Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 27)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.19 on a Debian 2.2r7 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. The updated kernel packages contain a fix for a i386 DoS attack that allows every user to crash the computer [2]. If you run older kernels on a computer where you don't fully trust all users it's highly recommended to upgrade the kernel. Changes in this release: + added: kernel-image-2.4.19-i386 Binary packages: o kernel-headers-2.4.19 o kernel-headers-2.4.19-386 o kernel-headers-2.4.19-586tsc o kernel-headers-2.4.19-686 o kernel-headers-2.4.19-686-smp o kernel-headers-2.4.19-k6 o kernel-headers-2.4.19-k7 o kernel-headers-2.4.19-k7-smp o kernel-image-2.4-386 o kernel-image-2.4-586tsc o kernel-image-2.4-686 o kernel-image-2.4-686-smp o kernel-image-2.4-k6 o kernel-image-2.4-k7 o kernel-image-2.4-k7-smp o kernel-image-2.4.19-386 o kernel-image-2.4.19-586tsc o kernel-image-2.4.19-686 o kernel-image-2.4.19-686-smp o kernel-image-2.4.19-k6 o kernel-image-2.4.19-k7 o kernel-image-2.4.19-k7-smp o kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.19-386 o kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.19-586tsc o kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.19-686 o kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.19-686-smp o kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.19-k6 o kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.19-k7 o kernel-pcmcia-modules-2.4.19-k7-smp + added: kernel-source-2.4.19 Binary packages: o kernel-doc-2.4.19 o kernel-source-2.4.19 + updated: initrd-tools (0.1.21 -> 0.1.32woody.2) + included blockdev in util-linux + removed: kernel-image-2.4.18-i386 + removed: kernel-source-2.4.18 cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html [2] http://security-archive.merton.ox.ac.uk/bugtraq-200211/0192.html -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 26)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.18 on a Debian 2.2r6 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. My packages will be available and and I'll make changes to them if needed at least as long as Debian gives support (especially regarding security fixes) for potato (which will most likely be a few months after the release of Debian 3.0) but don't expect them to be available much longer. Changes in this release: + updated: hotplug (0.0.20010424-2 -> 0.0.20020114-7) + updated: kernel-image-2.4.18-i386 (2.4.18-4 -> 2.4.18-5) + updated: kernel-source-2.4.18 (2.4.18-4 -> 2.4.18-5) + updated: modutils (2.4.6-3 -> 2.4.15-1) cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 25)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.18 on a Debian 2.2r6 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. Changes in this release: + added: acpid + added: jfsutils + added: raidtools2 + updated: pcmcia-cs (3.1.29-4 -> 3.1.33-6) + updated: reiserfsprogs (3.x.0j-1 -> 3.x.1b-1) + updated: xfsprogs (1.3.16-1 -> 2.0.3-1) cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.x
> I used to download Bunk's stuff to get kernel 2.4.x. bunk's packages are still available: deb http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian potato main > Now where can I find the deb packages with, for instance, kernel > 2.4.18 (is out isn't it?)? i usually download them using the forms at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages you can get the debs from any branch, then install them with dpkg. kernel sources don't have many library dependencies :-) pietro. (ma guarda te se dobbiamo parlarci in inglese :-)
kernel 2.4.x
I used to download Bunk's stuff to get kernel 2.4.x. Now where can I find the deb packages with, for instance, kernel 2.4.18 (is out isn't it?)? Ciao Vittorio
Re: pppoe and kernel 2.4.x
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 07:06:09PM +0100, Frodo Baggins wrote: > Hi debianers, > well, I have a debian system connected to a ISP using > pppoe. Everithing works well with the 2.2.x kernels, but for different > reasons, I need to install a 2.4.x kernel. > > Reading the file /usr/doc/pppoe/KERNEL-MODE-PPPOE I understand that > I must recompile ppp from the tar-ball at > http://www.shoshin.uwaterloo.ca/~mostrows/ which is a patched ppp, > install it and then compiling rp-pppoe enabling plugins. > > This look strightforward but will obviously clash with the package > structure of my machine. Just for one, intrusion-detection tools > (e.g. tiger) will complain about unmatching cecksums. For another, > updating will become painful. > > Is there another, more debian conformant, way to do it? > > Thanks a lot Unfortunatelly, pppd does not support kernel mode pppoe in Debian. You can still use regular user space pppoe without any problems.. If you really want a kernel mode pppoe, I have submitted a bug with the patch from http://www.shoshin.uwaterloo.ca/~mostrows/ (in BTS as wishlish for ppp). The patch is about 100kB! :) My patch is a bit buggy though as if you try to build pppd with it, the plugin will end up in the right directory but pppd will search in a different one -- to overcome that you'll have to specify the full path to the pppoe plugin. Then changing the dsl-provider by commenting out the pty pppoe etc.. I was able to start kernel mode dsl with pppd eth0 call dsl-provider as described on the website. Works very nice for me on a 486 box.. There is a noticible increase in performance especially when the box is loaded -- much better network transit times. The load due to pppoe also decreased from about 80% for full bandwidth usage down to about 40%.. I will be testing it for stability for the next few months but it looks very promissing. PPP really should support kernel mode PPPoE for woody as there is no harm for bootfloppies [simply not included there] or for regular pppd as pppoe is a plugin that doesn't have to be enabled. Anyway, this is just my 2 cents. BTW, I have 2.4.18 with kernel mode pppoe as module [but I'll link it in kernel soon since it's on all the time anyway] - Adam PS. Maybe if people demand it, I could fix my patch and increase the severity of the bug so hopefully the maintainer will notice it and include it before it's too late :)
Re: pppoe and kernel 2.4.x
On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 07:06:09PM +0100, Frodo Baggins wrote: > Hi debianers, > well, I have a debian system connected to a ISP using > pppoe. Everithing works well with the 2.2.x kernels, but for different > reasons, I need to install a 2.4.x kernel. > > Reading the file /usr/doc/pppoe/KERNEL-MODE-PPPOE I understand that > I must recompile ppp from the tar-ball at > http://www.shoshin.uwaterloo.ca/~mostrows/ which is a patched ppp, > install it and then compiling rp-pppoe enabling plugins. Actually, I never read that. I had been running woody with kernel 2.4.10 for a while when I got a DSL connection. I simply apt-get'ed the debian pppoe package, did some easy config (see /usr/doc/pppoe/README.debian) and, IT WORKED. HTH, Joachim -- Joachim Fahnenmüller Lehrer für Mathematik und Physik Herder-Gymnasium Kattowitzer Straße 52 51065 Köln
Re: pppoe and kernel 2.4.x
On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 19:06, Frodo Baggins wrote: > Is there another, more debian conformant, way to do it? Yes : use the Debian ppp and pppoe packages. This way, you shall run pppoe purely in user mode instead of using the kernel module which is still rather developmental as far as I have read. You look suspisciously french to me, so it will certainly be of interest to you that the stock Debian pppoe and ppp package work fine with Netissimo. I currently use it to connect to Nerim through an Alcatel 1000. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
pppoe and kernel 2.4.x
Hi debianers, well, I have a debian system connected to a ISP using pppoe. Everithing works well with the 2.2.x kernels, but for different reasons, I need to install a 2.4.x kernel. Reading the file /usr/doc/pppoe/KERNEL-MODE-PPPOE I understand that I must recompile ppp from the tar-ball at http://www.shoshin.uwaterloo.ca/~mostrows/ which is a patched ppp, install it and then compiling rp-pppoe enabling plugins. This look strightforward but will obviously clash with the package structure of my machine. Just for one, intrusion-detection tools (e.g. tiger) will complain about unmatching cecksums. For another, updating will become painful. Is there another, more debian conformant, way to do it? Thanks a lot -- Leo TheHobbit IRCnet #roma2 ICQ 56656060 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GED/CS d? s-:++ a+ C++ UL+++ P+++>+ E+ W++ N+ o K? !w O? M V PS+++ PE-- Y+ PPG+ t++ 5? X-- R+ tv+ b+++ DI? D G++ e*() h r++ y+++(*) --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- ++
WAS-> Re: digital camera reccomendations for debian NOW-> kernel 2.4.x
--- nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Gphoto2 allegedly supports my Canon PowerShot G2, > but I never got > > it to work; gphoto2 just insisted the camera > wasn't there. > > hmm, good to know, i guess the info there isn't too > reliable. > > > Fortunately, I found a better solution anyway. The > G2 uses compact > > flash (CF) cards for storage, and for $20 or so > you can buy a USB > > reader for these CF cards. The CF reader looks to > Linux like a > > removable SCSI drive, so you just put the card in > it, mount the > > card as a VFAT filesystem, and copy the files off > of it. No gphoto > > required. Though of course your kernel has to have > decent USB > > support, so I don't know if a 2.2 kernel would do. > > > > if this is the usb-storage driver it doesn't appear > to > be in 2.2.x ..so i can't use it.. > > > > > Consult Digital Photography Review at > http://www.dpreview.com for > > expert reviews and user opinions of a wide variety > of digital > > cameras. > > > > The PowerShot S300, according to DP Review, uses > CF card storage, > > so the card reader trick I mentioned above should > work if your > > system has good USB support. > > yeah..cept i can't use 2.4.x kernel! too unstable > for > my needs. > > <> Pardon me if this is "hijacking the thread", but why is 2.4.x too unstable? Are you planning on using the digital camera w/ a server under high load? The only problems I've seen w/ 2.4.x occur under extremely high load, a situation that is unlikely to occur on the average desktop machine or laptop. Once I got sid switched over to 2.4.x it has been very nice on my laptop. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ date; uname -a; uptime Sat Feb 16 08:05:25 EST 2002 Linux voyager 2.4.17-686 #2 Sat Dec 22 21:58:49 EST 2001 i686 unknown 08:05:25 up 6 days, 8:39, 4 users, load average: 0.06, 0.37, 0.94 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hacking is a "Good Thing!" See http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 23)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.17 on a Debian 2.2r5 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. Changes in this release: + fixed the bug that isdnutils erased /etc/services if you were affected by this bug copy the file you can find at [2] to /etc/services Sorry for any inconveniences caused by this bug! + updated: ksymoops (2.4.0-1 -> 2.4.3-1.1) cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html [2] http://people.debian.org/~bunk/services
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 22)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.17 on a Debian 2.2r4 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. Changes since the last release: + added: kernel-image-2.4.17-i386 Binary packages: o kernel-headers-2.4.17 o kernel-headers-2.4.17-386 o kernel-headers-2.4.17-586tsc o kernel-headers-2.4.17-686 o kernel-headers-2.4.17-686-smp o kernel-headers-2.4.17-k6 o kernel-headers-2.4.17-k7 o kernel-image-2.4.17-386 o kernel-image-2.4.17-586tsc o kernel-image-2.4.17-686 o kernel-image-2.4.17-686-smp o kernel-image-2.4.17-k6 o kernel-image-2.4.17-k7 + added: kernel-source-2.4.17 Binary packages: o kernel-doc-2.4.17 o kernel-source-2.4.17 o mkcramfs + added: xfsprogs Binary packages: o xfslibs-dev o xfsprogs + updated: e2fsprogs (1.22-1 -> 1.25-1) + updated: isdnutils (1:3.1pre1b-8 -> 1:3.1pre1b-27) + updated: modconf (0.2.32 -> 0.2.39) + updated: pcmcia-cs (3.1.27-2 -> 3.1.29-4) + removed: kernel-image-2.4.14-i386 + removed: kernel-source-2.4.14 cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 21)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.14 on a Debian 2.2r4 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. Changes since the last release: + there are now alpha packages compiled by Fabrice Haberer-Proust + added: kernel-image-2.4.14-i386 Binary packages: o kernel-headers-2.4.14 o kernel-headers-2.4.14-386 o kernel-headers-2.4.14-586 o kernel-headers-2.4.14-586tsc o kernel-headers-2.4.14-686 o kernel-headers-2.4.14-686-smp o kernel-headers-2.4.14-k6 o kernel-headers-2.4.14-k7 o kernel-image-2.4.14-386 o kernel-image-2.4.14-586 o kernel-image-2.4.14-586tsc o kernel-image-2.4.14-686 o kernel-image-2.4.14-686-smp o kernel-image-2.4.14-k6 o kernel-image-2.4.14-k7 + added: kernel-source-2.4.14 Binary packages: o kernel-doc-2.4.14 o kernel-source-2.4.14 o mkcramfs + removed: kernel-image-2.4.13-i386 + removed: kernel-source-2.4.13 cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Get my GPG key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | gpg --import Fingerprint: B29C E71E FE19 6755 5C8A 84D4 99FC EA98 4F12 B400
Problems with ppp after upgrade to kernel 2.4.X
Hi everybody! This weekend I upgraded my server from potato to woody. Everything worked fine. Then I upgraded my kernel from 2.2.14 to 2.4.13. And after that I run into great problems with my ppp link. In the syslog I get sometimes "VJ decompression error" and when I watch a the interface with "ifconfig ppp0" I get somethin like this ppp0 RX packets:29 errors:16 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:43 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 At last the half of the received packets have an error. Sometimes I get a realy fine connection with no errors, but most connections are bad. And when I switch back to the 2.2.14 kernel all runs fine again!?!?! I tried other 2.4 kernels (2.4.0 and 2.4.1) and got the same problems. Additional I have a hylafax server running on this modem, but it doesn't make a difference if the server is running or not. I can submit and receive faxes without any problem, so it seems, that the modem and the serial connection to the modem are ok. Could this be an incompatibility between some of my isp dial in servers and the 2.4 kernel? Here my hard and software configuration: IBM thinkpad 380E Elsa microlink office modem german t-online isp kernel 2.4.13 pppd 2.4.1.uus hylafax 4.1beta2 Thanks in advance for your help!! mfg Markus Braun -- Linux is like a Wigwam. No Windows, no Gates, and an Apache inside. - Markus Braunfon & fax: 07453/930851 Gartenstrasse 6 \|/email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 72227 Egenhausen(o o) homepage: www.krawel.de -oOo-(_)-oOo- GnuPG Key: 0x1A5A7357 / C1CE DC19 B189 1712 419C 3944 6FA4 8F01 1A5A 7357
Re: Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 20)
