Re: how can I see booting messages

2006-10-29 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 28.10.06 02:27, Jude DaShiell wrote:
 as root, dmesg | grep -i hdd | less should do it for you.

note that dmesg buffer may be overridden after system run. check
/var/log/dmesg which contains content of dmesg buffer as it was through the
booting process.

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re: how can I see booting messages

2006-10-28 Thread Jude DaShiell
as root, dmesg | grep -i hdd | less should do it for you.  dmesg doesn't 
store everything, I've had error messages speak that later were nowhere to 
be found after running dmesg but hdd information is preserved.  If debian 
doesn't speak, I can't use it and you do need to have speech temporarily 
disabled during boot sequence or the system locks up, so using a trick 
like dmesg dmesg.log then less dmesg.log allows me to hear what dmesg.log 
preserves.  It's like the syscap utility for dos and windows.  Just put 
the syscap line as first line of config.sys and reboot the computer and 
later have a look at syscap.log in the root directory.  If those two fail, 
a hardware solution would be a weasel card which temporarily replaces the 
monitor card and is hooked up to a printer or other computer.  Everything 
that would go across the screen can be captured during boot up.  I don't 
recommend weasel cards unless you have a spare $350.00 to spend though.




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RE: how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-27 Thread debian

Hello,

Works fine for me now, but I was wondering...
Is there a way to use normal terminal (the monitor, keyboard of the
specific server) and also serial redirection at the same time ?
When my server restarts, I can see everything on the monitor but also in
my ZOC terminal session on my laptop, which is connected to the COM port
on that server.
It would be easy if you just connect your serial cable to a server and
have instant access.
The way it is configured now, I only get output on my zoc terminal
session and not anymore on the server monitor as soon as grub starts
booting.

Grtz,
Verus

-Original Message-
From: Miles Fidelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 26 oktober 2006 14:16
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how can i see booting messages ??

debian wrote:
 Hello,

 I still have problems with my new installation.
 There is some important information (i think) displayed just after
grub
 starts booting about the hdd, but i can't see what it is because it
goes
 to fast and it is too far up to go with CTRL-PageUP.
 So, is there i way that i can pause or stop the messages so that i
seen
 what it is ?
  
This question seems to get asked at least once a month.

About the only thing you can do is use a terminal or terminal program
with a good capture buffer.  There are a whole bunch of startup messages

that only go to the terminal and don't get logged anywhere.

If you're setting up a server, you can set things up to use a serial
terminal as your console, and then plug in a PC or laptop with a
terminal emulator program that can capture all the traffic.  If you're
building on a desktop PC, it might be a bit harder.

There are some references floating around for how to use a serial
terminal as a console, maybe start with:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO-17.html
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/index.html

I did this recently when building a couple of rackmount servers and it
was pretty helpful to capture the traffic.

Looking back at my (somewhat sketchy) notes, the basic steps involved:

1. connect both a regular terminal and a serial terminal

Note: Depending on what you're using, this may be the most difficult
part.  In my case, I was using a PowerBook, and had to pull together the

right combination of:
- USB-to-RS232 adapter (it's not just a cable, there are some level
changes going on so these beasts actually have a chip embedded in the
cable)
- RS232-to-RS232 adapter(s) for gender (male/female) and type (DCE/DTE)
I can't remember what I did here anymore, I just keep the properly
configured cable in my laptop case.
- terminal program: these are surprisingly hard to come by these days -
it's not that often one has to plug a dumb tty into a modem anymore - I
ended up digging up a copy of Zterm (Mac)
- configuring the terminal program (remember word length, parity, stop
bits, port speed and such?)

2. finding the right BIOS settings to:
- use the serial port (COM2 in my case) if a serial terminal is
connected
- my server also has an option to use both the serial port and the
normal display

3. setting grub to use a serial terminal - somewhere in the grub config
(or maybe it was typed to grub - as I said, sketchy notes

serial --unit=0 --speed=9600 --word=8 --parity=no stop=1
terminal --timeout=10 serial console

I believe these two commands first set up the serial port, then tell
grub to use it for the terminal unless it times out in which case it
uses the regular terminal.

4. telling grub to start the kernal using the serial console - in my
case the boot command is:

kernel kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-3-686 root=/dev/mapper/rootvolume-rootlv ro

console=tty0 console=ttyS1,115200n8

5. going through the startup routine using only command line prompts

Hopes this helps.

Miles


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Re: how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-27 Thread Miles Fidelman
It really depends on your specific hardware and BIOS.  I can do it on my 
server, but your mileage may vary.


For this one, you really do have to read the manual, and probably search 
online documentation as well.


