Re: kernel 2.4 - modutils
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you about this. The modutils build for potato to use kernel 2.4.0 is at http://locust.lcs.mit.edu/~noahm/modutils/ It was built on an up to date potato system, and should install on yours without any problems. noah On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:16:59PM +0100, Hans wrote: At 05:07 PM 1/5/01 -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:54:00PM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 04:42:20PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote: You need to be using at least modutils 2.3.23 or 2.3.24 for the new kernel to work correctly... Ultimately, you'll want to be using modutils 2.4.0 once its out. Ugh, version in testing is 2.3.11-13.1. Would it be possible to get the source packages for modutils from unstable and just recompile them (with my current 2.2.18 kernel that is)? Yes, apt-get source -b modutils will do it (assuming unstable has an deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list). Can you, or anybody else put this deb on a site for downloading. I have a box that is not on the (inter)net. Thanks -- Hans --- It's nice to be liked, but better by far to get paid -- Liz Phair -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgpASFNYbMPAm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel 2.4, modutils requires libc6 2.1.97
** Jameson C. Burt wrote on Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 01:33:00AM -0500: ** Does an upgrade of libc6 from version 2.1.3 to 2.1.97 largely work? But more, I no longer see libc6 version 2.1.97, so I must go all the way to libc6 version libc6_2.2-5 in woody. Oh my, I have heard people having problems with libc6 version 2.2: are there problems upgrading to libc6_2.2? I upgraded to libc6_2.2 some days ago, and I never had (and have!) any problemes. Greetings Erich
kernel 2.4, modutils requires libc6 2.1.97
All suggestions for using kernel 2.4 mention upgrading to modutils in either woody or sid, for modutils version 2.3.22 or 2.3.23. However, these have the dependency Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.97) Since I largely keep a potato distribution, I use libc6 version libc6_2.1.3-13 so an upgrade would require upgrading to a woody libc6 version. This flashes a WARNING to me, since libc is very foundational; indeed, a few Debian distributions back, most distribution upgrades failed because of libc changes. Does an upgrade of libc6 from version 2.1.3 to 2.1.97 largely work? But more, I no longer see libc6 version 2.1.97, so I must go all the way to libc6 version libc6_2.2-5 in woody. Oh my, I have heard people having problems with libc6 version 2.2: are there problems upgrading to libc6_2.2? Perhaps my best solution would compile modutils version myself. Besides, I now notice that the kernel source linux-2.4.0.tar.bz2 document .../Documentation/Changes has upped the modutils version requirement from 2.3.15 (in linux-2.4.0-test8) to modutils version 2.4.0 (in linux-2.4.0) which appears nowhere, not even in the .../pool/* directories. -- Jameson C. Burt, NJ9L Fairfax, Virginia, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.coost.com (202) 690-0380 (work) You can only find truth with logic if you have already found truth without it. -- G.K. Chesterton
Re: kernel 2.4, modutils requires libc6 2.1.97
I would like to hear some more details from the maintainer(s)... I've needed to install 'locales' and 'i18n' during this process. I have several machines which are in this state, and I've broken the equivelent number, trying this. I just waiting for woody to become 'stable'. Paul Jameson wrote: All suggestions for using kernel 2.4 mention upgrading to modutils in either woody or sid, for modutils version 2.3.22 or 2.3.23. However, these have the dependency Depends: libc6 (= 2.1.97) Since I largely keep a potato distribution, I use libc6 version libc6_2.1.3-13 so an upgrade would require upgrading to a woody libc6 version. This flashes a WARNING to me, since libc is very foundational; indeed, a few Debian distributions back, most distribution upgrades failed because of libc changes. Does an upgrade of libc6 from version 2.1.3 to 2.1.97 largely work? But more, I no longer see libc6 version 2.1.97, so I must go all the way to libc6 version libc6_2.2-5 in woody. Oh my, I have heard people having problems with libc6 version 2.2: are there problems upgrading to libc6_2.2? Perhaps my best solution would compile modutils version myself. Besides, I now notice that the kernel source linux-2.4.0.tar.bz2 document .../Documentation/Changes has upped the modutils version requirement from 2.3.15 (in linux-2.4.0-test8) to modutils version 2.4.0 (in linux-2.4.0) which appears nowhere, not even in the .../pool/* directories.
Re: kernel 2.4 - modutils
At 05:07 PM 1/5/01 -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:54:00PM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 04:42:20PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote: You need to be using at least modutils 2.3.23 or 2.3.24 for the new kernel to work correctly... Ultimately, you'll want to be using modutils 2.4.0 once its out. Ugh, version in testing is 2.3.11-13.1. Would it be possible to get the source packages for modutils from unstable and just recompile them (with my current 2.2.18 kernel that is)? Yes, apt-get source -b modutils will do it (assuming unstable has an deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list). Can you, or anybody else put this deb on a site for downloading. I have a box that is not on the (inter)net. Thanks -- Hans --- It's nice to be liked, but better by far to get paid -- Liz Phair
Re: kernel 2.4, modutils requires libc6 2.1.97
On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Jameson C. Burt wrote: [..] This flashes a WARNING to me, since libc is very foundational; indeed, a few Debian distributions back, most distribution upgrades failed because of libc changes. Does an upgrade of libc6 from version 2.1.3 to 2.1.97 largely work? [..] Perhaps my best solution would compile modutils version myself. You got it ! :) Besides, I now notice that the kernel source linux-2.4.0.tar.bz2 document .../Documentation/Changes has upped the modutils version requirement from 2.3.15 (in linux-2.4.0-test8) to modutils version 2.4.0 (in linux-2.4.0) which appears nowhere, not even in the .../pool/* directories. Actually, modutils 2.4.0 doesn't even exist (as far as I could find out, I could be mistaken) ! I'm just trying out the one from testing... seems more then ok.
kernel 2.4 - modutils
If I'm running testing (upgraded from Potato, so none of the pre-testing woody stuff), do I need an updated modutils for kernel 2.4 to work correctly? -Rob
Re: kernel 2.4 - modutils
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 04:42:20PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote: You need to be using at least modutils 2.3.23 or 2.3.24 for the new kernel to work correctly... Ultimately, you'll want to be using modutils 2.4.0 once its out. Ugh, version in testing is 2.3.11-13.1. Would it be possible to get the source packages for modutils from unstable and just recompile them (with my current 2.2.18 kernel that is)? -Rob
Re: kernel 2.4 - modutils
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:54:00PM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 04:42:20PM -0500, Alec Smith wrote: You need to be using at least modutils 2.3.23 or 2.3.24 for the new kernel to work correctly... Ultimately, you'll want to be using modutils 2.4.0 once its out. Ugh, version in testing is 2.3.11-13.1. Would it be possible to get the source packages for modutils from unstable and just recompile them (with my current 2.2.18 kernel that is)? Yes, apt-get source -b modutils will do it (assuming unstable has an deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list). Let me warn you about something that bit me twice in just over a week. If you don't have bison and flex installed (there may be more for all I know) the modutils .deb will happily build itself but it won't contain certain crucial programs like /sbin/genksyms. This will result in bad things happening. It annoyed me to such a great degree that I actually looked in to what it would take to bolt build-dependencies on to apt-get...but that's another story. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgpzlRRPL6Hhr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel 2.4 - modutils
On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:07:28 -0500 Noah L. Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:54:00PM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote: Yes, apt-get source -b modutils will do it (assuming unstable has an deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list). I just changed my /etc/apt/sources.list to point to unstable (as opposed to Woody which I normally use) and did apt-get install modutils. I got the new version and no other packages. Modules from 2.4.0 now install correctly. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux 2000