I have installed Debian potato 2.2r3 with kernel 2.2.19 and I have a Teles 16.3c PnP Isdn card... With kernel 2.2.19 it works ok and I see in the syslog messages that the card is successfully detected and that the HISAX driver is loaded ending with 2 channels added Install your packages with kernel 2.4.9 but kompiled the kernel myself compiling in the same modules as in 2.2.19. But during boot it looks like modules.conf file isn't read and HISAX fails.. but I have no other problems with the 2.4.9 kernel. System works ok except from the problems detecting my ISDN card. Have not tried to download modutils-2.4.9 but used modutils-2.4.6 with kernel-source-2.4.9 I have tried to compile the kernel-source approximately 10 times with different options to see if my ISDN card is detected but no success so far.. Kjell Helge - Original Message - From: "Adrian Bunk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kjell Helge Strøm (Online)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: Re: Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 20) On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Kjell Helge Strøm (Online) wrote: > I order to compile the kernel source ...should not an upgraded version of > modutils also be added to your package list ? I've heard of problems with the new modutils and old 2.4.x kernels but I haven't heard of problems with older 2.4.y modutils and recent 2.4.x kernels. What kind of problems do you observe? > Kjell Helge cu Adrian -- Get my GPG key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | gpg --import Fingerprint: B29C E71E FE19 6755 5C8A 84D4 99FC EA98 4F12 B400
Re: Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 20)
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Kjell Helge Strøm (Online) wrote: > I order to compile the kernel source ...should not an upgraded version of > modutils also be added to your package list ? I've heard of problems with the new modutils and old 2.4.x kernels but I haven't heard of problems with older 2.4.y modutils and recent 2.4.x kernels. What kind of problems do you observe? > Kjell Helge cu Adrian -- Get my GPG key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | gpg --import Fingerprint: B29C E71E FE19 6755 5C8A 84D4 99FC EA98 4F12 B400
Re: Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 20)
I order to compile the kernel source ...should not an upgraded version of modutils also be added to your package list ? Kjell Helge - Original Message - From: "Adrian Bunk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 6:45 AM Subject: Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 20) > > I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.13 on a > Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. > > Changes since the last release: > > + added: i2c > Binary package: >o i2c-source > + added: kernel-image-2.4.13-i386 > Binary packages: >o kernel-headers-2.4.13 >o kernel-headers-2.4.13-386 >o kernel-headers-2.4.13-586 >o kernel-headers-2.4.13-586tsc >o kernel-headers-2.4.13-686 >o kernel-headers-2.4.13-686-smp >o kernel-headers-2.4.13-k6 >o kernel-image-2.4.13-386 >o kernel-image-2.4.13-586 >o kernel-image-2.4.13-586tsc >o kernel-image-2.4.13-686 >o kernel-image-2.4.13-686-smp >o kernel-image-2.4.13-k6 > + added: kernel-source-2.4.13 > Binary packages: >o kernel-doc-2.4.13 >o kernel-source-2.4.13 >o mkcramfs > + added: lvm-common > + added: lvm10 > + added: psmisc > + updated: initrd-tools (0.1.11 -> 0.1.13) > + removed: kernel-image-2.4.9-i386 > + removed: kernel-source-2.4.9 > > > cu > Adrian > > [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html > > > -- > > Get my GPG key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | gpg --import > > Fingerprint: B29C E71E FE19 6755 5C8A 84D4 99FC EA98 4F12 B400 > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 20)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.13 on a Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. Changes since the last release: + added: i2c Binary package: o i2c-source + added: kernel-image-2.4.13-i386 Binary packages: o kernel-headers-2.4.13 o kernel-headers-2.4.13-386 o kernel-headers-2.4.13-586 o kernel-headers-2.4.13-586tsc o kernel-headers-2.4.13-686 o kernel-headers-2.4.13-686-smp o kernel-headers-2.4.13-k6 o kernel-image-2.4.13-386 o kernel-image-2.4.13-586 o kernel-image-2.4.13-586tsc o kernel-image-2.4.13-686 o kernel-image-2.4.13-686-smp o kernel-image-2.4.13-k6 + added: kernel-source-2.4.13 Binary packages: o kernel-doc-2.4.13 o kernel-source-2.4.13 o mkcramfs + added: lvm-common + added: lvm10 + added: psmisc + updated: initrd-tools (0.1.11 -> 0.1.13) + removed: kernel-image-2.4.9-i386 + removed: kernel-source-2.4.9 cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Get my GPG key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | gpg --import Fingerprint: B29C E71E FE19 6755 5C8A 84D4 99FC EA98 4F12 B400
LILO + Kernel 2.4.x still not booting
Hi, After trying several suggestions from the people here, I've now explicitly built a kernel with initrd and ram disk support. I've created the kernel package using: make-kpkg --initrd -rev Custom.4 kernel_image After installing it put the initrd-2.4.12-ac6 into /boot I've created a symlink to it named /boot/initrd I've added the line initrd=/boot/initrd to lilo.conf and ran lilo (All this running 2.2.19pre17 and latest packages from testing) But it still doesn't boot. Now there are more dot's appearing after the LILO, but after they finish the machine still resets! 2.2.19pre17 is running fine. BTW, maybe this matters: I have a VIA C3 800 on a Shuttle FV24 board with integrated Savage4, ethernet, soundcard etc... I didn't yet have the time to try to make a boot floppy ... I would be gratfull for any further suggestions. Many thanks in advance! best regards, Balazs
Solved-> Re: PS/2 mouse problems with kernel 2.4.x
Hi all, On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 01:11:45PM -0500 , Michael Heldebrant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2001-10-06 at 21:14, Torsten Kersting wrote: > > im running woody/sid and did an update yesterday, since then I cant get > > my mouse to work with a 2.4.x kernel anymore. Its a PS/2 mouse that works [...] > > /usr/src/linux/.config: > > # Mice > > # > > # CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set > > CONFIG_MOUSE=y > > CONFIG_PSMOUSE=m ^ This seemed to be the cause of my problem. > I'll bet that psaux isn't loaded as a module right now. Try adding > psaux to your /etc/modules file for your next reboot and modprobe psaux > right now. This leaps out for two reasons, psaux is not listed as a > misc device in 2.4 and you have it compiled as a module. Let the list > know if this solves it or you need more help. Thanks a lot for pointing me in the right direction. I should have mentioned, that i did not only update the distro but the kernel as well, only this time giving "make-kpkg --config=menuconfig --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image" a try instead of using "make menuconfig make dep clean bzImage etc." like i used to. Although I am absolutly sure that i marked Mouse Support as well as PS/2 mouse support in menuconfig with a "*" (Im sure because I allways do) it ended up as: CONFIG_MOUSE=y CONFIG_PSMOUSE=m in my .config, and no psaux module was build (i should have noticed this when posting it but maybe at around 3 or 4am i dont notice too much anymore ;-) ). Manually setting CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y and recompiling solved the problem. Weird thing is, that i reproduced this on my laptop with the same results. .config using make menuconfig: CONFIG_MOUSE=y CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y .config using make-kpkg --config=menuconfig: CONFIG_MOUSE=y CONFIG_PSMOUSE=m both times selecting Mouse Support and PS/2 mouse support with a "*". Cheers, Torsten -- pub 1024D/46B588A9 2001-03-12 Torsten Kersting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Key fingerprint = 5869 11F0 1546 FDC4 82F2 E33F C692 C1CF 46B5 88A9 PGP Key available at http://www.hqpm.net/kersting/pgp/pgpkey
Re: PS/2 mouse problems with kernel 2.4.x
On Sat, 2001-10-06 at 21:14, Torsten Kersting wrote: > Hi all, > im running woody/sid and did an update yesterday, since then I cant get > my mouse to work with a 2.4.x kernel anymore. Its a PS/2 mouse that works > fine with kernel 2.2.19 (console and X) but with a 2.4.x kernel I cant > start gpm (no error message but ps ax shows no gpm process, oops in syslog > see below) nor can I use the mouse in X without gpm, which worked before > by changing /dev/gpmdata to /dev/psaux in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. > cat /dev/psaux gives me "device not found" although I created it new > using mknod /dev/psaux c 10 1 (and works with 2.2.19). The PS/2 port > doesnt get recognized by the 2.4.x kernel (tried 2.4.8, 2.4.9 and > 2.4.10) although psaux support is enabled (.config see below). I > downgraded gpm to the potato version but that didnt change anything. > Excerpts from the relevant files: > > XF86Config-4: > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "PS/2" > Option "Device" "/dev/gpmdata" > EndSection > > > > /etc/gpm.conf: > device=/dev/psaux > responsiveness= > repeat_type=raw > type=ps2 > append="" > sample_rate= > > /proc/interrupts 2.2.19: >CPU0 > 0: 14127 XT-PIC timer > 1:346 XT-PIC keyboard > 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade > 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc > 9: 4060 XT-PIC aic7xxx, eth0 > 12:205 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse > 13: 1 XT-PIC fpu > NMI: 0 > ERR: 0 > > /proc/interrupts 2.4.10: >CPU0 > 0: 192839 XT-PIC timer > 1: 12475 XT-PIC keyboard > 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade > 5: 2 XT-PIC soundblaster > 9: 9469 XT-PIC aic7xxx, eth0 > NMI: 0 > ERR: 0 > > /proc/misc 2.2.19: > 135 rtc > 1 psaux > > /proc/misc 2.4.10: > 175 agpgart > 134 apm_bios > > from /var/log/syslog 2.2.19: > Oct 7 02:58:27 kaleunpc kernel: Detected PS/2 Mouse Port. > > from /var/log/syslog 2.4.10: > Oct 7 02:12:36 kaleunpc /usr/sbin/gpm[183]: oops() invoked from gpm.c(972) > Oct 7 02:12:36 kaleunpc /usr/sbin/gpm[183]: /dev/psaux: No such device > > ls -la /dev/psaux > crw-r--r--1 root root 10, 1 Oct 7 02:18 /dev/psaux > > ls -la /dev/mouse > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Oct 7 02:50 /dev/mouse -> gpmdata > > /usr/src/linux/.config: > # Mice > # > # CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set > CONFIG_MOUSE=y > CONFIG_PSMOUSE=m > # CONFIG_82C710_MOUSE is not set > # CONFIG_PC110_PAD is not set I'll bet that psaux isn't loaded as a module right now. Try adding psaux to your /etc/modules file for your next reboot and modprobe psaux right now. This leaps out for two reasons, psaux is not listed as a misc device in 2.4 and you have it compiled as a module. Let the list know if this solves it or you need more help. --mike
PS/2 mouse problems with kernel 2.4.x
Hi all, im running woody/sid and did an update yesterday, since then I cant get my mouse to work with a 2.4.x kernel anymore. Its a PS/2 mouse that works fine with kernel 2.2.19 (console and X) but with a 2.4.x kernel I cant start gpm (no error message but ps ax shows no gpm process, oops in syslog see below) nor can I use the mouse in X without gpm, which worked before by changing /dev/gpmdata to /dev/psaux in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. cat /dev/psaux gives me "device not found" although I created it new using mknod /dev/psaux c 10 1 (and works with 2.2.19). The PS/2 port doesnt get recognized by the 2.4.x kernel (tried 2.4.8, 2.4.9 and 2.4.10) although psaux support is enabled (.config see below). I downgraded gpm to the potato version but that didnt change anything. Excerpts from the relevant files: XF86Config-4: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "PS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/gpmdata" EndSection /etc/gpm.conf: device=/dev/psaux responsiveness= repeat_type=raw type=ps2 append="" sample_rate= /proc/interrupts 2.2.19: CPU0 0: 14127 XT-PIC timer 1:346 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 9: 4060 XT-PIC aic7xxx, eth0 12:205 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 13: 1 XT-PIC fpu NMI: 0 ERR: 0 /proc/interrupts 2.4.10: CPU0 0: 192839 XT-PIC timer 1: 12475 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 5: 2 XT-PIC soundblaster 9: 9469 XT-PIC aic7xxx, eth0 NMI: 0 ERR: 0 /proc/misc 2.2.19: 135 rtc 1 psaux /proc/misc 2.4.10: 175 agpgart 134 apm_bios from /var/log/syslog 2.2.19: Oct 7 02:58:27 kaleunpc kernel: Detected PS/2 Mouse Port. from /var/log/syslog 2.4.10: Oct 7 02:12:36 kaleunpc /usr/sbin/gpm[183]: oops() invoked from gpm.c(972) Oct 7 02:12:36 kaleunpc /usr/sbin/gpm[183]: /dev/psaux: No such device ls -la /dev/psaux crw-r--r--1 root root 10, 1 Oct 7 02:18 /dev/psaux ls -la /dev/mouse lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Oct 7 02:50 /dev/mouse -> gpmdata /usr/src/linux/.config: # Mice # # CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set CONFIG_MOUSE=y CONFIG_PSMOUSE=m # CONFIG_82C710_MOUSE is not set # CONFIG_PC110_PAD is not set Im getting really desperated on this one, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Torsten -- pub 1024D/46B588A9 2001-03-12 Torsten Kersting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Key fingerprint = 5869 11F0 1546 FDC4 82F2 E33F C692 C1CF 46B5 88A9 PGP Key available at http://www.hqpm.net/kersting/pgp/pgpkey
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 19)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.10 on a Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. Changes since the last release: + there are now powerpc packages compiled by Jens Kutilek + added: irda-tools Binary packages: o irda-commom o irda-tools + updated: devfsd (1.3.17-1 -> 1.3.18-4) + updated: ifupdown (0.6.4-3 -> 0.6.4-4) + fixed a bug when installing ppp on a machine with a non-modular kernel cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Get my GPG key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | gpg --import Fingerprint: B29C E71E FE19 6755 5C8A 84D4 99FC EA98 4F12 B400
Re: i810 & XFree 3.3.6 & kernel 2.4.x
Emil Pedersen [24/09/01 13:15 +0200]: > Vittorio wrote: > > > > Under potato and kernel 2.2.19 I have been able to compile the Intel > > module agpgart.o for i810 (downloaded from Intel site) and make it work > > with XFREE 3.3.6. > > > > Now with the new kernel 2.4.9 (which I compiled to tailor to my > > hardware) there is no way to compile the i810 module because a version > > problem arises (it says that it has been built for kernel 2.2.18!). > > > Do you need to stick with X 3.3.6? I looked around a while ago about > basicly the same thing, but what I found was mostly "upgrade to X > 4...". It seems to be easier than make X 3.. work. I should admit > though that I did not try more that a second to make 336 work, so I > might be very wrong. > > // Emil > You're right! I've just moved to XFree 4.1 installing the debianized packages for potato from people.debian.org/~cpbotha. It all has started working at the very first shot!!!
