Re: kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 in SID
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 05:10:38AM -0500, Fraser Campbell wrote: On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 03:28, Rob Weir wrote: That's due to the fact that this kernel is precompiled in the package, and 2.95.4 was the version used by the maintainer. But shouldn't it be compiled with gcc 3.2? Well, ideally, but it was built on (presumably) Herbert's workstation, which apparently is still using gcc 2.95 as the default gcc. The GCC 3.2 transition just means that the buildd's (build daemons, that build The kernel developers tell you which gcc to use. They recommend 2.95.3, apparently Debian is already pushing the envelope by using 2.95.4 ;-) - Make sure you have gcc 2.95.3 available. gcc 2.91.66 (egcs-1.1.2) may also work but is not as safe, and *gcc 2.7.2.3 is no longer supported*. Heh, true. I've been struggling with building a new usagified kernel for my gateway, and it oopses on boot when I use gcc 3.2. 2.95.4 works great. Either way, it seems like Debian is just doing the Right Thing, as always ;) -- Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://ertius.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 in SID
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 09:23:48PM +0200, Mpiktas wrote: Hi, As far as I understand the default compiler for sid is gcc 3.2. Today I installed kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 from sid and cat /proc/version shows Linux version 2.4.20-k7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Tue Jan 14 00:29:06 EST 2003 That's due to the fact that this kernel is precompiled in the package, and 2.95.4 was the version used by the maintainer. But shouldn't it be compiled with gcc 3.2? Well, ideally, but it was built on (presumably) Herbert's workstation, which apparently is still using gcc 2.95 as the default gcc. The GCC 3.2 transition just means that the buildd's (build daemons, that build the vast majority of the Debian binary packages) started using gcc 3.2 as default; I think some stuff is still built with 2.95 even on the buildd's, but that would require deliberate intervention. I was running mixed woody/sid Debian (Gnome2 from sid, everything else from woody) and I dist-upgraded solely for reason that all my programs would be compiled using the same compiler. Why do you care what program your software is compiled with? Aside from the G++ issues, you shouldn't even be able to tell (aside from the mythical speed improvements of gcc 3.2). Now for example I tried to compile nvidia-kernel and it began complaining about compiler. I had to set $CC=gcc-2.95 to compile it correctly. OK. But I suppose this should not be this way? No, it shouldn't, but Nvidia release stupid binary drivers under a moronic license. Complain to them. If they release proper Free drivers, then there wouldn't be this compilation issue. In fact, you wouldn't need to compile anything, since it could be merged into the kernel and XFree86. Oh yeah, and then it would work on more than ONE architecture of the ELEVEN that Debian supports. Or am I missing something here? Have you read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz? It explains exactly what to do. -- Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://ertius.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 in SID
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 04:22:50PM +0200, Mpiktas wrote: Hi, As far as I understand the default compiler for sid is gcc 3.2. Today I installed kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 from sid and cat /proc/version shows Linux version 2.4.20-k7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Tue Jan 14 00:29:06 EST 2003 Am I missing something? Hm, I'd assume that's right, since for me it says: Linux version 2.4.20ck3+skas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2.3 20030210 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Tue Feb 25 01:23:43 EST 2003 That's custom built right here, using that very version of GCC. -- Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://ertius.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 in SID
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 03:28, Rob Weir wrote: That's due to the fact that this kernel is precompiled in the package, and 2.95.4 was the version used by the maintainer. But shouldn't it be compiled with gcc 3.2? Well, ideally, but it was built on (presumably) Herbert's workstation, which apparently is still using gcc 2.95 as the default gcc. The GCC 3.2 transition just means that the buildd's (build daemons, that build The kernel developers tell you which gcc to use. They recommend 2.95.3, apparently Debian is already pushing the envelope by using 2.95.4 ;-) - Make sure you have gcc 2.95.3 available. gcc 2.91.66 (egcs-1.1.2) may also work but is not as safe, and *gcc 2.7.2.3 is no longer supported*. -- Fraser Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://wehave.net/ Brampton, Ontario, CanadaDebian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 in SID
Hi, As far as I understand the default compiler for sid is gcc 3.2. Today I installed kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 from sid and cat /proc/version shows Linux version 2.4.20-k7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Tue Jan 14 00:29:06 EST 2003 Am I missing something? Thanks for your answers Mpiktas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 in SID
Hi, As far as I understand the default compiler for sid is gcc 3.2. Today I installed kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 from sid and cat /proc/version shows Linux version 2.4.20-k7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Tue Jan 14 00:29:06 EST 2003 Am I missing something? Thanks for your answers Mpiktas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 in SID
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Mpiktas wrote: As far as I understand the default compiler for sid is gcc 3.2. Today I installed kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 from sid and cat /proc/version shows Linux version 2.4.20-k7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Tue Jan 14 00:29:06 EST 2003 That's due to the fact that this kernel is precompiled in the package, and 2.95.4 was the version used by the maintainer. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 in SID
Hi, As far as I understand the default compiler for sid is gcc 3.2. Today I installed kernel-image-2.4.20-k7 from sid and cat /proc/version shows Linux version 2.4.20-k7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) #1 Tue Jan 14 00:29:06 EST 2003 That's due to the fact that this kernel is precompiled in the package, and 2.95.4 was the version used by the maintainer. But shouldn't it be compiled with gcc 3.2? I was running mixed woody/sid Debian (Gnome2 from sid, everything else from woody) and I dist-upgraded solely for reason that all my programs would be compiled using the same compiler. Now for example I tried to compile nvidia-kernel and it began complaining about compiler. I had to set $CC=gcc-2.95 to compile it correctly. But I suppose this should not be this way? Or am I missing something here? Mpiktas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]