Re: File transfer between Debian Wheezy Xfce and iPad, iPod, iPhone

2015-01-07 Thread John L. Cunningham
On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 11:26:50AM -0800, David Christensen wrote:
> debian-user:
> 
> I would like to transfer files between Debian Wheezy Xfce computers
> (i386 and amd64) and iOS devices (iPod, iPad, iPhone).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> When I touch "Trust", there is activity in the icons in the
> upper-right corner of the iPad display, and then the pop-up dialog
> appears again; ad infinitum.
> 
> 
> Any suggestions?

What kind of files are you trying to transfer?  I was able to sync the photos 
on my wife's iphone via Shotwell despite the "Trust" pop up on the phone.  Just 
don't hit "Trust" during the sync or it will interrupt and possibly cause 
problems.  I wasn't able to browse the photos via Nautilus (I'm using Gnome) 
but I also didn't want to spend a lot of time on this.

--John


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Re: File transfer between Debian Wheezy Xfce and iPad, iPod, iPhone

2015-01-07 Thread Stephen Allen
On Fri, Jan 02, 2015 at 11:26:50AM -0800, David Christensen wrote:
> debian-user:
> 
> I would like to transfer files between Debian Wheezy Xfce computers (i386
> and amd64) and iOS devices (iPod, iPad, iPhone).
> 
> 
> On Debian, I have installed:
> 
> libimobiledevice-utils
>
I haven't had any success using iDevices with Linux unless the iDevice was 
jailbreak'ed. 


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File transfer between Debian Wheezy Xfce and iPad, iPod, iPhone

2015-01-02 Thread David Christensen

debian-user:

I would like to transfer files between Debian Wheezy Xfce computers 
(i386 and amd64) and iOS devices (iPod, iPad, iPhone).



On Debian, I have installed:

libimobiledevice-utils


When I connect the charging cable between an iPad Mini (Model A1489) and 
a USB 2.0 port on a Debian machine, dmesg indicates (SerialNumber redacted):


$ dmesg | tail -n 6
[  152.171793] usb 4-1.2: new high-speed USB device number 15 using 
ehci_hcd
[  152.266301] usb 4-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, 
idProduct=12ab
[  152.266306] usb 4-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=3

[  152.266309] usb 4-1.2: Product: iPad
[  152.266311] usb 4-1.2: Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
[  152.266313] usb 4-1.2: SerialNumber: 




On the iPad, a pop-up dialog appears:

Trust This Computer?
   Your settings and data will be
accessible from this computer when
connected.
Trust  Don't Trust


When I touch "Trust", there is activity in the icons in the upper-right 
corner of the iPad display, and then the pop-up dialog appears again; ad 
infinitum.



Any suggestions?


TIA,

David


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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30 November 2014 at 09:37, Marc Shapiro  wrote:
> On 11/26/2014 01:05 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> 'Now' I regret not keeping the notes when I setup an iPhone rule for
>> someone last year! :/
>> This time I will.
>
> I still get no device under /dev when I plug in the iPod, but ifuse does
> seem to be successfully mounting the device.

'Should' be a /media/i$Something directory created.

All I know about ifuse is what I've read in the man page:-
http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ifuse&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+7.0+wheezy&format=html&locale=en

Is their an info page for ifuse?
What does "man -k ifuse" give?

The --debug option may provide more useful information

>  I can traverse the fs and ls
> the files just fine.  Unfortunately, rhythmbox and gtkpod now see the
> device, but they both insist that it is uninitialized and want to initialize
> it.  Since it *has* been initialized and used for several months, this would
> be a *Bad Thing*.

Unfortunately, that's only to be expected from Apple...

> From what I am seeing when I google the error it seems
> that the problem lies with the fact that Apple keeps changing the database
> format to make sure that you have to use iTunes and that the
> libimobiledevice2 that is in Wheezy is still using a much older version of
> the database.

Yes - one work-around (a bit like trimming your toes so you can fit
into cool shoes too small for your feet) is to use a udev rule to
launch a VirtualBox Windoof machine. The VM can be launched in
seamless mode and iTunes can be automagically be started. That will
require waiting a few minutes for iTunes to become available, but with
USB pass-though, it will allow you to access the full functionality of
your Apple device from your Debian device.

>  I'm not sure if libimobiledevice4 (in Jessie and Sid) is
> current enough, or if I need to wait for libimobiledevice5, which is in
> Experimental).  There is nothing in Wheezy-Backports for the library.

You 'might' be able to simply install the
Testing/Unstable/Experimental version - backports are not always
necessary to have the latest version of a Debian package. Looking at
the dependencies and their minimum versions will tell you.

>
> Am I interpreting this correctly, or am I way off base?

Seems correct to me. Thank you for the information.

>
> Marc
>
>

Kind regards


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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-29 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/26/2014 01:05 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

'Now' I regret not keeping the notes when I setup an iPhone rule for
someone last year! :/
This time I will.
I still get no device under /dev when I plug in the iPod, but ifuse does 
seem to be successfully mounting the device.  I can traverse the fs and 
ls the files just fine.  Unfortunately, rhythmbox and gtkpod now see the 
device, but they both insist that it is uninitialized and want to 
initialize it.  Since it *has* been initialized and used for several 
months, this would be a *Bad Thing*.  From what I am seeing when I 
google the error it seems that the problem lies with the fact that Apple 
keeps changing the database format to make sure that you have to use 
iTunes and that the libimobiledevice2 that is in Wheezy is still using a 
much older version of the database.  I'm not sure if libimobiledevice4 
(in Jessie and Sid) is current enough, or if I need to wait for 
libimobiledevice5, which is in Experimental).  There is nothing in 
Wheezy-Backports for the library.


Am I interpreting this correctly, or am I way off base?

Marc


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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-26 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/26/2014 01:05 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

'Now' I regret not keeping the notes when I setup an iPhone rule for
someone last year! :/
This time I will.


On 26/11/14 14:04, Marc Shapiro wrote:

On 11/24/2014 02:39 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

Thanks for the replies.

On 24/11/14 05:12, Marc Shapiro wrote:

On 11/23/2014 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside
working all day (almost beer o'clock)

On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc Shapiro wrote:

On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote:

My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like
to be
able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.




I will try the  "udevadm monitor --property" command once I have the
device available again.

Marc



This is the result of plugging the device in while running "udevadm
monitor --property", waiting a minute or so, and then unplugging the
device:

Did you miss something? That appears to be just the tail end of the
output?  Make sure you have udevadm running *before* you plug the device
in. My apologies if I didn't make that clear earlier.



UDEV  [275538.578940] remove

Says that udevadmn detect a device being removed... I don't understand
how it can detect a removal, without previously having detected an addition.
And addition (plugging the device in) is a block that begins with
([nn:nn] is time of event) this:-
UDEV  [nn:nn] add


/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:4.2 (usb)
ACTION=remove
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:4.2
DEVTYPE=usb_interface
INTERFACE=255/253/1
MODALIAS=usb:v05ACp12AAd0510dc00dsc00dp00icFFiscFDip01in02
PRODUCT=5ac/12aa/510
SEQNUM=1785
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=7
USEC_INITIALIZED=275538570017

UDEV  [275538.584890] remove
/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4 (usb)
ACTION=remove
BUSNUM=004
COLORD_DEVICE=1
COLORD_KIND=camera
DEVNAME=/dev/bus/usb/004/019

there's the device


DEVNUM=019
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4
DEVTYPE=usb_device
GPHOTO2_DRIVER=PTP

looks like gphoto2 (a GNOME app?) released it, note that COLORD_KIND
'had' recognised the device as a camera.

Try plugging the device back in and opening gPhoto (assuming go do
indeed have it installed.


ID_BUS=usb
ID_GPHOTO2=1
ID_MODEL=iPod
ID_MODEL_ENC=iPod
ID_MODEL_ID=12aa
ID_REVISION=0510
ID_SERIAL=Apple_Inc._iPod_ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
ID_SERIAL_SHORT=ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
ID_USB_INTERFACES=:060101:010100:010200:03:fffe02:fffd01:
ID_VENDOR=Apple_Inc.
ID_VENDOR_ENC=Apple\x20Inc.
ID_VENDOR_ID=05ac
MAJOR=189
MINOR=402
PRODUCT=5ac/12aa/510
SEQNUM=1786
SUBSYSTEM=usb

That may be the fail in the speculative udev rule I supplied in an
earlier post. But I'll wait until I hear about gPhoto and look at the
udevadm monitor results showing the device being added before changing
that rule (I'm still concerned about battling with GNOME's vfs).


TAGS=:udev-acl:
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=7
USBMUX_SUPPORTED=1
USEC_INITIALIZED=275471311002


It's mostly Greek to me, but if it gives you any hints I will be glad to
hear it.

Please see if you can grab the start of udevadm output.

As a "user":-
udevadm monitor --udev > ~/monitor_output_for_scott

after a minute remove the device, use Ctrl+C to stop udevadm, then
attach ~/monitor_output_for_scott to your reply (if it's not empty).


Kind regards



I have attached output files from each of the commands you requested:

udevadm monitor --property

and

udevadm monitor --udev

both were done with sudo as udevadm does not appear to be available as a 
normal user.


Marc
monitor will print the received events for:
UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing
KERNEL - the kernel uevent

KERNEL[357226.844679] add  /devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4 
(usb)
ACTION=add
BUSNUM=004
DEVNAME=bus/usb/004/021
DEVNUM=021
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4
DEVTYPE=usb_device
MAJOR=189
MINOR=404
PRODUCT=5ac/12aa/510
SEQNUM=1797
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=3

KERNEL[357226.845369] add  
/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:1.0 (usb)
ACTION=add
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:1.0
DEVTYPE=usb_interface
INTERFACE=6/1/1
MODALIAS=usb:v05ACp12AAd0510dc00dsc00dp00ic06isc01ip01in00
PRODUCT=5ac/12aa/510
SEQNUM=1798
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=3

KERNEL[357226.852021] remove   
/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:1.0 (usb)
ACTION=remove
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:1.0
DEVTYPE=usb_interface
INTERFACE=6/1/1
MODALIAS=usb:v05ACp12AAd0510dc00dsc00dp00ic06isc01ip01in00
PRODUCT=5ac/12aa/510
SEQNUM=1799
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=3

KERNEL[357226.853833] add  
/devices/pci:00/:00:

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
'Now' I regret not keeping the notes when I setup an iPhone rule for
someone last year! :/
This time I will.


On 26/11/14 14:04, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> On 11/24/2014 02:39 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> Thanks for the replies.
>>
>> On 24/11/14 05:12, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2014 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>>> Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside
>>>> working all day (almost beer o'clock)
>>>>
>>>> On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>>>> On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>>>>>> My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like
>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>> able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.



>>> I will try the  "udevadm monitor --property" command once I have the
>>> device available again.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>
> This is the result of plugging the device in while running "udevadm
> monitor --property", waiting a minute or so, and then unplugging the
> device:

Did you miss something? That appears to be just the tail end of the
output?  Make sure you have udevadm running *before* you plug the device
in. My apologies if I didn't make that clear earlier.

> 
> 
> UDEV  [275538.578940] remove

Says that udevadmn detect a device being removed... I don't understand
how it can detect a removal, without previously having detected an addition.
And addition (plugging the device in) is a block that begins with
([nn:nn] is time of event) this:-
UDEV  [nn:nn] add

> /devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:4.2 (usb)
> ACTION=remove
> DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:4.2
> DEVTYPE=usb_interface
> INTERFACE=255/253/1
> MODALIAS=usb:v05ACp12AAd0510dc00dsc00dp00icFFiscFDip01in02
> PRODUCT=5ac/12aa/510
> SEQNUM=1785
> SUBSYSTEM=usb
> TYPE=0/0/0
> UDEV_LOG=7
> USEC_INITIALIZED=275538570017
> 
> UDEV  [275538.584890] remove
> /devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4 (usb)
> ACTION=remove
> BUSNUM=004
> COLORD_DEVICE=1
> COLORD_KIND=camera
> DEVNAME=/dev/bus/usb/004/019

there's the device

> DEVNUM=019
> DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4
> DEVTYPE=usb_device
> GPHOTO2_DRIVER=PTP

looks like gphoto2 (a GNOME app?) released it, note that COLORD_KIND
'had' recognised the device as a camera.

Try plugging the device back in and opening gPhoto (assuming go do
indeed have it installed.

> ID_BUS=usb
> ID_GPHOTO2=1
> ID_MODEL=iPod
> ID_MODEL_ENC=iPod
> ID_MODEL_ID=12aa
> ID_REVISION=0510
> ID_SERIAL=Apple_Inc._iPod_ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
> ID_SERIAL_SHORT=ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
> ID_USB_INTERFACES=:060101:010100:010200:03:fffe02:fffd01:
> ID_VENDOR=Apple_Inc.
> ID_VENDOR_ENC=Apple\x20Inc.
> ID_VENDOR_ID=05ac
> MAJOR=189
> MINOR=402
> PRODUCT=5ac/12aa/510
> SEQNUM=1786
> SUBSYSTEM=usb

That may be the fail in the speculative udev rule I supplied in an
earlier post. But I'll wait until I hear about gPhoto and look at the
udevadm monitor results showing the device being added before changing
that rule (I'm still concerned about battling with GNOME's vfs).

> TAGS=:udev-acl:
> TYPE=0/0/0
> UDEV_LOG=7
> USBMUX_SUPPORTED=1
> USEC_INITIALIZED=275471311002
> 
> 
> It's mostly Greek to me, but if it gives you any hints I will be glad to
> hear it.

Please see if you can grab the start of udevadm output.

As a "user":-
udevadm monitor --udev > ~/monitor_output_for_scott

after a minute remove the device, use Ctrl+C to stop udevadm, then
attach ~/monitor_output_for_scott to your reply (if it's not empty).


Kind regards


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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-25 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/24/2014 02:39 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

Thanks for the replies.

On 24/11/14 05:12, Marc Shapiro wrote:

On 11/23/2014 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside
working all day (almost beer o'clock)

On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc Shapiro wrote:

On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote:

My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be
able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.




You mention two devices - in which case I'd:-
;suggest you turn on udev debugging (as root "udevadm control
--log-priority=debug")

Sorry - did you apply the above, and if so - what do the logs show?
(please post any relevant information for all to reference.).

Yes, I did.  What log should I be looking in and what should I be
looking for?

syslog.

e.g. as root:-
tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog | less


I apologize for not making it clear that I had tried all of these
suggestions.


The first thing that post says to do is to get the device node. That is
my problem.  I do not have a device node for the iPod (see the output
from dmesg and my comments, above).

It's possible that a fusefs has "grabbed" the device... I have little
experience with Apple devices so this is a learning curve for me to. I'm
guessing you run GNOME - something else I have (very) little experience
with.