Miles

ebian wrote:

Hello,

Works fine for me now, but I was wondering...
Is there a way to use normal terminal (the monitor, keyboard of the
specific server) and also serial redirection at the same time ?
When my server restarts, I can see everything on the monitor but also in
my ZOC terminal session on my laptop, which is connected to the COM port
on that server.
It would be easy if you just connect your serial cable to a server and
have instant access.
The way it is configured now, I only get output on my zoc terminal
session and not anymore on the server monitor as soon as grub starts
booting.

Grtz,
Verus

-Original Message-
From: Miles Fidelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 26 oktober 2006 14:16
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: how can i see booting messages ??

debian wrote:
  

Hello,

I still have problems with my new installation.
There is some important information (i think) displayed just after


grub
  

starts booting about the hdd, but i can't see what it is because it


goes
  

to fast and it is too far up to go with CTRL-PageUP.
So, is there i way that i can pause or stop the messages so that i


seen
  

what it is ?
 


This question seems to get asked at least once a month.

About the only thing you can do is use a terminal or terminal program
with a good capture buffer.  There are a whole bunch of startup messages

that only go to the terminal and don't get logged anywhere.

If you're setting up a server, you can set things up to use a serial
terminal as your console, and then plug in a PC or laptop with a
terminal emulator program that can capture all the traffic.  If you're
building on a desktop PC, it might be a bit harder.

There are some references floating around for how to use a serial
terminal as a console, maybe start with:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO-17.html
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/index.html

I did this recently when building a couple of rackmount servers and it
was pretty helpful to capture the traffic.

Looking back at my (somewhat sketchy) notes, the basic steps involved:

1. connect both a regular terminal and a serial terminal

Note: Depending on what you're using, this may be the most difficult
part.  In my case, I was using a PowerBook, and had to pull together the

right combination of:
- USB-to-RS232 adapter (it's not just a cable, there are some level
changes going on so these beasts actually have a chip embedded in the
cable)
- RS232-to-RS232 adapter(s) for gender (male/female) and type (DCE/DTE)
I can't remember what I did here anymore, I just keep the properly
configured cable in my laptop case.
- terminal program: these are surprisingly hard to come by these days -
it's not that often one has to plug a dumb tty into a modem anymore - I
ended up digging up a copy of Zterm (Mac)
- configuring the terminal program (remember word length, parity, stop
bits, port speed and such?)

2. finding the right BIOS settings to:
- use the serial port (COM2 in my case) if a serial terminal is
connected
- my server also has an option to use both the serial port and the
normal display

3. setting grub to use a serial terminal - somewhere in the grub config
(or maybe it was typed to grub - as I said, sketchy notes

serial --unit=0 --speed=9600 --word=8 --parity=no stop=1
terminal --timeout=10 serial console

I believe these two commands first set up the serial port, then tell
grub to use it for the terminal unless it times out in which case it
uses the regular terminal.

4. telling grub to start the kernal using the serial console - in my
case the boot command is:

kernel kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-3-686 root=/dev/mapper/rootvolume-rootlv ro

console=tty0 console=ttyS1,115200n8

5. going through the startup routine using only command line prompts

Hopes this helps.

Miles


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Re: how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-27 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 01:42:04PM +0200, debian wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Works fine for me now, but I was wondering...
 Is there a way to use normal terminal (the monitor, keyboard of the
 specific server) and also serial redirection at the same time ?
 When my server restarts, I can see everything on the monitor but also in
 my ZOC terminal session on my laptop, which is connected to the COM port
 on that server.
 It would be easy if you just connect your serial cable to a server and
 have instant access.
 The way it is configured now, I only get output on my zoc terminal
 session and not anymore on the server monitor as soon as grub starts
 booting.
 
 Grtz,
 Verus

It depends.  For example:

Bios is usually one or the other (usually just the graphics
card).

Grub I think is one or the other, not both.

The kernel can do both (or multiple console outputs), just tell
it both in the console= line, see the serial-console howto.

Unless I need the serial port for something else, I generally
have the kernel send console messages to both, and have a getty
run on ttyS0.  If I don't need the serial console I can ignore
it.  When I do need it, it is already set up.

Doug.


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Re: how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
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 On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 06:18:38PM +0200, B_Kloss wrote:
  Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 13:29 schrieb debian:
   Hello,
  
   I still have problems with my new installation.
   There is some important information (i think) displayed just after grub
   starts booting about the hdd, but i can't see what it is because it goes
   to fast and it is too far up to go with CTRL-PageUP.
   So, is there i way that i can pause or stop the messages so that i seen
   what it is ?
 
 Let's vary the question to one I sometimes have -- there's important 
 information (i think) displayed just before I get the black screen of 
 death, but I can't see it because it goes by too fast and CTRL-PageUP no 
 longer works.  Is there a way I can reboot (perhaps with a rescue 
 disk) and see the messages so that i can see what they were?

