Replacement of Linuxconf in debian?
Is there a replacement of Linuxconf (the one with RedHat) in Debian/unstable? Thanks JSS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened to linuxconf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 10:01:04AM -0500, Lance Simmons wrote: > > > Welcome to the heard. > > > > What did you hear? > > Or, rather, who heard you? It's not like GNU spells Hurd right either. 8:o) - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fjH/UzgNqloQMwcRAgLUAKDGDrH8ypmBCnKIWdczXqxEub9ukwCgi2g3 hNAEr+NyztsT9rRRSJJF5NE= =heyk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened to linuxconf
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031003 09:39]: > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 08:00, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > Welcome to the heard. > > What did you hear? Or, rather, who heard you? -- Lance Simmons -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#213931: What happened to linuxconf
Package: passwd Version: 4.0.3-8 Severity: minor On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 06:33:50AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:07:39PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > You don't need root privileges in order to run chfn! > > You do if you want to change your name. Oops, I stand corrected. The man page is misleading here: chfn changes user fullname, office number, office extension, and home phone number information for a user's account. This information is typically printed by finger(1) and similiar pro- grams. A normal user may only change the fields for her own account, the super user may change the fields for any account. Also, only the super user may use the -o option to change the undefined portions of the GECOS field. No hint there that only the super user may change the fullname field, so here's a bug report. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened to linuxconf
On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 08:00, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:02:34PM +0200, Debian User wrote: > > sorry for me beeing called "Debian user" on my system, but i was just a little > > inattentive in the base-install and i am just new to linux - after heavy > > virus - attacks decided to switch over. > > Welcome to the heard. You can change your full name by running What did you hear? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA An ad run by the NEA (the US's biggest public school TEACHERS UNION) in the Spring and Summer of 2003 asks a teenager if he can find sodium and *chloride* in the periodic table of the elements. And they wonder why people think public schools suck... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened to linuxconf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:07:39PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > You don't need root privileges in order to run chfn! You do if you want to change your name. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fXq+UzgNqloQMwcRAjygAJ4pLtdwWV+cwPOBuGUPljmY5Y8LqACgyd2n BdtrTInR8BwD8ArRXCAJqv4= =R+JV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened to linuxconf
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 06:00:44AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:02:34PM +0200, Debian User wrote: > > sorry for me beeing called "Debian user" on my system, but i was > > just a little inattentive in the base-install and i am just new to > > linux - after heavy virus - attacks decided to switch over. > > Welcome to the heard. You can change your full name by running > $ su -c chfn > > su will ask you your root password. You don't need root privileges in order to run chfn! $ chfn -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What happened to linuxconf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 02:02:34PM +0200, Debian User wrote: > sorry for me beeing called "Debian user" on my system, but i was just a little > inattentive in the base-install and i am just new to linux - after heavy > virus - attacks decided to switch over. Welcome to the heard. You can change your full name by running $ su -c chfn su will ask you your root password. > I did an apt-cache search linuxconf and it dind perfectly on stable but on > testing the Message: > "e: Couldn't find Package Linuxconf" > appeared. Linuxconf is RH specific, whereas the basic tools get the job done just as well. KUser can also do this for you if you haven't gotten used to the command line, yet. Get used to using the command line if at all possible. This doesn't mean you can't use GUIs, just you really, really should know how to do it if you can't get X to work or you end up in single-user land for some reason. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/fXL7UzgNqloQMwcRAlSTAJ9MVg0DlNCb+9G2j2HCHNqRwm1pfgCgggMK wEQGLEu76NBVaQ0Y61zJ6Y4= =kDIF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What happened to linuxconf
hi, sorry for me beeing called "Debian user" on my system, but i was just a little inattentive in the base-install and i am just new to linux - after heavy virus - attacks decided to switch over. Now i don't know how to change my real name in order to appear correct in Mails send out by mutt again. I thought of linuxconf, because it runs well with command-line and lynx isn't so well with webmin, and adduser manpage is just to complicated. I just want to change the behavior of "Debian User" to "Attila Konietzka", Would be nice if anyone could tell me how. I did an apt-cache search linuxconf and it dind perfectly on stable but on testing the Message: "e: Couldn't find Package Linuxconf" appeared. Surely i could edit my /etc/apt/sources.list, change testing to stable do an apt-get update and get my linuxconf and do it all the other way round, but for a so tightly system-integrated tool like linuxconf it all doesn't make sense and looks primarily like a brillinat idea but infact after looking closer like a pseudo-solution, because i don't know of any incompatibilities between stable and testing and the interferences that linuxconf might cause on a mixed-up-system. So if anyone also could be so kind and tell me what has happened to linuxconf i'd be very glad. Please include me in your cc, becuase i'm not subscribed to this list. thanks and Regards, Attila. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get install linuxconf, error while processing slrn
Dear Linuxer: I try to apt-get linuxconf, it encounter error end as Errors wre encountered while processing: slrn please help on that also I already have lprng install but when i try to print a file lpr try Get_local_host: hostname 'progeny.linuxspice.com' bad also my apache webserver seem not work by similar reason, when I try to access my own website, www.registereddomained.com, it rpsonse conenction refused when attempting to contact 12.34.56.78 also my motherboard(intel D845PESV) have built in Lan(eepro I guess) but I modprobe eepro /lib/modules/2.4.20-686/kernel/drivers/net/eepro.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg /lib/modules/2.4.20-686/kernel/drivers/net/eepro.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.20-686/kernel/drivers/net/eepro.o failed /lib/modules/2.4.20-686/kernel/drivers/net/eepro.o: insmod eepro failed how to let it work?(work with 3com card now I use, so I will connect the other to my xp pc to webserve it to broadcast from xp, in windowXP intel's onboard Lan have no problem connect to internet) highly apprecaite your help and effort and time sincere Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debconf and linuxconf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 01:16:17PM -0300, Klaus Imgrund wrote: > When I have to type something like abcd it works fine but when I have to > mark or unmark options nothing happens - tried already about 100 different > keycombinations. 1) Don't use Linuxconf. It's meant for RPM based distros and I've seen it confuse things on Debian. 2) dpkg-reconfigure is how you use debconf. From that point it's self explainatory. - -- Baloo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9DYG0NtWkM9Ny9xURAsnlAKCW6Qs/JY/rhCPvCLqGSt/fR9SHgwCffgT1 JoIZqzUpvk6hshPYF7xa2Z4= =jC2Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debconf and linuxconf
Happy fathers day to all, I have a little problem with linuxconf and debconf - can't change any settings there. When I have to type something like abcd it works fine but when I have to mark or unmark options nothing happens - tried already about 100 different keycombinations. Sorry bout the stupid question. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can I use linuxconf to configure printer (module Lprng)