I am using Mate.  I do not like the Gnome 3 paradigm.

I no nothing of GNOME - but I "believe" Mate is just the visual part of
the DE (i.e. the vfs is still GNOME3)


Please try unplugging the device, them, while running as root, "udevadm
monitor --property" and posting the results from plugging the Apple
device back in (if any).




I will try the  "udevadm monitor --property" command once I have the
device available again.

Marc




This is the result of plugging the device in while running "udevadm 
monitor --property", waiting a minute or so, and then unplugging the device:



UDEV  [275538.578940] remove 
/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:4.2 (usb)

ACTION=remove
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4/4-4.4:4.2
DEVTYPE=usb_interface
INTERFACE=255/253/1
MODALIAS=usb:v05ACp12AAd0510dc00dsc00dp00icFFiscFDip01in02
PRODUCT=5ac/12aa/510
SEQNUM=1785
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=7
USEC_INITIALIZED=275538570017

UDEV  [275538.584890] remove 
/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4 (usb)

ACTION=remove
BUSNUM=004
COLORD_DEVICE=1
COLORD_KIND=camera
DEVNAME=/dev/bus/usb/004/019
DEVNUM=019
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4
DEVTYPE=usb_device
GPHOTO2_DRIVER=PTP
ID_BUS=usb
ID_GPHOTO2=1
ID_MODEL=iPod
ID_MODEL_ENC=iPod
ID_MODEL_ID=12aa
ID_REVISION=0510
ID_SERIAL=Apple_Inc._iPod_ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
ID_SERIAL_SHORT=ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
ID_USB_INTERFACES=:060101:010100:010200:03:fffe02:fffd01:
ID_VENDOR=Apple_Inc.
ID_VENDOR_ENC=Apple\x20Inc.
ID_VENDOR_ID=05ac
MAJOR=189
MINOR=402
PRODUCT=5ac/12aa/510
SEQNUM=1786
SUBSYSTEM=usb
TAGS=:udev-acl:
TYPE=0/0/0
UDEV_LOG=7
USBMUX_SUPPORTED=1
USEC_INITIALIZED=275471311002


It's mostly Greek to me, but if it gives you any hints I will be glad to 
hear it.


Marc



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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
Thanks for the replies.

On 24/11/14 05:12, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> On 11/23/2014 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside
>> working all day (almost beer o'clock)
>>
>> On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>> On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>>> On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>>>> My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be
>>>>> able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.



>>>> You mention two devices - in which case I'd:-
>>>> ;suggest you turn on udev debugging (as root "udevadm control
>>>> --log-priority=debug")
>> Sorry - did you apply the above, and if so - what do the logs show?
>> (please post any relevant information for all to reference.).
> 
> Yes, I did.  What log should I be looking in and what should I be
> looking for?

syslog.

e.g. as root:-
tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog | less

> 
> I apologize for not making it clear that I had tried all of these
> suggestions.
> 
>>> The first thing that post says to do is to get the device node. That is
>>> my problem.  I do not have a device node for the iPod (see the output
>>> from dmesg and my comments, above).
>> It's possible that a fusefs has "grabbed" the device... I have little
>> experience with Apple devices so this is a learning curve for me to. I'm
>> guessing you run GNOME - something else I have (very) little experience
>> with.
> 
> I am using Mate.  I do not like the Gnome 3 paradigm.

I no nothing of GNOME - but I "believe" Mate is just the visual part of
the DE (i.e. the vfs is still GNOME3)

> 
>>
>> Please try unplugging the device, them, while running as root, "udevadm
>> monitor --property" and posting the results from plugging the Apple
>> device back in (if any).
>>
> 

> 
> I will try the  "udevadm monitor --property" command once I have the
> device available again.
> 
> Marc
> 
> 


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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/11/14 11:36, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> ERROR: Pairing with device ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
> failed with unhandled error code -3

That's a plist error.
What is the output of "idevicepair -d pair" (you may need to paste the
output to paste.debian.net and provide a link to it in your reply).


Kind regards


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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/23/2014 01:04 PM, Curt wrote:

On 2014-11-23, Marc Shapiro  wrote:

What does it say when you run "ideviceinfo" in a terminal after plugging
in your device (might tell us what is missing from the picture)?


GnuTLS error: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.



Well, that error is worth a google search.

I'm seeing:

  if you receive this error message when trying to mount with Ifuse

  GNUTLS ERROR: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received

  You need to pair the phone with your pc to do this enter this command

  idevicepair unpair

  Your Iphone or other Idevice will automatically try to re-pair you can
  then unplug it and plug it back in and it should mount correctly.

Worth a try. I'm off to bed.  Good luck.


Still no luck.  I had already tried unpairing and then pairing the 
device many times.  When I try to unpair the device I may get a response 
that says it has been unpaired, suggesting that it had been paired, but 
that is not the case.  If I then use idevicepair pair I get:


~/bin$ idevicepair pair
ERROR: Pairing with device ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9 
failed with unhandled error code -3




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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-23, Marc Shapiro  wrote:
>>>
>> What does it say when you run "ideviceinfo" in a terminal after plugging
>> in your device (might tell us what is missing from the picture)?
>>
> GnuTLS error: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.
>
>

Well, that error is worth a google search.

I'm seeing:

 if you receive this error message when trying to mount with Ifuse

 GNUTLS ERROR: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received

 You need to pair the phone with your pc to do this enter this command

 idevicepair unpair

 Your Iphone or other Idevice will automatically try to re-pair you can
 then unplug it and plug it back in and it should mount correctly.

Worth a try. I'm off to bed.  Good luck.


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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/23/2014 11:20 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2014-11-23, Marc Shapiro  wrote:

Yes.  I have gvfs 1.12.3-4 installed, as well as gvfs-fuse 1.12.3-4 and
fuse 2.9.0-2+deb7u1.  Does this help, or hurt?  Those were installed to
access my phone.  Scott has suggested that the iPod might be getting
grabbed by a fusefs.  Does this make sense, and, if so, what can I do
about it?


What does it say when you run "ideviceinfo" in a terminal after plugging
in your device (might tell us what is missing from the picture)?



GnuTLS error: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.


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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-23, Marc Shapiro  wrote:
>>
> Yes.  I have gvfs 1.12.3-4 installed, as well as gvfs-fuse 1.12.3-4 and 
> fuse 2.9.0-2+deb7u1.  Does this help, or hurt?  Those were installed to 
> access my phone.  Scott has suggested that the iPod might be getting 
> grabbed by a fusefs.  Does this make sense, and, if so, what can I do 
> about it?
>

What does it say when you run "ideviceinfo" in a terminal after plugging
in your device (might tell us what is missing from the picture)?


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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/23/2014 09:47 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2014-11-22, Marc Shapiro  wrote:


My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be
able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.  My wife has an
iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the
linux box, as well.  I have googled.  I have upgraded to the latest
kernel from Backports (3.16).  I have installed libimobiledevice-utils.
I have done everything I can think of.


You have GVFS >= 1.5.1 installed?


Yes.  I have gvfs 1.12.3-4 installed, as well as gvfs-fuse 1.12.3-4 and 
fuse 2.9.0-2+deb7u1.  Does this help, or hurt?  Those were installed to 
access my phone.  Scott has suggested that the iPod might be getting 
grabbed by a fusefs.  Does this make sense, and, if so, what can I do 
about it?



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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/23/2014 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside
working all day (almost beer o'clock)

On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc Shapiro wrote:

On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote:

My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be
able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.



BUS=="scsi", ATTRS{idVendor}=="05ac", ATTRS{idProduct}=="12aa",
ATTRS{serial}=="ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9",
NAME{all_partitions}="ipod", GROUP="plugdev"

Should be "BUS=="usb"
Also, MODE="0660"

Note that you:-
;only need to supply enough rules to match the device (minimum of 2 from
memory) I'd suggest you use BUS and ATTRS{serial}.
;you haven't mentioned what you want to "do" with the device i.e. mount
it somewhere - or "who" should do that. Please let me know what you want
to do (I don't know anything about gtkpod requirements)


Example only - this will work - but should be modified to suit your
requirement (please read further down):-
ATTRS{serial}=="ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9",
ATTRS{manufacturer}=="Apple Inc.", ATTRS{product}=="iPod",
KERNEL=="sd?1", SYMLINK+="ipod", GROUP="plugdev", MODE="0660"

Did you try the above? If so, what results?

Apologies - I'm rushed today and don't have time to check my notes. Try:-
udevadm control --reload-rules

Did you try this after applying the example rule three paragraphs up?


Yes.  I put in the rule above and then ran the above command to reload 
the rule.  Still no device node.






You mention two devices - in which case I'd:-
;suggest you turn on udev debugging (as root "udevadm control
--log-priority=debug")

Sorry - did you apply the above, and if so - what do the logs show?
(please post any relevant information for all to reference.).


Yes, I did.  What log should I be looking in and what should I be 
looking for?


I apologize for not making it clear that I had tried all of these 
suggestions.



The first thing that post says to do is to get the device node. That is
my problem.  I do not have a device node for the iPod (see the output
from dmesg and my comments, above).

It's possible that a fusefs has "grabbed" the device... I have little
experience with Apple devices so this is a learning curve for me to. I'm
guessing you run GNOME - something else I have (very) little experience
with.


I am using Mate.  I do not like the Gnome 3 paradigm.



Please try unplugging the device, them, while running as root, "udevadm
monitor --property" and posting the results from plugging the Apple
device back in (if any).



My daughter has the iPod with her at the moment, so it will be this 
evening before I can test anything that requires having the device on hand.





I tried the grep on
/var/log/messages, as the post suggested, but it did not provide a
device node.  It gave pretty much the same as the dmesg output that I
posted above:

Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.557084] usb 4-4.4: USB
disconnect, device number 8
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.789452] usb 4-4.4: new high-speed
USB device number 9 using ehci-pci
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885203] usb 4-4.4: New USB device
found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=12aa
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885213] usb 4-4.4: New USB device
strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885218] usb 4-4.4: Product: iPod
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885222] usb 4-4.4: Manufacturer:
Apple Inc.
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885226] usb 4-4.4: SerialNumber:
ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote mtp-probe: checking bus 4, device 9:
"/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4"
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote mtp-probe: bus: 4, device: 9 was not an MTP device

Thanks. (do test the rule I posted - it 'should' work based on that
handy dmesg snip).


It did not continue with any of the other lines such as you show and
most specifically, does not provide a device node.

OK. Again, thanks for the useful information (your efforts are much
appreciated as I don't have the devices to analyse).


I had already looked
in /dev/disk/by-path, but there is nothing there.  If I had a device
node then I would not have posted the question, since I would have been
able to mount the device and use gtkpod.  My problem is the *lack* of a
device node.


Let's see what the use of the rule I posted, the logs, and the output of
"udevadm monitor --property" show. What you desire *is* possible, just
difficult as I don't have the device, and your system, on hand to test.
Your patience is greatly appreciated.


As i

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-22, Marc Shapiro  wrote:

> My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be 
> able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.  My wife has an 
> iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the 
> linux box, as well.  I have googled.  I have upgraded to the latest 
> kernel from Backports (3.16).  I have installed libimobiledevice-utils.  
> I have done everything I can think of.
>

You have GVFS >= 1.5.1 installed?


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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:50:43 -0800
Marc Shapiro  wrote:

Hello Marc,

>My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be 
>able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.  My wife has an 

See the following;

https://wiki.debian.org/iPhone#endConfigTwo

I know that says iphone, but it applies to ipods, too.

Good luck:  You'll need it.

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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-23 Thread Scott Ferguson
Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside
working all day (almost beer o'clock)

On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>> My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be
>>> able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.

>>>
>>> BUS=="scsi", ATTRS{idVendor}=="05ac", ATTRS{idProduct}=="12aa",
>>> ATTRS{serial}=="ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9",
>>> NAME{all_partitions}="ipod", GROUP="plugdev"
>>
>> Should be "BUS=="usb"
>> Also, MODE="0660"
>>
>> Note that you:-
>> ;only need to supply enough rules to match the device (minimum of 2 from
>> memory) I'd suggest you use BUS and ATTRS{serial}.
>> ;you haven't mentioned what you want to "do" with the device i.e. mount
>> it somewhere - or "who" should do that. Please let me know what you want
>> to do (I don't know anything about gtkpod requirements)
>>
>>
>> Example only - this will work - but should be modified to suit your
>> requirement (please read further down):-
>> ATTRS{serial}=="ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9",
>> ATTRS{manufacturer}=="Apple Inc.", ATTRS{product}=="iPod",
>> KERNEL=="sd?1", SYMLINK+="ipod", GROUP="plugdev", MODE="0660"

Did you try the above? If so, what results?

>>
>>> I then tried connecting the device again.  Still nothing.  I rebooted
>>> with the device attached.  Nothing.
>> Apologies - I'm rushed today and don't have time to check my notes. Try:-
>> udevadm control --reload-rules

Did you try this after applying the example rule three paragraphs up?


>>
>> You mention two devices - in which case I'd:-
>> ;suggest you turn on udev debugging (as root "udevadm control
>> --log-priority=debug")

Sorry - did you apply the above, and if so - what do the logs show?
(please post any relevant information for all to reference.).

> For now, I'm just trying to get my daughter's iPod connected.  My wife
> says that she is only interested in getting photos and video off and I
> should be able to do that with shotwell.  Shotwell works with unmounted
> devices and detects and accesses my daughter's iPod just fine, so will
> probably work with my wife's iPad Mini, as well.
>> ;*post* the output of "udevadm info"[*1] for both IPod devices) to
>> paste.debian.net and include a link in your reply.
>>
>> [*1] see the Ref below for an expansion on what I mean by that.

> The first thing that post says to do is to get the device node. That is
> my problem.  I do not have a device node for the iPod (see the output
> from dmesg and my comments, above).  

It's possible that a fusefs has "grabbed" the device... I have little
experience with Apple devices so this is a learning curve for me to. I'm
guessing you run GNOME - something else I have (very) little experience
with.

Please try unplugging the device, them, while running as root, "udevadm
monitor --property" and posting the results from plugging the Apple
device back in (if any).



> I tried the grep on
> /var/log/messages, as the post suggested, but it did not provide a
> device node.  It gave pretty much the same as the dmesg output that I
> posted above:
> 
> Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.557084] usb 4-4.4: USB
> disconnect, device number 8
> Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.789452] usb 4-4.4: new high-speed
> USB device number 9 using ehci-pci
> Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885203] usb 4-4.4: New USB device
> found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=12aa
> Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885213] usb 4-4.4: New USB device
> strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
> Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885218] usb 4-4.4: Product: iPod
> Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885222] usb 4-4.4: Manufacturer:
> Apple Inc.
> Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885226] usb 4-4.4: SerialNumber:
> ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
> Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote mtp-probe: checking bus 4, device 9:
> "/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4"
> Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote mtp-probe: bus: 4, device: 9 was not an MTP device

Thanks. (do test the rule I posted - it 'should' work based on that
handy dmesg snip).

