Re: how to fix aptitude errors upgrading LMDE UP3 - UP4

2012-04-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 16 apr 12, 14:34:33, Tom Roche wrote:
 
 (Apologies if this is not the correct place to post (is there an
 apt-user or aptitude-user list?), but it's been helpful in past.)

This is the correct list for apt-get/aptitude usage in Debian ;)
 
[snip]

I see that you fixed your problem by using apt-get instead of aptitude, 
but I'd like to make a few suggestions for the future:

1. LMDE is *not* Debian:
# mintupdate
-bash: mintupdate: command not found

and there may be other subtle differences that are important

2. If you want help with usage of a specific tool *always* include the 
complete output of the commands you ran.

3. aptitude has a very powerful interactive dependency resolver that is 
useful for such situations.

Kind regards,
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Re: how to fix aptitude errors upgrading LMDE UP3 - UP4

2012-04-17 Thread Wayne Topa

On 04/16/2012 09:26 PM, Tom Roche wrote:


Wayne Topa Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:24:26 -0400

I just looked for lmde in the debian packages and it is not there


and it's not in the original post @
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01217.html
either, because LMDE is not a package


I am guessing the lmde might be a Linux Mint package.


You would be wrong. LMDE is a Mint distribution based on, and
completely compatible with, debian. Its packages are pure debian, not
ubuntu or mint.


Since when does LMDE UP4   LMDE UP3 exist in Debian.  How would someone 
using Debian know that?


I still think it would could be better answered on a LM list.

Sorry I didn't grok your problem from the OP.   :-(

WT




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Re: how to fix aptitude errors upgrading LMDE UP3 - UP4

2012-04-17 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com wrote:

 So I did

 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
 sudo apt-get -f install

 which got the packages fixed and installed, as verified by subsequent

In future, you might want to run sudo apt-get upgrade before sudo
apt-get dist-upgrade to make the upgrade more piecemeal.


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Re: how to fix aptitude errors upgrading LMDE UP3 - UP4

2012-04-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote:
 Tom Roche wrote:
  So I did
  sudo apt-get update
  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
  sudo apt-get -f install
 
  which got the packages fixed and installed, as verified by subsequent
 
 In future, you might want to run sudo apt-get upgrade before sudo
 apt-get dist-upgrade to make the upgrade more piecemeal.

+1.  Let me strongly encourage this strategy of upgrade first then
dist-upgrade second.

Bob


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how to fix aptitude errors upgrading LMDE UP3 - UP4

2012-04-16 Thread Tom Roche

(Apologies if this is not the correct place to post (is there an
apt-user or aptitude-user list?), but it's been helpful in past.)

As detailed @

http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=198t=99035

recently I successfully upgraded a box with Linux Mint Debian Edition
Update Pack 3 (with which I've been a happy ubuntu refugee) to the
recently-announced LMDE UP4. Saturday (14 Apr 2012) I tried to do this
on another box (after again doing both a full duplicity backup and a
clonezilla). mintupdate (which I launched, as before, from console
with `gksudo mintupdate `) just kept dying, silently, in many
different places. I tried again Sunday (15 Apr) night, with same
results. Eventually I gave up, and went back to aptitude, launched via
`sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade`

aptitude did not die silently! and chugged on until finished. However,
on finish it reported, at the end of a very long scroll (thank you,
gnome-terminal :-)

 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of

with regard to 35 different packages (followed by details for each one)
before ending with

 Errors were encountered while processing: # sorted by me
 brasero
 evince
 file-roller
 gconf2
 gdm3
 gnome-applets
 gnome-bluetooth
 gnome-control-center
 gnome-disk-utility
 gnome-panel
 gnome-power-manager
 gnome-session
 gnome-settings-daemon
 gnome-themes-standard
 gnome-user-share
 gvfs
 gvfs-backends
 gvfs-bin
 libgconf2-4
 libgnome2-common
 murrine-themes
 nautilus
 nautilus-actions
 nautilus-open-terminal
 nautilus-sendto
 nautilus-share
 network-manager
 network-manager-gnome
 network-manager-pptp
 network-manager-pptp-gnome
 rhythmbox
 rhythmbox-plugins
 totem
 totem-mozilla
 totem-plugins

 Current status: 29 broken [+29], 1128 updates [-112], 35600 new [-1].