Re: i810 & XFree 3.3.6 & kernel 2.4.x
On Monday Sep 24 11:23 Vittorio wrote: > ** Under potato and kernel 2.2.19 I have been able to compile the Intel > ** module agpgart.o for i810 (downloaded from Intel site) and make it work > ** with XFREE 3.3.6. > ** > ** Now with the new kernel 2.4.9 (which I compiled to tailor to my > ** hardware) there is no way to compile the i810 module because a version > ** problem arises (it says that it has been built for kernel 2.2.18!). > ** > ** How can I solve this problem before moving to woody unwillingly? Why don't you use the i810 drivers from kernel 2.4.9? Timo -- Nothing is impossible! You only need to know the way. :-) END
i810 & XFree 3.3.6 & kernel 2.4.x
Under potato and kernel 2.2.19 I have been able to compile the Intel module agpgart.o for i810 (downloaded from Intel site) and make it work with XFREE 3.3.6. Now with the new kernel 2.4.9 (which I compiled to tailor to my hardware) there is no way to compile the i810 module because a version problem arises (it says that it has been built for kernel 2.2.18!). How can I solve this problem before moving to woody unwillingly? Ciao Vittorio
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 01:29:36AM -0400, Jason Boxman wrote: > I have a 486 firewall myself. My connectivity on other machines more or less > stops when I do things like run dpkg or the gShield firewall script > (iptables) loads on it. Is this normal, or is it just my particular 486 33? dpkg and friends aren't known to be particularly kind to lower end processors (especially machines with little RAM). My 486 is a pita to upgrade (and it's a dx2/66 (remember when those were _fast_?)) RAM helps ... I saw a performance jump when I went from 8 MB to 16 MB, and again when I went to 32 MB. it's getting harder to find SIMMs laying around though. > (Oh, and I use kernel-package on the faster machine to compile kernels for > the 486 -- Just so this is somewhat on topic.) On topic? This is debian-user! Cheers, -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpF6Yzt6xYwh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 02:09:10AM -0700, der.hans wrote:
| Am 08. Sep, 2001 schw?zte Rajesh Fowkar so:
|
| > What is this initrd ? Why it is required when kernel boots without it ?
|
| It's required for the kernel-image-2.4.x packages because they're being
| built with initrds. Actually, it's because the module for the filesystems
| are in the initrds and not built in to the kernel, e.g. ext2 is no longer
| staticly compiled into the kernel, it's in the initrd.
That sounds like it would be really useful for supporting root
filesystems such as reiser or xfs. Does the boot loader load the
initrd from disk, or does the kernel do that? Either way, I imagine
that whatever loads the initrd needs to be able to read the fs that
the initrd is on.
Do you know of a F{ine}M to R to learn more about initrds and how they
work?
-D
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable
On Sat, 2001-09-08 at 15:59, dman wrote: > Add 'devfs=mount' to your kernel command line and try again. Use the > old-dev name for the root= argument though. I'm getting there... devfsd starts and hangs on "Creating extra device nodes...". Looking at the script: for i in `sed -e '/^#/d' $DEVFILES 2>/dev/null`; do And playing with sed revels that at that moment in time $DEVFILES is empty, as I have no /etc/devfs/devices.list. That file in generated from the contents of /etc/devfs/devices.d, which is empty on my machine. I tried creating a null file (just a comment) but that gets stripped out by the code which populated $DEVFILES. :-( Does anyone have a sample file which I can drop into /etc/devfs/devices.d? Thanks, Ross Burton
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 12:46:36AM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote: | Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > Brian Nelson wrote: [...] | > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and | > manually installing the kernel image. Just to be different : | 1. You won't forget to run /sbin/lilo I use grub instead and don't need to reinstall it on the MBR every time :-). | 2. No need to worry about changing /vmlinuz link After the package says "Hmm, there's no /vmlinuz link. Maybe you don't want it. Let's find out ..." I type 'rm /vmlinuz' :-). I've been trying out some various combinations of options with the kernels so I've been specifying the kernel image directly in grub's config, rather than using a symlink (and hoping it points to the one I think/want it to point to). Just my preferences, though I like the 1-command process that make-kpkg gives so I don't need to keep a reference handy to get the 'make clean' 'make dep' 'make install' and all the other steps right. (BTW, I did build my own kernels directly when I started out with RH5.2. I didn't know how to configure modules then :-). -D
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 01:29:36AM -0400, Jason Boxman wrote: | On Sunday 09 September 2001 01:07 am, Nathan E Norman wrote: | > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: | > > Nathan E Norman wrote: | | > | > I maintain (more or less) four boxes ... a celeron (my home machine), | > an athlon (my work desktop), a 486 (my firewall), and a p90 (a server | > with no portfolio). I compile all the kernels on the athlon because, | > well, it's just too painful to sit around waiting for the other | > machines to finish the job. The p90 and especially the 486 are | > practically useless while compiling a kernel. Since the athlon has | > the biggest (and fastest) disks, I need kernel-source trees on one | > machine rather than spread all over the place (let's see, I downloaded | > the ipsec patch where? Did I patch this tree, or was that the other | > box?) This is a significant advantage. | | I have a 486 firewall myself. My connectivity on other machines more or less | stops when I do things like run dpkg or the gShield firewall script | (iptables) loads on it. Is this normal, or is it just my particular 486 33? I have a 486SX 25MHz with 8MB RAM (and ~32MB swap). When all I had was a dial-up connection it would take longer for dpkg to unpack the kernel than for the dialup link to download it. The reason is the system swaps a LOT because it needs quite a bit more memory than it has. I don't know what the gShield script does, but if it uses memory or disk a lot it is bound to be slow, or if it does a lot of computation. -D
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable
On Sat, 2001-09-08 at 15:59, dman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:05:33AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: > | Yes, it's me again. > | > | Once this is sorted I'll stop bugging you, I promise! > | > | Does the kernel-image for 2.4.x from unstable come with devfsd on? I >^ > devfsd and devfs are two different things. devfsd is a user-space > daemon that registers itself with a devfs-enabled kernel to provide > various naming and partition adjustments when devfs events occur. Sorry, I knew that. Typo... > No, the stock kernels don't have devfs enabled by default. You can > either recompile your kernel and enable devfs and auto-mount it at > boot time OR you can add "devfs=mount" to your kernel command line. Okay. > | I had a read of /etc/init.d/devfsd and it quits if it can't find > | /dev/.devfsd. I created that and rebooted, but then when devfsd starts > | it sits on "Creating symlinks" and hangs. I tried moving /dev to > | /olddev and creating an empty /dev with just .devfsd in, and this really > | broke the boot sequence! > > Yes, I would expect this. If you read the devfs FAQ/Howto by Richard > Gooch it explains that the magic file /dev/.devfsd is created by the > kernel when devfs is used. Programs that wish to know whether or not > devfs is being used should check for the presence of that file. By > creating that file by hand you have just lied to devfsd to make it > think devfs is currently being used, but it isn't which is why it > fails. Ah. Thankyou for that. Explains a lot really! I'll see how it goes when I reboot... Thanks, Ross
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte Craig Dickson so: > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and > manually installing the kernel image. I've adminned many boxen with almost the same configuration. Also, my firewall has no developer tools. kpkg actually doesn't help me much there because there's no lilo on PPC either :), but I still like it. I'm actually moving almost completely to pre-packaged kernels on x86. I don't often need something that was patched in and the packages have been working quite well for me. Sure will make adminning the boxen at work easier. ciao, der.hans -- # [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # Knowledge is useless unless it's shared. - der.hans
Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes
Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte Rajesh Fowkar so: > What is this initrd ? Why it is required when kernel boots without it ? It's required for the kernel-image-2.4.x packages because they're being built with initrds. Actually, it's because the module for the filesystems are in the initrds and not built in to the kernel, e.g. ext2 is no longer staticly compiled into the kernel, it's in the initrd. ciao, der.hans -- # [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # I chose to use the kernel sources as my documentation. ;-) # -- Kevin Buettner
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
Brian Nelson wrote: > Yeah, those mysterious Debian developers do strange things to the > source. Whatever could it be? Now you're just being snide, which doesn't exactly contribute to the civility factor of the discussion. Fortunately, I have better sense than to respond in kind. The point is, I have other patches from other developers (such as the ext3 filesystem) that were generated against Linus's kernel source. There's no guarantee that the patches will work against kernel sources that have been modified. (Probably they would, most of the time.) > Hmm, seems to be just a couple fixes to me. I wouldn't complain... And how well have those fixes been tested? And if they're so great, why didn't Linus accept them? The time lag between Linus's release of a new kernel and the Debian maintainer's release of the same (plus patches) source is usually only a few days. Not much time for testing. > For a bunch more: > zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/Rationale.gz Thanks, I'll look at that. Craig
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > > > > Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer > > > kernel-package :) > > > > You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly the > > same kernel. Right now, I have two Debian boxes, but one is a P3 running > > Sid (kernel 2.4.9) and the other is an original Pentium (complete with > > the FP divide bug) running Potato (2.2.19). > > Uh, this doesn't make sense. There's no limitation which says you > can't build kernels on one machine which are customised for another > (entirely different) machine. True, but as my first sentence above makes clear, I was assuming that you meant to build one kernel and install it on a number of machines. The rest of your latest message clarifies that you actually meant that you want to build all your kernels on one system and then distribute the resulting packages out to the other machines. To which I say, sure, but kernel-package still doesn't seem all that advantageous. All you have to do is copy two files (vmlinuz, System.map) across the network and replace the /vmlinuz symlink, so how much work do you really save by copying and installing a kernel package instead? > The p90 and especially the 486 are > practically useless while compiling a kernel. I buy that for the 486, but my P90 builds its own kernels. It's definitely a lot slower than the P3-700, but since the P90 exists, at this point, solely for DMZ proxy duties, I don't really care how long it takes. > Since the athlon has > the biggest (and fastest) disks, I need kernel-source trees on one > machine rather than spread all over the place (let's see, I downloaded > the ipsec patch where? Did I patch this tree, or was that the other > box?) This is a significant advantage. Yes, but it's not relevant to whether you use kernel-package or not, is it? Craig
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Sunday 09 September 2001 01:07 am, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > I maintain (more or less) four boxes ... a celeron (my home machine), > an athlon (my work desktop), a 486 (my firewall), and a p90 (a server > with no portfolio). I compile all the kernels on the athlon because, > well, it's just too painful to sit around waiting for the other > machines to finish the job. The p90 and especially the 486 are > practically useless while compiling a kernel. Since the athlon has > the biggest (and fastest) disks, I need kernel-source trees on one > machine rather than spread all over the place (let's see, I downloaded > the ipsec patch where? Did I patch this tree, or was that the other > box?) This is a significant advantage. I have a 486 firewall myself. My connectivity on other machines more or less stops when I do things like run dpkg or the gShield firewall script (iptables) loads on it. Is this normal, or is it just my particular 486 33? (Oh, and I use kernel-package on the faster machine to compile kernels for the 486 -- Just so this is somewhat on topic.) Thanks. > Cheers,