> 
> It did not continue with any of the other lines such as you show and
> most specifically, does not provide a device node.  

OK. Again, tha

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-22 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote:

My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be
able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.  My wife has an
iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the
linux box, as well.  I have googled.  I have upgraded to the latest
kernel from Backports (3.16).  I have installed libimobiledevice-utils.
I have done everything I can think of.

When I plug the device in I get the following in dmesg:

[  127.569680] usb 4-4.4: new high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci
[  127.665562] usb 4-4.4: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac,
idProduct=12aa
[  127.666054] usb 4-4.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=3
[  127.666538] usb 4-4.4: Product: iPod
[  127.667021] usb 4-4.4: Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
[  127.667517] usb 4-4.4: SerialNumber:
ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9

You will note that there is no mention of a mountable device node. I
have added a file, '50-custom.rules' in /etc/udev/rules.d that contains
the line:

BUS=="scsi", ATTRS{idVendor}=="05ac", ATTRS{idProduct}=="12aa",
ATTRS{serial}=="ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9",
NAME{all_partitions}="ipod", GROUP="plugdev"


Should be "BUS=="usb"
Also, MODE="0660"

Note that you:-
;only need to supply enough rules to match the device (minimum of 2 from
memory) I'd suggest you use BUS and ATTRS{serial}.
;you haven't mentioned what you want to "do" with the device i.e. mount
it somewhere - or "who" should do that. Please let me know what you want
to do (I don't know anything about gtkpod requirements)


Example only - this will work - but should be modified to suit your
requirement (please read further down):-
ATTRS{serial}=="ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9",
ATTRS{manufacturer}=="Apple Inc.", ATTRS{product}=="iPod",
KERNEL=="sd?1", SYMLINK+="ipod", GROUP="plugdev", MODE="0660"


I then tried connecting the device again.  Still nothing.  I rebooted
with the device attached.  Nothing.

Apologies - I'm rushed today and don't have time to check my notes. Try:-
udevadm control --reload-rules


What am I doing wrong?

Not supplying dense walls of text describing your circumstances? ;)

You mention two devices - in which case I'd:-
;suggest you turn on udev debugging (as root "udevadm control
--log-priority=debug")
For now, I'm just trying to get my daughter's iPod connected.  My wife 
says that she is only interested in getting photos and video off and I 
should be able to do that with shotwell.  Shotwell works with unmounted 
devices and detects and accesses my daughter's iPod just fine, so will 
probably work with my wife's iPad Mini, as well.

;*post* the output of "udevadm info"[*1] for both IPod devices) to
paste.debian.net and include a link in your reply.

[*1] see the Ref below for an expansion on what I mean by that.
The first thing that post says to do is to get the device node. That is 
my problem.  I do not have a device node for the iPod (see the output 
from dmesg and my comments, above).  I tried the grep on 
/var/log/messages, as the post suggested, but it did not provide a 
device node.  It gave pretty much the same as the dmesg output that I 
posted above:


Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.557084] usb 4-4.4: USB 
disconnect, device number 8
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.789452] usb 4-4.4: new high-speed 
USB device number 9 using ehci-pci
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885203] usb 4-4.4: New USB device 
found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=12aa
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885213] usb 4-4.4: New USB device 
strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3

Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885218] usb 4-4.4: Product: iPod
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885222] usb 4-4.4: Manufacturer: 
Apple Inc.
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote kernel: [11593.885226] usb 4-4.4: SerialNumber: 
ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote mtp-probe: checking bus 4, device 9: 
"/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:16.2/usb4/4-4/4-4.4"

Nov 22 17:39:18 quixote mtp-probe: bus: 4, device: 9 was not an MTP device

It did not continue with any of the other lines such as you show and 
most specifically, does not provide a device node.  I had already looked 
in /dev/disk/by-path, but there is nothing there.  If I had a device 
node then I would not have posted the question, since I would have been 
able to mount the device and use gtkpod.  My problem is the *lack* of a 
device node.



Ref:- (a guide I've previously posted to this list)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/12/msg01117.html




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Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-22 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 23/11/14 09:50, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be
> able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.  My wife has an
> iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the
> linux box, as well.  I have googled.  I have upgraded to the latest
> kernel from Backports (3.16).  I have installed libimobiledevice-utils. 
> I have done everything I can think of.
> 
> When I plug the device in I get the following in dmesg:
> 
> [  127.569680] usb 4-4.4: new high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci
> [  127.665562] usb 4-4.4: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac,
> idProduct=12aa
> [  127.666054] usb 4-4.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
> SerialNumber=3
> [  127.666538] usb 4-4.4: Product: iPod
> [  127.667021] usb 4-4.4: Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
> [  127.667517] usb 4-4.4: SerialNumber:
> ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9
> 
> You will note that there is no mention of a mountable device node. I
> have added a file, '50-custom.rules' in /etc/udev/rules.d that contains
> the line:
> 
> BUS=="scsi", ATTRS{idVendor}=="05ac", ATTRS{idProduct}=="12aa",
> ATTRS{serial}=="ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9",
> NAME{all_partitions}="ipod", GROUP="plugdev"


Should be "BUS=="usb"
Also, MODE="0660"

Note that you:-
;only need to supply enough rules to match the device (minimum of 2 from
memory) I'd suggest you use BUS and ATTRS{serial}.
;you haven't mentioned what you want to "do" with the device i.e. mount
it somewhere - or "who" should do that. Please let me know what you want
to do (I don't know anything about gtkpod requirements)


Example only - this will work - but should be modified to suit your
requirement (please read further down):-
ATTRS{serial}=="ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9",
ATTRS{manufacturer}=="Apple Inc.", ATTRS{product}=="iPod",
KERNEL=="sd?1", SYMLINK+="ipod", GROUP="plugdev", MODE="0660"

> 
> I then tried connecting the device again.  Still nothing.  I rebooted
> with the device attached.  Nothing.

Apologies - I'm rushed today and don't have time to check my notes. Try:-
udevadm control --reload-rules

> 
> What am I doing wrong?  

Not supplying dense walls of text describing your circumstances? ;)

You mention two devices - in which case I'd:-
;suggest you turn on udev debugging (as root "udevadm control
--log-priority=debug")
;*post* the output of "udevadm info"[*1] for both IPod devices) to
paste.debian.net and include a link in your reply.

[*1] see the Ref below for an expansion on what I mean by that.

> I have installed gtkpod and hope that it will do
> what I need it to do.  But first, I need to be able to mount the device.
> 
> Any help will be appreciated.

I'm happy to do so later today (time providing) when you've posted the
requested information (again, apologies - I don't own those devices).

> 
> Marc
> 
> 

Ref:- (a guide I've previously posted to this list)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/12/msg01117.html


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How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-22 Thread Marc Shapiro
My daughter has recently purchased an iPod Touch and would like to be 
able to maintain it from our linux box running Wheezy.  My wife has an 
iPad Mini and it would be nice to be able to maintain that from the 
linux box, as well.  I have googled.  I have upgraded to the latest 
kernel from Backports (3.16).  I have installed libimobiledevice-utils.  
I have done everything I can think of.


When I plug the device in I get the following in dmesg:

[  127.569680] usb 4-4.4: new high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci
[  127.665562] usb 4-4.4: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, 
idProduct=12aa
[  127.666054] usb 4-4.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=3

[  127.666538] usb 4-4.4: Product: iPod
[  127.667021] usb 4-4.4: Manufacturer: Apple Inc.
[  127.667517] usb 4-4.4: SerialNumber: 
ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9


You will note that there is no mention of a mountable device node. I 
have added a file, '50-custom.rules' in /etc/udev/rules.d that contains 
the line:


BUS=="scsi", ATTRS{idVendor}=="05ac", ATTRS{idProduct}=="12aa", 
ATTRS{serial}=="ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9", 
NAME{all_partitions}="ipod", GROUP="plugdev"


I then tried connecting the device again.  Still nothing.  I rebooted 
with the device attached.  Nothing.


What am I doing wrong?  I have installed gtkpod and hope that it will do 
what I need it to do.  But first, I need to be able to mount the device.


Any help will be appreciated.

Marc


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Re: iPod integration

2013-08-16 Thread arclance
The closest thing I know of to what you want is gtkpod.
http://packages.debian.org/sid/gtkpod

If your ipod has any hard drive issues though I found you will have more
luck running itunes in a virtual machine with USB passthrough.

Rockboxing your ipod and making m3u playlists for it yourself is also an
option which has worked best for my ipods ailing hard drive.
http://www.rockbox.org/

In my case the hard drive has bad sectors (and being FAT32 formated)
which causes a security file itunes writes to be corrupted making the
standard ipod software unusable.
Rockbox does not have this issue and works much better for me anyway.


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Re: iPod integration

2013-08-15 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 10:45 +0100, Klaus wrote: 
> Hello List
> Now, my question is: how do I connect to my music with something like
> Rhythmbox , VLC etc., to be able to compile a playlist, convert (on
> the fly?) the flac files to mp3, and upload them onto the iPod?
> Various bits of this process I can do, but haven't figured out a way
> to do it all.
> 
> There are quite a few old recipes on the 'net, some involving
> GNUpod. Is there anything new, more integrated?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 

Hallo Klaus!

I do not know the answer to your question, but would like to know as
well. If you find something, please, post here.

For now, I've been using forked-daapd to share media files over the lan
and jakpod to upload files to friends iGadgets.

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iPod integration

2013-08-15 Thread Klaus

Hello List

How do people here integrate their portable music player with their
Debian box? My daughter "inherited" a 2005-vintage iPod Shuffle, a
rather dumb device that holds one playlist, media files in a m4a
container, and it uses I believe mp3 encoding.

I've ripped all my CDs, to make them locally available on my headless
fileserver. The files are encode in flac, and are accessible through
either miniDLNA, a upnp server, or directly via NFS. The latter I use
to play the music via MPD (music player daemon), piped through a USB
digital-to-analog converter to my stereo (this is essentially a direct
replacement for my CD player), all controlled via Gnome Music Player
Client.

Now, my question is: how do I connect to my music with something like
Rhythmbox , VLC etc., to be able to compile a playlist, convert (on
the fly?) the flac files to mp3, and upload them onto the iPod?
Various bits of this process I can do, but haven't figured out a way
to do it all.

There are quite a few old recipes on the 'net, some involving
GNUpod. Is there anything new, more integrated?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: libgpod 0.8.2 not working with ipod nano 5th gen

2013-05-08 Thread André Nunes Batista
After trying over and over to find out why libgpod is unable to keep its
promise, I started looking for alternative software which does not rely
on this lib.

The only tool that stood up to the task was the one I underestimated
most: jakpod (http://www.jakpod.de/en). Simply mounted the ipod and
started sending files over, very much like I would do with an ordinary
two column file manager. And the transfer speed is very impressive
(starts at 20mb/s and remains no less than 10mb/s, which means what?
something like 10-15 albums per minute). After sad hours of dull
research on web and many remounts, itunes, windows and all, I can't stop
praising this software for its features.

However, there are downsides: it's not part of debian distro and it's
license restricts commercial use, so it could only reach through
non-free repo also only if (unlikely) deemed crucial. Moreover, it's
java and java apps tend to look real ugly and to go mad now and then.

Nonetheless, I'm considering writing a perl script to fetch source code
tarball and extract it to /opt or /usr/local/bin creating appropriate
menu links and icons (jakpod.sh does not work, it informs some weird -
to my knowledge - shell pattern: "cd ${0/jakpod.sh/}" and doing so it's
java starter remain hidden in the two line script). Since I'm no perl
monk, it should take me sometime to get the code right, but I'll come
back here when I do.

BTW, after I used this tool I tried once more gtkpod to see if it would
be able to see the sqlite database created by jakpod. To my great
surprise and to gtkpod's shame, it could see the database but it refused
to work within it saying its not hashed so they can't be certain. Well,
seriously, it's a gadget and it's music digital data, not the mainframe
of nuclear power station. The main goal should be accomplishing the task
of sending files, not the task of verifying hash summaries, names,
encryption or whatever. It's software to handle apple's junkware, not to
comply with its purposeful malicious features which encrypts song file
names and basically puts obstacles to what could ordinarily be achieved
with a simple file manager. To top it all, I've connected it to iTunes
then and it worked just fine, no complaints about hashes, nothing.

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Hi there!

I recently installed Debian Wheezy on someone else's computer, but I'm
having a hard time syncing ipod nano 5th gen with
banshee/clementine/rhythmbox.

As far as I could find out, they all rely on libgpod from gtkpod
project. This library states that support to ipod nano 5th gen was added
on 0.8 source code release. Debian wheezy version is 0.8.2 and so it
should work.

I found out some blog and forum posts stating similar problem: ipod is
recognized, music files can be added and removed, but after
disconnecting it, the music files are do not show up in the menus. Once
I got an error message stating some problem with SQLite database, but
not anymore.

Some people claim to have solved this issue connecting the ipod to an
iTunes to initialize it or generating some hash and writing it
to /Ipod_Control/Device/SysInfo. However this did now work for me, ipod
still remains unmanageable.

Firmware version is 1.0.2.

Does anyone have a clue to solving this issue? I am guessing the
firmware upgrade may have trashed the work of libgpod developers. That's
so apple style...

Thank you!

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libgpod 0.8.2 not working with ipod nano 5th gen

2013-05-08 Thread André Nunes Batista
Hi there!

I recently installed Debian Wheezy on someone else's computer, but I'm
having a hard time syncing ipod nano 5th gen with
banshee/clementine/rhythmbox.

As far as I could find out, they all rely on libgpod from gtkpod
project. This library states that support to ipod nano 5th gen was added
on 0.8 source code release. Debian wheezy version is 0.8.2 and so it
should work.

I found out some blog and forum posts stating similar problem: ipod is
recognized, music files can be added and removed, but after
disconnecting it, the music files are do not show up in the menus. Once
I got an error message stating some problem with SQLite database, but
not anymore.

Some people claim to have solved this issue connecting the ipod to an
iTunes to initialize it or generating some hash and writing it
to /Ipod_Control/Device/SysInfo. However this did now work for me, ipod
still remains unmanageable.

Firmware version is 1.0.2.

Does anyone have a clue to solving this issue? I am guessing the
firmware upgrade may have trashed the work of libgpod developers. That's
so apple style...

Thank you!