Obviously I'm gonna need network-manager* and gnome* and will very
much want most of the rest. How to fix? Note that, as noted above,
I can (presumably :-) rollback to a working LMDE UP3 if required.

Your assistance is appreciated, Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com


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Re: how to fix aptitude errors upgrading LMDE UP3 - UP4

2012-04-16 Thread Wayne Topa

On 04/16/2012 02:34 PM, Tom Roche wrote:


(Apologies if this is not the correct place to post (is there an
apt-user or aptitude-user list?), but it's been helpful in past.)

As detailed @

http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=198t=99035

recently I successfully upgraded a box with Linux Mint Debian Edition
Update Pack 3 (with which I've been a happy ubuntu refugee) to the
recently-announced LMDE UP4. Saturday (14 Apr 2012) I tried to do this
on another box (after again doing both a full duplicity backup and a
clonezilla). mintupdate (which I launched, as before, from console
with `gksudo mintupdate`) just kept dying, silently, in many
different places. I tried again Sunday (15 Apr) night, with same
results. Eventually I gave up, and went back to aptitude, launched via
`sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade`

aptitude did not die silently! and chugged on until finished. However,
on finish it reported, at the end of a very long scroll (thank you,
gnome-terminal :-)


dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of


with regard to 35 different packages (followed by details for each one)
before ending with


Errors were encountered while processing: # sorted by me
brasero
evince
file-roller
gconf2
gdm3
gnome-applets
gnome-bluetooth
gnome-control-center
gnome-disk-utility
gnome-panel
gnome-power-manager
gnome-session
gnome-settings-daemon
gnome-themes-standard
gnome-user-share
gvfs
gvfs-backends
gvfs-bin
libgconf2-4
libgnome2-common
murrine-themes
nautilus
nautilus-actions
nautilus-open-terminal
nautilus-sendto
nautilus-share
network-manager
network-manager-gnome
network-manager-pptp
network-manager-pptp-gnome
rhythmbox
rhythmbox-plugins
totem
totem-mozilla
totem-plugins

Current status: 29 broken [+29], 1128 updates [-112], 35600 new [-1].


Obviously I'm gonna need network-manager* and gnome* and will very
much want most of the rest. How to fix? Note that, as noted above,
I can (presumably :-) rollback to a working LMDE UP3 if required.

Your assistance is appreciated, Tom Rochetom_ro...@pobox.com




I just looked for lmde in the debian packages and it is not there so---

I am guessing the lmde might be a Linux Mint package.  So I would, 
respectfully suggest, you try the Linux Mint users list.  Mint is based 
on debian but is not Debian.


HTH
Wayne


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Re: how to fix aptitude errors upgrading LMDE UP3 - UP4

2012-04-16 Thread Indulekha
Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com wrote:
 [...]

 `sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade`

 aptitude did not die silently! and chugged on until finished. However,
 on finish it reported, at the end of a very long scroll (thank you,
 gnome-terminal :-)

 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of

 with regard to 35 different packages (followed by details for each one)
 before ending with

 Errors were encountered while processing: # sorted by me
 brasero
 evince
 file-roller
 gconf2
 gdm3
 gnome-applets
 gnome-bluetooth
 gnome-control-center
 gnome-disk-utility
 gnome-panel
 gnome-power-manager
 gnome-session
 gnome-settings-daemon
 gnome-themes-standard
 gnome-user-share
 gvfs
 gvfs-backends
 gvfs-bin
 libgconf2-4
 libgnome2-common
 murrine-themes
 nautilus
 nautilus-actions
 nautilus-open-terminal
 nautilus-sendto
 nautilus-share
 network-manager
 network-manager-gnome
 network-manager-pptp
 network-manager-pptp-gnome
 rhythmbox
 rhythmbox-plugins
 totem
 totem-mozilla
 totem-plugins

 Current status: 29 broken [+29], 1128 updates [-112], 35600 new [-1].

 Obviously I'm gonna need network-manager* and gnome* and will very
 much want most of the rest. How to fix? Note that, as noted above,
 I can (presumably :-) rollback to a working LMDE UP3 if required.


Have you tried apt-get -f install? 
Might do the trick...

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Re: how to fix aptitude errors upgrading LMDE UP3 - UP4

2012-04-16 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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Wayne Topa linux...@gmail.com wrote:

On 04/16/2012 02:34 PM, Tom Roche wrote:

 (Apologies if this is not the correct place to post (is there an
 apt-user or aptitude-user list?), but it's been helpful in past.)