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > > Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer > > kernel-package :) > > You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly the > same kernel. Right now, I have two Debian boxes, but one is a P3 running > Sid (kernel 2.4.9) and the other is an original Pentium (complete with > the FP divide bug) running Potato (2.2.19). Uh, this doesn't make sense. There's no limitation which says you can't build kernels on one machine which are customised for another (entirely different) machine. > Sure, if you have a number of machines that will be well-served running > the same kernel, and you handle variations in hardware with loadable > modules, then a packaged kernel would be useful. With only a few > machines, I'd rather just build a custom kernel for each one, tuned for > exactly that machine's hardware, with loadable module support disabled. Sounds familiar. Why you think this is not possible with kernel-package is beyond me. > This way, there are only two files to install for a kernel (vmlinuz and > System.map), so a kernel package has no significant advantage over doing > it all by hand. I maintain (more or less) four boxes ... a celeron (my home machine), an athlon (my work desktop), a 486 (my firewall), and a p90 (a server with no portfolio). I compile all the kernels on the athlon because, well, it's just too painful to sit around waiting for the other machines to finish the job. The p90 and especially the 486 are practically useless while compiling a kernel. Since the athlon has the biggest (and fastest) disks, I need kernel-source trees on one machine rather than spread all over the place (let's see, I downloaded the ipsec patch where? Did I patch this tree, or was that the other box?) This is a significant advantage. Cheers, -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgp09i03dQ9Ke.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > > Why not just download the kernel-source package? Similar to the > > vanilla ones, but usually with a few patches applied. > > That's exactly why not. I'd rather have a vanilla Linus kernel source > tree to which I can apply patches without worrying about whether they'll > conflict with whatever patches the Debian maintainers decided to apply. Yeah, those mysterious Debian developers do strange things to the source. Whatever could it be? $ zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-source-2.4.9/changelog.Debian.gz kernel-source-2.4.9 (2.4.9-1) unstable; urgency=low * New upstream release (closes: #63393). * Fixed highmem CramFS bug (closes: #108893). * Added missing include in fs/ntfs/unistr.c. * Reverted startup==1 patch from drivers/net/tulip/21142.c. * Fixed obsolete use of min: drivers/net/rrunner.c. * Exported snprintf/vsnprintf (ac patches). -- Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 18 Aug 2001 21:23:07 +1000 Hmm, seems to be just a couple fixes to me. I wouldn't complain... > > The package > > installs the bzip2'ed source in /usr/src. Just tar -jxf it, configure > > with 'make menuconfig' or whatever, and then build a custom > > kernel-image package with 'make-kpkg kernel_image'. > > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and > manually installing the kernel image. 1. You won't forget to run /sbin/lilo 2. No need to worry about changing /vmlinuz link 3. ... For a bunch more: zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/Rationale.gz -- Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
Nathan E Norman wrote: > Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer > kernel-package :) You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly the same kernel. Right now, I have two Debian boxes, but one is a P3 running Sid (kernel 2.4.9) and the other is an original Pentium (complete with the FP divide bug) running Potato (2.2.19). Sure, if you have a number of machines that will be well-served running the same kernel, and you handle variations in hardware with loadable modules, then a packaged kernel would be useful. With only a few machines, I'd rather just build a custom kernel for each one, tuned for exactly that machine's hardware, with loadable module support disabled. This way, there are only two files to install for a kernel (vmlinuz and System.map), so a kernel package has no significant advantage over doing it all by hand. Craig
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 01:55:41PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer kernel-package :) -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpkhFv1Kiqbo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Saturday 08 September 2001 04:55 pm, Craig Dickson wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > > The package > > installs the bzip2'ed source in /usr/src. Just tar -jxf it, configure > > with 'make menuconfig' or whatever, and then build a custom > > kernel-image package with 'make-kpkg kernel_image'. > > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and > manually installing the kernel image. I found kernel-package useful for compiling a kernel for a machine that didn't have any development tools and was too slow (486 33) to compile a kernel in a reasonable period of time. Building a custom kernel deb and copying it over was far easier, for me, anyway. > > Craig
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 01:55:41PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > > Why not just download the kernel-source package? Similar to the > > vanilla ones, but usually with a few patches applied. > > That's exactly why not. I'd rather have a vanilla Linus kernel source > tree to which I can apply patches without worrying about whether they'll > conflict with whatever patches the Debian maintainers decided to apply. > > > The package > > installs the bzip2'ed source in /usr/src. Just tar -jxf it, configure > > with 'make menuconfig' or whatever, and then build a custom > > kernel-image package with 'make-kpkg kernel_image'. > > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and > manually installing the kernel image. > > > I find it's much easier to manage and install kernel-images using > > the packaging system. > > I have not found this to be the case. Installing kernels isn't that > complex a process anyway. I hate to wade in on this, but I used to use make-package, but have returned to just using the plain kernel package process, which I find to be so simple, and so amenable to changes I want to make, that it results in a very pleasant process. In fact, I try out new kernels just to see how some new features work, what it's feasible to change, and it is, for me, just fun to use the basic kernel. I expect that either will work,and I have used, and appreciated, debian for years, but not for kernel purposes. -- Gary Dolan Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, Kernel 2.4.9 FreeBSD 4.3
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
Brian Nelson wrote: > Why not just download the kernel-source package? Similar to the > vanilla ones, but usually with a few patches applied. That's exactly why not. I'd rather have a vanilla Linus kernel source tree to which I can apply patches without worrying about whether they'll conflict with whatever patches the Debian maintainers decided to apply. > The package > installs the bzip2'ed source in /usr/src. Just tar -jxf it, configure > with 'make menuconfig' or whatever, and then build a custom > kernel-image package with 'make-kpkg kernel_image'. I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and manually installing the kernel image. > I find it's much easier to manage and install kernel-images using > the packaging system. I have not found this to be the case. Installing kernels isn't that complex a process anyway. Craig
Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes
Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte dman so: > If you compile your kernel without initrd support then you don't need > an initrd. The stock kernels need the initrd AFAIK. (Well, I didn't > get it to work without it) We keep saying stock kernels. It should be pointed out that we mean the kernel-image* packages, not necessarily the standard setup when grabbing the kernel source. > It is a file that has a cramfs filesystem it. This filesystem is used > as the root filesystem during startup until the real root filesystem > is mounted. It allows for loading modules and stuff, if it is setup > right. I have no idea what benefit I get from it, but there it is > anyways :-). It keeps the initial kernel size down. That makes a difference in x86 land, especially with older boxen. It's a way of lying and convincing the firmware that you're gonna load something small. An initrd can be even more important when running the same image on multiple boxen that all have different boot configs, e.g. scsi vs. ide root devices, different filesystems for root, etc. BTW, it's been working flawlessly with the kernel-image packages for me except for the not updating the boot loader config problem. I'm using 2.4.x kernel-image packages on most of my workstation boxen as well as servers at home. We'll be moving to the packages for most of the servers at work as well. ciao, der.hans -- # [EMAIL PROTECTED] home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # Keine Ahnung, was ich dir sagen soll, # keine Ahnung und keinen (.)plan. -- die Toten Hosen
Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:53:19PM +, Rajesh Fowkar wrote: | Matt Jones saw fit to inform me that: | >>>| Could you please explain straightforwardly, step by step how you | >>>| compiled your kernel? | > | >Make sure you enable initrd when you are doing the xconfig. It is not | >something that stands out greatly and I missed it a few times. After | >enabling the initrd I was able to compile with no problems at all. | | I have seen lot of threads here about initrd image which is required it | seems for 2.4.x kernels ? But I have always compiled the kernel without any | initrd stuff and the kernel boots fine. If you compile your kernel without initrd support then you don't need an initrd. The stock kernels need the initrd AFAIK. (Well, I didn't get it to work without it) | What is this initrd ? Why it is required when kernel boots without it ? INITial RamDisk. It is a file that has a cramfs filesystem it. This filesystem is used as the root filesystem during startup until the real root filesystem is mounted. It allows for loading modules and stuff, if it is setup right. I have no idea what benefit I get from it, but there it is anyways :-). -D
Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes
Matt Jones saw fit to inform me that: >>>| Could you please explain straightforwardly, step by step how you >>>| compiled your kernel? > >Make sure you enable initrd when you are doing the xconfig. It is not >something that stands out greatly and I missed it a few times. After >enabling the initrd I was able to compile with no problems at all. I have seen lot of threads here about initrd image which is required it seems for 2.4.x kernels ? But I have always compiled the kernel without any initrd stuff and the kernel boots fine. There is no initrd in my /boot. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/boot$ l total 3184 -rw-r--r--1 root root 419469 Aug 12 20:22 System.map-2.4.8 -rw-r--r--1 root root 428802 Sep 2 15:10 System.map-2.4.9 -rw-r--r--1 root root 512 Jul 14 19:45 boot.0300 -rw-r--r--1 root root 4568 Jul 14 19:44 boot.b -rw-r--r--1 root root 612 Jul 14 19:44 chain.b -rw-r--r--1 root root20187 Aug 12 20:08 config-2.4.8 -rw-r--r--1 root root20578 Sep 2 14:56 config-2.4.9 drwxr-xr-x2 root root 4096 Sep 2 15:11 grub -rw---1 root root33792 Jul 15 00:31 map -rw-r--r--1 root root 512 Jul 14 19:44 mbr.b -rw-r--r--1 root root 640 Jul 14 19:44 os2_d.b -rw-r--r--1 root root 730588 Jul 14 22:03 redhat -rw-r--r--1 root root 752902 Aug 12 20:22 vmlinuz-2.4.8 -rw-r--r--1 root root 788789 Sep 2 15:10 vmlinuz-2.4.9 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/boot$ What is this initrd ? Why it is required when kernel boots without it ? Thanks in advance. Regards -- Rajesh -- : [Linux One Stanza Tip] From : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> LOST #073-**< Sub : Backing Up your System >**- Been thinking about how to back up your LINUX system ? There is a whole website just for you: http://www.Linux-Backup.net/app.gwif.html Concepts, methods, applications, procedures... Have a look! :
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
John Toon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 08 September 2001 10:05 am, Ross Burton wrote: > > Personally I would always recommend downloading yourself a vanilla 2.4.x > kernel tarball from http://www.kernel.org. With kernels, this is one of the > few areas where I think it is better to use the source tarballs rather than a > debian package. Why not just download the kernel-source package? Similar to the vanilla ones, but usually with a few patches applied. The package installs the bzip2'ed source in /usr/src. Just tar -jxf it, configure with 'make menuconfig' or whatever, and then build a custom kernel-image package with 'make-kpkg kernel_image'. I find it's much easier to manage and install kernel-images using the packaging system. > With the kenel sources, you can compile in _exactly_ the options you want, > including devfs. If you'd rather, install the kernel sources via apt-get. > Either way, use sources rather than a prebuilt image, since the image will > include a mass of unused and unnessary drivers for your machine. -- Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:05:33AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: | Yes, it's me again. | | Once this is sorted I'll stop bugging you, I promise! | | Does the kernel-image for 2.4.x from unstable come with devfsd on? I ^ devfsd and devfs are two different things. devfsd is a user-space daemon that registers itself with a devfs-enabled kernel to provide various naming and partition adjustments when devfs events occur. No, the stock kernels don't have devfs enabled by default. You can either recompile your kernel and enable devfs and auto-mount it at boot time OR you can add "devfs=mount" to your kernel command line. | tried mounting a zip disk (external ppa) and the device was | /dev/scsi/0/... not /dev/sda4 where it normally sits. I tried | installing devfsd and it didn't work out-of-the-box. I don't know why your disk would have changed path, but devfsd does install out-of-the-box. See below for the reason it "didn't" work for you. | I had a read of /etc/init.d/devfsd and it quits if it can't find | /dev/.devfsd. I created that and rebooted, but then when devfsd starts | it sits on "Creating symlinks" and hangs. I tried moving /dev to | /olddev and creating an empty /dev with just .devfsd in, and this really | broke the boot sequence! Yes, I would expect this. If you read the devfs FAQ/Howto by Richard Gooch it explains that the magic file /dev/.devfsd is created by the kernel when devfs is used. Programs that wish to know whether or not devfs is being used should check for the presence of that file. By creating that file by hand you have just lied to devfsd to make it think devfs is currently being used, but it isn't which is why it fails. | Can anyone who has devfsd/kernel 2.4 working give me a hand? Add 'devfs=mount' to your kernel command line and try again. Use the old-dev name for the root= argument though. HTH, -D
Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels
On Saturday 08 September 2001 10:05 am, Ross Burton wrote: > Yes, it's me again. > > Once this is sorted I'll stop bugging you, I promise! > > Does the kernel-image for 2.4.x from unstable come with devfsd on? I > tried mounting a zip disk (external ppa) and the device was > /dev/scsi/0/... not /dev/sda4 where it normally sits. I tried > installing devfsd and it didn't work out-of-the-box. Personally I would always recommend downloading yourself a vanilla 2.4.x kernel tarball from http://www.kernel.org. With kernels, this is one of the few areas where I think it is better to use the source tarballs rather than a debian package. With the kenel sources, you can compile in _exactly_ the options you want, including devfs. If you'd rather, install the kernel sources via apt-get. Either way, use sources rather than a prebuilt image, since the image will include a mass of unused and unnessary drivers for your machine. I'm using devfs without any real problems. I simply built my own kernel, re-ran lilo, apt-get install devfsd, restart, and away you go! > I had a read of /etc/init.d/devfsd and it quits if it can't find > /dev/.devfsd. I created that and rebooted, but then when devfsd starts > it sits on "Creating symlinks" and hangs. I tried moving /dev to > /olddev and creating an empty /dev with just .devfsd in, and this really > broke the boot sequence! The debian devfsd package should include a correctly configured setup... it did with me. John.