On 29/01/02 eric did speaketh: > Dear Debian users: > >I tried to used linuxconf to configure my local printer, I download > module Lprng, it not work, seem not compatable, since it work good at > redhat7.2. > > need any advancer 's suggestion and thanks in advance I just used magicfilter on my HP Deskjet 812C and it worked perfectly. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix pgpCt895bF8NX.pgp Description: PGP signature
can I use linuxconf to configure printer (module Lprng)
Dear Debian users: I tried to used linuxconf to configure my local printer, I download module Lprng, it not work, seem not compatable, since it work good at redhat7.2. need any advancer 's suggestion and thanks in advance eric
Re: linuxconf can not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 11 January 2002 04:09 pm, ben wrote: > On Friday 11 January 2002 01:28 pm, John Hasler wrote: > > Ron Johnson writes: > > > There's also "broken" like, what if I was using linuxconf to configure > > > certain things. Then, when I reboot, certain things aren't started > > > correctly. > > > > Then linuxconf is badly broken. > > i used, then tossed, linuxconf, tossed for the simple reason that it didn't > work and simply screwed every .conf file, etc., that it touched. before you > get rid of it, make a note of what you tried to use it for, check those > areas using whatever filemanager or other utility works for you to be sure > things are as you need them to be, and simply get rid of linuxconf and > reboot your machine. linuxconf is a useless piece of crap--unless you > intend to screw up your system. dump it and get on with your life. I wasn't using it for anything... So, if the system wasn't, either, then no problem... I removed it, and rebooted. No problem... - -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org | || ! "Millions of Chinese speak Chinese, and it's not | ! hereditary..."| !Dr. Dean Adell(sp?) ! ++ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8P3IGjTz5dS9Us5wRAm57AJ0WWd8idS5AEEFNZTJZQi/Y8UqPaQCfS4Sw ENIqVvNLTz+N9bGLxZdTkTE= =ECXH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: linuxconf can not work
On Friday 11 January 2002 01:28 pm, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: > > There's also "broken" like, what if I was using linuxconf to configure > > certain things. Then, when I reboot, certain things aren't started > > correctly. > > Then linuxconf is badly broken. i used, then tossed, linuxconf, tossed for the simple reason that it didn't work and simply screwed every .conf file, etc., that it touched. before you get rid of it, make a note of what you tried to use it for, check those areas using whatever filemanager or other utility works for you to be sure things are as you need them to be, and simply get rid of linuxconf and reboot your machine. linuxconf is a useless piece of crap--unless you intend to screw up your system. dump it and get on with your life.
Re: linuxconf can not work
Ron Johnson writes: > There's also "broken" like, what if I was using linuxconf to configure > certain things. Then, when I reboot, certain things aren't started > correctly. Then linuxconf is badly broken. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin
Re: linuxconf can not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 11 January 2002 12:35 pm, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: > > No dependancy problems. That doesn't mean that removing it wouldn't put > > the machine is a broken state, though, the next time it boots > > Yes it does. Well, there's "broken" like "missing files", and you are right, apt will see to that. There's also "broken" like, what if I was using linuxconf to configure certain things. Then, when I reboot, certain things aren't started correctly. - -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org | || ! "Millions of Chinese speak Chinese, and it's not | ! hereditary..."| !Dr. Dean Adell(sp?) ! ++ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8PztrjTz5dS9Us5wRAr3oAJ9LHf+PWCEECeNlhfTVjbZwdt14KACbBl08 2qH3XzdfihpN2KKYFC2hGA0= =kZOJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: linuxconf can not work
Ron Johnson writes: > No dependancy problems. That doesn't mean that removing it wouldn't put > the machine is a broken state, though, the next time it boots Yes it does. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: linuxconf can not work
* Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 11 January 2002 11:37 am, John Hasler wrote: > > Ron Johnson writes: > > > What are the ramifications of removing linuxconf? > > > > A little more space on your disk. > > > > > Woody installed it by default... > > > > Then there is strange a bug somewhere. Linuxconf is 'Priority: optional'. > > > > More likely, either you installed it or you installed something that > > depends on it. As far as I can see only linuxconf-dev and linuxconf-i18n > > depend on linuxconf. > > Well, I guess I'll just free up a little disk space... > > Good move. I originally installed from Libranet (commercial Debian distribution), had no end of trouble, and thus my system runs beautifully without it. Consider it parasitic. Cam -- Cam Ellison Ph.D. R.Psych. From Roberts Creek on B.C.'s incomparable Sunshine Coast [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linuxconf can not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 11 January 2002 11:37 am, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: > > What are the ramifications of removing linuxconf? > > A little more space on your disk. > > > Woody installed it by default... > > Then there is strange a bug somewhere. Linuxconf is 'Priority: optional'. > > More likely, either you installed it or you installed something that > depends on it. As far as I can see only linuxconf-dev and linuxconf-i18n > depend on linuxconf. Well, I guess I'll just free up a little disk space... - -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org | || ! "Millions of Chinese speak Chinese, and it's not | ! hereditary..."| !Dr. Dean Adell(sp?) ! ++ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Pyw0jTz5dS9Us5wRAomqAJ9Dx86VGvGp05dbTF5vMCI7K6YTfwCdHoi/ gxppJ8TjhJsWXvCSkUXR3KI= =cGCJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: linuxconf can not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 11 January 2002 11:32 am, dman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 11:11:25AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > Why would woody install it by default? I've installed woody (well, > potato base then dist-upgrade) and it didn't try to install it. I didn't install it by manually... > Do > apt-get -s remove --purge linuxconf > to see what apt will do if you try to remove it. Already tried. No dependancy problems. That doesn't mean that removing it wouldn't put the machine is a broken state, though, the next time it boots (if linuxconf is doing something important). - -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org | || ! "Millions of Chinese speak Chinese, and it's not | ! hereditary..."| !Dr. Dean Adell(sp?) ! ++ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8PyNrjTz5dS9Us5wRApTUAJ4w6GGW0kfrg5uaLyJ00ATl7FL6HACeKePU 4RcDL2ptVqHiuxzt6sVK2M4= =SF2d -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: linuxconf can not work
Ron Johnson writes: > What are the ramifications of removing linuxconf? A little more space on your disk. > Woody installed it by default... Then there is strange a bug somewhere. Linuxconf is 'Priority: optional'. More likely, either you installed it or you installed something that depends on it. As far as I can see only linuxconf-dev and linuxconf-i18n depend on linuxconf. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: linuxconf can not work
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 11:11:25AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | On Friday 11 January 2002 10:05 am, dman wrote: | > On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 05:27:52PM +0800, wang wrote: | [snip] | > and throw linuxconf away. It's for RedHat systems, not Debian, and | > likely won't do any good on a Debian system. Instead use $EDITOR for | > configuration and RTFM to see how to configure things, and where. | > Don't forget to ask the list if you can't figure it out on your own. | | What are the ramifications of removing linuxconf? Woody installed | it by default... Why would woody install it by default? I've installed woody (well, potato base then dist-upgrade) and it didn't try to install it. Do apt-get -s remove --purge linuxconf to see what apt will do if you try to remove it. -D -- Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light. Matthew 11:28-30