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Re: Mount iPod Touch

2012-07-25 Thread ricccardo
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 08:44 +0100, Keith McKenzie wrote:
> On 23 July 2012 23:51, ricccardo  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm still working to mount the iPod Touch. I read the backporting
> > libimobiledevice 1.1.1 to Squeeze, in the debian Wiki page but when i
> > try to build libgpod the terminal says:
> >
> > ric@ricmbp:~/Desktop/ComplilaLib/libgpod-0.7.93$ dpkg-buildpackage -b
> > -us -uc
> > dpkg-buildpackage: export CFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):
> > -g -O2
> > dpkg-buildpackage: export CPPFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
> > vendor):
> > dpkg-buildpackage: export CXXFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
> > vendor): -g -O2
> > dpkg-buildpackage: export FFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):
> > -g -O2
> > dpkg-buildpackage: export LDFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
> > vendor):
> > dpkg-buildpackage: source package libgpod
> > dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.7.93-0.3
> > dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Hideki Yamane 
> > dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
> >  dpkg-source --before-build libgpod-0.7.93
> > dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libsqlite3-dev
> > dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied;
> > aborting.
> > dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.)
> >
> > Using synaptic I sow that I can't install libsqlite3-dev because:
> >
> > libsqlite3-dev:
> >   Depends: libsqlite3-0 (=3.7.3-1) but 3.7.12.1-1~bpo60+1 is to be
> > installed
> >
> > How can I solve this??
> >
> > Regards
> > R
> 
> Perhaps 'apt-get -f install' will do it.
> 
> 
> 
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> 

I also tried use the -d option:

#
dpkg-buildpackage -b -us -uc -d
#

but the output of the terminal was:

#
.
checking for LIBGPOD... configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0
>= 2.8.0 gobject-2.0 sqlite3 libplist >= 1.0) were not met:

No package 'sqlite3' found

Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively, you may set the environment variables LIBGPOD_CFLAGS
and LIBGPOD_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
See the pkg-config man page for more details.

make: *** [build/libgpod4/config.status] Error 1
dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2
##

Using synaptic I found that this package is still installed, so I
searched the path of the package sqlite3:

#
sudo find / -name sqlite3 
#

the output was: 

##
/usr/share/doc/sqlite3
/usr/bin/sqlite3
/usr/lib/python2.6/sqlite3
/usr/lib/python2.5/sqlite3
##

and my path is:

##
:~$ echo $PATH
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games:/usr/lib
##

I do not understand why the dpkg-buildpackage -b -us -uc -d of
libgpod-0.7.93 doesn't work.

Regards 
R





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Re: Mount iPod Touch

2012-07-24 Thread Teemu Likonen
ricccardo [2012-07-24 21:36:07 +0200] wrote:

> ric@ricmbp:~$ sudo apt-get -f install libsqlite3-dev 

> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  libsqlite3-dev : Depends: libsqlite3-0 (= 3.7.3-1) but 3.7.12.1-1~bpo60
> +1 is to be installed
> E: Broken packages

Can you install the required version then?

$ sudo aptitude install libsqlite3-0=3.7.3-1


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Re: Mount iPod Touch

2012-07-24 Thread ricccardo
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 08:44 +0100, Keith McKenzie wrote:
> On 23 July 2012 23:51, ricccardo  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm still working to mount the iPod Touch. I read the backporting
> > libimobiledevice 1.1.1 to Squeeze, in the debian Wiki page but when i
> > try to build libgpod the terminal says:
> >
> > ric@ricmbp:~/Desktop/ComplilaLib/libgpod-0.7.93$ dpkg-buildpackage -b
> > -us -uc
> > dpkg-buildpackage: export CFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):
> > -g -O2
> > dpkg-buildpackage: export CPPFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
> > vendor):
> > dpkg-buildpackage: export CXXFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
> > vendor): -g -O2
> > dpkg-buildpackage: export FFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):
> > -g -O2
> > dpkg-buildpackage: export LDFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
> > vendor):
> > dpkg-buildpackage: source package libgpod
> > dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.7.93-0.3
> > dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Hideki Yamane 
> > dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
> >  dpkg-source --before-build libgpod-0.7.93
> > dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libsqlite3-dev
> > dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied;
> > aborting.
> > dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.)
> >
> > Using synaptic I sow that I can't install libsqlite3-dev because:
> >
> > libsqlite3-dev:
> >   Depends: libsqlite3-0 (=3.7.3-1) but 3.7.12.1-1~bpo60+1 is to be
> > installed
> >
> > How can I solve this??
> >
> > Regards
> > R
> 
> Perhaps 'apt-get -f install' will do it.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
I tried:

ric@ricmbp:~$ sudo apt-get -f install libsqlite3-dev 

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libsqlite3-dev : Depends: libsqlite3-0 (= 3.7.3-1) but 3.7.12.1-1~bpo60
+1 is to be installed
E: Broken packages


I have no idea ho to solve it. Further suggestion??

Best


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Re: Mount iPod Touch

2012-07-24 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 23 July 2012 23:51, ricccardo  wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm still working to mount the iPod Touch. I read the backporting
> libimobiledevice 1.1.1 to Squeeze, in the debian Wiki page but when i
> try to build libgpod the terminal says:
>
> ric@ricmbp:~/Desktop/ComplilaLib/libgpod-0.7.93$ dpkg-buildpackage -b
> -us -uc
> dpkg-buildpackage: export CFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):
> -g -O2
> dpkg-buildpackage: export CPPFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
> vendor):
> dpkg-buildpackage: export CXXFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
> vendor): -g -O2
> dpkg-buildpackage: export FFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):
> -g -O2
> dpkg-buildpackage: export LDFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
> vendor):
> dpkg-buildpackage: source package libgpod
> dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.7.93-0.3
> dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Hideki Yamane 
> dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
>  dpkg-source --before-build libgpod-0.7.93
> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libsqlite3-dev
> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied;
> aborting.
> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.)
>
> Using synaptic I sow that I can't install libsqlite3-dev because:
>
> libsqlite3-dev:
>   Depends: libsqlite3-0 (=3.7.3-1) but 3.7.12.1-1~bpo60+1 is to be
> installed
>
> How can I solve this??
>
> Regards
> R

Perhaps 'apt-get -f install' will do it.



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Mount iPod Touch

2012-07-23 Thread ricccardo
Hi, 
I'm still working to mount the iPod Touch. I read the backporting
libimobiledevice 1.1.1 to Squeeze, in the debian Wiki page but when i
try to build libgpod the terminal says:

ric@ricmbp:~/Desktop/ComplilaLib/libgpod-0.7.93$ dpkg-buildpackage -b
-us -uc
dpkg-buildpackage: export CFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):
-g -O2
dpkg-buildpackage: export CPPFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
vendor): 
dpkg-buildpackage: export CXXFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
vendor): -g -O2
dpkg-buildpackage: export FFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin: vendor):
-g -O2
dpkg-buildpackage: export LDFLAGS from dpkg-buildflags (origin:
vendor): 
dpkg-buildpackage: source package libgpod
dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.7.93-0.3
dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Hideki Yamane 
dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
 dpkg-source --before-build libgpod-0.7.93
dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libsqlite3-dev
dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied;
aborting.
dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.)

Using synaptic I sow that I can't install libsqlite3-dev because:

libsqlite3-dev:
  Depends: libsqlite3-0 (=3.7.3-1) but 3.7.12.1-1~bpo60+1 is to be
installed

How can I solve this??

Regards
R


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Re: Mount iPod Touch

2012-07-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I'm using an iPad with iTunes on XP SP2 as guest on VBox by USB and it
doesn't work good enough to use the iPad. I suspect Apple does work hard
to be sure that Linux can't be used with their products, so my
recommendation, we shouldn't use those Apple products. Ad-hoc by Linux
to enable Internet access for the iPad also doesn't work.

YMMV!
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Mount iPod Touch

2012-07-23 Thread ricccardo
Hi list, 
I tried to mount my iPod Touch (iOS 4), while i have this error:

Unable to mount ipod - Unhandled Lockdown error (-5)

Searching the wiky debian I found the mount-iphone.sh script, so I tried
it. The output of the terminal was:

Cannot find serial number of Apple device 0x05ac

Have you any idea?

Best
R


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Re: How to manage iPod and keep it in sync

2011-03-05 Thread Simon Brandmair
On Friday 04.03.2011 16:29, Manu Krishnan T.V wrote:
> On Monday 28 February 2011 12:11 AM, Simon Brandmair wrote: 
> > I am looking for a program to properly manage my iPod.

> Try gtkpod. I have used it earlier with my iPod nano and it does all 
> the stuffs you mentioned.

Thanks. I looked into gtkpod before and couldn't quite figure out how to 
do the syncing properly. I will give it another shot.

Cheers,
Simon



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How to manage iPod and keep it in sync

2011-02-27 Thread Simon Brandmair
Hi group,

I am looking for a program to properly manage my iPod. I am aware of some 
programs to add and delete songs (like amarok), but I am looking for a 
program which
 * displays missing files on iPod, which are in local music collection
 * syncs by prompting to add them to iPod or delete them on local 
collection
  * displays missing file on local collection, which are on iPod
  * syncs by prompting to add them to local collection or delete them on 
iPod

I would really appreciate some pointers.
Cheers,
Simon


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Re: o/t ipod

2011-01-11 Thread Sean Keane
Sharepod

Free application to transfer music and video files from an iPod/iPod Touch/
iPhone to a PC.

Try running it in wine, or use a VM.




On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 09:17, Thomas H. George  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 04:27:16PM +0100, Klistvud wrote:
> > Dne, 27. 12. 2010 18:43:06 je Camaleón napisal(a):
> >
> > >
> > >I still fail to see what people find exciting in Apple devices.
> > >Yes, they
> > >look nice but they're also even more closed than any MS product >:-)
> > >
> >
> > It must be their price. In our profit-centered culture, anything
> > overly expensive seems to instantly achieve a magical aura and a
> > high perceived value, be it a rolex, a ferrari, or a
> > high-maintenance lady.
> >
> Yes, but I must give the devil his due.  While I have no intention of
> using the gadget as an mp3 player - my Sundisk Sansa plays both mp3 and
> ogg - what the designers have crammed into this little package is truly
> impressive.  Wi-Fi, send and receive email, camera with zoom and the
> pictures can be emailed to my computer (my cell phone charges for that),
> motion and position sensors (the Star Walk app shifts the view of the
> night sky as you point the device at different stars), etc.
>
> If it had been my money I would have bought an Android device but I
> can't look this gift horse in the mouth.
>
> Tom George
> >
> >
>
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Re: o/t ipod

2011-01-07 Thread Thomas H. George
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 04:27:16PM +0100, Klistvud wrote:
> Dne, 27. 12. 2010 18:43:06 je Camaleón napisal(a):
> 
> >
> >I still fail to see what people find exciting in Apple devices.
> >Yes, they
> >look nice but they're also even more closed than any MS product >:-)
> >
> 
> It must be their price. In our profit-centered culture, anything
> overly expensive seems to instantly achieve a magical aura and a
> high perceived value, be it a rolex, a ferrari, or a
> high-maintenance lady.
> 
Yes, but I must give the devil his due.  While I have no intention of
using the gadget as an mp3 player - my Sundisk Sansa plays both mp3 and
ogg - what the designers have crammed into this little package is truly
impressive.  Wi-Fi, send and receive email, camera with zoom and the
pictures can be emailed to my computer (my cell phone charges for that),
motion and position sensors (the Star Walk app shifts the view of the
night sky as you point the device at different stars), etc.

If it had been my money I would have bought an Android device but I
can't look this gift horse in the mouth.

Tom George
> 
> 


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Re: o/t ipod

2011-01-06 Thread Pablo

Sorry if I am too late.
I once tried to connect a friend´s ipod to rhythmbox on Debian Lenny.

The behavior was really buggy. I managed to download only some of the 
songs to the computer.
And after unmounting, the ipod was showing as empty. Even though when 
remounted to the computer, rhythmbox was showing all music library.


I didn´t manage to restore the ipod to its original state but then I was 
told that with some windows software, the ipod recovered, showing the 
music library, and without any data loss.


I would be careful...

On 29/12/2010 9:00 a.m., shawn wilson wrote:

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, shawn wilson  wrote:

On Dec 26, 2010 7:57 AM, "Ted Wager"  wrote:

My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...



IIRC, there is no real good answer for linux. I think rythmbox has some
capabilities (that can be enabled or configured). You could also jailbreak
it and just scp stuff over (though you might need to hack around with plist
xml files). Itunes on windows is an option (though I'm not sure how to
handle account security or drm issues here). Also, if you go that route,
you're not really going to be able to keep your music synced up. If your
computer can handle it, you might research into running itunes inside of a
windows virtual box session.


fyi, i was wrong - there is a 'real good answer for linux'. i just had
a friend with an iphone plug into a straight ubuntu 10.10 computer
with rythmbox and it asked if i wanted to open it with rythmbox and we
uploaded a song. i think the device had to rebuild the song library
after because it took a minute to load up the player, but nothing was
lost and it was really only a minute or so for 15 gigs of music.




Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-28 Thread shawn wilson
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, shawn wilson  wrote:
>
> On Dec 26, 2010 7:57 AM, "Ted Wager"  wrote:
>>
>> My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
>> transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
>> machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...
>>
>>
>
> IIRC, there is no real good answer for linux. I think rythmbox has some
> capabilities (that can be enabled or configured). You could also jailbreak
> it and just scp stuff over (though you might need to hack around with plist
> xml files). Itunes on windows is an option (though I'm not sure how to
> handle account security or drm issues here). Also, if you go that route,
> you're not really going to be able to keep your music synced up. If your
> computer can handle it, you might research into running itunes inside of a
> windows virtual box session.
>

fyi, i was wrong - there is a 'real good answer for linux'. i just had
a friend with an iphone plug into a straight ubuntu 10.10 computer
with rythmbox and it asked if i wanted to open it with rythmbox and we
uploaded a song. i think the device had to rebuild the song library
after because it took a minute to load up the player, but nothing was
lost and it was really only a minute or so for 15 gigs of music.


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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-28 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 27. 12. 2010 18:43:06 je Camaleón napisal(a):



I still fail to see what people find exciting in Apple devices. Yes,  
they

look nice but they're also even more closed than any MS product >:-)



It must be their price. In our profit-centered culture, anything overly  
expensive seems to instantly achieve a magical aura and a high  
perceived value, be it a rolex, a ferrari, or a high-maintenance lady.


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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-27 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 06:32:34 -0600, Ted Wager wrote:

> My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
> transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
> machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...

Beside all the good advice you got, you may also find interesthing this 
wiki page:

http://wiki.debian.org/iPhone


I still fail to see what people find exciting in Apple devices. Yes, they 
look nice but they're also even more closed than any MS product >:-)


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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread Simon Hollenbach
ol- Original message -
> My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
> transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
> machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...