kernel 2.4.x and unstable
Yes, it's me again. Once this is sorted I'll stop bugging you, I promise! Does the kernel-image for 2.4.x from unstable come with devfsd on? I tried mounting a zip disk (external ppa) and the device was /dev/scsi/0/... not /dev/sda4 where it normally sits. I tried installing devfsd and it didn't work out-of-the-box. I had a read of /etc/init.d/devfsd and it quits if it can't find /dev/.devfsd. I created that and rebooted, but then when devfsd starts it sits on "Creating symlinks" and hangs. I tried moving /dev to /olddev and creating an empty /dev with just .devfsd in, and this really broke the boot sequence! Can anyone who has devfsd/kernel 2.4 working give me a hand? Thanks for any help, Ross Burton
Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes
From: dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user CC: Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:44:32 -0400 On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 05:40:01PM +, Vittorio wrote: | Ross Burton [debian-user] <06/09/01 21:45 +0100>: | > Hi, | > | > After noticing (thanks!) that kernel 2.4.x uses an initrd image I | > managed to make it boot my Sid systems. | > | I wonder if you can help me. | | In a previous post of mine I've detailed the problems I met in | compiling kernel 2.4.9 but none told me how to compile 2.4.9 and | that damned initrd (I've read everything about on that initrd to no | avail). | | Could you please explain straightforwardly, step by step how you | compiled your kernel? Make sure you enable initrd when you are doing the xconfig. It is not something that stands out greatly and I missed it a few times. After enabling the initrd I was able to compile with no problems at all. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 05:40:01PM +, Vittorio wrote: | Ross Burton [debian-user] <06/09/01 21:45 +0100>: | > Hi, | > | > After noticing (thanks!) that kernel 2.4.x uses an initrd image I | > managed to make it boot my Sid systems. | > | I wonder if you can help me. | | In a previous post of mine I've detailed the problems I met in | compiling kernel 2.4.9 but none told me how to compile 2.4.9 and | that damned initrd (I've read everything about on that initrd to no | avail). | | Could you please explain straightforwardly, step by step how you | compiled your kernel? Do this in the kernel-source directory. (from the top of my head, see 'man make-kpkg' for more details) $ fakeroot make-kpkg --with-config=xconfig --append-to-version=-local.1.0 --revision=local.1.0 --initrd kernel-image Then in the parent of that (/usr/src for me) you will have kernel-image-2.4.9-local.1.0_local.1.0_i386.deb which you can install using dpkg -i. The reason for doubling the version is one is for the kernel (the name of the image in /boot and the directory in /lib/modules) and the other is for the Debian package (the version column of 'dpkg -l'). HTH, -D
Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes
Ross Burton [debian-user] <06/09/01 21:45 +0100>: > Hi, > > After noticing (thanks!) that kernel 2.4.x uses an initrd image I > managed to make it boot my Sid systems. > I wonder if you can help me. In a previous post of mine I've detailed the problems I met in compiling kernel 2.4.9 but none told me how to compile 2.4.9 and that damned initrd (I've read everything about on that initrd to no avail). Could you please explain straightforwardly, step by step how you compiled your kernel? Thanks Vittorio
Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 09:45:37PM +0100, Ross Burton wrote:
| Hi,
|
| After noticing (thanks!) that kernel 2.4.x uses an initrd image I
| managed to make it boot my Sid systems.
|
| 1. Why does it wait for 5 seconds? ("wait 5 seconds or press enter for a
| shell")?
No idea, but I'd like it if my boot time was 5 seconds faster :-).
| 2. I got an error about an incorrect cramfs magic number, is this
| critial?
I don't know, but it is possible. Can you try rebuilding the initrd?
(I have no idea how, so don't ask me).
| 3. How do I get devfsd to work? I installed it but when I tried
| mounting my zip drive I was told the device was /dev/scsi/... which
| didn't exist. I moved /dev to /olddev and created /dev/.devfsd and
| started devfsd but it still didn't work. Is there a document on
| installing devfsd on sid?
devfsd works for me out-of-the-box. All I did was 'apt-get install
devfsd'. Now, what sort of zip drive do you have? Is it a SCSI
drive? What is the identification of it, if it is? Do you have the
driver loaded? /proc can tell you alot. I found that my cdrom didn't
work anymore when I started using kernel 2.4 and devfs. It turned out
that /proc/ide/.../driver reported "(none)". The driver was moved to
the 'ide-cdrom' module rather than built in. (I just didn't notice
that it didn't work until I enabled devfs)
HTH,
-D
Kernel 2.4.x woes
Hi,
After noticing (thanks!) that kernel 2.4.x uses an initrd image I
managed to make it boot my Sid systems.
1. Why does it wait for 5 seconds? ("wait 5 seconds or press enter for a
shell")?
2. I got an error about an incorrect cramfs magic number, is this
critial?
3. How do I get devfsd to work? I installed it but when I tried
mounting my zip drive I was told the device was /dev/scsi/... which
didn't exist. I moved /dev to /olddev and created /dev/.devfsd and
started devfsd but it still didn't work. Is there a document on
installing devfsd on sid?
Thanks for any help,
Ross Burton
re: Lynx, auth, dump and kernel 2.4.x
I'm going to answer my own question on this one. I was able to get lynx to work under 2.4.9 by using a url of http://linky/Status.htm (instead of the IP, and "linky" is defined in my /etc/hosts) I don't know why this works, and wish I had tried it sooner!! Either way, it'd be nice to have some insight as to what's going on.. I also noted a huge increase in bandwidth once I went to 2.4.9. The 2.2.19 was getting about 1.0Mbps (this is on the Linksys router/switch, the card is at 100mbps FD). Once I went to 2.4.9 I was over 50Mbps. Doug > -Original Message- > From: Doug Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 8:58 AM > To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' > Subject: Lynx, auth, dump and kernel 2.4.x > > > Hi all. I recently upgraded my debian-woody to kernel 2.4.9. > The kernel compilation went fine and upon reboot all was > well, with one glitch. > > To update my dynamic DNS, I use lynx to grab the external IP > from a Linksys BEFSR41 router. This function broke once I > upgraded to 2.4.9 (and was working fine under 2.2.19). I also > tried 2.4.8 with the same results. > > The specific problem : my lynx (2.8.4rel.1) command is like > this : Lynx -dump -auth=admin:pswd http://10.10.10.1/Status.htm > > This should print the web page to the screen, then I grep for the IP. > > But under 2.4.9, (actually, 2.4.8 right now) I get this : > --- > lynx -dump -auth=admin:pswd http://10.10.10.1/Status.htm > Looking up 10.10.10.1 10.10.10.1 Making HTTP connection to > 10.10.10.1 Sending HTTP request. HTTP request sent; waiting > for response. > Alert!: Access without authorization denied -- retrying > Retrying with access authorization information. Looking up > 10.10.10.1 10.10.10.1 Making HTTP connection to 10.10.10.1 > Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. > > lynx: Can't access startfile http://10.10.10.1/Status.htm > -- > > Now the funny thing is that only the "-dump" is what's > causing the problem. When I eliminate that and open the web > page interactively (still passing the auth at the command > line) it's fine! > > Note that I don't seem to be having any other troubles with > networking or otherwise. > > Any ideas? It's driving me nuts! Thanks! > > Doug Baker > >
Lynx, auth, dump and kernel 2.4.x
Hi all. I recently upgraded my debian-woody to kernel 2.4.9. The kernel compilation went fine and upon reboot all was well, with one glitch. To update my dynamic DNS, I use lynx to grab the external IP from a Linksys BEFSR41 router. This function broke once I upgraded to 2.4.9 (and was working fine under 2.2.19). I also tried 2.4.8 with the same results. The specific problem : my lynx (2.8.4rel.1) command is like this : Lynx -dump -auth=admin:pswd http://10.10.10.1/Status.htm This should print the web page to the screen, then I grep for the IP. But under 2.4.9, (actually, 2.4.8 right now) I get this : --- lynx -dump -auth=admin:pswd http://10.10.10.1/Status.htm Looking up 10.10.10.1 10.10.10.1 Making HTTP connection to 10.10.10.1 Sending HTTP request. HTTP request sent; waiting for response. Alert!: Access without authorization denied -- retrying Retrying with access authorization information. Looking up 10.10.10.1 10.10.10.1 Making HTTP connection to 10.10.10.1 Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host. lynx: Can't access startfile http://10.10.10.1/Status.htm -- Now the funny thing is that only the "-dump" is what's causing the problem. When I eliminate that and open the web page interactively (still passing the auth at the command line) it's fine! Note that I don't seem to be having any other troubles with networking or otherwise. Any ideas? It's driving me nuts! Thanks! Doug Baker
Re: kernel 2.4.x
I know. It is a personal workstation, and I am will fix the problem soon -- Profanity is the one language all programmers know best. Unknown
Re: kernel 2.4.x (what compiler?)
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 01:51:20PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: | | Something that seems odd: | | Documentation/Changes says to use gcc-2.91.66 but this old version isn't | available as a Debian package! Use 2.95. You shouldn't have any problems. -D
Re: kernel 2.4.x (what compiler?)