 As detailed @

 http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=198t=99035

 recently I successfully upgraded a box with Linux Mint Debian Edition
 Update Pack 3 (with which I've been a happy ubuntu refugee) to the
 recently-announced LMDE UP4. Saturday (14 Apr 2012) I tried to do
this
 on another box (after again doing both a full duplicity backup and a
 clonezilla). mintupdate (which I launched, as before, from console
 with `gksudo mintupdate`) just kept dying, silently, in many
 different places. I tried again Sunday (15 Apr) night, with same
 results. Eventually I gave up, and went back to aptitude, launched
via
 `sudo aptitude update ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade`

 aptitude did not die silently! and chugged on until finished.
However,
 on finish it reported, at the end of a very long scroll (thank you,
 gnome-terminal :-)

 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of

 with regard to 35 different packages (followed by details for each
one)
 before ending with

 Errors were encountered while processing: # sorted by me
 brasero
 evince
 file-roller
 gconf2
 gdm3
 gnome-applets
 gnome-bluetooth
 gnome-control-center
 gnome-disk-utility
 gnome-panel
 gnome-power-manager
 gnome-session
 gnome-settings-daemon
 gnome-themes-standard
 gnome-user-share
 gvfs
 gvfs-backends
 gvfs-bin
 libgconf2-4
 libgnome2-common
 murrine-themes
 nautilus
 nautilus-actions
 nautilus-open-terminal
 nautilus-sendto
 nautilus-share
 network-manager
 network-manager-gnome
 network-manager-pptp
 network-manager-pptp-gnome
 rhythmbox
 rhythmbox-plugins
 totem
 totem-mozilla
 totem-plugins

 Current status: 29 broken [+29], 1128 updates [-112], 35600 new
[-1].

 Obviously I'm gonna need network-manager* and gnome* and will very
 much want most of the rest. How to fix? Note that, as noted above,
 I can (presumably :-) rollback to a working LMDE UP3 if required.

 Your assistance is appreciated, Tom Rochetom_ro...@pobox.com



I just looked for lmde in the debian packages and it is not there so---

I am guessing the lmde might be a Linux Mint package.  So I would,
respectfully suggest, you try the Linux Mint users list.  Mint is based

on debian but is not Debian.

HTH
Wayne


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Re: how to fix aptitude errors upgrading LMDE UP3 - UP4

2012-04-16 Thread Tom Roche

Wayne Topa Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:24:26 -0400
 I just looked for lmde in the debian packages and it is not there

and it's not in the original post @
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/04/msg01217.html
either, because LMDE is not a package

 I am guessing the lmde might be a Linux Mint package.

You would be wrong. LMDE is a Mint distribution based on, and
completely compatible with, debian. Its packages are pure debian, not
ubuntu or mint.

Indulekha Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:52:34 -0500
 Have you tried apt-get -f install? 

No, and using apt-get rather than aptitude was the right idea:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal
 2.2.1. apt-get / apt-cache vs. aptitude

...

 * apt-get is most suitable for the major system upgrade between releases, etc.

So I did

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo apt-get -f install

which got the packages fixed and installed, as verified by subsequent

$ sudo apt-get update
...
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree   
 Reading state information... Done
 Calculating upgrade... Done
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

and then I was able to reboot and
$ sudo aptitude update
...
$ sudo aptitude -s full-upgrade
 No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

your assistance is appreciated, Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com


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Re: how to fix aptitude errors upgrading LMDE UP3 - UP4

2012-04-16 Thread Indulekha
Tom Roche wrote:

 Indulekha Mon, 16 Apr 2012 14:52:34 -0500
 Have you tried apt-get -f install? 

 No, and using apt-get rather than aptitude was the right idea:

 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal
 2.2.1. apt-get / apt-cache vs. aptitude

 ...

 * apt-get is most suitable for the major system upgrade between releases, 
 etc.

 So I did

 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
 sudo apt-get -f install

 which got the packages fixed and installed, as verified by subsequent

 $ sudo apt-get update
 ...
 $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree   
 Reading state information... Done
 Calculating upgrade... Done
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

 and then I was able to reboot and
 $ sudo aptitude update
 ...
 $ sudo aptitude -s full-upgrade
 No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

 your assistance is appreciated, Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com


Glad it worked! It's gotten me out of a few jams...

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