns.net [67.195.22.104]:587 ... 
connected

  SMTP 220 smtp102.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ESMTP
  SMTP EHLO transponder.rahim-dale
  SMTP 250-smtp102.rog.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN XYMCOOKIE
 250-PIPELINING
 250-SIZE 41697280
 250 8BITMIME
  SMTP AUTH PLAIN 
  SMTP 235 OK, go ahead
  SMTP MAIL FROM: SIZE=2673
  SMTP RCPT TO:garyd...@rahim-dale.org
  SMTP DATA
  SMTP 553 From address not verified - see 
http://www.rogershelp.com/verify-email

  SMTP 503 Wrong sequence of commands : MAIL FROM needed
  SMTP 503 Wrong sequence of commands : MAIL FROM needed
  SMTP QUIT
LOG: MAIN
  ** garyd...@rahim-dale.org R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost: SMTP 
error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM: SIZE=2673: host 
smtp-rog.mail.a03.yahoodns.net [67.195.22.104]: 553 From address not 
verified - see http://www.rogershelp.com/verify-email

LOG: MAIN
  Frozen (delivery error message)
LOG: queue_run MAIN
  End queue run: pid=7689 -qff



OK, got it. It needs set use_envelope_from=yes as well.

Thanks!


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Re: how can I set the from address in mutt?

2013-05-27 Thread Paul Condon

On 05/27/2013 07:20 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
I want to send e-mail with an attachment via a script. The attachment 
requirement prevents me from using mail but mutt can handle it.


Normally when I send using mail, I can simply use the -r option to set 
the mail user account specified in /etc/exim4/passwd.client. This is 
probably clumsy and there must be a better way of doing it but it works.


Now I want to use mutt to send attachments but it doesn't have the -r 
option. Putting in my_hdr From: in .muttrc doesn't do it either.


Can someone suggest a way to make this work? It's probably trivial but 
I can't find the solution via google.





There is a package named exim4-config . Run dpkg-reconfigure 
exim4-config , i.e. reconfigure the config package for exim4, which is 
separate from the actual exim4 package. Answer the questions and you get 
return address overwriting in exim4 plus other stuff that you would have 
never known you needed. To handle a password authorization, read 
/usr/share/doc/exim4/README.Debian.html section 2.3 and
man exim_passwd_client for the details of the format of the file 
passwd.client


HTH,
Paul


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