Something that seems odd: Documentation/Changes says to use gcc-2.91.66 but this old version isn't available as a Debian package! Quote: Kernel compilation == GCC --- The gcc version requirements may vary depending on the type of CPU in your computer. The next paragraph applies to users of x86 CPUs, but not necessarily to users of other CPUs. Users of other CPUs should obtain information about their gcc version requirements from another source. The recommended compiler for the kernel is egcs 1.1.2 (gcc 2.91.66), and it should be used when you need absolute stability. You may use gcc 2.95.x instead if you wish, although it may cause problems. Later versions of gcc have not received much testing for Linux kernel compilation, and there are almost certainly bugs (mainly, but not exclusively, in the kernel) that will need to be fixed in order to use these compilers. In any case, using pgcc instead of egcs or plain gcc is just asking for trouble. Note that gcc 2.7.2.3 is no longer a supported kernel compiler. The kernel no longer works around bugs in gcc 2.7.2.3 and, in fact, will refuse to be compiled with it. In addition, please pay attention to compiler optimization. Anything greater than -O2 may not be wise. Similarly, if you choose to use gcc-2.95.x or derivatives, be sure not to use -fstrict-aliasing (which, depending on your version of gcc 2.95.x, may necessitate using -fno-strict-aliasing). ...RickM...
Re: kernel 2.4.x
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Akintayo Holder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Oren Gozlan wrote: > >> any info about kernel 2.4.x ? >> any one have tried it ? >> >> THNX >> >Yes, I tried it with testing and it messed up my modem config, it also does >not > >allow my local filesystems to unmount at shutdown. Note that the 2.4.x kernels are still a "work in progress" - it is possible that you tried an earlier 2.4 kernel that had this problem, but I certainly haven't seen it. That being said I wouldn't recommend a 2.4.x kernel for a production system right now. For a personal workstation it's probably fine. Mike. -- "Answering above the the original message is called top posting. Sometimes also called the Jeopardy style. Usenet is Q & A not A & Q." -- Bob Gootee
Re: kernel 2.4.x
Daniel Kleine-Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> i'm using it in conjunction with testing without _ANY_ problems Also here. I've used 2.4.5, 2.4.7, 2.4.8, and 2.4.9 without problem on a mostly testing system. The only issue (as was pointed out to me here) is that 2.4.9 is really designed to work with X 4.1.0, not with earlier versions. But I have found the combination of kernel 2.4.9 and X 4.1.0 to be great. Jim
Re: kernel 2.4.x
Subject: kernel 2.4.x Date: Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 04:51:17PM -0400 In reply to:Oren Gozlan Quoting Oren Gozlan([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > any one have tried it ? Running 2.4.9 on 3 Potato boxes and 1 Woody box. No parobems. If you try a google search you will get all the info about it you would ever want to know. -- According to my calculations the problem doesn't exist. ___
Re: kernel 2.4.x
On Sunday 26 August 2001 01:51 pm, Oren Gozlan wrote: > any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > any one have tried it ? > Running 2.4.8 custom on sid right now. The stock kernel didn't work for me, but the custom does. Works fine so far. I've been using the 2.4 series for a while now and I haven't really had any problems with it. - David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.4.x
On 26 Aug 2001 16:51:17 -0400, Oren Gozlan wrote: > ** any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > ** any one have tried it ? I use kernel 2.4.x since 3 or 4 month, without any problems on potato. There are some packeges to update, i taked from woody, to get a running kernel 2.4.x. Modutils and ppp are necessary. At first time i used kernel 2.4.2 and had problems with the driver for my AMD Duron. But this bug was fixed after some days. Now i use kernel 2.4.5 and had no problems since kernel 2.4.3. More questions? Timo
Re: kernel 2.4.x
Oren Gozlan saw fit to inform me that: >any info about kernel 2.4.x ? >any one have tried it ? Yes. I am at present on kernel 2.4.9 :-) What u want to know ? ( I am working on this kernel at home ). Warm Regards -- Rajesh Fowkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kurtarkar Nagari,Bldg-C,T4, http://www.symonds.net/~rajesh/ Santacruz,Ponda-Goa-403401-INDIAPowered By : Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 R-3 Kernel 2.4.9(ext3), Mutt 1.3.20i, IceWM "Silence is the true friend that never betrays." - Confucious
Re: kernel 2.4.x
On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 04:51:17PM -0400, Oren Gozlan wrote: | any info about kernel 2.4.x ? | any one have tried it ? I've got 2.4.8 on a testing system. It is the "stock" kernel that was in sid a few weeks ago. It works great for me. devfs and USB is cool too. -D
Re: kernel 2.4.x
On Sunday 26 August 2001 22:51, Oren Gozlan spoke wisely: > any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > any one have tried it ? > > THNX i'm using it in conjunction with testing without _ANY_ problems -- Daniel Kleine-Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: kernel 2.4.x
> > > any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > any one have tried it ? Yeah, it made my OnStream tape backup unusable. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
Re: kernel 2.4.x
On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 04:51:17PM -0400, Oren Gozlan wrote: > any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > any one have tried it ? There is a ton of information on this in the archives. Also a couple links from the debian site - http://www.debian.org/News/2001/20010415 http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html I'm assuming you are running stable. If you want to compile your kernel the non debian way - Look at the "Changes" file in the "Documentation" directory where you unpacked the kernel source. Here you will find a list of programs that must be upgraded. To do so put an 'unstable src' line in /etc/apt/sources.list and - # apt-get update # apt-get -b source package_name This will build a .deb for you. After you have installed all the .debs in question fire away at the new kernel:) hth, kent
Re: kernel 2.4.x
Oren Gozlan wrote: any info about kernel 2.4.x ? any one have tried it ? THNX Yes, I tried it with testing and it messed up my modem config, it also does not allow my local filesystems to unmount at shutdown. -- Work is a function of results, not effort Unknown
Re: kernel 2.4.x
people.debian.org/~bunk got great jobs for potato... On 26 Aug 2001, Oren Gozlan wrote: > any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > any one have tried it ? > > THNX > > > -- > - > Oren Gozlan > Mobixell Networks Inc. > p: +972 9 776 0121 > f: + 972 9 740 7373 > c: +972 54 536 047 > www.mobixell.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > > > > > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
kernel 2.4.x
any info about kernel 2.4.x ? any one have tried it ? THNX -- - Oren Gozlan Mobixell Networks Inc. p: +972 9 776 0121 f: + 972 9 740 7373 c: +972 54 536 047 www.mobixell.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 18)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.9 on a Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. Changes since the last release: + added: kernel-image-2.4.9-i386 Binary packages: o kernel-headers-2.4.9 o kernel-headers-2.4.9-386 o kernel-headers-2.4.9-586 o kernel-headers-2.4.9-586tsc o kernel-headers-2.4.9-686 o kernel-headers-2.4.9-686-smp o kernel-headers-2.4.9-k6 o kernel-image-2.4.9-386 o kernel-image-2.4.9-586 o kernel-image-2.4.9-586tsc o kernel-image-2.4.9-686 o kernel-image-2.4.9-686-smp o kernel-image-2.4.9-k6 + added: kernel-source-2.4.9 Binary packages: o kernel-doc-2.4.9 o kernel-source-2.4.9 o mkcramfs + updated: devfsd (1.3.11-0.1 -> 1.3.17-1) + updated: initrd-tools (0.1.8 -> 0.1.11) + pppoe: Fixed the problem that a script used a syntax that is new in bash version 2.04 - but 2.03 is in potato... + removed: kernel-image-2.4.7-i386 + removed: kernel-source-2.4.7 cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Get my GPG key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | gpg --import Fingerprint: B29C E71E FE19 6755 5C8A 84D4 99FC EA98 4F12 B400
Re: kernel 2.4.x in potato?
On Sun, Aug 12, 2001 at 07:11:25PM -0400, Bob Koss wrote: > took me two tries (forgot to include vfat the first time), but the > apt-get and make-kpkg utilities sure make this a lot easier than it > used to be in RedHat! Sir, your language!!! :-) -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Patton pgpLbvrJlGtcf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: kernel 2.4.x in potato?
> "Wayne" == Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> So, can I upgrade my kernel to 2.4.? Has anybody taken a newly >> installed potato system and just upgraded the kernel to 2.4? >> What headaches are in my future? Wayne> I changed 4 boxen to 2.4.x. No worries. Wayne> Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list # Use these for Wayne> kernel 2.4 update to Potato deb Wayne> http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main Wayne> then run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade Wayne> I use the kernels from ftp.us.kernel.org so don't recall if Wayne> you get the kernel source with the upgrade or not. If not Wayne> you will have to install the source & header packages. Wayne> I don't recall any headaches at all. Do get the latest Wayne> kernel tho. 2.4.7 is running fine here. -- A bug in the Wayne> code is worth two in the documentation. Thank you Wayne. It was indeed as easy as you said it would be. It took me two tries (forgot to include vfat the first time), but the apt-get and make-kpkg utilities sure make this a lot easier than it used to be in RedHat! -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: kernel 2.4.x in potato?
Subject: kernel 2.4.x in potato? Date: Sat, Aug 11, 2001 at 09:53:12AM -0400 In reply to:Bob Koss Quoting Bob Koss([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I'm still trying to get my OnStream tape driving working in Debian. I > was mistaken when I said that the driver was in the kernel. The driver > doesn't appear until 2.4. The kernel patches from OnStream are only > for 2.2.14 and 2.2.16. I'm running potato with 2.2.19. > > So, can I upgrade my kernel to 2.4.? Has anybody taken a newly > installed potato system and just upgraded the kernel to 2.4? What > headaches are in my future? I changed 4 boxen to 2.4.x. No worries. Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list # Use these for kernel 2.4 update to Potato deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main then run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade I use the kernels from ftp.us.kernel.org so don't recall if you get the kernel source with the upgrade or not. If not you will have to install the source & header packages. I don't recall any headaches at all. Do get the latest kernel tho. 2.4.7 is running fine here. -- A bug in the code is worth two in the documentation. ___
kernel 2.4.x in potato?
I'm still trying to get my OnStream tape driving working in Debian. I was mistaken when I said that the driver was in the kernel. The driver doesn't appear until 2.4. The kernel patches from OnStream are only for 2.2.14 and 2.2.16. I'm running potato with 2.2.19. So, can I upgrade my kernel to 2.4.? Has anybody taken a newly installed potato system and just upgraded the kernel to 2.4? What headaches are in my future? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 17)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.7 on a Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. Changes since the last release: + added: kernel-image-2.4.7-i386 Binary packages: o kernel-headers-2.4.7 o kernel-headers-2.4.7-386 o kernel-headers-2.4.7-586 o kernel-headers-2.4.7-586tsc o kernel-headers-2.4.7-686 o kernel-headers-2.4.7-686-smp o kernel-headers-2.4.7-k6 o kernel-image-2.4.7-386 o kernel-image-2.4.7-586 o kernel-image-2.4.7-586tsc o kernel-image-2.4.7-686 o kernel-image-2.4.7-686-smp o kernel-image-2.4.7-k6 + added: kernel-source-2.4.7 Binary packages: o kernel-doc-2.4.7 o kernel-source-2.4.7 o mkcramfs + added: makedev + updated: pcmcia-cs (3.1.25-3 -> 3.1.27-2) + updated: pppoe (3.0-2 -> 3.0-4) + removed: kernel-image-2.4.5-i386 + removed: kernel-source-2.4.5 cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Get my GPG key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | gpg --import Fingerprint: B29C E71E FE19 6755 5C8A 84D4 99FC EA98 4F12 B400
Kernel 2.4.x and IP Problems
Hello, I use an application, which connects over internet to an other machine on high port (56003 / 56005). Since I upgraded to kernel 2.4.5 (with packages from A. Bunk) I get no connection to this other machine. For testing I made "telnet remote.machine.tld 56003" With tcpdump or netstat I see "SYN_SENT", but nothing reaches the the other side. Booting with kernel 2.2.17 - all works fine. All other network-connections works with 2.4.x too. Are there any changes in tcp/ip in kernel 2.4.x? Are there any kernel-variables I have to set to proper values? Ciao Gabriele
Re: Kernel 2.4.x: umount failing during shutdown (devfs?)
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Norbert Nemec wrote: > Hi there, > > I've been using Kernel 2.4.x for quite a while now (2.4.4 at the moment) and > it > really works great, except for one last problem: At shutdown time, the > machine > complains that devfs can't be unmounted, because it is used (remounting ro > instead) I have never seen this before, but I really must ask the question. Why don't you just upgrade to a newer kernel? I know some people have had problems with 2.4.x -z-
Kernel 2.4.x: umount failing during shutdown (devfs?)