Hi Ted,
i dont know if u use KDE and neither do i know if it was an iPod touch 2G, I 
assume both in this post.

U can use amarok.
http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod

as u can see from the compatibility list there, it doesnt work our of the box 
for the newer ones, but there seem to be workarounds as:
http://unusedcycles.wordpress.com/2009/04/29/amarok-14-sync-with-ipod-touch-2g-in-linux/

Greets
Simon

P.S. Gtkpod, as mentioned before, is worth a try too and may be less of a pain 
to get to run.

Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread briand
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 09:32:46 -0800
John Jason Jordan  wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 06:32:34 -0600
> Ted Wager  dijo:
> 
> >My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can 
> >transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on
> >my machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...
> 
> I use gtkpod. Works like a champ. You'd have to plug in your son's
> iPod first and transfer the files to your computer, then plug your
> iPod in and copy them to it off your computer.
> 
> Having said that, I don't have any music that was purchased and might
> have DRM stuff. All my music is classical that I ripped myself from my
> CD collection. I don't know what gtkpod will do with DRM. Also, my
> iPod is several years old, so I don't know if there might be a
> problem with newer models. But gtkpod is in the repos, so it'll only
> take a couple minutes to give it a shot.
> 
> 


one thing you need to know about gtkpod.  the ipod has to have been
formatted for use under windoze.  if it's mac formatted it has hfs, or
some variation thereof, and gtkpod can't seem to deal with it.

FYI.


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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 06:32:34 -0600
Ted Wager  dijo:

>My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can 
>transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on
>my machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...

I use gtkpod. Works like a champ. You'd have to plug in your son's iPod
first and transfer the files to your computer, then plug your iPod in
and copy them to it off your computer.

Having said that, I don't have any music that was purchased and might
have DRM stuff. All my music is classical that I ripped myself from my
CD collection. I don't know what gtkpod will do with DRM. Also, my iPod
is several years old, so I don't know if there might be a problem with
newer models. But gtkpod is in the repos, so it'll only take a
couple minutes to give it a shot.


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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread Robert Blair Mason Jr.
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:10:27 +0100
Peter Beck  wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 06:32 -0600, Ted Wager wrote:
> > My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can 
> > transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my 
> > machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...
> 
> on windows it's not possible to attach the device with itunes on
> different computers without loosing all files. (I think there are 3rd
> party tools for that, but no idea how they are called)

Actually it is.  The most important factor is the source of the songs.
If they were bought on iTunes more than a year and a half ago, then
they are most likely laden with iTunes' DRM (the songs have a .m4p
extension).  Anyway, I digress.  I know that if you go into iTunes and
open the iPod's page, and then select "enable disk use" then you can
just copy all the files over (they'll be nested pretty deeply, just
look for a bunch of folders containing possibly yet more folders which
contain a bunch of four-letter filenames).  After you copy them you
should be able to drag them into iTunes.  If you go the linux route you
SHOULD be able to just connect the ipod and open the folder.  I'm
running Sid with LXDE, and opening up the file manager allowed me
_read_only_ access to the iPod, with no fancy command-line mount
required.  However, it did connect with an extremely slow protocol,
which appeared to take more time to copy the files than accessing it as
a USB device on windows (disclaimer: subjective experience, may have
had to do with better hardware on winbox).

So to wrap up, the files are on there, all you need to do is get read
access and copy it over.  No fancy third party program needed.  The
files are all correctly tagged, so they should play with a quick drag
and/or import into -insert favorite music player here- as long as -said
music player- has support for the MPEG-4 codec.  Note that these codecs
are patent-encumbered, so they might be in multiverse.  I think the
package for the gstreamer powered applications is gstreamer-plugins-bad
or something.  And if they're DRM protected, then I can make a torrent
that contains the software to take off the DRM (requiem)- note that
this requires installing an early version of itunes (i think) and only
works on windows.

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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread Jerome BENOIT

have you tried to share your iTune stuff ?

On 26/12/10 21:24, shawn wilson wrote:


On Dec 26, 2010 7:57 AM, "Ted Wager" mailto:t...@trufflesdad.plus.com>> wrote:
 >
 > My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
 > transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
 > machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...
 >
 >

IIRC, there is no real good answer for linux. I think rythmbox has some
capabilities (that can be enabled or configured). You could also
jailbreak it and just scp stuff over (though you might need to hack
around with plist xml files). Itunes on windows is an option (though I'm
not sure how to handle account security or drm issues here). Also, if
you go that route, you're not really going to be able to keep your music
synced up. If your computer can handle it, you might research into
running itunes inside of a windows virtual box session.




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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread shawn wilson
On Dec 26, 2010 7:57 AM, "Ted Wager"  wrote:
>
> My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
> transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
> machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...
>
>

IIRC, there is no real good answer for linux. I think rythmbox has some
capabilities (that can be enabled or configured). You could also jailbreak
it and just scp stuff over (though you might need to hack around with plist
xml files). Itunes on windows is an option (though I'm not sure how to
handle account security or drm issues here). Also, if you go that route,
you're not really going to be able to keep your music synced up. If your
computer can handle it, you might research into running itunes inside of a
windows virtual box session.


Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread Peter Beck
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 06:32 -0600, Ted Wager wrote:
> My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can 
> transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my 
> machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...

on windows it's not possible to attach the device with itunes on
different computers without loosing all files. (I think there are 3rd
party tools for that, but no idea how they are called)
I have seen Ubuntu with Rhythmbox working out of the box without loosing
all songs - just attach and copy the files to the disk.
Not sure on debian, afaik it did not work flawlessy on Lenny, but i
think it could work out of the box with Squeeze. There is a plugin on
Squeeze's Rhythmbox - Portable Players iPod.

If it does not work - maybe these links are useful: 
http://wiki.debian.org/iPod
http://wiki.debian.org/iPhone

Regards
Peter







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o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread Ted Wager
My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can 
transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my 
machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...


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Re: [OT] Ipod nano5g Debian support [SOLVED]

2010-04-08 Thread Julian De Marchi
Camaleón wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:24:20 +1000, Julian DeMarchi wrote:
> 
>> Has anyone got an ipod nano5g working in Debian?
> 
> Not sure if this will help, but AFAIK iPod Nano (G5) is supported in the 
> newer libgpod (>0.7.0) package.

Worked perfect! Weird, I manually compiled libgpod and gtkpod, to no
avail could I get it to work.

I *thought*, but didn't double check I had libgpod installed from apt
first.

Thanks again!

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Re: [OT] Ipod nano5g Debian support

2010-04-08 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:24:20 +1000, Julian DeMarchi wrote:

> Has anyone got an ipod nano5g working in Debian?

Not sure if this will help, but AFAIK iPod Nano (G5) is supported in the 
newer libgpod (>0.7.0) package.

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[OT] Ipod nano5g Debian support

2010-04-07 Thread Julian DeMarchi
Hey Guys,

Slightly off topic...

Has anyone got an ipod nano5g working in Debian?

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Re: How to connect my ipod?

2010-01-10 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2010-01-10 at 11:25 +0300, lego_12...@rambler.ru wrote:
>   udev + fstab
> 
>   You should write an udev rule for making something like /dev/ipod when a 
> device is connected to the computer. And then write line like next in the 
> fstab:
> 
> /dev/ipod  /media/ipod  vfat noauto,sync,users 0 0

If all that is required is a consistent mount point, then just give a
label to the iPod USB mass storage partition. Nautilus should automount
removable media to /media/volume-label-name.

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Re: How to connect my ipod?

2010-01-10 Thread lego_12239
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 11:13:56AM +0100, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I got a brand new toy, an iPod classic 160 GB, for my birthday today.
> When I connect I can see it through Nautilus. But depending on the mood
> of my machine (?) it is mounted as /dev/sdd, /dev/sde of whatever sd* it
> sees fit at /media/usb0 or /media/usb1 if I happened to have a
> usb-memory stick in my machine. 
> 
> Is it possible to let the iPod appear consistently at /media/ipod so
> that I can use it with GtkPod, which expects it to be at that mount
> point (or any other consistent mount point I guess)? If so, how does one
> do that using Debian Squeeze? 

  udev + fstab

  You should write an udev rule for making something like /dev/ipod when a 
device is connected to the computer. And then write line like next in the fstab:

/dev/ipod  /media/ipod  vfat noauto,sync,users 0 0


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Re: How to connect my ipod?

2010-01-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 11:13:56AM +0100, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:
[...]
> Is it possible to let the iPod appear consistently at /media/ipod so
> that I can use it with GtkPod, which expects it to be at that mount
> point (or any other consistent mount point I guess)? If so, how does one
> do that using Debian Squeeze? 

http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html

might help.

A


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How to connect my ipod?

2010-01-09 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
Hi,

I got a brand new toy, an iPod classic 160 GB, for my birthday today.
When I connect I can see it through Nautilus. But depending on the mood
of my machine (?) it is mounted as /dev/sdd, /dev/sde of whatever sd* it
sees fit at /media/usb0 or /media/usb1 if I happened to have a
usb-memory stick in my machine. 

Is it possible to let the iPod appear consistently at /media/ipod so
that I can use it with GtkPod, which expects it to be at that mount
point (or any other consistent mount point I guess)? If so, how does one
do that using Debian Squeeze? 

TIA

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Re: Can't manage my iPod

2009-12-28 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 10:19:03 +0100, Matteo Riva wrote:

> I used to be able to manage my iPod fine, but now it's almost
> impossible. The device mounts and is browseable, although I get this
> output from fdisk
> 
>   Disk /dev/sdb: 4095 MB, 4095737344 bytes 241 heads, 62 sectors/track,
>   535 cylinders Units = cylinders of 14942 * 512 = 7650304 bytes Disk
>   identifier: 0x20202020
>   
>  Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
>   /dev/sdb1   1  11   80293+   0  Empty
>   Partition 1 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
>phys=(0, 1, 1) logical=(0, 1, 2)
>   Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
>phys=(9, 254, 63) logical=(10, 181, 8)
>   Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sdb2 
>   11 536 3919415+   b  W95 FAT32 Partition 2 has different
>   physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
>phys=(10, 0, 7) logical=(10, 181, 15)
>   Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
>phys=(497, 240, 62) logical=(535, 88, 61)
>   
> is this normal?
> 
> I tried 5 different softwares (Rhythmbox, Amarok 2.2.1, Songbird,
> Banshee, GTKPod) and currently the only one that sees the iPod is
> Rhythmbox (although its support is partial, as I can transfer files to
> the device but not remove or modify them). The others don't even see it.
> 
> iPod is nano 4GB 1st gen, clean and reinitialized from iTunes on
> windows.
> 
> What can I do to troubleshoot this?

Dunno, but at least for Banshee it seems to be a recent bug:

Underlying distros moving from HAL to DeviceKit breaks Podsleuths ability 
to mount device
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586508

I'd say the other programs can have similar problems with these kind of 
devices as well as other distributions are facing the same problem.

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Can't manage my iPod

2009-12-27 Thread Matteo Riva
I used to be able to manage my iPod fine, but now it's almost
impossible. The device mounts and is browseable, although I get this
output from fdisk

  Disk /dev/sdb: 4095 MB, 4095737344 bytes
  241 heads, 62 sectors/track, 535 cylinders
  Units = cylinders of 14942 * 512 = 7650304 bytes
  Disk identifier: 0x20202020
  
 Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
  /dev/sdb1   1  11   80293+   0  Empty
  Partition 1 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
   phys=(0, 1, 1) logical=(0, 1, 2)
  Partition 1 has different physical/logical endings:
   phys=(9, 254, 63) logical=(10, 181, 8)
  Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
  /dev/sdb2  11 536 3919415+   b  W95 FAT32
  Partition 2 has different physical/logical beginnings (non-Linux?):
   phys=(10, 0, 7) logical=(10, 181, 15)
  Partition 2 has different physical/logical endings:
   phys=(497, 240, 62) logical=(535, 88, 61)

is this normal?

I tried 5 different softwares (Rhythmbox, Amarok 2.2.1, Songbird,
Banshee, GTKPod) and currently the only one that sees the iPod is
Rhythmbox (although its support is partial, as I can transfer files to
the device but not remove or modify them). The others don't even see it.

iPod is nano 4GB 1st gen, clean and reinitialized from iTunes on
windows.

What can I do to troubleshoot this?

Thanks.


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Re: iPod

2008-12-26 Thread Marc Shapiro
You are correct about the 3 perl related packages.  If I do an 'aptitude 
upgrade' they get done and so are not amarok specific.  Having done 
that, the other 35 packages (42.9 MB), KDE specific or not, still need 
to be installed, just to get amarok.



Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Wednesday 2008 December 24 23:29:45 Marc Shapiro wrote:
  

On my Etch system, I still get 3 upgrades



Are you sure this is for Amarok in specific?  Usually, there's only one 
version of perl in stable at a time -- you may simply be out of date on 
those.


  
and 35 new 
packages requiring over 49 MB of package files.



Only 7 are KDE related:
  

  kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a
  kdemultimedia-kio-plugins libakode2 libarts1-akode libarts1c2a
  libkcddb1



The rest are general-purpose.

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Re: iPod

2008-12-24 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 2008 December 24 23:29:45 Marc Shapiro wrote:
> On my Etch system, I still get 3 upgrades

Are you sure this is for Amarok in specific?  Usually, there's only one 
version of perl in stable at a time -- you may simply be out of date on 
those.

> and 35 new 
> packages requiring over 49 MB of package files.

Only 7 are KDE related:
>   kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a
>   kdemultimedia-kio-plugins libakode2 libarts1-akode libarts1c2a
>   libkcddb1

The rest are general-purpose.

Amarok has a lot of core, non-optional functionality, which means a lot of 
dependencies.  It would be nice if more of that was optional (e.g. via 
plugins), which may be the case with Amarok 2.

I think Amarok is the best music player application for any OS, bar none.  If 
you are only interested in copying files to/from an iPod (or other portable 
media player), it's a bit of overkill though.
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Re: iPod

2008-12-24 Thread Marc Shapiro

Daniel Burrows wrote:

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:43:33PM -0500, JoeHill  was 
heard to say:
  

I'm just not sure why I would have to install kdesktop, kicker, kamera, and
konqueror for an app that syncs with my iPod.



  On lenny/unstable, blame amarok-konqsidebar:


  If you cancel installing that package (which you don't need unless you
run konqueror), you should be able to avoid installing all those KDE
packages.
  
On my Etch system (from which I have purged all memories of KDE) without 
recommends, so no amarok-konqsidebar, I still get 3 upgrades and 35 new 
packages requiring over 49 MB of package files.  That is still quite a lot.


