On 8. December 2003 at 7:17PM +0100,
Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> csj (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> > On 7. December 2003 at 10:52PM +0100,
> > Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> You can of course use predefined connections with pon/poff if
> >> you are in the dip group, and you can create your own ones for
> >> use with kppp /without/ kppp being suid root, if you are in the
> >> dialout group.
> > 
> > It's the "predefined" part that's the problem.  Let's say I'm on
> > vacation and my friend borrows my computer.  He reads about a
> > promo from Dirt-Cheap-ISP and decides to subscribe.  How is he
> > going to enter his login details, without going root, to connect
> > to Dirt-Cheap-ISP?  It seems his only choice is kppp, which needs
> > to be suid root to make it user configurable.
> 
> No, again: kppp /does/ /not/ have to be suid root. I use kppp to dial in
> using login and passwort defined within kppp, and it is not suid root:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ll /usr/bin/kppp
> -rwxr-sr--    1 root     dip          405k 11. Sep 13:48 /usr/bin/kppp
> 
> I am member of the dip and dialout groups, and it works.

Yes, it seems it's now setgid.  When I last used it, I had to
resort to the setuid hack.

But I can't get it to work out of the box (or out of the package
;-).  To be sure, I never bothered doing any root-level
configuration (inasmuch as I see the goal of Gnome and KDE to be
idiot friendliness).  All I inputed are my login name and
password.  kppp doesn't even get to the point where the modem
starts making its signature noise.  I assume I have the right
permissions, since I can use minicom, efax and pon and friends
without any problems.

Are you sure you didn't modify anything under /etc/{ppp,chatscripts}?


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