What is the last message you can see?

Regards,
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how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-26 Thread debian

Hello,

I still have problems with my new installation.
There is some important information (i think) displayed just after grub
starts booting about the hdd, but i can't see what it is because it goes
to fast and it is too far up to go with CTRL-PageUP.
So, is there i way that i can pause or stop the messages so that i seen
what it is ?

Thnx,
Verus.



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RE: how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-26 Thread Deepak Kumar Tripathi
Title: RE: how can i see booting messages ??






use
#dmesg  debian
#nano debian

will show you the boot message

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Subject: how can i see booting messages ??


Hello,

I still have problems with my new installation.
There is some important information (i think) displayed just after grub
starts booting about the hdd, but i can't see what it is because it goes
to fast and it is too far up to go with CTRL-PageUP.
So, is there i way that i can pause or stop the messages so that i seen
what it is ?

Thnx,
Verus.



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Re: how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-26 Thread Andreas Berglund

debian wrote:

Hello,

I still have problems with my new installation.
There is some important information (i think) displayed just after grub
starts booting about the hdd, but i can't see what it is because it goes
to fast and it is too far up to go with CTRL-PageUP.
So, is there i way that i can pause or stop the messages so that i seen
what it is ?


The Scroll Lock button pauses the messages.

/Andreas


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Re: how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-26 Thread Miles Fidelman

debian wrote:

Hello,

I still have problems with my new installation.
There is some important information (i think) displayed just after grub
starts booting about the hdd, but i can't see what it is because it goes
to fast and it is too far up to go with CTRL-PageUP.
So, is there i way that i can pause or stop the messages so that i seen
what it is ?
  

This question seems to get asked at least once a month.

About the only thing you can do is use a terminal or terminal program 
with a good capture buffer.  There are a whole bunch of startup messages 
that only go to the terminal and don't get logged anywhere. 

If you're setting up a server, you can set things up to use a serial 
terminal as your console, and then plug in a PC or laptop with a 
terminal emulator program that can capture all the traffic.  If you're 
building on a desktop PC, it might be a bit harder.


There are some references floating around for how to use a serial 
terminal as a console, maybe start with:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO-17.html
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/index.html

I did this recently when building a couple of rackmount servers and it 
was pretty helpful to capture the traffic.


Looking back at my (somewhat sketchy) notes, the basic steps involved:

1. connect both a regular terminal and a serial terminal

Note: Depending on what you're using, this may be the most difficult 
part.  In my case, I was using a PowerBook, and had to pull together the 
right combination of:
- USB-to-RS232 adapter (it's not just a cable, there are some level 
changes going on so these beasts actually have a chip embedded in the cable)

- RS232-to-RS232 adapter(s) for gender (male/female) and type (DCE/DTE)
I can't remember what I did here anymore, I just keep the properly 
configured cable in my laptop case.
- terminal program: these are surprisingly hard to come by these days - 
it's not that often one has to plug a dumb tty into a modem anymore - I 
ended up digging up a copy of Zterm (Mac)
- configuring the terminal program (remember word length, parity, stop 
bits, port speed and such?)


2. finding the right BIOS settings to:
- use the serial port (COM2 in my case) if a serial terminal is connected
- my server also has an option to use both the serial port and the 
normal display


3. setting grub to use a serial terminal - somewhere in the grub config 
(or maybe it was typed to grub - as I said, sketchy notes


serial --unit=0 --speed=9600 --word=8 --parity=no stop=1
terminal --timeout=10 serial console

I believe these two commands first set up the serial port, then tell 
grub to use it for the terminal unless it times out in which case it 
uses the regular terminal.


4. telling grub to start the kernal using the serial console - in my 
case the boot command is:


kernel kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-3-686 root=/dev/mapper/rootvolume-rootlv ro 
console=tty0 console=ttyS1,115200n8


5. going through the startup routine using only command line prompts

Hopes this helps.

Miles


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Re: how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-26 Thread B_Kloss
Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 13:29 schrieb debian:
 Hello,

 I still have problems with my new installation.
 There is some important information (i think) displayed just after grub
 starts booting about the hdd, but i can't see what it is because it goes
 to fast and it is too far up to go with CTRL-PageUP.
 So, is there i way that i can pause or stop the messages so that i seen
 what it is ?

 Thnx,
 Verus.


Hi,

in /var/log you can find various files with information about your system like
dmesg
messages
and others
 
Installing hwinfo with aptitude and

hwinfo  myhw.info

creates a file with useful systeminformation.