~$ sudo aptitude install amarok
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following NEW packages will be automatically installed:
 amarok-engines amarok-xine aspell aspell-en kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a
 kdemultimedia-kio-plugins libakode2 libarts1-akode libarts1c2a
 libaspell15 libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3
 libavahi-qt3-1 libgpod-common libgpod0 libgpod1 libifp4 libkcddb1
 liblua50 liblualib50 libmusicbrainz4c2a libmysqlclient15off libnjb5
 libopenexr2c2a libperl5.8 libtag1c2a libtunepimp3 libvisual-0.4-0
 libvisual-0.4-plugins menu-xdg mysql-common perl-suid
The following packages have been kept back:
 jpilot perl-doc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 amarok amarok-engines amarok-xine aspell aspell-en kdelibs-data
 kdelibs4c2a kdemultimedia-kio-plugins libakode2 libarts1-akode
 libarts1c2a libaspell15 libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data
 libavahi-common3 libavahi-qt3-1 libgpod-common libgpod0 libgpod1 libifp4
 libkcddb1 liblua50 liblualib50 libmusicbrainz4c2a libmysqlclient15off
 libnjb5 libopenexr2c2a libperl5.8 libtag1c2a libtunepimp3 libvisual-0.4-0
 libvisual-0.4-plugins menu-xdg mysql-common perl-suid
The following packages will be upgraded:
 perl perl-base perl-modules
3 packages upgraded, 35 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 42.9MB/49.6MB of archives. After unpacking 113MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n


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Re: iPod

2008-12-24 Thread JoeHill
Daniel Burrows wrote: 

> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:43:33PM -0500, JoeHill  was
> heard to say:
> > I'm just not sure why I would have to install kdesktop, kicker, kamera, and
> > konqueror for an app that syncs with my iPod.  
> 
>   On lenny/unstable, blame amarok-konqsidebar:
> 
> dan...@emurlahn:~$ aptitude why amarok kicker
> p   amarok Recommends amarok-konqsidebar
> p   amarok-konqsidebar Dependskonqueror (< 4:3.90.0)
> i A konqueror  Dependskcontrol (= 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6)
> i A kcontrol   Dependskicker (>= 4:3.5.9)
> dan...@emurlahn:~$ aptitude why amarok kdesktop
> p   amarok Recommends amarok-konqsidebar
> p   amarok-konqsidebar Dependskonqueror (< 4:3.90.0)
> i A konqueror  Dependskdesktop (= 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6)
> dan...@emurlahn:~$ aptitude why amarok kamera
> p   amarok  Recommends amarok-konqsidebar
> p   amarok-konqsidebar  Dependskonqueror (< 4:3.90.0)
> i A konqueror   Dependskdebase-kio-plugins (= 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6)
> i A kdebase-kio-plugins Recommends kamera
> 
>   If you cancel installing that package (which you don't need unless you
> run konqueror), you should be able to avoid installing all those KDE
> packages.

Those are some really awesome tips, I did not know about the 'why' option for
aptitude (kinda really really new to Debian).

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Re: iPod

2008-12-24 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:43:33PM -0500, JoeHill  was 
heard to say:
> I'm just not sure why I would have to install kdesktop, kicker, kamera, and
> konqueror for an app that syncs with my iPod.

  On lenny/unstable, blame amarok-konqsidebar:

dan...@emurlahn:~$ aptitude why amarok kicker
p   amarok Recommends amarok-konqsidebar
p   amarok-konqsidebar Dependskonqueror (< 4:3.90.0)
i A konqueror  Dependskcontrol (= 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6)
i A kcontrol   Dependskicker (>= 4:3.5.9)
dan...@emurlahn:~$ aptitude why amarok kdesktop
p   amarok Recommends amarok-konqsidebar
p   amarok-konqsidebar Dependskonqueror (< 4:3.90.0)
i A konqueror  Dependskdesktop (= 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6)
dan...@emurlahn:~$ aptitude why amarok kamera
p   amarok  Recommends amarok-konqsidebar
p   amarok-konqsidebar  Dependskonqueror (< 4:3.90.0)
i A konqueror   Dependskdebase-kio-plugins (= 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6)
i A kdebase-kio-plugins Recommends kamera

  If you cancel installing that package (which you don't need unless you
run konqueror), you should be able to avoid installing all those KDE
packages.

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Re: iPod

2008-12-23 Thread JoeHill
Jeff D wrote: 

> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, JoeHill wrote:
> 
> > lostson wrote:
> >  
> > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:24:28PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:  
> > > > Daryl Styrk wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > >> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc.
> > > > > >> etc.  
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.  
> > >  thats not quite everything there is alot more  
> >
> > That's not exactly comforting... ;)
> >
> > I'm just not sure why I would have to install kdesktop, kicker, kamera, and
> > konqueror for an app that syncs with my iPod.
> >
> > On the other hand, I would like to see someone who had not a single Gnome
> > dep installed try to pull down gtkpod and see what comes with it.
> >
> >  
> 
> this is off a etch 64bit xen image off of jailtime.org, so, not much is
> installed by default, no x or anything.
> 
> Etch:
> apt-get install amarok:
> 0 upgraded, 124 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 80.4MB of archives.
> After unpacking 240MB of additional disk space will be used.
> 
> 
> apt-get install gtkpod:
> 0 upgraded, 40 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 21.9MB of archives.
> After unpacking 74.4MB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
> 
> Then upgraded the image to Lenny
> 
> apt-get install amarok:
> 0 upgraded, 272 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 151MB of archives.
> After this operation, 430MB of additional disk space will be used.
> 
> apt-get install gtkpod:
> 0 upgraded, 194 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 75.7MB of archives.
> After this operation, 234MB of additional disk space will be used.

lol, thanks, I didn't expect such a quick or precise answer :-)

To me, it appears that both pull in a pretty hefty 'base', but Amarok is
demanding about 80 more packages than gtkpod.

Now, I will admit that I do not know how much more functionality Amarok might
add, so I'm not saying that those extra 80 packages are just 'fluff'.

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Re: iPod

2008-12-23 Thread Jeff D
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, JoeHill wrote:

> lostson wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:24:28PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
> > > Daryl Styrk wrote:
> > >
> > > > >> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc.
> > > > >> etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.
> >  thats not quite everything there is alot more
>
> That's not exactly comforting... ;)
>
> I'm just not sure why I would have to install kdesktop, kicker, kamera, and
> konqueror for an app that syncs with my iPod.
>
> On the other hand, I would like to see someone who had not a single Gnome dep
> installed try to pull down gtkpod and see what comes with it.
>
>

this is off a etch 64bit xen image off of jailtime.org, so, not much is
installed by default, no x or anything.

Etch:
apt-get install amarok:
0 upgraded, 124 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 80.4MB of archives.
After unpacking 240MB of additional disk space will be used.


apt-get install gtkpod:
0 upgraded, 40 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 21.9MB of archives.
After unpacking 74.4MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n

Then upgraded the image to Lenny

apt-get install amarok:
0 upgraded, 272 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 151MB of archives.
After this operation, 430MB of additional disk space will be used.

apt-get install gtkpod:
0 upgraded, 194 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 75.7MB of archives.
After this operation, 234MB of additional disk space will be used.


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Re: iPod

2008-12-23 Thread JoeHill
lostson wrote: 

> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:24:28PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
> > Daryl Styrk wrote: 
> >   
> > > >> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc.
> > > >> etc.
> > > > 
> > > > ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > kde must be pretty small then..  there are some libs that come with it,
> > > but not the entire environment packages.  
> > 
> > Wha?
> > 
> > When I do 'aptitude install amarok', I get this:
> > 
> > The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >   amarok amarok-common{a} amarok-engine-xine{a} amarok-konqsidebar{a} 
> >   kamera{a} kcontrol{a} kdebase-bin{a} kdebase-bin-kde3{a} kdebase-data{a} 
> >   kdebase-kio-plugins{a} kdeeject{a} kdelibs-data{a} kdelibs4c2a{a} 
> >   kdemultimedia-kio-plugins{a} kdesktop{a} kfind{a} kicker{a} konqueror{a} 
> >   libakode2{a} libarts1-akode{a} libarts1c2a{a} libavahi-qt3-1{a} 
> >   libdbus-qt-1-1c2{a} libifp4{a} libkarma0{a} libkcddb1{a} libkonq4{a} 
> >   liblua50{a} liblualib50{a} libnjb5{a} libruby1.8{a} libtunepimp5{a} 
> >   oss-compat{a} ruby{a} ruby1.8{a} 
> > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >   id3v2{u} libid3-3.8.3c2a{u} libungif4-dev{u} vorbis-tools{u} 
> > 0 packages upgraded, 35 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > Need to get 58.7MB of archives. After unpacking 157MB will be used.
> > 
> > That looks like pretty much everything to me, no?
> > 
> > -- 
> > J
> > 
> > 
> > --   
>  thats not quite everything there is alot more 

That's not exactly comforting... ;)

I'm just not sure why I would have to install kdesktop, kicker, kamera, and
konqueror for an app that syncs with my iPod.

On the other hand, I would like to see someone who had not a single Gnome dep
installed try to pull down gtkpod and see what comes with it.

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Re: iPod

2008-12-23 Thread lostson
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:24:28PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
> Daryl Styrk wrote: 
> 
> > >> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc. etc.  
> > > 
> > > ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.
> > >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > kde must be pretty small then..  there are some libs that come with it,
> > but not the entire environment packages.
> 
> Wha?
> 
> When I do 'aptitude install amarok', I get this:
> 
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   amarok amarok-common{a} amarok-engine-xine{a} amarok-konqsidebar{a} 
>   kamera{a} kcontrol{a} kdebase-bin{a} kdebase-bin-kde3{a} kdebase-data{a} 
>   kdebase-kio-plugins{a} kdeeject{a} kdelibs-data{a} kdelibs4c2a{a} 
>   kdemultimedia-kio-plugins{a} kdesktop{a} kfind{a} kicker{a} konqueror{a} 
>   libakode2{a} libarts1-akode{a} libarts1c2a{a} libavahi-qt3-1{a} 
>   libdbus-qt-1-1c2{a} libifp4{a} libkarma0{a} libkcddb1{a} libkonq4{a} 
>   liblua50{a} liblualib50{a} libnjb5{a} libruby1.8{a} libtunepimp5{a} 
>   oss-compat{a} ruby{a} ruby1.8{a} 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   id3v2{u} libid3-3.8.3c2a{u} libungif4-dev{u} vorbis-tools{u} 
> 0 packages upgraded, 35 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 58.7MB of archives. After unpacking 157MB will be used.
> 
> That looks like pretty much everything to me, no?
> 
> -- 
> J
> 
> 
> -- 
 thats not quite everything there is alot more 

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Re: iPod

2008-12-23 Thread JoeHill
Daryl Styrk wrote: 

> >> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc. etc.  
> > 
> > ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.
> >   
> 
> 
> 
> kde must be pretty small then..  there are some libs that come with it,
> but not the entire environment packages.

Wha?

When I do 'aptitude install amarok', I get this:

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  amarok amarok-common{a} amarok-engine-xine{a} amarok-konqsidebar{a} 
  kamera{a} kcontrol{a} kdebase-bin{a} kdebase-bin-kde3{a} kdebase-data{a} 
  kdebase-kio-plugins{a} kdeeject{a} kdelibs-data{a} kdelibs4c2a{a} 
  kdemultimedia-kio-plugins{a} kdesktop{a} kfind{a} kicker{a} konqueror{a} 
  libakode2{a} libarts1-akode{a} libarts1c2a{a} libavahi-qt3-1{a} 
  libdbus-qt-1-1c2{a} libifp4{a} libkarma0{a} libkcddb1{a} libkonq4{a} 
  liblua50{a} liblualib50{a} libnjb5{a} libruby1.8{a} libtunepimp5{a} 
  oss-compat{a} ruby{a} ruby1.8{a} 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  id3v2{u} libid3-3.8.3c2a{u} libungif4-dev{u} vorbis-tools{u} 
0 packages upgraded, 35 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 58.7MB of archives. After unpacking 157MB will be used.

That looks like pretty much everything to me, no?

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Re: iPod

2008-12-23 Thread Daryl Styrk
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>> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc. etc.
> 
> ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.
> 



kde must be pretty small then..  there are some libs that come with it,
but not the entire environment packages.

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Re: iPod

2008-12-23 Thread JoeHill
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: 

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> Raquel wrote:
> > Okay, I've gotten rid of the Creative Zen and ordered the iPod Nano
> > as a gift to Trish, my spouse. What do I need to manage the iPod Nano?
> > I'd just as soon not use a command line to do it, largely because
> > Trish is going to be managing her own iPod after I get it first
> > loaded.  So, a gui would be nice for her.  
> 
> YMMV, but I'd recommend trying amarok for everyone who wants more than
> just copying files from hard disk to ipod or vice verse. It helps
> organize my music, downloads my favourite radio programmes on schedule
> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc. etc.

...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.

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Re: iPod

2008-12-22 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
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Raquel wrote:
> Okay, I've gotten rid of the Creative Zen and ordered the iPod Nano
> as a gift to Trish, my spouse. What do I need to manage the iPod Nano?
> I'd just as soon not use a command line to do it, largely because
> Trish is going to be managing her own iPod after I get it first
> loaded.  So, a gui would be nice for her.

YMMV, but I'd recommend trying amarok for everyone who wants more than
just copying files from hard disk to ipod or vice verse. It helps
organize my music, downloads my favourite radio programmes on schedule
and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc. etc.

Cheers,
Johannes

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RE: iPod

2008-12-22 Thread Stackpole, Chris
> From: b_kl...@web.de [mailto:b_kl...@web.de]
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 3:12 AM
> Subject: Re: iPod
[snip]
> on Lenny I asked aptitude about gtkpod and it proposes also the
> installation
> of
> 
> faac
> faad
> 
> Why encoders?
> 
> mp3gain
> 
> Is this only modifying mp3's you put in the ipod or is it changing the
> sources
> before transferring songs to an ipod?

Back before I converted my iPod to Rockbox* I had never paid attention
to how I stored my music in relation to what others told me how I should
store my music. I just used the format that was best for me at the time.
I have a method to my madness that makes sense to me, but the short of
it is I have a huge collection of FLAC, OGG, and a very small minority
of MP3's. When I used song managers with my iPod I discovered that they
would auto convert my music into mp3's (at least I don't remember
manually configuring that). Again, I have not used gtkpod or amarok for
iPod related activities in a long time so things may be different, but I
suspect that they are there to do just that. Convert files that the
device would otherwise not recognize.