Re: linuxconf can not work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 11 January 2002 10:05 am, dman wrote: > On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 05:27:52PM +0800, wang wrote: [snip] > and throw linuxconf away. It's for RedHat systems, not Debian, and > likely won't do any good on a Debian system. Instead use $EDITOR for > configuration and RTFM to see how to configure things, and where. > Don't forget to ask the list if you can't figure it out on your own. What are the ramifications of removing linuxconf? Woody installed it by default... - -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Jefferson, LA USA http://ronandheather.dhs.org | || ! "Millions of Chinese speak Chinese, and it's not | ! hereditary..."| !Dr. Dean Adell(sp?) ! ++ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Pxy9jTz5dS9Us5wRAjG8AJ9ZS7x0oVb88Wu08wRBYMMXAG+ONwCffjl2 BtldvNzTo+bJ/QdMaCSJZPQ= =2HV0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: linuxconf can not work
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, wang wrote: > HELLO! > i build a sys with debain 2.4.17 kernel > linuxconf 1.26r4-1 > i used linuxconf to change ip address but it no use > System stilly have the old ip address > How can i debug this ? > Many thanks > Forget it. Use webmin instead. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's a girl! See the pictures - http://www.braincells.com/shailaja/
Re: linuxconf can not work
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 05:27:52PM +0800, wang wrote: | HELLO! | i build a sys with debain 2.4.17 kernel | linuxconf 1.26r4-1 | i used linuxconf to change ip address but it no use | System stilly have the old ip address | How can i debug this ? first man interfaces then $EDITOR /etc/network/interfaces and throw linuxconf away. It's for RedHat systems, not Debian, and likely won't do any good on a Debian system. Instead use $EDITOR for configuration and RTFM to see how to configure things, and where. Don't forget to ask the list if you can't figure it out on your own. -D -- The wise in heart are called discerning, and pleasant words promote instruction. Proverbs 16:21
linuxconf can not work
HELLO! i build a sys with debain 2.4.17 kernel linuxconf 1.26r4-1 i used linuxconf to change ip address but it no use System stilly have the old ip address How can i debug this ? Many thanks wang
Linuxconf doesn't do anything...
Hello there! I apt-got linuxconf, It runs and all that, but so far, whatever I've tryed, it doesn't seem to affect my system, except on creating groups and users... Last night I tryed to configure the network using it and although it saves (somewhere) the changes I made, it never reflected them in /etc/network/interfaces... And some other stuff I've tryed doesn't do anything either... Is there something I'm doing wrong??? Thanks!
linuxconf bugs?
Hello there! I apt-got linuxconf and it all went ok, and it works ok, but I'm looking at some strange things, they may be more strange to me becouse I'm not very knowledgable on groups and users But, If I create a new user using linuxconf and then login with that username and mkdir public_html in it's home dir, I get a permission denied error on the browser when I try to access http://myserver.com/~mynewuser. But if i create the user with adduser everything works ok... What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
Re: experiences w/ linuxconf
On Tuesday 03 April 2001 07:50 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:15:12PM +0200, Sven Burgener ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi fellow debs > > > > If anyone has made any experiences with linuxconf on Debian, would they > > mind sharing it with me? > > Few, but poor, and a while back. > > I've found it confusing, nonintuitive, and prone to shoot me in all six > feet. > > IMO, you're far better getting familiar with console, or better yet, > configuration file, interfaces to configuring various tools. > > This is a highly opinionated and rather outdated opinion, but I'm > sticking to it. I don't know why, but linuxconf on debian is an inferior experience to linuxconf on Mandrake. It was ugly, ugly, ugly (was it compiled with lesstif/motif?) and the fonts were clunky looking. Mandrake's linuxconf was really quite good. I couldn't get my second ethernet interface configured with debian's version, for some reason. But then I installed webmin (now back in debian, thankfully). And it works great! Be sure to get the ssl version (webmin-ssl). -- Stephen
Re: experiences w/ linuxconf
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:15:12PM +0200, Sven Burgener ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi fellow debs If anyone has made any experiences with linuxconf on Debian, would they mind sharing it with me? Few, but poor, and a while back. I've found it confusing, nonintuitive, and prone to shoot me in all six feet. IMO, you're far better getting familiar with console, or better yet, configuration file, interfaces to configuring various tools. This is a highly opinionated and rather outdated opinion, but I'm sticking to it. I'm afraid I have to agree. Old-schoolin' it with the config files is the way to go Cameron Matheson _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: experiences w/ linuxconf
on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:15:12PM +0200, Sven Burgener ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi fellow debs > > If anyone has made any experiences with linuxconf on Debian, would they > mind sharing it with me? Few, but poor, and a while back. I've found it confusing, nonintuitive, and prone to shoot me in all six feet. IMO, you're far better getting familiar with console, or better yet, configuration file, interfaces to configuring various tools. This is a highly opinionated and rather outdated opinion, but I'm sticking to it. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpTYc3CzuaQu.pgp Description: PGP signature
experiences w/ linuxconf
Hi fellow debs If anyone has made any experiences with linuxconf on Debian, would they mind sharing it with me? I have never used it and I would merely like to know how well it works on Debian and not so much whether it's a good idea to use it or not. =) In other words: is it 'well-integrated' with the Debian-Way of Things? Cheers, Sven -- Redundancy bores the intelligent, confuses the dumb, and tires the ignorant.
Re: Linuxconf
step 1: apt-get --purge remove linuxconf step 2: man interfaces step 3: editor /etc/network/interfaces step 4: /etc/init.d/networking restart On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 05:32:46PM +, SamBozo Debian User wrote: > I have my Deb box on a 192.168.1.xxx network which deb setup during > install. > I recently needed to change over to direct access (bypassing the > intranet) to the internet. I went into linuxconf and made the changes. > No Joy ... internet was inaccessable. > I have done this on a mandrake box and it worked fine. In fact I even > duplicated the entrys from such a "working" box when I tried again and > again > What am I missing? > One strange side note. The 1st time I went in to edit the entrys there > were NO ENTRYS > > TIA > linuxusr > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpDU9kIdz0qK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Linuxconf
I have my Deb box on a 192.168.1.xxx network which deb setup during install. I recently needed to change over to direct access (bypassing the intranet) to the internet. I went into linuxconf and made the changes. No Joy ... internet was inaccessable. I have done this on a mandrake box and it worked fine. In fact I even duplicated the entrys from such a "working" box when I tried again and again What am I missing? One strange side note. The 1st time I went in to edit the entrys there were NO ENTRYS TIA linuxusr
Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ...
also sprach Jason (on Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:12:18PM -0600): > $ifconfig but that wouldn't be permanent... /etc/network/interfaces is used during rcS to set them up with every reboot. martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- the young lady had an unusual list, linked in part to a structural weakness. she set no preconditions.
Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ...
You'll forgive me if i forgot the first "$" on the first $ARGV[0] - Original Message - From: "Chris Matta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MaD dUCK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Debian Users List" Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:10 PM Subject: Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ... > > > > any clues from your part? > > > > $ perl -e 'print "[EMAIL PROTECTED]";' madduck > > of course you need to have perl installed for that ;) > > -c > - Original Message - > From: "MaD dUCK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Chris Matta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Debian Users List" > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ... > > > > also sprach Chris Matta (on Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:52:24PM -0500): > > > > [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL > > > > PROTECTED]@@@.net > > > I gotta say, thats one of the most creative anti-spam email manglings > > > > well, thank you . however, it only works in bash > > unfortunately. and i myself am now an enthusiastic zsh person and > > haven't really found a nice way to make it compatible. ideally i would > > want to encompass csh/ksh/bash/zsh all in one, but i can't think of > > anything. > > > > any clues from your part? > > > > martin > > (200% geek) > > > > [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]@@@.net > > -- > > "no, 'eureka' is greek for 'this bath is too hot.'" > > -- dr. who > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ...
also sprach Glenn Becker (on Thu, 08 Feb 2001 11:04:17PM -0500): > wow, thanks, all - i made changes to /etc/network/interfaces and got right > on! away goes linuxconf! woohoo. another one who let go of the redhat sickness. martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- windoze 98: useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ...
> > any clues from your part? > $ perl -e 'print "[EMAIL PROTECTED]";' madduck of course you need to have perl installed for that ;) -c - Original Message - From: "MaD dUCK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chris Matta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Debian Users List" Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:55 PM Subject: Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ... > also sprach Chris Matta (on Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:52:24PM -0500): > > > [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED]@@@.net > > I gotta say, thats one of the most creative anti-spam email manglings > > well, thank you . however, it only works in bash > unfortunately. and i myself am now an enthusiastic zsh person and > haven't really found a nice way to make it compatible. ideally i would > want to encompass csh/ksh/bash/zsh all in one, but i can't think of > anything. > > any clues from your part? > > martin > (200% geek) > > [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]@@@.net > -- > "no, 'eureka' is greek for 'this bath is too hot.'" > -- dr. who > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ...
Glenn, There is another way to set your ip address. It's late and I've had a few glasses of wineso I don't remember the exact syntax. If you su to root and do an $ifconfig you should be able to set your ip address and subnet that way. You might have to do an ifconfig --help to get the syntax entered correctly. Hope this helps, Jason
Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ...
wow, thanks, all - i made changes to /etc/network/interfaces and got right on! away goes linuxconf! G _ | // G l e n n B e c k e r| | // I don't wanna kill my china pig. | // -- Captain Beefheart | | // [EMAIL PROTECTED] | _| At 10:46pm on Thu, 8 Feb 2001, MaD dUCK wrote: > also sprach Glenn Becker (on Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:39:10PM -0500): > > Someone in the #Debian channel on openprojects.net mentioned the linuxconf > > package, which I unf did not have installed. I finally got it installed > > (from CD) but it so far has not allowed me to connect out (I'm on the > > wife's Mac typing this, how embarassing ...heh). > > don't use linuxconf, it's among the worst things ever produced for > linux. instead, do a > > man interfaces > > and configure /etc/network/interfaces accordingly... > > martin > > [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]@@@.net > -- > "it's not easy, being green." > -- kermit the frog >
Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ...
also sprach Chris Matta (on Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:52:24PM -0500): > > [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]@@@.net > I gotta say, thats one of the most creative anti-spam email manglings well, thank you . however, it only works in bash unfortunately. and i myself am now an enthusiastic zsh person and haven't really found a nice way to make it compatible. ideally i would want to encompass csh/ksh/bash/zsh all in one, but i can't think of anything. any clues from your part? martin (200% geek) [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- "no, 'eureka' is greek for 'this bath is too hot.'" -- dr. who
Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ...
> > [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]@@@.net > -- I gotta say, thats one of the most creative anti-spam email manglings -c - Original Message - From: "MaD dUCK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Glenn Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Debian Users List" Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:46 PM Subject: Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ... > also sprach Glenn Becker (on Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:39:10PM -0500): > > Someone in the #Debian channel on openprojects.net mentioned the linuxconf > > package, which I unf did not have installed. I finally got it installed > > (from CD) but it so far has not allowed me to connect out (I'm on the > > wife's Mac typing this, how embarassing ...heh). > > don't use linuxconf, it's among the worst things ever produced for > linux. instead, do a > > man interfaces > > and configure /etc/network/interfaces accordingly... > > martin > > [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL > PROTECTED]@@@.net > -- > "it's not easy, being green." > -- kermit the frog > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ...
also sprach Glenn Becker (on Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:39:10PM -0500): > Someone in the #Debian channel on openprojects.net mentioned the linuxconf > package, which I unf did not have installed. I finally got it installed > (from CD) but it so far has not allowed me to connect out (I'm on the > wife's Mac typing this, how embarassing ...heh). don't use linuxconf, it's among the worst things ever produced for linux. instead, do a man interfaces and configure /etc/network/interfaces accordingly... martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- "it's not easy, being green." -- kermit the frog
Re: linuxconf/changing IP setup ...
Edit /etc/network/interfaces it should have all the old info, just replace it with the new stuff! -c - Original Message - From: "Glenn Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian Users List" Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:39 PM Subject: linuxconf/changing IP setup ... > > All, > > OK, I feel very silly. I believe there was a post to the list on the > subject of changing one's IP post-installation, but I didn't think I'd > need it, so I deleted it. > > Anyhoo, we wound up having to change DSL providers, so I got a brand new > IP, subnet mask, default gateway and DNS #s tonight. Unf. I could find > files (/etc/hosts) that cited the IP#, but nothing that referenced the > others. > > Someone in the #Debian channel on openprojects.net mentioned the linuxconf > package, which I unf did not have installed. I finally got it installed > (from CD) but it so far has not allowed me to connect out (I'm on the > wife's Mac typing this, how embarassing ...heh). > > linuxconf keeps reporting errors after I commit to the changes I make. I > noticed that even after I'd *made* these changes, the IP # in /etc/hosts > was still the *old* one, so something appears not to be happening. > > Has anyone else had trouble with this program? Is there an easier way to > re-work my networking setup? Are there a limited # of files I have to edit > and if so, what are they? I'll edit by hand and dump linuxconf. Please > some one send me a copy of that recent post on this subject (I looked but > can't find it in the archives) if it/its followups answer this question. I > DON'T WANT TO REINSTALL my system if I don't have to! > > Thanks, apologies for the stressed tone. > > Glenn > > _ > | > // G l e n n B e c k e r| > | > // I don't wanna kill my china pig. | > // -- Captain Beefheart | > | > // [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > _| > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
linuxconf/changing IP setup ...
