Re: kppp dialing process hang up on 'starting pppd'. (was: bug in ppp - grave)
Hi Scott, of course, this shall not change to my problem. As you suggest, I will change from umtsmon to kppp and see, if this will work with latest ppp. If it doesn't, I will be pleased to help as well as I can. And sorry for my statements, I just wanted to explain, why I stated ppp to be buggy. Hope, the operators problem will be soon to be fixed. Best regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109271113.07510.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: kppp dialing process hang up on 'starting pppd'. (was: bug in ppp - grave)
Hi Scott, you are right, I mentioned umtsmon. But the problem was not beeing umtsmon updated, but ppp updated. Umtsmon is just a GUI to call ppp with additional parameters, nothing else. So the problem was IMO in ppp, as the only thing, which was changed, was the ppp binary, NOT umtsmon. I tried to explain that to the maintainers, but they seemed not to understand. So, kppp is just another GUI for ppp, which is just doing the same - calling ppp with additional options. BTW, I tried several other GUIs for ppp (also the one from Vodafone, the result was NONE of them worked with ppp from testing or unstable. Reverting back to the old one, ALL of them worked. So IMO it is a fault and a bug in ppp, nothing else. But I do not want to quarrel, so I found my solution in using the old stuff and setting it to hold. Some day another people may havbe the same problem with ppp and may explain better than me. No problem, I can wait. Maybe you now understand, why I pointed to ppp itself. Best regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109262039.40636.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: kppp dialing process hang up on 'starting pppd'. (was: bug in ppp - grave)
On 27/09/11 04:39, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi Scott, you are right, I mentioned umtsmon. I read the log. Even if I hadn't had problems in the past - which were solved by abandoning UMTSmon, I'd still call UMTSmon the problem *based* on the errors in your log. But the problem was not beeing umtsmon updated, but ppp updated. Umtsmon is just a GUI to call ppp with additional parameters, nothing else. Well - that's your opinion (and surely you are entitled to it) :-) It's why I/we stopped using UMTSmon and moved to Kppp. Works for us as *we* want the fixes from the updated pppd. I gave you the means to test your assumptions about UMTSmon and pppd (remove UMTSmon from the dialup process, and if you can connect the problem cannot be pppd). So the problem was IMO in ppp, as the only thing, which was changed, was the ppp binary, NOT umtsmon. I tried to explain that to the maintainers, but they seemed not to understand. So, kppp is just another GUI for ppp, which is just doing the same - calling ppp with additional options. BTW, I tried several other GUIs for ppp (also the one from Vodafone, the result was NONE of them worked with ppp from testing or unstable. Reverting back to the old one, ALL of them worked. So IMO it is a fault and a bug in ppp, nothing else. But I do not want to quarrel, so I found my solution in using the old stuff and setting it to hold. Some day another people may havbe the same problem with ppp and may explain better than me. No problem, I can wait. Maybe you now understand, why I pointed to ppp itself. I understand your reasoning (I believe it's flawed) - meanwhile the rest of the world, including users of the identical modem, are connecting without problem. As 3G/UMTS is the only means of internet I have I basically have no choice but to disagree (mine works, everyone I know has no problems etc). Best regards Hans Hope you solve your problems - though I suspect they won't solve themselves. Perhaps now we can return the thread to the original poster. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e811ee9.8060...@gmail.com
Re: kppp dialing process hang up on 'starting pppd'. (was: bug in ppp - grave)
On 25/09/11 17:58, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi Scott, this is, what I sent to the maintainer of the package and sent to buglist. The answer was: There is no bug in it. So, why do older versions work and the other (after his massive changes no more?) Hi Hans - you don't seem to be the original poster. *I just asked for a link to the bugreport*.. Your log indicates a problem with *UMTSmon* - not *ppp(d)*. The OP is posting about a problem with Kppp - (your logs don't indicate problem with Kppp *either*.) Please start a new thread if you'd like to solve your, unrelated, problem. Suggestions below (Hans):- Network manager seems to interfere with other programs like Kppp and UMTSmon broken... try not to install it when you plan on using another management tool. To rule out UMTSmon as the problem try:- # echo echo AT+CPIN=3521^M^M /dev/ttyUSB0 # pppd ttyUSB0 460800 nodetach defaultroute noipdefault noauth lock usepeerdns debug debug connect 'chat at at OK atf OK atz OK at+cgdcont=1,'IP','gint.b-online.gr' OK atdt*99# CONNECT' user o2 password password NOTES: change passord to o2 *if* password fails. You were running:- idle 7200 noauth asyncmap 0 updetach dump debug debug debug 460800 lock crtscts modem /dev/ttyUSB0 noipx defaultroute replacedefaultroute usepeerdns user o2 password o2 I suspect that if you'd upgraded UMTSmon when you upgraded pppd you would't have had the problem - even though your UMTSmon settings seem non-optimal. If UMTSmon was a Debian package this might not have happened - if you are also running networkmanager that's another possible conflict. snipped Hans-J. Ullrich Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e7fe428.8000...@gmail.com