*I realize that Rockbox is not an option for you at this time. However,
that really was the best thing I ever did with my iPod. I hate iTunes
and back then the iPod under Etch (then testing) wasn't much better. I
have heard it is infinitely better now but Rockbox has been too good to
me to risk switching back.

Anyway, I hope that provided the information you were looking for and
wasn't too much of a rambling story. :-)
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Re: iPod

2008-12-21 Thread JoeHill
Raquel wrote: 

> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:14:36 -0500
> JoeHill  wrote:
> 
> > Raquel wrote: 
> >   
> > > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:12:24 -0500
> > > JoeHill  wrote:
> > >   
> > > > Raquel wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:18:51 -0500
> > > > > JoeHill  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Raquel wrote: 
> > > > > >   
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What I understand, from reading their website is that they
> > > > > > > don't support Gen4 Nanos ... and that's what I'm getting
> > > > > > > Trish.  Do I understand correctly that Rhythmbox does a
> > > > > > > good job of syncing with the Nano?   
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It should, however I've had much much better results with
> > > > > > gtkpod. Very easy to use, simple interface. I've never had a
> > > > > > single problem.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > J
> > > > > >   
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is that with Etch?
> > > > 
> > > > No, I'm on Testing. What versions of libgpod and gtkpod show as
> > > > available for Etch?
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > J
> > > 
> > > U, libgpod0 = 0.3.2-1.1 -\
> > >libgpod1 = 0.4.2-0.1 --- all 3 seem to be installed
> > >libgpod3 = 0.60-3-bp -/
> > >gtkpod = .99.4-2  
> > 
> > libgpod3 should have the right stuff to communicate with your iPod.
> > It was at that point support was added for latest generation iPods.
> > 
> > -- 
> > J
> >   
> 
> Joe, I really do appreciate you spending the time with me on this.
> The new Nano will be here late on the 23rd and I may have just enough
> time to get her music loaded before having to wrap it.

Not a problem, I needed a lot of help with my iPod when I first got it :-)

Also, I will be around on the 23rd, and yes I'm enough of a nerd to be
reading my e-mail that close to Christmas ;)

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Re: iPod

2008-12-21 Thread Raquel
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:14:36 -0500
JoeHill  wrote:

> Raquel wrote: 
> 
> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:12:24 -0500
> > JoeHill  wrote:
> > 
> > > Raquel wrote: 
> > >   
> > > > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:18:51 -0500
> > > > JoeHill  wrote:
> > > >   
> > > > > Raquel wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What I understand, from reading their website is that they
> > > > > > don't support Gen4 Nanos ... and that's what I'm getting
> > > > > > Trish.  Do I understand correctly that Rhythmbox does a
> > > > > > good job of syncing with the Nano? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > It should, however I've had much much better results with
> > > > > gtkpod. Very easy to use, simple interface. I've never had a
> > > > > single problem.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > J
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Is that with Etch?  
> > > 
> > > No, I'm on Testing. What versions of libgpod and gtkpod show as
> > > available for Etch?
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > J  
> > 
> > U, libgpod0 = 0.3.2-1.1 -\
> >libgpod1 = 0.4.2-0.1 --- all 3 seem to be installed
> >libgpod3 = 0.60-3-bp -/
> >gtkpod = .99.4-2
> 
> libgpod3 should have the right stuff to communicate with your iPod.
> It was at that point support was added for latest generation iPods.
> 
> -- 
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> 

Joe, I really do appreciate you spending the time with me on this.
The new Nano will be here late on the 23rd and I may have just enough
time to get her music loaded before having to wrap it.

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Re: iPod

2008-12-21 Thread JoeHill
Bernd Kloss wrote: 

> Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 schrieb JoeHill:
> > Raquel wrote:  
> > > On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:57:31 -0500
> > >
> > > JoeHill  wrote:  
> > > > Daryl Styrk wrote:  
> > > > > > Rockbox is not recommended, that entails completely replacing
> > > > > > the iPod's software.  
> > > > >
> > > > > I have only heard good things about it from the LUG.  But I
> > > > > suppose if you can pull it off without it I'd say rock on..  
> > > >
> > > > I have nothing against Rockbox, in fact once they support current
> > > > gen iPods I'll definitely give it a shot. For one thing it supports
> > > > a lot more cool features and formats than the default iPod software.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > J  
> > >
> > > What I understand, from reading their website is that they don't
> > > support Gen4 Nanos ... and that's what I'm getting Trish.  Do I
> > > understand correctly that Rhythmbox does a good job of syncing with
> > > the Nano?  
> >
> > It should, however I've had much much better results with gtkpod. Very easy
> > to use, simple interface. I've never had a single problem.
> >
> > --
> > J  
> Hello,
> 
> on Lenny I asked aptitude about gtkpod and it proposes also the installation 
> of
> 
> faac
> faad
> 
> Why encoders?
> 
> mp3gain
> 
> Is this only modifying mp3's you put in the ipod or is it changing the
> sources before transferring songs to an ipod?

It definitely does not do anything to the source files. mp3gain allows gtkpod
to normalize the volume of mp3's on your device. As for faac and faad, IIANM
that is to facilitate loading of compliant video files on the iPod, but I
thought that was only for gtkpod-aac. Not totally sure on that one.

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Re: iPod

2008-12-21 Thread JoeHill
Raquel wrote: 

> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:12:24 -0500
> JoeHill  wrote:
> 
> > Raquel wrote: 
> >   
> > > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:18:51 -0500
> > > JoeHill  wrote:
> > >   
> > > > Raquel wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What I understand, from reading their website is that they
> > > > > don't support Gen4 Nanos ... and that's what I'm getting
> > > > > Trish.  Do I understand correctly that Rhythmbox does a good
> > > > > job of syncing with the Nano? 
> > > > 
> > > > It should, however I've had much much better results with
> > > > gtkpod. Very easy to use, simple interface. I've never had a
> > > > single problem.
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > J
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Is that with Etch?  
> > 
> > No, I'm on Testing. What versions of libgpod and gtkpod show as
> > available for Etch?
> > 
> > -- 
> > J  
> 
> U, libgpod0 = 0.3.2-1.1 -\
>libgpod1 = 0.4.2-0.1 --- all 3 seem to be installed
>libgpod3 = 0.60-3-bp -/
>gtkpod = .99.4-2

libgpod3 should have the right stuff to communicate with your iPod. It was at
that point support was added for latest generation iPods.

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Re: iPod

2008-12-21 Thread Bernd Kloss
Am Sonntag, 21. Dezember 2008 schrieb JoeHill:
> Raquel wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:57:31 -0500
> >
> > JoeHill  wrote:
> > > Daryl Styrk wrote:
> > > > > Rockbox is not recommended, that entails completely replacing
> > > > > the iPod's software.
> > > >
> > > > I have only heard good things about it from the LUG.  But I
> > > > suppose if you can pull it off without it I'd say rock on..
> > >
> > > I have nothing against Rockbox, in fact once they support current
> > > gen iPods I'll definitely give it a shot. For one thing it supports
> > > a lot more cool features and formats than the default iPod software.
> > >
> > > --
> > > J
> >
> > What I understand, from reading their website is that they don't
> > support Gen4 Nanos ... and that's what I'm getting Trish.  Do I
> > understand correctly that Rhythmbox does a good job of syncing with
> > the Nano?
>
> It should, however I've had much much better results with gtkpod. Very easy
> to use, simple interface. I've never had a single problem.
>
> --
> J
Hello,

on Lenny I asked aptitude about gtkpod and it proposes also the installation 
of

faac
faad

Why encoders?

mp3gain

Is this only modifying mp3's you put in the ipod or is it changing the sources 
before transferring songs to an ipod?

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Re: iPod

2008-12-20 Thread Raquel
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:12:24 -0500
JoeHill  wrote:

> Raquel wrote: 
> 
> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:18:51 -0500
> > JoeHill  wrote:
> > 
> > > Raquel wrote: 
> > >   
> > > > 
> > > > What I understand, from reading their website is that they
> > > > don't support Gen4 Nanos ... and that's what I'm getting
> > > > Trish.  Do I understand correctly that Rhythmbox does a good
> > > > job of syncing with the Nano?   
> > > 
> > > It should, however I've had much much better results with
> > > gtkpod. Very easy to use, simple interface. I've never had a
> > > single problem.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > J
> > >   
> > 
> > Is that with Etch?
> 
> No, I'm on Testing. What versions of libgpod and gtkpod show as
> available for Etch?
> 
> -- 
> J

U, libgpod0 = 0.3.2-1.1 -\
   libgpod1 = 0.4.2-0.1 --- all 3 seem to be installed
   libgpod3 = 0.60-3-bp -/
   gtkpod = .99.4-2

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Re: iPod

2008-12-20 Thread JoeHill
Raquel wrote: 

> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:18:51 -0500
> JoeHill  wrote:
> 
> > Raquel wrote: 
> >   
> > > On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:57:31 -0500
> > > JoeHill  wrote:
> > >   
> > > > Daryl Styrk wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > > > Rockbox is not recommended, that entails completely
> > > > > > replacing the iPod's software.
> > > > > >   
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have only heard good things about it from the LUG.  But I
> > > > > suppose if you can pull it off without it I'd say rock on..
> > > > 
> > > > I have nothing against Rockbox, in fact once they support
> > > > current gen iPods I'll definitely give it a shot. For one thing
> > > > it supports a lot more cool features and formats than the
> > > > default iPod software.
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > J
> > > 
> > > What I understand, from reading their website is that they don't
> > > support Gen4 Nanos ... and that's what I'm getting Trish.  Do I
> > > understand correctly that Rhythmbox does a good job of syncing
> > > with the Nano?   
> > 
> > It should, however I've had much much better results with gtkpod.
> > Very easy to use, simple interface. I've never had a single problem.
> > 
> > -- 
> > J
> >   
> 
> Is that with Etch?

No, I'm on Testing. What versions of libgpod and gtkpod show as available for
Etch?

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Re: iPod

2008-12-20 Thread Raquel
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:18:51 -0500
JoeHill  wrote:

> Raquel wrote: 
> 
> > On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:57:31 -0500
> > JoeHill  wrote:
> > 
> > > Daryl Styrk wrote: 
> > >   
> > > > > Rockbox is not recommended, that entails completely
> > > > > replacing the iPod's software.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I have only heard good things about it from the LUG.  But I
> > > > suppose if you can pull it off without it I'd say rock on..  
> > > 
> > > I have nothing against Rockbox, in fact once they support
> > > current gen iPods I'll definitely give it a shot. For one thing
> > > it supports a lot more cool features and formats than the
> > > default iPod software.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > J  
> > 
> > What I understand, from reading their website is that they don't
> > support Gen4 Nanos ... and that's what I'm getting Trish.  Do I
> > understand correctly that Rhythmbox does a good job of syncing
> > with the Nano? 
> 
> It should, however I've had much much better results with gtkpod.
> Very easy to use, simple interface. I've never had a single problem.
> 
> -- 
> J
> 

Is that with Etch?

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Re: iPod

2008-12-20 Thread JoeHill
Raquel wrote: 

> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:57:31 -0500
> JoeHill  wrote:
> 
> > Daryl Styrk wrote: 
> >   
> > > > Rockbox is not recommended, that entails completely replacing
> > > > the iPod's software.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I have only heard good things about it from the LUG.  But I
> > > suppose if you can pull it off without it I'd say rock on..  
> > 
> > I have nothing against Rockbox, in fact once they support current
> > gen iPods I'll definitely give it a shot. For one thing it supports
> > a lot more cool features and formats than the default iPod software.
> > 
> > -- 
> > J  
> 
> What I understand, from reading their website is that they don't
> support Gen4 Nanos ... and that's what I'm getting Trish.  Do I
> understand correctly that Rhythmbox does a good job of syncing with
> the Nano? 

It should, however I've had much much better results with gtkpod. Very easy to
use, simple interface. I've never had a single problem.

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Re: iPod

2008-12-20 Thread Raquel
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 22:57:31 -0500
JoeHill  wrote:

> Daryl Styrk wrote: 
> 
> > > Rockbox is not recommended, that entails completely replacing
> > > the iPod's software.
> > >   
> > 
> > I have only heard good things about it from the LUG.  But I
> > suppose if you can pull it off without it I'd say rock on..
> 
> I have nothing against Rockbox, in fact once they support current
> gen iPods I'll definitely give it a shot. For one thing it supports
> a lot more cool features and formats than the default iPod software.
> 
> -- 
> J

What I understand, from reading their website is that they don't
support Gen4 Nanos ... and that's what I'm getting Trish.  Do I
understand correctly that Rhythmbox does a good job of syncing with
the Nano? 

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Re: iPod

2008-12-20 Thread JoeHill
Daryl Styrk wrote: 

> > Rockbox is not recommended, that entails completely replacing the iPod's
> > software.
> >   
> 
> I have only heard good things about it from the LUG.  But I suppose if
> you can pull it off without it I'd say rock on..

I have nothing against Rockbox, in fact once they support current gen iPods
I'll definitely give it a shot. For one thing it supports a lot more cool
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Re: iPod

2008-12-20 Thread Jeff D
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Raquel wrote:

> Okay, I've gotten rid of the Creative Zen and ordered the iPod Nano
> as a gift to Trish, my spouse. What do I need to manage the iPod Nano?
> I'd just as soon not use a command line to do it, largely because
> Trish is going to be managing her own iPod after I get it first
> loaded.  So, a gui would be nice for her.
>
>

you might want to check out gtkpod

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Re: iPod

2008-12-20 Thread Daryl Styrk
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I have only heard good things about it from the LUG.  But I suppose if
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Re: iPod

2008-12-20 Thread JoeHill
Raquel wrote: 

> Okay, I've gotten rid of the Creative Zen and ordered the iPod Nano
> as a gift to Trish, my spouse. What do I need to manage the iPod Nano?
> I'd just as soon not use a command line to do it, largely because
> Trish is going to be managing her own iPod after I get it first
> loaded.  So, a gui would be nice for her.

Either Amarok or Gtkpod will work, they both use libgpod to connect to an iPod.
Gtkpod has been the easiest to use for me, Amarok seems unnecessarily
complicated for just adding songs to an iPod.

One thing, though, only versions of libgpod after 0.60 support recent ipod
incarnations, if Debian Etch is still using versions from a year or so ago,
they won't work.

Rockbox is not recommended, that entails completely replacing the iPod's
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Re: iPod

2008-12-20 Thread Daryl Styrk
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Raquel wrote:
> Okay, I've gotten rid of the Creative Zen and ordered the iPod Nano
> as a gift to Trish, my spouse. What do I need to manage the iPod Nano?
> I'd just as soon not use a command line to do it, largely because
> Trish is going to be managing her own iPod after I get it first
> loaded.  So, a gui would be nice for her.
> 

I briefly read a couple of the Zen posts, but you my want to look at
Rock Box http://www.rockbox.org/

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iPod

2008-12-20 Thread Raquel
Okay, I've gotten rid of the Creative Zen and ordered the iPod Nano
as a gift to Trish, my spouse. What do I need to manage the iPod Nano?
I'd just as soon not use a command line to do it, largely because
Trish is going to be managing her own iPod after I get it first
loaded.  So, a gui would be nice for her.