Hi there, I've been using Kernel 2.4.x for quite a while now (2.4.4 at the moment) and it really works great, except for one last problem: At shutdown time, the machine complains that devfs can't be unmounted, because it is used (remounting ro instead) Usually, that is not a problem, just an annoying message, but once in a while, the machine does seem to have problem unmounting any partitions as well, resulting in a "not unmounted correctly"-fsck at the next boot - even though I just did a regular shutdown before (not even encountering any special errors in addition to the above) The error message about devfs is shown right the last moment before the machine is switched off, so to read it, I really have to hit SysRq-L (killalL) in just the right moment. On my machine, I have running a standard woody system, I have no idea which details might be of interest in this case. Does anybody have an idea about it? Ciao, Nobbi PS: Please CC me - my internet link is too slow to subscribe comfortably... -- -- __ -- JESUS CHRIST IS LORD! -- To Him, even that machine here has to obey... -- -- _Norbert "Nobbi" Nemec -- Hindenburgstr. 44 ... D-91054 Erlangen ... Germany -- eMail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tel: +49-(0)-9131-204180
Re: kernel 2.4.x: The Mother of all the questions
On 09 Jul 2001, Wayne Topa wrote: > > [snip] > I have been running the 2.4.x kernels since 2.4.2, currently have > 2.4.6 under test. No problems at all on any of the 2.4.x series. > I have 2 other boxes running 2.4.5 but will upgrade then both in a > few days. > > Don't know the oldest Linux user but I will be 63 in November. Also > don't know if I would classify myself as living. :-) I feel very bad > that I had to check out my new Plextor CD/RW drive today, on WinBloze. > I swore I would never use that junk again. Please forgive me for my > lapse in sanity. No problems with 2.4.6 (or any other kernel upgrade). I always boot via loadlin.exe on DOS with makes trying new kernels very safe. Anthony (68, BTW) -- Anthony Campbell - running Gnu/Debian Linux (Windows-free zone). For electronic books (Homeomythology and The Assassins of Alamut), skeptical essays, and over 130 book reviews, go to http://www.acampbell.org.uk/ Man can do what he wants, but he cannot will what he wills. [Schopenhauer]
Re: kernel 2.4.x: The Mother of all the questions
Dear Friends, thank you very much indeed for all your valuable answers. In this very moment on another console I'm just downloading the DEBs of kernel 2.4.5 from Bunk stuff via apt-get dist-upgrade. By the way, I didn't imagine to start that nice side-thread on the age of Debian users which IMHO deserves a deeper survey. As a matter of fact I don't feel that old (as I said 51 y.o.) for dealing with linux of whatever else SO. For all my working life I've been using various SOs and systems not as an information technology man but as a(n advanced) user only, from IBM main frame to PCs. Therefore the skill with linux, poor in my case because I'm a one-year user only, is a matter of mentality acquired over time. In any case I find that the Debian distro suits older people needs better than other slick distros about. Ciao (In Italian means both "Hello" and "Bye-bye") Vittorio Victor [debian-user] <09/07/01 17:08 +>: > Thanks Charlie for your reply, and, by the way, I'm not that much > younger than you are (51) even though still in production :-)! > > What I want (and I have now with kernel 2.2.19!) is a *STABLE* linux > laptop (a) to use also at work (b) to run hylafax as a server when it > is needed, (c) almost invariably to be connected with samba to the > LAN, (d) to use mutt as my pet mail-reader together with exim and > procmail, and, finally at home, (e) to listen to music and to use my > webcam. > > Upgrading to 2.4.x would be that advantageous to my case (remember the > stability issue which is a key factor in a production environment)? > > Ciao > Vittorio > > olgnuby [debian-user] <09/07/01 06:46 -0500>: > > Victor wrote: > > > > > > Having a wonderfully stable debian 2.2r3 box with kernel 2.2.19 > > > compiled & tailored to my laptop's needs, I wonder if it is worth my > > > while upgrading to kernel 2.4.5. > > > > > > My specific focus is on stability. > > > > > > What's your experience on this? > > > > > > Ciao > > > Vittorio > > > > I've seen two or three takes on this this morning. About all I can do is > > echo the sentiments of the respondents to the previous and share my own > > experience. > > > > It's going to be dependent on your own personal needs and wants. > > > > On this AMD 1.2 gig machine, running 2.2r3 I run the 2.4.5 with the ac18 > > patch and a patch for the Lexar JumpSHOT flash memory card reader. The > > ac18 patch is the only practical way I could figure out to get the se401 > > driver I need for my Kensington vidcam unless I run a 2.4.3, or write my > > own patch or what ever and I'm not quite that advanced yet. I've also > > run into problems getting my particular flavor of sound to work properly > > on the earlier kernels without some gymnastics with alsa. > > > > Don't try to compile and run a vanilla kernel from kernel.org unless > > you're a hell of a lot more advanced than I am. The upgrades at > > > > ../people.debian.org/~bunk > > > > are necessary, but are simple using dselect if that, like me is, your > > method. They do the necessary upgrades on modutils, ppp, etc, that you > > would normally have to do on all the other distros I've tried, puts your > > kernel sources in place and then you can do your config, compile and > > install from there. > > > > As someone said a posting or two back, unless you need a lot of exotic > > usb stuff etc. You would more than likely be best off with the generic > > kernel. > > > > Me, hell, I'm 60 retired and not dependent on my computer for much other > > than a toy, so I can afford to blow it out and be down if I screw it up. > > ;-) > > > > Charlie > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: kernel 2.4.x: The Mother of all the questions
Subject: Re: kernel 2.4.x: The Mother of all the questions Date: Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 11:15:29AM -0500 In reply to:olgnuby Quoting olgnuby([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Well, any way, it worked, and yes, like you, I maintain both kernels on > the install. Just in case. Don't like to burn my bridges behind me at > this age where I might need an escape route. Also ref: Victor. At 51, 60 > didn't seem to be all that far away. At 60, looking back, it appears > I've passed the point of no return and regardless how much I'd like, > it's futility to try to turn around now. ;-) > > Stability issues? At this point, I've got only about three days on it, > but so far, the ac18 nor the other good stuff hasn't detracted from Lil > Deb's stability, other than a loss of time, which I've proved in my own > mind beyond a reasonable doubt isn't hardware related, and I've never > before had on this machine until I went past a 2.4 kernel. But I get the > time loss with about four flavors of Linux, so I don't know. Haven't > found anyone who will admit to the same problem though.;-) > > What am I trying to say? "love it" I guess. ;-) > > Charlie > > World's oldest *Living* linux user. ;-) > Registered Linux User # 196055 > I have no idea what my Registered Linux number is. Have been running linux since 94/95 and also love it. I have been running the 2.4.x kernels since 2.4.2, currently have 2.4.6 under test. No problems at all on any of the 2.4.x series. I have 2 other boxes running 2.4.5 but will upgrade then both in a few days. Don't know the oldest Linux user but I will be 63 in November. Also don't know if I would classify myself as living. :-) I feel very bad that I had to check out my new Plextor CD/RW drive today, on WinBloze. I swore I would never use that junk again. Please forgive me for my lapse in sanity. Wayne -- Bad or missing mouse driver. Spank the cat [Y/N]? ___
Re: kernel 2.4.x: The Mother of all the questions
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 11:56:20AM -0400, User zos wrote: > Wow...I wish more older people were as tech savvy as you. I haven't been > able to get my mother at age 43 to even adapt to Windows9x. Just bide your time. At 40 my mom didn't touch the audio system as she thought having to select the radio transeiver on the amplifier was to complex for her to handle. But now at almost 70 she happily sends e-mails, browse the internet and makes small changes to her preference setups all by her self! Helas, she now thinks linux is to complex, so me too, I have to bide my time:) -- groetjes, carel
Re: kernel 2.4.x: The Mother of all the questions
The following is an excerpt from a message I was going to post the day before I decided to go ahead and make the leap anyway. ;-) -- OK! Deb. You win. Been used to doing things my way all my life and a lot of time's I'm used to doing things other Linux ways. Taking a good laugh at myself after a couple of aborted attempts at upgrading to a 2.4.5 kernel on my 2.2r3 and after watching Lil Deb throw a tantrum and go into runaway modprobes, I decided it might be best to do a little RTFM, and so I went ahead and added the deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk to my sources list, sat back and let dselect do the job of getting all my necessary upgrades and kernel sources in place. Question now. I'm going to humble and ask for help. ;-) I want to patch with the ac18 to make use of the se401 driver for my Kensington vidcam and the diffs for the Lexar JumpSHOT usb flashcard reader. Any gotchas involved? Anyone tried it? Is this particular .deb kernel source so far different that it's not amenable to patching. Appreciate any input. -- Well, any way, it worked, and yes, like you, I maintain both kernels on the install. Just in case. Don't like to burn my bridges behind me at this age where I might need an escape route. Also ref: Victor. At 51, 60 didn't seem to be all that far away. At 60, looking back, it appears I've passed the point of no return and regardless how much I'd like, it's futility to try to turn around now. ;-) Stability issues? At this point, I've got only about three days on it, but so far, the ac18 nor the other good stuff hasn't detracted from Lil Deb's stability, other than a loss of time, which I've proved in my own mind beyond a reasonable doubt isn't hardware related, and I've never before had on this machine until I went past a 2.4 kernel. But I get the time loss with about four flavors of Linux, so I don't know. Haven't found anyone who will admit to the same problem though.;-) What am I trying to say? "love it" I guess. ;-) Charlie World's oldest *Living* linux user. ;-) Registered Linux User # 196055 User zos wrote: > > Wow...I wish more older people were as tech savvy as you. I haven't been > able to get my mother at age 43 to even adapt to Windows9x. > > I am using a "vanilla" Linux 2.4.5 kernel asides from making the necessary > updates on my potato distro. The good news is this. You can update > whatever distro you are using and use both 2.2.x and 2.4.x kernels. > On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, olgnuby wrote: > > > Victor wrote: > > > > > > Having a wonderfully stable debian 2.2r3 box with kernel 2.2.19 > > > compiled & tailored to my laptop's needs, I wonder if it is worth my > > > while upgrading to kernel 2.4.5.
