Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

2016-06-14 Thread David Christensen

On 06/14/2016 08:27 AM, Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:

...If I create a USB dongle with

# cd /tmp
# wget 
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
# cp debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso /def/sdf


Are you cutting and pasting console sessions verbatim?  /def/sdf looks 
like a typo...



As other posters have mentioned, you might have to mess with CMOS 
settings.



I've also found that not all USB ports are created equal.


So, N CMOS settings and M ports creates N * M combinations to test.


Rather than using a Live distribution or an installer image on USB 
flash, I've found that:


1.  I can install Debian onto a USB flash drive.

2.  I can place a Debian system drive image onto a USB flash drive.


David



Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

2016-06-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Jun 2016 at 17:44:53 +0100, Brian wrote:

> 5. Write a grub.cfg. Here is one of mine you can adopt:

You might prefer to adapt it if you feel you are unable to give it a
good home and nurture it.



Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

2016-06-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Jun 2016 at 08:50:28 -0400, Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:

> I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the instructions on
> 
>https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
> 
> to make a live USB from
> 
>
> http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
> 
> but apparently my machine, an older Dell Poweredge R815, won't boot from
> isohybrid. Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable live wheezy
> USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?

1. Make two partitions on the dongle. One big enough to hold GRUB's
   files and the other sufficient for the -amd64-standard.iso.

2. Format the smaller partition vfat.

3. Install GRUB to the MBR of the dongle and with its files on the
   formatted partition.

4. dd, cp or cat the -amd64-standard.iso to the second partition.

5. Write a grub.cfg. Here is one of mine you can adopt:

  menuentry "Debian Live KDE" {
  search --label --set=root "Debian Wheezy 20131014-01:18"
  linux /live/vmlinuz2 boot=live config quiet splash
  initrd /live/initrd2.img
  }

   uuid is an alternative you could use to 'label'.



Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

2016-06-14 Thread Jeffrey Mark Siskind
   > I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the
   > instructions on
   > 
   >https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
   > 
   > to make a live USB from
   > 
   >
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
   > 
   > but apparently my machine, an older Dell Poweredge R815, won't boot
   > from isohybrid. Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable
   > live wheezy USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?

   Not familiar with that model.  Will it boot from the USB
   port?  I'm assuming it will.  Seems new enough for that feature.
   So check the drive boot order and change as required.

It will boot MSDOS from a fat32 formatted USB dongle. But apparently, it won't
boot an isohybrid formatted USB dongle. It has nothing to do with drive boot
order. If I create a USB dongle with

   # cd /tmp
   # wget 
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz
   # wget 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso
   # zcat boot.img.gz >/dev/sdf
   # mount /dev/sdf /mnt
   # cp firmware-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso /mnt/.
   # umount /mnt

the R815 will detect and boot from the resulting USB dongle. If I create a USB
dongle with

   # cd /tmp
   # wget 
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
   # cp debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso /def/sdf

the R815 will not detect and not boot from the resulting USB dongle. If I do

   # cd /tmp
   # wget 
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz
   # wget 
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
   # zcat boot.img.gz >/dev/sdf
   # mount /dev/sdf /mnt
   # cp debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso /def/sdf
   # umount /mnt

will this be able to boot a live wheezy?

Jeff (http://engineering.purdue.edu/~qobi)



Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

2016-06-14 Thread Jeffrey Mark Siskind
   > I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the instructions on

   Why wheezy ... it's old.

I have been running wheezy for about 5 years without any problem. The machine
has two partitions / and /aux. I attempted a fresh install of jessie in /.
But the install failed and the machine won't boot. It appears that the kernel
in jessie tickles something in the hardware that wasn't tickled by wheezy. I
will likely upgrade the firmware. (Dell Poweredge machines have a lot of
distinct firmware components besides the BIOS.) But before I do, I want to get
the data off the /aux partition. So I want to boot something that I know works.

   >https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
   > 
   > to make a live USB from
   > 
   >
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso

   There are many ways to make a bootable HDD image if this can be booted.

   By using aufs or newer overlayfs, you can choose to make OS persistent
   while your running system writing on RAM(tmpfs).

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallOnSDcardOrUsbStick
I have not tested but this may give you hint.

   I also use kvm to install system on USB connected HDD from my working
   Debian system.

   many ways ...

I don't need it to be persistent. I just need to get enough of a root shell to
run tar|ssh to get the data off of /aux. /aux is /dev/md1 which is RAID5
across /dev/sd[a-f]2. So I need enough to be able to mount that read-only.
Then when that is done I will upgrade the firmware and reattempt a jessie
install.

So I'd appreciate help getting the easiest way to get a root shell with tar,
ssh, and mdadm.

The issue is that the machine is too old to boot isohybrid from USB. It needs
to boot msdos from fat32 on USB. See other emails in this thread.

Jeff (http://engineering.purdue.edu/~qobi)



Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

2016-06-14 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 08:50:28AM -0400, Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
> I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the instructions on

Why wheezy ... it's old.

>https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
> 
> to make a live USB from
> 
>
> http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso

There are many ways to make a bootable HDD image if this can be booted.

By using aufs or newer overlayfs, you can choose to make OS persistent
while your running system writing on RAM(tmpfs).

 https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallOnSDcardOrUsbStick
 I have not tested but this may give you hint.

I also use kvm to install system on USB connected HDD from my working
Debian system.

many ways ...



Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

2016-06-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 14 June 2016 13:50:28 Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
> Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable live wheezy
> USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?

From where are you going to get a non-hybrid Wheezy .iso?

I have come across computers that won't boot from USB for various reasons, but 
never one that will boot from USB, but won't boot from hybrid.

Lisi



Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

2016-06-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 14 June 2016 13:50:28 Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
> I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the instructions on
>
>https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
>
> to make a live USB from
>
>   
> http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybr
>id/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
>
> but apparently my machine, an older Dell Poweredge R815, won't boot from
> isohybrid. Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable live
> wheezy USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff (http://engineering.purdue.edu/~qobi)

Incidentally, why Wheezy?  Why install Wheezy at this juncture?  



Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

2016-06-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:

> I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the
> instructions on
> 
>https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
> 
> to make a live USB from
> 
>
> http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
> 
> but apparently my machine, an older Dell Poweredge R815, won't boot
> from isohybrid. Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable
> live wheezy USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?

Not familiar with that model.  Will it boot from the USB
port?  I'm assuming it will.  Seems new enough for that feature.
So check the drive boot order and change as required.

B  



how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

2016-06-14 Thread Jeffrey Mark Siskind
I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the instructions on

   https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb

to make a live USB from

   
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso

but apparently my machine, an older Dell Poweredge R815, won't boot from
isohybrid. Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable live wheezy
USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?

Thanks,
Jeff (http://engineering.purdue.edu/~qobi)