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Re: iPod Nano

2008-11-16 Thread Ron Johnson

On 11/16/08 20:13, Mitchell Laks wrote:
[snip]


I also can transfer files to my silver ipod nano (generation 3 with 4G ),
however, I also cannot play the set of mp3 files (that are school lectures) 
via the nano.


*Write* the notes as the teacher is lecturing.  You'll learn more 
that way.


Now get off my lawn, you young whippersnapper!!!


meaning that when i look at it in

directory

/mnt/usb/iPod_Control/Music/ 
i see a number of directories
f00 f01 f02 f03 f04 f05 


and i see the following

ls f00
gtkpod041026.mp3  gtkpod288554.mp3  gtkpod561552.mp3  gtkpod783926.mp3
gtkpod224305.mp3  gtkpod295222.mp3  gtkpod742088.mp3  gtkpod799348.mp3
gtkpod255692.mp3  gtkpod529503.mp3  gtkpod776322.mp3

where these were created via gtkpod.

However I see nothing listed in the music database. How can I use
the ipod software to select and listen to them on the ipod?

I can play them using gqmpeg when i am plugged in, but that is
not the same thing...


Maybe these MP3s are of a bit rate that the Nano can't play.  VBR, 
maybe?


I wouldn't actually, know, though, because I don't have an MP3 
player.  And stop speaking away from my ear trumpet!


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Re: iPod Nano

2008-11-16 Thread Jos Collin
Btw, my iPOD problems are solved. I have recompiled gtkpod source code with
libmp4v2. Now I'm able to copy mp3, mp4 videos, photos etc.

Thanks for your help.
- Jos Collin

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Mitchell Laks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On 08:29 Sat 30 Aug , Terence wrote:
> > I've just been given a 2Gb Silver Nano, and although I can copy and
> > delete files on it (using usb connection and Konqueror in Lenny on AMD
> > 64) I have two problems:
> >
> > 1. A mount point is created every time I plug it in ( /media/IPOD,
> > /media/IPOD_ , /media/IPOD__ etc.) and even as root I cannot remove
> > them. Root doesn't have the permissions apparently, although the owner
> > and group for these.
> >
> > 2. I cannot "see" the file transferred to the stand-alone Ipod, but
> > Amorok both sees and plays them when it is plugged in.
> >
>
> I also can transfer files to my silver ipod nano (generation 3 with 4G ),
> however, I also cannot play the set of mp3 files (that are school lectures)
> via the nano.
>
> meaning that when i look at it in
>
> directory
>
> /mnt/usb/iPod_Control/Music/
> i see a number of directories
> f00 f01 f02 f03 f04 f05
>
> and i see the following
>
> ls f00
> gtkpod041026.mp3  gtkpod288554.mp3  gtkpod561552.mp3  gtkpod783926.mp3
> gtkpod224305.mp3  gtkpod295222.mp3  gtkpod742088.mp3  gtkpod799348.mp3
> gtkpod255692.mp3  gtkpod529503.mp3  gtkpod776322.mp3
>
> where these were created via gtkpod.
>
> However I see nothing listed in the music database. How can I use
> the ipod software to select and listen to them on the ipod?
>
> I can play them using gqmpeg when i am plugged in, but that is not the same
> thing...
>
> mitchell
>
>
>
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Re: iPod Nano

2008-11-16 Thread Mitchell Laks
On 08:29 Sat 30 Aug , Terence wrote:
> I've just been given a 2Gb Silver Nano, and although I can copy and
> delete files on it (using usb connection and Konqueror in Lenny on AMD
> 64) I have two problems:
> 
> 1. A mount point is created every time I plug it in ( /media/IPOD,
> /media/IPOD_ , /media/IPOD__ etc.) and even as root I cannot remove
> them. Root doesn't have the permissions apparently, although the owner
> and group for these.
> 
> 2. I cannot "see" the file transferred to the stand-alone Ipod, but
> Amorok both sees and plays them when it is plugged in.
> 

I also can transfer files to my silver ipod nano (generation 3 with 4G ),
however, I also cannot play the set of mp3 files (that are school lectures) 
via the nano.

meaning that when i look at it in

directory

/mnt/usb/iPod_Control/Music/ 
i see a number of directories
f00 f01 f02 f03 f04 f05 

and i see the following

ls f00
gtkpod041026.mp3  gtkpod288554.mp3  gtkpod561552.mp3  gtkpod783926.mp3
gtkpod224305.mp3  gtkpod295222.mp3  gtkpod742088.mp3  gtkpod799348.mp3
gtkpod255692.mp3  gtkpod529503.mp3  gtkpod776322.mp3

where these were created via gtkpod.

However I see nothing listed in the music database. How can I use
the ipod software to select and listen to them on the ipod?

I can play them using gqmpeg when i am plugged in, but that is not the same 
thing...

mitchell
 


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Re: iPod Nano

2008-08-30 Thread Terence
2008/8/30 Terence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I have two problems:
>
> 1. A mount point is created every time I plug it in ( /media/IPOD,
> /media/IPOD_ , /media/IPOD__ etc.) and even as root I cannot remove
> them. Root doesn't have the permissions apparently, although the owner
> and group for these.
>

Further to my previous post these have now been removed (via command
line umounting..)

Duh!

Terence


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Re: iPod Nano

2008-08-30 Thread Terence
2008/8/29 Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 2008-08-29 04:41, Jos Collin wrote:

> I'm a bit surprised that you had to upgrade your lenny to get it done.
>
> It is a real shame, that apple don't deliver it in a workable state, but
> that they make you change some files just to get it work.
>

I don't know, but I really would like to know!

I've just been given a 2Gb Silver Nano, and although I can copy and
delete files on it (using usb connection and Konqueror in Lenny on AMD
64) I have two problems:

1. A mount point is created every time I plug it in ( /media/IPOD,
/media/IPOD_ , /media/IPOD__ etc.) and even as root I cannot remove
them. Root doesn't have the permissions apparently, although the owner
and group for these.

2. I cannot "see" the file transferred to the stand-alone Ipod, but
Amorok both sees and plays them when it is plugged in.

Can anyone help (I've checked the Debian sites and forums, as well as
the major search engines)?

Terence


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Re: iPod Nano

2008-08-29 Thread Jos Collin
Hi Johannes,

I have'nt tried this in mac as I don't have a mac machine. But gtkpod is
still showing 'segmentation fault' in my Desktop (Debian-Etch, amd 64). I
don't know why it is like that. Anyway it works in my laptop (Debian-Lenny,
Intel). When I brought my iPod Nano, I was able to copy some mp3 files using
a Windows machine. I don't understand how it worked without FirewireGuid.

> It is a real shame, that apple don't deliver it in a workable state, but
> that they make you change some files just to get it work.

It is true that most of the products are released without testing in Linux.

Also my iPod Nano shows 7.1 GB remaining space even though it is an 8GB. Any
reasons?

- Jos Collin

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Johannes Wiedersich <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2008-08-29 04:41, Jos Collin wrote:
> > I have upgraded the distribution (lenny) once again and set the
> > 'FirewireGuid' for my iPod Nano. Now the gtkpod starts working.
>
> I'm glad it works for you now. I've just got my classic two days ago,
> and it also took more than one iteration till I typed everything ok. It
> now works with both gtkpod and amarok.
>
> I'm a bit surprised that you had to upgrade your lenny to get it done.
>
> It is a real shame, that apple don't deliver it in a workable state, but
> that they make you change some files just to get it work.
>
> (I'd really like to know, if it works 'out of the box' on macs or if
> those files are modified by their software).
>
> Johannes
>
>


Re: iPod Nano

2008-08-29 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 2008-08-29 04:41, Jos Collin wrote:
> I have upgraded the distribution (lenny) once again and set the
> 'FirewireGuid' for my iPod Nano. Now the gtkpod starts working.

I'm glad it works for you now. I've just got my classic two days ago,
and it also took more than one iteration till I typed everything ok. It
now works with both gtkpod and amarok.

I'm a bit surprised that you had to upgrade your lenny to get it done.

It is a real shame, that apple don't deliver it in a workable state, but
that they make you change some files just to get it work.

(I'd really like to know, if it works 'out of the box' on macs or if
those files are modified by their software).

Johannes



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Re: iPod Nano

2008-08-28 Thread Jos Collin
Hi,

I have upgraded the distribution (lenny) once again and set the
'FirewireGuid' for my iPod Nano. Now the gtkpod starts working.

Thanks,
Jos Collin

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Jos Collin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Johannes,
>
> The model number of the iPod is MB261LL/A
>
> Even if I do [2], amarok crashes when I give the mount point of the iPod in
> settings.
>
> - Jos Collin
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Johannes Wiedersich <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On 08/13/2008 03:17 PM, Jos Collin wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I brought a new iPod Nano recently. Which is the best tool to copy files
>> > from my PC to the iPod? I have tried gtkpod, but it is not detecting the
>> > iPod.
>>
>> Which version of libgpod are you using?
>>
>> Is your iPod on this list [1]?
>>
>> Have you read [2] and applied (if applicable)?
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Johannes
>>
>> [1] http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods
>> [2]
>>
>> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod#My_iPod_does_not_show_any_music
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: iPod Nano

2008-08-14 Thread Jos Collin
Hi Johannes,

The model number of the iPod is MB261LL/A

Even if I do [2], amarok crashes when I give the mount point of the iPod in
settings.

- Jos Collin

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Johannes Wiedersich <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 08/13/2008 03:17 PM, Jos Collin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I brought a new iPod Nano recently. Which is the best tool to copy files
> > from my PC to the iPod? I have tried gtkpod, but it is not detecting the
> > iPod.
>
> Which version of libgpod are you using?
>
> Is your iPod on this list [1]?
>
> Have you read [2] and applied (if applicable)?
>
> HTH,
>
> Johannes
>
> [1] http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods
> [2]
>
> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod#My_iPod_does_not_show_any_music
>
>
>


Re: iPod Nano

2008-08-13 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
On 08/13/2008 03:17 PM, Jos Collin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I brought a new iPod Nano recently. Which is the best tool to copy files
> from my PC to the iPod? I have tried gtkpod, but it is not detecting the
> iPod.

Which version of libgpod are you using?

Is your iPod on this list [1]?

Have you read [2] and applied (if applicable)?

HTH,

Johannes

[1] http://gtkpod.wikispaces.com/Supported+iPods
[2]
http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod#My_iPod_does_not_show_any_music




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Re: iPod Nano

2008-08-13 Thread Jos Collin
amarok also has the same problem. It crashes when I specify the mount point
of the IPod in "Configure amarok". The following is the error message.


 DEBUG INFORMATION  ===
Version:1.4.4
Engine: xine-engine
Build date: Feb 18 2007
CC version: 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)
KDElibs:3.5.5
Qt: 3.3.7
TagLib: 1.4.0
CPU count:  2
NDEBUG: true
 file `which amarokapp` ===
/usr/bin/amarokapp: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux
2.6.0, stripped


 (gdb) bt =
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 47608599295216 (LWP 2894)]
[New Thread 1115703648 (LWP 2925)]
[New Thread 1107310944 (LWP 2924)]
[New Thread 1098918240 (LWP 2923)]
[New Thread 1090525536 (LWP 2922)]
[New Thread 1082132832 (LWP 2921)]
0x2b4cb928d74f in waitpid () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x2b4cb928d74f in waitpid () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x0040593d in Amarok::Crash::crashHandler ()
#2  0x2b4cb922b110 in killpg () from /lib/libc.so.6
#3  0x in ?? ()
#0  0x2b4cb928d74f in waitpid () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x0040593d in Amarok::Crash::crashHandler ()
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x2b4cb922b110 in killpg () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#3  0x in ?? ()
No symbol table info available.
 (gdb) thread apply all bt 
Thread 6 (Thread 1082132832 (LWP 2921)):
#0  0x2b4cbb98dd2f in pthread_cond_timedwait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x2ad503f3 in _x_metronom_init () from /usr/lib/libxine.so.1
#2  0x2b4cbb98af1a in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  0x2b4cb92c55d2 in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x in ?? ()
Thread 5 (Thread 1090525536 (LWP 2922)):
#0  0x2b4cb92bccc6 in poll () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x2d2ff9ed in ?? () from
/usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.2/xineplug_ao_out_alsa.so
#2  0x2b4cbb98af1a in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  0x2b4cb92c55d2 in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
#4  0x in ?? ()
Thread 4 (Thread 1098918240 (LWP 2923)):
#0  0x2b4cbb98db3a in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x2ad5d98d in _x_ao_channels2mode () from /usr/lib/libxine.so.1
#2  0x2ad5f61a in xine_get_next_audio_frame () from
/usr/lib/libxine.so.1
#3  0x2b4cbb98af1a in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x2b4cb92c55d2 in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x in ?? ()
Thread 3 (Thread 1107310944 (LWP 2924)):
#0  0x2b4cbb98db3a in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x2ad53792 in _x_dummy_fifo_buffer_new () from
/usr/lib/libxine.so.1
#2  0x2ad59ad1 in _x_audio_decoder_init () from
/usr/lib/libxine.so.1
#3  0x2b4cbb98af1a in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x2b4cb92c55d2 in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x in ?? ()
Thread 2 (Thread 1115703648 (LWP 2925)):
#0  0x2b4cbb98db3a in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from
/lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x2ad61e8b in xine_event_wait () from /usr/lib/libxine.so.1
#2  0x2ad61f05 in xine_event_wait () from /usr/lib/libxine.so.1
#3  0x2b4cbb98af1a in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#4  0x2b4cb92c55d2 in clone () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x in ?? ()
Thread 1 (Thread 47608599295216 (LWP 2894)):
#0  0x2b4cb928d74f in waitpid () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x0040593d in Amarok::Crash::crashHandler ()
#2  0x2b4cb922b110 in killpg () from /lib/libc.so.6
#3  0x in ?? ()
#0  0x2b4cb928d74f in waitpid () from /lib/libc.so.6


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On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:14 PM, kj <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jos Collin wrote:
>
>> I brought a new iPod Nano recently. Which is the best tool to copy files
>> from my PC to the iPod? I have tried gtkpod, but it is not detecting the
>> iPod.
>>
>
> I used amarok.  My music was already in it, and when I plugged my iPod Nano
> (the previous version though), it picked it straight up.
>
> --kj
>
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