All, OK, I feel very silly. I believe there was a post to the list on the subject of changing one's IP post-installation, but I didn't think I'd need it, so I deleted it. Anyhoo, we wound up having to change DSL providers, so I got a brand new IP, subnet mask, default gateway and DNS #s tonight. Unf. I could find files (/etc/hosts) that cited the IP#, but nothing that referenced the others. Someone in the #Debian channel on openprojects.net mentioned the linuxconf package, which I unf did not have installed. I finally got it installed (from CD) but it so far has not allowed me to connect out (I'm on the wife's Mac typing this, how embarassing ...heh). linuxconf keeps reporting errors after I commit to the changes I make. I noticed that even after I'd *made* these changes, the IP # in /etc/hosts was still the *old* one, so something appears not to be happening. Has anyone else had trouble with this program? Is there an easier way to re-work my networking setup? Are there a limited # of files I have to edit and if so, what are they? I'll edit by hand and dump linuxconf. Please some one send me a copy of that recent post on this subject (I looked but can't find it in the archives) if it/its followups answer this question. I DON'T WANT TO REINSTALL my system if I don't have to! Thanks, apologies for the stressed tone. Glenn _ | // G l e n n B e c k e r| | // I don't wanna kill my china pig. | // -- Captain Beefheart | | // [EMAIL PROTECTED] | _|
Re: Help: Replacing linuxconf user group & startup services
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 11:52:19AM -0400, Chris Gray wrote: > > You might have to change the /etc/passwd file to do this, just change > the fourth field to 100 on the line that starts with your username. > However, you can see the adduser manpage for info on how to do it more > cleanly in the future. usermod -g users username -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgp6rWYzprtTj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help: Replacing linuxconf user group & startup services
On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 03:41:08PM +0200, Jonathan Gift wrote: > Hi, > > I was told recently that real men don't use linuxconf. Well, since I don't > want to want to fool around with something so fundemental as my masculinity, > I figure I had better try without. I've a new install anyway and I was only > using linuxconf for two things: > > 1. To change my default group from jgift to users > 2. To Switch off unneeded services > > How can I do this from the console then? > > I used: adduser jgift users > > But I figure this just added me to the group and didn't make jgift's default > group users as I want. You might have to change the /etc/passwd file to do this, just change the fourth field to 100 on the line that starts with your username. However, you can see the adduser manpage for info on how to do it more cleanly in the future. > As for the services, does it really mean poking around the init file hoping > to get lucky? Kind of. Debian init files are usually pretty standardized. For instance to stop junkbuster, I could say # /etc/init.d/junkbuster stop Or to stop gpm, I could say # /etc/init.d/gpm stop Seeing the pattern? If I didn't want the services to run ever, I would either remove them, e.g. # dpkg --purge xdm or add an "exit 0" to the top of their init.d script after the initial #!/bin/sh. Hope this helps, Chris -- IF I HAD A MINE SHAFT, I don't think I would just abandon it. There's got to be a better way. -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988.
Help: Replacing linuxconf user group & startup services
Hi, I was told recently that real men don't use linuxconf. Well, since I don't want to want to fool around with something so fundemental as my masculinity, I figure I had better try without. I've a new install anyway and I was only using linuxconf for two things: 1. To change my default group from jgift to users 2. To Switch off unneeded services How can I do this from the console then? I used: adduser jgift users But I figure this just added me to the group and didn't make jgift's default group users as I want. As for the services, does it really mean poking around the init file hoping to get lucky? Thanks, Jonathan
Re: linuxconf problems
Also, AFAIK... the linuxconf distributed in Potato states clearly that some things in it work on Debian and some don't in the README.Debian file... You may want to look at that before continuing to use it. Linuxconf is worthless, anyway. Learn to config the box the correct way. :) On Fri, Sep 01, 2000 at 03:13:23AM -0700, Steven Winston wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: Steven Winston > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:51 PM > Subject: linuxconf problems > > > I can't make linuxconf work. I get messages saying "Xlib connection to ':0.0' > refused by server." This is debian 2.2 on asus p5-a, amd k6-2 450 mhz, 128mb > ram. Any ideas? This potato seems awfully buggy to me and has been a bitch to > install. This is the linux systems lab six-cd version. > Also, what is the best book for learning debian? > thanks, stevew -- Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG Key fingerprint = DCAF 2B9D CC9B 96FA 7A6D AAF4 2D61 77C5 7ECE C1D2 Public Key available upon request, or at wwwkeys.pgp.net and others. pgpHOv8HptAdQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: linuxconf problems
Did you log in as a regular user and su to root and then try to run linuxconf. If so you need to allow root to access the X server, either log in as root or as a regular user type xhosts + which will allow any user to run an X app on the original users X session. Mike
linuxconf problems
 - Original Message - From: Steven Winston To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:51 PM Subject: linuxconf problems I can't make linuxconf work. I get messages saying "Xlib connection to ':0.0' refused by server." This is debian 2.2 on asus p5-a, amd k6-2 450 mhz, 128mb ram. Any ideas? This potato seems awfully buggy to me and has been a bitch to install. This is the linux systems lab six-cd version. Also, what is the best book for learning debian? thanks, stevew
Re: linuxconf for debian
On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 08:26:05PM +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > is it possible to use linuxconf with debian (2.2) ? Yes, it's packaged, but make sure you read the README.Debian or somesuch file in the /usr/doc/linuxconf dir to see what's currently working and what's broken... I think there are still some unsupported features. -- Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG Key fingerprint = DCAF 2B9D CC9B 96FA 7A6D AAF4 2D61 77C5 7ECE C1D2 Public Key available upon request, or at wwwkeys.pgp.net and others. pgpagitnfuIAu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: linuxconf for debian
apt-get install linuxconf Ron Rademaker On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Felix Natter wrote: > hi, > > is it possible to use linuxconf with debian (2.2) ? > > thanks, > > -- > Felix Natter > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
linuxconf for debian
hi, is it possible to use linuxconf with debian (2.2) ? thanks, -- Felix Natter
Re: Linuxconf in potato broken?
> Last I looked, the README.Debian file in the linuxconf package clearly > states that linuxconf is still very broken on Debian. That's okay. Many of my Red Hat-using friends also report more than their share of bugs in it. :-) -- Regards, | Moore's Law: Every 2 years CPU power will double. .| Randy| Gates' Law: Every 18 months software speed will halve.