Re: kernel 2.4.x: The Mother of all the questions
Wow...I wish more older people were as tech savvy as you. I haven't been able to get my mother at age 43 to even adapt to Windows9x. I am using a "vanilla" Linux 2.4.5 kernel asides from making the necessary updates on my potato distro. The good news is this. You can update whatever distro you are using and use both 2.2.x and 2.4.x kernels. As far as I can tell really because I had some initial problems with my sound card and switched back to 2.2.x before I sorted them out. (Wish the drivers didn't have to be a module but, oh well...) As far as I can tell 2.4.x runs on this Pentium 75 at 133mhz for days without a hiccup. I've loadtested the box too and it does just fine under pretty heavy load. I wouldn't be afraid to take the leap. Just include your old kernel in LILO in case you decide that you wish to switch back for some reason. :) -z- On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, olgnuby wrote: > Victor wrote: > > > > Having a wonderfully stable debian 2.2r3 box with kernel 2.2.19 > > compiled & tailored to my laptop's needs, I wonder if it is worth my > > while upgrading to kernel 2.4.5. > > > > My specific focus is on stability. > > > > What's your experience on this? > > > > Ciao > > Vittorio > > I've seen two or three takes on this this morning. About all I can do is > echo the sentiments of the respondents to the previous and share my own > experience. > > It's going to be dependent on your own personal needs and wants. > > On this AMD 1.2 gig machine, running 2.2r3 I run the 2.4.5 with the ac18 > patch and a patch for the Lexar JumpSHOT flash memory card reader. The > ac18 patch is the only practical way I could figure out to get the se401 > driver I need for my Kensington vidcam unless I run a 2.4.3, or write my > own patch or what ever and I'm not quite that advanced yet. I've also > run into problems getting my particular flavor of sound to work properly > on the earlier kernels without some gymnastics with alsa. > > Don't try to compile and run a vanilla kernel from kernel.org unless > you're a hell of a lot more advanced than I am. The upgrades at > > ../people.debian.org/~bunk > > are necessary, but are simple using dselect if that, like me is, your > method. They do the necessary upgrades on modutils, ppp, etc, that you > would normally have to do on all the other distros I've tried, puts your > kernel sources in place and then you can do your config, compile and > install from there. > > As someone said a posting or two back, unless you need a lot of exotic > usb stuff etc. You would more than likely be best off with the generic > kernel. > > Me, hell, I'm 60 retired and not dependent on my computer for much other > than a toy, so I can afford to blow it out and be down if I screw it up. > ;-) > > Charlie > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: kernel 2.4.x: The Mother of all the questions
Thanks Charlie for your reply, and, by the way, I'm not that much younger than you are (51) even though still in production :-)! What I want (and I have now with kernel 2.2.19!) is a *STABLE* linux laptop (a) to use also at work (b) to run hylafax as a server when it is needed, (c) almost invariably to be connected with samba to the LAN, (d) to use mutt as my pet mail-reader together with exim and procmail, and, finally at home, (e) to listen to music and to use my webcam. Upgrading to 2.4.x would be that advantageous to my case (remember the stability issue which is a key factor in a production environment)? Ciao Vittorio olgnuby [debian-user] <09/07/01 06:46 -0500>: > Victor wrote: > > > > Having a wonderfully stable debian 2.2r3 box with kernel 2.2.19 > > compiled & tailored to my laptop's needs, I wonder if it is worth my > > while upgrading to kernel 2.4.5. > > > > My specific focus is on stability. > > > > What's your experience on this? > > > > Ciao > > Vittorio > > I've seen two or three takes on this this morning. About all I can do is > echo the sentiments of the respondents to the previous and share my own > experience. > > It's going to be dependent on your own personal needs and wants. > > On this AMD 1.2 gig machine, running 2.2r3 I run the 2.4.5 with the ac18 > patch and a patch for the Lexar JumpSHOT flash memory card reader. The > ac18 patch is the only practical way I could figure out to get the se401 > driver I need for my Kensington vidcam unless I run a 2.4.3, or write my > own patch or what ever and I'm not quite that advanced yet. I've also > run into problems getting my particular flavor of sound to work properly > on the earlier kernels without some gymnastics with alsa. > > Don't try to compile and run a vanilla kernel from kernel.org unless > you're a hell of a lot more advanced than I am. The upgrades at > > ../people.debian.org/~bunk > > are necessary, but are simple using dselect if that, like me is, your > method. They do the necessary upgrades on modutils, ppp, etc, that you > would normally have to do on all the other distros I've tried, puts your > kernel sources in place and then you can do your config, compile and > install from there. > > As someone said a posting or two back, unless you need a lot of exotic > usb stuff etc. You would more than likely be best off with the generic > kernel. > > Me, hell, I'm 60 retired and not dependent on my computer for much other > than a toy, so I can afford to blow it out and be down if I screw it up. > ;-) > > Charlie > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: kernel 2.4.x: The Mother of all the questions
Victor wrote: > > Having a wonderfully stable debian 2.2r3 box with kernel 2.2.19 > compiled & tailored to my laptop's needs, I wonder if it is worth my > while upgrading to kernel 2.4.5. > > My specific focus is on stability. > > What's your experience on this? > > Ciao > Vittorio I've seen two or three takes on this this morning. About all I can do is echo the sentiments of the respondents to the previous and share my own experience. It's going to be dependent on your own personal needs and wants. On this AMD 1.2 gig machine, running 2.2r3 I run the 2.4.5 with the ac18 patch and a patch for the Lexar JumpSHOT flash memory card reader. The ac18 patch is the only practical way I could figure out to get the se401 driver I need for my Kensington vidcam unless I run a 2.4.3, or write my own patch or what ever and I'm not quite that advanced yet. I've also run into problems getting my particular flavor of sound to work properly on the earlier kernels without some gymnastics with alsa. Don't try to compile and run a vanilla kernel from kernel.org unless you're a hell of a lot more advanced than I am. The upgrades at ../people.debian.org/~bunk are necessary, but are simple using dselect if that, like me is, your method. They do the necessary upgrades on modutils, ppp, etc, that you would normally have to do on all the other distros I've tried, puts your kernel sources in place and then you can do your config, compile and install from there. As someone said a posting or two back, unless you need a lot of exotic usb stuff etc. You would more than likely be best off with the generic kernel. Me, hell, I'm 60 retired and not dependent on my computer for much other than a toy, so I can afford to blow it out and be down if I screw it up. ;-) Charlie
kernel 2.4.x: The Mother of all the questions
Having a wonderfully stable debian 2.2r3 box with kernel 2.2.19 compiled & tailored to my laptop's needs, I wonder if it is worth my while upgrading to kernel 2.4.5. My specific focus is on stability. What's your experience on this? Ciao Vittorio
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 16)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.5 on a Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. Changes since the last release: + added: quota + added: rarpd + updated: e2fsprogs (1.20-1 -> 1.22-1) + updated: ppp (2.4.0f-1 -> 2.4.1-1) cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Nicht weil die Dinge schwierig sind wagen wir sie nicht, sondern weil wir sie nicht wagen sind sie schwierig.
portsentry + kernel 2.4.x
This is the same message I sent to another mailing list, I am really frustrated. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Hi All, I am having a problem with portsentry on kernel 2.4.5 machines. When using kernel 2.2.19 on the same machine, there is no problem (and it happens on two different compiles of 2.4.5). The problem: portsentry is having false positive port scans. Nobody is scanning me on ports 79 or 111, but it is reporting that people are (I am running both portsentry AND snort, which is how I know scans are *not* happening; I have also watched traffic with ethereal and found nothing abnormal). This happens to the point that portsentry is taking up 40-70% CPU. I searched on google and found a hit on a debian-laptop post, but all people said was "sounds like finger and RPC, what are you running", which is not the problem. Portsentry cannot tell me where the scans are coming from. Snort was reporting scans from our DNS' but I put those in the portsentry ignore. We are thinking it is misdiagnosing local (on-machine) traffic as not coming from localhost when it really is but that doesn't explain how to *fix* it without breaking/removing portsentry. Here is what the syslog entries look like: Jun 15 15:10:01 tonto portsentry[3146]: attackalert: Possible stealth scan from unknown host to TCP port: 111 (accept failed) Jun 15 15:10:31 tonto last message repeated 540822 times Jun 15 15:11:32 tonto last message repeated 1106736 times Jun 15 15:12:33 tonto last message repeated 1109614 times Jun 15 15:13:34 tonto last message repeated 1104765 times Jun 15 15:14:35 tonto last message repeated 1110612 times It used to say the same thing but was for port 79. Somehow it switched from 79 to 111 after I nmapped myself (to see how it would respond). With portsentry running, the following ports are open: Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA22 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) Interesting ports on tonto (127.0.0.1): (The 1509 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) Port State Service 1/tcp opentcpmux 9/tcp opendiscard 11/tcp opensystat 13/tcp opendaytime 15/tcp opennetstat 22/tcp openssh 23/tcp opentelnet 25/tcp opensmtp 37/tcp opentime 79/tcp openfinger 80/tcp openhttp 111/tcpopensunrpc 113/tcpopenauth 119/tcpopennntp 139/tcpopennetbios-ssn 143/tcpopenimap2 540/tcpopenuucp 631/tcpopencups 635/tcpopenunknown 859/tcpopenunknown 1080/tcp opensocks 1524/tcp openingreslock 2000/tcp opencallbook 6000/tcp openX11 6667/tcp openirc 12345/tcp openNetBus 12346/tcp openNetBus 31337/tcp openElite 32771/tcp opensometimes-rpc5 32772/tcp opensometimes-rpc7 32773/tcp opensometimes-rpc9 32774/tcp opensometimes-rpc11 54320/tcp openbo2k Without portsentry running, the following ports are open: Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA22 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) Interesting ports on tonto (127.0.0.1): (The 1529 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) Port State Service 9/tcp opendiscard 13/tcp opendaytime 22/tcp openssh 23/tcp opentelnet 25/tcp opensmtp 37/tcp opentime 80/tcp openhttp 111/tcpopensunrpc 113/tcpopenauth 139/tcpopennetbios-ssn 631/tcpopencups 859/tcpopenunknown 6000/tcp openX11 Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0 seconds I am running: tonto:/home/colby# uname -a Linux tonto 2.4.5 #1 Thu Jun 14 13:47:38 PDT 2001 i686 unknown on: tonto:/home/colby# cat /etc/debian_version testing/unstable Kernel was made with kernel-package: Package: kernel-image-2.4.5 Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: base Installed-Size: 2824 Maintainer: Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Source: kernel-source-2.4.5 Version:
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 15)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.5 on a Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. Changes since the last release: + added: amd + added: am-utils + added: pppoe + added: kernel-image-2.4.5-i386 Binary packages: o kernel-headers-2.4.5 o kernel-headers-2.4.5-386 o kernel-headers-2.4.5-586 o kernel-headers-2.4.5-586tsc o kernel-headers-2.4.5-686 o kernel-headers-2.4.5-686-smp o kernel-headers-2.4.5-k6 o kernel-image-2.4.5-386 o kernel-image-2.4.5-586 o kernel-image-2.4.5-586tsc o kernel-image-2.4.5-686 o kernel-image-2.4.5-686-smp o kernel-image-2.4.5-k6 + added: kernel-source-2.4.5 Binary packages: o kernel-doc-2.4.5 o kernel-source-2.4.5 o mkcramfs + updated: e2fsprogs (1.19-3 -> 1.20-1) New binary package: o e2fsck-static + updated: initrd-tools (0.1.7 -> 0.1.8) + updated: iptables (1.2.1a-2 -> 1.2.2-2) + Make lm-sensors-source installable on potato. + removed: kernel-image-2.4.4-i386 + removed: kernel-source-2.4.4 cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Nicht weil die Dinge schwierig sind wagen wir sie nicht, sondern weil wir sie nicht wagen sind sie schwierig.
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 14)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.4 on a Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. The most important change is that there's now a second architecture (sparc). Thanks to Marco for compiling the packages! Changes since the last release: + there are now sparc packages compiled by Marco Gaiarin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + added: lm-sensors Binary packages: o libsensors1 o libsensors-dev o lm-sensors o lm-sensors-source o sensord cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Nicht weil die Dinge schwierig sind wagen wir sie nicht, sondern weil wir sie nicht wagen sind sie schwierig.
Packages to run kernel 2.4.x on potato (release 13)
I have prepared the packages needed to run kernels up to 2.4.4 on a Debian 2.2r3 (potato) system. Please read [1] for more information. Changes since the last release: + added: varmon + updated: modutils (2.4.2-1 -> 2.4.6-3) + fixed the problem that isdnutils shipped (empty) /usr/share/doc directories of other packages cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Nicht weil die Dinge schwierig sind wagen wir sie nicht, sondern weil wir sie nicht wagen sind sie schwierig.
PCTEL driver for kernel 2.4.x: Announcement:
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:43:26 +0200 > From: Jan Stifter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Announcement: PCTEL driver for kernel 2.4.x > > hello, > > The driver version is: >PCTEL Linux PCI driver, version 4.27.211 > It should work on all 2.4.x kernels. > > http://www.medres.ch/~jstifter/linux/pctel.html > > Please read the FAQ and README before posting me questions. > > Note: It seems, that the parameter "country_code=X" has changed from > the 2.2.x driver to "country=X" in the 2.4.x driver. If you upgrade > your kernel and driver, you have to change your /etc/modules.conf or > your start scripts. > For kernel 2.2.x use: insmod ptserial country_code=X > For kernel 2.4.x use: insmod ptserial country=X > > Have fun > jan > Original Message Subject: Re: Announcement: PCTEL driver for kernel 2.4.x Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:57:55 -0500 From: David Mehringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jan Stifter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jan, Thanks! Works like a charm. The only place I got hung up was on modversions.h. I had a modversions.h in /usr/include/linux and tried to create an appropriate symlink but make complained that I shouldn't use this system file. I then realized I didn't actually have the kernel source installed, so got it off of RH 7.1 CD 2 (RedHat/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.2-2.i386.rpm). After doing cd /usr/src; ln -s linux-2.4.2 linux make;make install proceeded as advertised and minicom (and eventually RH PPP dialer) found the modem and were able to connect to my ISP. I can now disconnect my external modem until at least my next upgrade. Dave On Tue, 15 May 2001, Jan Stifter wrote: -- David Mehringer, Ph.D.University of Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Center for Supercomputing Research Scientist, Applications/Department of Astronomy Software Applications Developer, 1002 W. Green St. BIMA Data Archivist Urbana, IL 61801 USA voice: 217 244 5468 fax: 217 244 7638 http://monet.astro.uiuc.edu/~dmehring/dmehring.html
Re: Lilo.conf Cant boot the 2.2.19 with kernel 2.4.x
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 01:46:37AM -0600, GMAN wrote: > I am trying to get lilo.conf to load up the latest kernel I recently > installed, but I am lost at this since I am a total newbie. Any help will be > greatly appreciated. > If you installed with kernel-package you could probably get by with just running "lilo" again. cd to / do a ls -l vmlinuz that link should be pointed to your new kernel. You should also have a link pointing to your old kernel. Probably "vmlinuz.old" At any rate you want to point the entry "image=" in /etc/lilo.conf to your kernels. Here is an example - image=/vmlinuz label=deb2.4 read-only root=/dev/hda12 image=/vmlinuz.old label=deb2.2.18 read-only root=/dev/hda12 After you set that up run - # /sbin/lilo if you get a "geometry" error - # /sbin/lilo -L Then reboot. kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke
Lilo.conf Cant boot the 2.2.19 with kernel 2.4.x
I am trying to get lilo.conf to load up the latest kernel I recently installed, but I am lost at this since I am a total newbie. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Dan
