Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
On Sb, 18 oct 14, 11:29:32, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: I still noticed a curious fact Impossible to find what package provides /etc/samba/smb.conf apt-file search smb.conf only gives /usr/share/samba/smb.conf, from samba-common. /usr/share/samba/smb.conf and /etc/samba/dmb.conf are strictly identical Nevertheless, if I remove /etc/samba/smb.conf, the reinstall of samba or samba-common fails I'm guessing /usr/share/samba/smb.conf is copied to /etc/samba/smb.conf in some postinst script (probably of samba-common). It's been a while since trying out samba, but I seem to recall editing smb.conf was a must, so marking it as dpkg-conffile would now work so well ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:35:15 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 18 oct 14, 11:29:32, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: I still noticed a curious fact Impossible to find what package provides /etc/samba/smb.conf apt-file search smb.conf only gives /usr/share/samba/smb.conf, from samba-common. /usr/share/samba/smb.conf and /etc/samba/dmb.conf are strictly identical Nevertheless, if I remove /etc/samba/smb.conf, the reinstall of samba or samba-common fails I'm guessing /usr/share/samba/smb.conf is copied to /etc/samba/smb.conf in some postinst script (probably of samba-common). It's been a while since trying out samba, but I seem to recall editing smb.conf was a must, so marking it as dpkg-conffile would now work so well ;) Bear in mind that the full samba system is only required for a server i.e. a machine offering shares, only the client parts are needed to access shares elsewhere, and they do not generally need central configuration. Shares mounted by cifs through /etc/fstab will have access configuration built in there. Linux smb access software mostly doesn't worry about Windows workgroup names. Yes, there were samba issues just after my switch to systemd on my old installation. I'm curious as to why someone thought that five *minutes* was an appropriate timeout for trying to close smb shares. As far as I can see, on a local network, if it hasn't happened in about ten seconds plus any actual cache writing time, it's never going to happen. I've also seen a lot of failures to close cifs shares before removing networking in sid over the years (who knew that you shouldn't shut down networking until *after* the sessions are closed?), though the normal timeout then is a mere two minutes. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141020124212.1491a...@jresid.jretrading.com
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: I'm guessing /usr/share/samba/smb.conf is copied to /etc/samba/smb.conf in some postinst script (probably of samba-common). Yes, but if it does that, why is it complaining that /etc/samba/smf.conf is missing? best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.11.1410201415160.25...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 14:19:19, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: I'm guessing /usr/share/samba/smb.conf is copied to /etc/samba/smb.conf in some postinst script (probably of samba-common). Yes, but if it does that, why is it complaining that /etc/samba/smf.conf is missing? At what stage? The postinst script of a package is only executed at installation time. What you did in the meantime... Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: At what stage? The postinst script of a package is only executed at installation time. What you did in the meantime... I did: apt-get --reinstall install samba-common So, it seems that with --reinstall, the postinst script is not executed, which is not what I would expect. I saw: You can reinstall a package with sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename. This completely removes the package (but not its dependencies), and then re-install the package. best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.11.1410201605440.22...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
On Lu, 20 oct 14, 16:16:00, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: At what stage? The postinst script of a package is only executed at installation time. What you did in the meantime... I did: apt-get --reinstall install samba-common So, it seems that with --reinstall, the postinst script is not executed, which is not what I would expect. You might have better success with dpkg-reconfigure samba-common instead. I saw: You can reinstall a package with sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename. This completely removes the package (but not its dependencies), and then re-install the package. That doesn't appear to be from the apt-get manual and seems wrong to me. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: You might have better success with dpkg-reconfigure samba-common it's not the same. I was faced to the 5 minutes waiting time at shutdown, and wanted to check whether this came from a problem when installing samba-common/samba. Anyway, as I said, it's solved with the new version. I saw: You can reinstall a package with sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename. This completely removes the package (but not its dependencies), and then re-install the package. That doesn't appear to be from the apt-get manual and seems wrong to me. of course, the man says nothing! I tried to find elsewhere a more detailed description of what exactly does --reinstall, and found the above lines. In the absence of informations, it seems the only solution is to look at the source !! best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.11.1410202010160.11...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