Re: Linuxconf in potato broken?
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 01:40:48PM +, "F.P. Groeneveld" wrote: Last I looked, the README.Debian file in the linuxconf package clearly states that linuxconf is still very broken on Debian. However, it DOES at least RUN on my machines? > I get a segfault whenever I quit linuxconf (version 1.17r1-1). Is this a > known problem waiting for a fix? Or is it something particular to my > system? > > > Cheers, > > Derk Groeneveld > -- > The From: and Reply-To: addresses are internal news2mail gateway addresses. > Reply to the list or to "F.P. Groeneveld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG Key fingerprint = DCAF 2B9D CC9B 96FA 7A6D AAF4 2D61 77C5 7ECE C1D2 Public Key available upon request, or at wwwkeys.pgp.net and others. pgpGGGHJnXxZk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Linuxconf in potato broken?
I get a segfault whenever I quit linuxconf (version 1.17r1-1). Is this a known problem waiting for a fix? Or is it something particular to my system? Cheers, Derk Groeneveld -- The From: and Reply-To: addresses are internal news2mail gateway addresses. Reply to the list or to "F.P. Groeneveld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: why no linuxconf package?
I tried linuxconf from potato and it completely screwed up my dns settings. I think manually editing the files is a little more reliable meridian [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Eric G . Miller wrote: > There's is a linuxconf package in potato. However, it somewhat > screwed up from the RH version. Part of the problem is the debian > /etc/* configuration is different from RH. Still, I never thought > linuxconf was that great. It would be nice to have a GUI config tool, > and I believe someone is working on porting COAS (from Caldera?). Can't > really say anything about that though. > -- > > Eric G. Miller > Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)! > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: why no linuxconf package?
There's is a linuxconf package in potato. However, it somewhat screwed up from the RH version. Part of the problem is the debian /etc/* configuration is different from RH. Still, I never thought linuxconf was that great. It would be nice to have a GUI config tool, and I believe someone is working on porting COAS (from Caldera?). Can't really say anything about that though. -- Eric G. Miller Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!
Re: why no linuxconf package?
Noah L. Meyerhans writes: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Russell Nelson wrote: > > > Linuxconf uses the GPL. Is there some non-technical reason why there > > is no Debian package for Linuxconf? (I just have this idea that > > Debian suffers from NIH -- dare I say "RPM"?) > > Apparently linuxconf is included with potato (debian 2.2, which is in > development). IMHO this is really not a good thing, because linuxconf has > a nasty tendancy to create scripts that are easily machine parsable but > are absolutely unreadable to humans. One of Debians greatest assets is > its remote, console based admin capability. To me, linuxconf really > breaks this. If it breaks this, then linuxconf needs fixing. But that's more a matter of fixing linuxconf than rejecting it. It's okay if a GUI admin tool writes out structured configuration files, but it MUST be able to read in any modifications made by hand, and it SHOULD write configuration files which are human-readable. > I don't think it's fair at all to say that Debian suffers from the NIH > syndrome. Did we write sendmail, apache, emacs, or perl? RedHat didn't > write linuxconf (in fact, linuxconf is incompatible with redhat's own > "AnotherLevel" config tool (I think that's the right name)). So it's not > like we've got a problem with stuff written by people doing work for other > distributions. And there are fundamental reasons why we use something > other than RPM. The Debian package format is inherently better. RPM has already been broken^H^H^H^H^H^Himproved once already. I don't see why it can't be improved to include any advantages that DEB has. I mean, in an era when XEmacs and GNU Emacs are talking about merging back, and egcs is becoming gcc-3.0, can't we all get along? > This has been debated by the developers quite often. Somebody else > can probably give you a more detailed history of this issue. I already asked, and didn't get one. But Colin Marquardt pointed me to http://kitenet.net/~joey/pkg-comp/ , which is better than nothing. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for free software | PGPok | Government schools are so 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | bad that any rank amateur Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | +1 315 268 9201 FAX | can outdo them. Homeschool!
Re: why no linuxconf package?
On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 11:02:51AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: > Linuxconf uses the GPL. Is there some non-technical reason why there > is no Debian package for Linuxconf? (I just have this idea that There's been a package in experimental for quite some time, and there are now packages in unstable so whenever that gets released it will contain linuxconf (barring critical bugs and suchlike). The main concern was making sure it would play well with the rest of the system - looking at the changelog it seems that one of the more important things was creating a Debian module which knows how to interact with a Debian system. It's the sort of tool that has great potential to toast a machine, so it pays to be cautious. > Debian suffers from NIH -- dare I say "RPM"?) There is a Debian package of RPM, and Debian contains tools which support the installation of RedHat packages on Debian systems :-) . Really, all it depends upon is some developer deciding that it's a worthwhile thing to package and making the effort to do so. Any NIH you're seeing probably has as much to do with people already having solutions (eg, I would guess most Debian maintainers don't *need* a tool like linuxconf) or not having seen the relevant packages (you'll probably find that a high proportion of Debian maintainers spend more admin time on Debian than on other systems) as anything else. If there's something you'd like packaged, you can always mail a suggestion to debian-devel (and probably also [EMAIL PROTECTED] so it goes in the list of Wanted, Needed & Prospective Packages) to see if you can attract interest, or even go ahead and do it yourself (barring the odd stall in new-maintainer processing :-) ). -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpSl9gvLIozb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: why no linuxconf package?
On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 11:02:51AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote: > Linuxconf uses the GPL. Is there some non-technical reason why there > is no Debian package for Linuxconf? (I just have this idea that > Debian suffers from NIH -- dare I say "RPM"?) I believe it is being considered for incorporation in unstable (check the debian-devel archives). I tried linuxconf about three years ago and it looked promising, but had a long way to go to be really useful. I expect it has advanced somewhat since then. Actually RH suffers from NIH and refuses to incorporate dpkg. Bob -- Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: why no linuxconf package?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Russell Nelson wrote: > Linuxconf uses the GPL. Is there some non-technical reason why there > is no Debian package for Linuxconf? (I just have this idea that > Debian suffers from NIH -- dare I say "RPM"?) > Apparently linuxconf is included with potato (debian 2.2, which is in development). IMHO this is really not a good thing, because linuxconf has a nasty tendancy to create scripts that are easily machine parsable but are absolutely unreadable to humans. One of Debians greatest assets is its remote, console based admin capability. To me, linuxconf really breaks this. I don't think it's fair at all to say that Debian suffers from the NIH syndrome. Did we write sendmail, apache, emacs, or perl? RedHat didn't write linuxconf (in fact, linuxconf is incompatible with redhat's own "AnotherLevel" config tool (I think that's the right name)). So it's not like we've got a problem with stuff written by people doing work for other distributions. And there are fundamental reasons why we use something other than RPM. The Debian package format is inherently better. This has been debated by the developers quite often. Somebody else can probably give you a more detailed history of this issue. But it's definitely safe to say that the fact that we're not using RPM has nothing to do with the fact that Redhat wrote it. noah PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBN7Q6eodCcpBjGWoFAQEMyQP7BrsuU01u/TVkWr7s3cWYFa559HmSpk+E aG0Zu5H42Hd0Qj8QVUJbBmEw7afA1i3ANsIrmNMICMsaX5PtCdLUGRI66SxHmK4z KkV1MmnEnVOLF/f4R1MKFCIZSP9nP6Nz+S8NaU1Kf8UVL8lASBBeGLvlsVAOJHoZ EdP+NPy/dZE= =ZBLV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
why no linuxconf package?