Best regards

Bernd


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Re: how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-26 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 06:18:38PM +0200, B_Kloss wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 13:29 schrieb debian:
  Hello,
 
  I still have problems with my new installation.
  There is some important information (i think) displayed just after grub
  starts booting about the hdd, but i can't see what it is because it goes
  to fast and it is too far up to go with CTRL-PageUP.
  So, is there i way that i can pause or stop the messages so that i seen
  what it is ?

Let's vary the question to one I sometimes have -- there's important 
information (i think) displayed just before I get the black screen of 
death, but I can't see it because it goes by too fast and CTRL-PageUP no 
longer works.  Is there a way I can reboot (perhaps with a rescue 
disk) and see the messages so that i can see what they were?

-- hendrik


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Re: how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-26 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 01:14:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 06:18:38PM +0200, B_Kloss wrote:
  Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2006 13:29 schrieb debian:
   Hello,
  
   I still have problems with my new installation.
   There is some important information (i think) displayed just after grub
   starts booting about the hdd, but i can't see what it is because it goes
   to fast and it is too far up to go with CTRL-PageUP.
   So, is there i way that i can pause or stop the messages so that i seen
   what it is ?
 
 Let's vary the question to one I sometimes have -- there's important 
 information (i think) displayed just before I get the black screen of 
 death, but I can't see it because it goes by too fast and CTRL-PageUP no 
 longer works.  Is there a way I can reboot (perhaps with a rescue 
 disk) and see the messages so that i can see what they were?
 
 
Not if the /var/log partition is not mounted at the time of the
messages.  Despite (or because of) it being old-tech, there is still a
place for a serial console.  Booting problems is one of them.  Set
things up so that console messages go to the regular screen AND the
serial port.  Hook up a terminal or a terminal-emulator on another
computer and save the output.  Or, hook up a printer with a serial
interface.  I don't know if its possible to get the kernel to put output
to a parallel port; I don't know if your computer has a parallel port.

Doug.


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Re: how can i see booting messages ??

2006-10-26 Thread Mumia W..

On 10/26/2006 07:15 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:

debian wrote:

Hello,

I still have problems with my new installation.
There is some important information (i think) displayed just after grub
starts booting about the hdd, but i can't see what it is because it goes
to fast and it is too far up to go with CTRL-PageUP.
So, is there i way that i can pause or stop the messages so that i seen
what it is ?
  

This question seems to get asked at least once a month.

About the only thing you can do is use a terminal or terminal program 
with a good capture buffer.  There are a whole bunch of startup messages 
that only go to the terminal and don't get logged anywhere.


Some of them can be logged by enabling boot logging: /etc/default/bootlogd

If you're setting up a server, you can set things up to use a serial 
terminal as your console, and then plug in a PC or laptop with a 
terminal emulator program that can capture all the traffic.  If you're 
building on a desktop PC, it might be a bit harder.


There are some references floating around for how to use a serial 
terminal as a console, maybe start with:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Text-Terminal-HOWTO-17.html
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/index.html

I did this recently when building a couple of rackmount servers and it 
was pretty helpful to capture the traffic.


Looking back at my (somewhat sketchy) notes, the basic steps involved:

1. connect both a regular terminal and a serial terminal

Note: Depending on what you're using, this may be the most difficult 
part.  In my case, I was using a PowerBook, and had to pull together the 
right combination of:
- USB-to-RS232 adapter (it's not just a cable, there are some level 
changes going on so these beasts actually have a chip embedded in the 
cable)

- RS232-to-RS232 adapter(s) for gender (male/female) and type (DCE/DTE)
I can't remember what I did here anymore, I just keep the properly 
configured cable in my laptop case.
- terminal program: these are surprisingly hard to come by these days - 
it's not that often one has to plug a dumb tty into a modem anymore - I 
ended up digging up a copy of Zterm (Mac)
- configuring the terminal program (remember word length, parity, stop 
bits, port speed and such?)


2. finding the right BIOS settings to:
- use the serial port (COM2 in my case) if a serial terminal is connected
- my server also has an option to use both the serial port and the 
normal display


3. setting grub to use a serial terminal - somewhere in the grub config 
(or maybe it was typed to grub - as I said, sketchy notes


serial --unit=0 --speed=9600 --word=8 --parity=no stop=1
terminal --timeout=10 serial console

I believe these two commands first set up the serial port, then tell 
grub to use it for the terminal unless it times out in which case it 
uses the regular terminal.


4. telling grub to start the kernal using the serial console - in my 
case the boot command is:


kernel kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-3-686 root=/dev/mapper/rootvolume-rootlv ro 
console=tty0 console=ttyS1,115200n8


5. going through the startup routine using only command line prompts

Hopes this helps.

Miles




Or you could prevent gdm from starting upon boot and press Shift-PageUp. 
Shift-PageUp won't work if gdm takes over, so gdm would have to be 
disabled for whatever runlevel you want to do this in.



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