dn Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Steve Litt wrote: . . . My suspicion at this point would be either a flaw in his smb.conf (which is easy to test by temporarily replacing it with a minimal) or Samba itself. . . . I was on the way to do that, but I first re-installed samba and samba-common packages, without modyfing smb.conf. I noticed that the version changed from 2:4.1.11+dfsg-1 to 2:4.1.11+dfsg-2 After that, the shutdown lasted 3 seconds! So, it seems that systemd is not guilty for the shutdown problem. I still noticed a curious fact Impossible to find what package provides /etc/samba/smb.conf apt-file search smb.conf only gives /usr/share/samba/smb.conf, from samba-common. /usr/share/samba/smb.conf and /etc/samba/dmb.conf are strictly identical Nevertheless, if I remove /etc/samba/smb.conf, the reinstall of samba or samba-common fails best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.11.1410181110220.8...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
Pierre Frenkiel wrote hi, it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1) has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly for samba (5 minutes). Trying to kill samba manually before the shutdown did not solve the problem. If this is the future with Systemd, then all the more reason to ensure we maintain more seasoned init systems, which we know work without issues like this. Has Debian utterly forgotten its roots of stability and conservative approach to adopting experimental software in its stable releases? -- View this message in context: http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/how-to-boot-in-les-than-8-minutes-tp3393095p3394716.html Sent from the Debian User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1413594901817-3394716.p...@n7.nabble.com
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:15:01 -0700 (MST) Buntunub mckis...@gmail.com wrote: Pierre Frenkiel wrote hi, it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1) has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly for samba (5 minutes). Trying to kill samba manually before the shutdown did not solve the problem. If this is the future with Systemd, then all the more reason to ensure we maintain more seasoned init systems, which we know work without issues like this. Has Debian utterly forgotten its roots of stability and conservative approach to adopting experimental software in its stable releases? Hey, I hate systemd as much as the next guy, but the diagnosis implied by the OP's quoted text is nowhere near ready to declare systemd as the root cause. Contrarily, the fact that his shutting down manually reproduced his symptom makes it unlikely that any PID1, including systemd, is responsible. My suspicion at this point would be either a flaw in his smb.conf (which is easy to test by temporarily replacing it with a minimal) or Samba itself. It turned out he was starting two of them, one by systemd and one elsewhere. Umm, err, blush, I recently had the exact same problem with daemontools! SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141017213414.05b7b...@mydesq2.domain.cxm
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
On 18/10/14 12:34, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:15:01 -0700 (MST) Buntunub mckis...@gmail.com wrote: Pierre Frenkiel wrote hi, --88--- My suspicion at this point would be either a flaw in his smb.conf (which is easy to test by temporarily replacing it with a minimal) or Samba itself. testparm -v might also be instructive. --88--- Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5441bf9b.5020...@gmail.com
how to boot in les than 8 minutes
hi, it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1) has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly for samba (5 minutes). Trying to kill samba manually before the shutdown did not solve the problem. I then tried to downgrade to version 208-8, which is available according the output of apt-cache madison systemd systemd | 215-5+b1 | http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main i386 Packages systemd | 208-8 | http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main Sources systemd | 215-5 | http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main Sources but I get: apt-get install systemd=208-8 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Version '208-8' for 'systemd' was not found What is wrong? best regards, -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.11.1410161835470.18...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
Am Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2014, 18:52:41 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel: hi, it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1) has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly for samba (5 minutes). Trying to kill samba manually before the shutdown did not solve the problem. I then tried to downgrade to version 208-8, which is available according the output of apt-cache madison systemd systemd | 215-5+b1 | http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main i386 Packages systemd | 208-8 | http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main Sources ^^^ systemd | 215-5 | http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main Sources ^^^ Just source packages. but I get: apt-get install systemd=208-8 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Version '208-8' for 'systemd' was not found What is wrong? See above. You would need to get the package with apt-get source and build it yourself. Since such a setup would be unsupported I suggest reporting the bugs. It will also help Debian Jessie have less bugs when its released. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/152.IfX0URMpqL@merkaba
Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes
Am 16.10.2014 um 18:52 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel: hi, it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1) has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly for samba (5 minutes). The samba package does not properly clean up it's config files on upgrades. See the RC bug that's filed against samba. Run update-rc.d samba remove to fix that. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