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ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental I believe the differences is in the stablity and that the are either less stable. Although, I never had a problem with the linuxconf packages ... except one package linuxconf-boot which even warns you on installation that it can hose your system, so I never used it. But the X package and the rest seemed to work fine! Rod... > -Original Message- > From: Johannes Beigel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 3:11 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: linuxconf > > > "Person, Roderick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > There is a linuxconf in the debian experimental archives. > > Where can I get experimental packages? > > Are they even more unstable than packages from unstable/potato? > > Jojo. > -- > Johannes Beigel | "Gravity. > http://come.to/jojob | It's not just a good idea, it's the law!" > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > /dev/null
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Re: linuxconf
"Person, Roderick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is a linuxconf in the debian experimental archives. Where can I get experimental packages? Are they even more unstable than packages from unstable/potato? Jojo. -- Johannes Beigel | "Gravity. http://come.to/jojob | It's not just a good idea, it's the law!"
Re: linuxconf
On Mon, May 24, 1999 at 08:23:58AM -0500, Timothy C. Phan wrote: > hi, > > I'd like to know if there is a tools in debian distribution similar the > linuxconf in > redhat? > > Thanks! Yep!. Debian has linuxconf as well. Since Redhat and Debian do things differently, the Debian folks are now working on it. It should be ready for testing in potato soon. Read the DWN news to find more. > -- > tcp > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
RE: linuxconf
There is a linuxconf in the debian experimental archives. It requires libc6 from potatoe and some other stuff from there, it works and is better that the linuxconf that I used (redhat 5.1 version). The X version of the linuxconf is really cool. But, the libc6 from potatoe did like some stuff on my slink box, so I had to get rid of it. > -Original Message- > From: Timothy C. Phan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 9:24 AM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: linuxconf > > hi, > > I'd like to know if there is a tools in debian distribution similar the > linuxconf in > redhat? > > Thanks! > > -- > tcp > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > /dev/null
linuxconf
hi, I'd like to know if there is a tools in debian distribution similar the linuxconf in redhat? Thanks! -- tcp
Re: linuxconf
Last I heard about linuxconf was that it had a negative affect, as it does not follow the debian file structure properly. I guess that if the debs are in experimental then you should not install them on a machine that you arent prepared to trash. John. Oliver Thuns wrote: > > Hi! > > Does anyone use linuxconf with slink? > > Is it save to install linuxconf and use linuxconf? (I found a deb in > ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/project/experimental/) > > Oliver > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/nullbegin:vcard n:Stevenson;John tel;fax:+31 20 34 22 820 tel;work:+31 20 34 22 820 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:www.oa.nl org:OA Europe version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Technical Consultant adr;quoted-printable:;;Objective Alliance=0D=0AHoghilweg 14L;Amsterdam;Zoud Oust;1101 CD;Nederlands x-mozilla-cpt:;-11328 fn:John Stevenson end:vcard
linuxconf
Hi! Does anyone use linuxconf with slink? Is it save to install linuxconf and use linuxconf? (I found a deb in ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/project/experimental/) Oliver
is linuxconf part of debian 2.0?
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Re: linuxconf experiences?
Stefan Gundel wrote: > > Hello, dear Debian users, > > I consider installing linuxconf on my hamm system in order to facilitate > administration. Has anybody out there already got some experience with > linuxconf? > I tried installing linuxconf (see my help plea to this list on Feb 2). It seemed to require new versions of a lot of libraries (I have latest hamm dist). I tried installing these from the unstable dist, but ended up with a dependency problem that I could not resolve. I needed to upgrade libc6 libraries. But they required ldso 1.9.10-1.1. However, the most recent ldso I could find on the unstable dist is 1.9.10-1. So dselect had kittens and refused to proceed. It now tells me to uninstall a whole raft of things that I'm not game to try. I have frozen these for now. So good luck. But you (and I) need to tap into someone (a developer with the latest libraries...) who really has got it working under Debian first. Cheers, Chris. -- +-+ | Dr. Chris Ryan | | CSIRO Exploration and Mining email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | 51 Delhi Road (PO box 136) phone: +61-2-9490 8673| | North Ryde NSW 2113fax: +61-2-9490 8909| | Australia. | | | | WWW (Cu-Au group): http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/research/hydrothermal/ | | WWW (Proton Probe):| | http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/research/hydrothermal/chris/PM_main.html | | WWW (Mantle Petrology group): http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/research/mantle/ | | WWW (Me): http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/unrestricted/people/RyanChris/ | | | +-+
linuxconf experiences?
Hello, dear Debian users, I consider installing linuxconf on my hamm system in order to facilitate administration. Has anybody out there already got some experience with linuxconf? -- Stefan Gundel
linuxconf installation conflicts
Hi, I have installed linuxconf (supposed to be a nice web-style GUI system administration tool) but have conflicts that I can't resolve. The story follows. My current installation is the current stable 2.0 release (updated via ftp mechanism of dselect/dpkg on Feb 1 99). Installed linuxconf 1.13 rev 12.2 (found in debian/projects/experimental) using ftp and dpkg. dpkg and dselect report dependencies: netbase >3.11-4 (3.11-1 installed) libgd1g libncurses 4 libstdc++2.9 Found that most of these required the unstable release versions. So I installed all these from /unstable. This resolves most problems, but one remains: libncurses 4 required libc6 (>2.0.7u-0). I installed the latest libc6 from /unstable. But this installation conflicts with ldso <1.9.10-1.1 (ie. libc6 demands ldso >=1.9.10-1.1). However, the latest ldso that I can find in /unstable is version 1.9.10-1. I cannot resolve these conflicts. Where is the later version (>=1.9.10-1.1) of ldso? Has anyone installed linuxconf under Debian OK? Must I have a completely /unstable/ version of Debian installed? Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Cheers, Chris. -- +-+ | Dr. Chris Ryan | | CSIRO Exploration and Mining email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | 51 Delhi Road (PO box 136) phone: +61-2-9490 8673| | North Ryde NSW 2113fax: +61-2-9490 8909| | Australia. | | | | WWW (Cu-Au group): http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/research/hydrothermal/ | | WWW (Proton Probe):| | http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/research/hydrothermal/chris/PM_main.html | | WWW (Mantle Petrology group): http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/research/mantle/ | | WWW (Me): http://www.syd.dem.csiro.au/unrestricted/people/RyanChris/ | | | +-+
Re: linuxconf
Joachim, > Has someone tried out webmin on a Debian 2 system? (I am for much a > newbie in system administration to try it out more than installing it > and looking at it's great looking web interface.) Just tried it yesterday I prefer the interface to linuxconf. Can't do as many things as linuxconf, but I think it's more straightforward. Nice web interface. Salutacions, Pere __oUltima Ratio Regum 2:343/108.91 - _`\<;_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key available --- (_)/ (_) http://casal.upc.es/~pere/
Re: linuxconf
On 29 Nov 1998, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: > Pere Camps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Has anyone succesfully installed linuxconf on debian? If yes, is > > it worth it? > > > I would be more interested in webmin <http://www.webmin.com/webmin> > which looks very interesting. There is only a Debian 1.3 version > available; *not* a deb package -- seems no one was interested to > package it ... > > Has someone tried out webmin on a Debian 2 system? (I am for much a > newbie in system administration to try it out more than installing it > and looking at it's great looking web interface.) The only problem it that webmin is non-free. But it also works well. -- Heute ist nicht alle Tage, ich komme wieder, keine Frage!!! Joerg
Re: linuxconf
Pere Camps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anyone succesfully installed linuxconf on debian? If yes, is > it worth it? > I would be more interested in webmin <http://www.webmin.com/webmin> which looks very interesting. There is only a Debian 1.3 version available; *not* a deb package -- seems no one was interested to package it ... Has someone tried out webmin on a Debian 2 system? (I am for much a newbie in system administration to try it out more than installing it and looking at it's great looking web interface.) Greetings, joachim
Re: linuxconf
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Pere Camps wrote: > Hi! > > Has anyone succesfully installed linuxconf on debian? If yes, is > it worth it? At the moment, linuxconf-version 1.10r34 is available in projects/experimental. Recent linuxconf-release is 1.13r7, but the debian-maintainer is obviously to busy to build a new release. I did a deb by my self. But there are serious problems: First of all, linuxconf breaks! Debian sysvinit, this means you can't boot, if you let do linuxconf the booting. it is possible to edit the /etc/init.d/rc-script provided with linuxconf that you can boot. But this means you can't use the benefits of linuxconf while booting. Otherwise linuxconf is IMHO a very easy to use config-utility. If some more people can help me testing linuxconf we can make it usable for debian. I try to get more info from the author how linuxconf can be set up for debian. You can download my recent package if you want to test it. my homepage will be available within 2 or 3 days. -- Heute ist nicht alle Tage, ich komme wieder, keine Frage!!! Joerg
linuxconf
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LinuxConf
Hi all, I friend of mine is running RedHat 5.1 (i have tried to convert him, but without any luck) and he was telling me that RedHat is now using the Linuxconf package, and I was wondering how compatiable Linuxconf is with Debian 1.3.1(bo) and 2.0(hamm)? And is there a .deb package for the latest version and is there any plans to incorperate it with Debian? Regards Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linuxconf
On Mon, Jun 08, 1998 at 09:21:02AM +0100, Graham Lillico +44 1785 248131 wrote: > I friend of mine is running RedHat 5.1 (i have tried to convert him, but > without any luck) and he was telling me that RedHat is now using the Linuxconf > package, and I was wondering how compatiable Linuxconf is with Debian > 1.3.1(bo) > and 2.0(hamm)? And is there a .deb package for the latest version and is > there > any plans to incorperate it with Debian? At the moment, Linuxconf doesn't work on Debian without some tweaking. We've been talking about beefing up the sysvinit scripts for it, but this hasn't quite happened yet. Part of what what's being waited on I think is the module interface hasn't been finalized yet. When that happens I think you'll see it find its way into Debian quickly---maybe into 2.1 even (which is not expected to take nearly as long as 2.0 has) pgpdtiJn4B8iG.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hi all, I friend of mine is running RedHat 5.1 (i have tried to convert him, but without any luck) and he was telling me that RedHat is now using the Linuxconf package, and I was wondering how compatiable Linuxconf is with Debian 1.3.1(bo) and 2.0(hamm)? And is there a .deb package for the latest version and is there any plans to incorperate it with Debian? Regards Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linuxconf
On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Shaya Potter wrote: > > > > the biggest problem with linuxconf is that it replaces sysvinit. > > > Linuxconf has some really nice features and seems like a > > > comprehensive configuration system BUT even if it was 10 times as > > > good it still wouldnt be worth losing sysvinit. > > > > What I was proposing on debian-devel would mean you can have both. > > The linuxconf dropins would point toward the /etc/init.d scripts and > > when each package configures itself just like it calls update-rc.d > > now it could call a "configure" program. > > that's partly missing the point. init and linuxconf fulfil two separate > functions. > > configuration of a system and/or it's applications is an almost > completely separate function to controlling what daemons get started and > when. I would personally like that to be the case too, (and if I had the ability to write a program like linuxconf I would have written it that way). However, I didn't write it, but I still think it is the best tool for configuring a linux system and with minimal work can be made to work with debian. > > I really don't want my system automatically restarting some important > daemon just because i've touched it's config file - if i want it > restarted then it's up to me to take some action which forces it to > happen. I agree with that and that is why we don't need to have linuxconf use the monitor lines in the dropins. > > here's a good example of why: squid. when it restarts, it can take > literally hours (depending on the size of the object cache it's > managing) for it to completely read in it's log file and know what > objects are already cached. This isn't a big issue if you're only > caching 50 or 100mb of web traffic, but is a huge issue if your proxy > machine has 4 or 8 or 20 GB of disk space dedicated to the task. I need > to be able to edit squid's conf file at any time and schedule a restart > for a time that suits me and the users dependant on it. I understand, but even if you wanted it to restart automatically, all it would take is editing a single line in the dropin > > Also, there are other daemons and processes which rely on important > state-dependant information which will be lost when they are terminated > and restarted. Having that happen automatically whenever a config file > is touched strikes me as being not only inflexible, but also potentially > dangerous. i don't want my system second-guessing me. > Again, don't have to have a monitor line. > > i'd be a lot more inclined to like linuxconf if it confined itself to > managing configuration information and left init's job to initand > left my job to me. I agree with you first point, but we can easily make linuxconf let you do your job. > > A configuration engine's job is to make it easier to configure and > use EXISTING configuration methods, not to force everything into it's > mold. In other words, it has to maintain continuity with established > standards. > It does mostly, however I do know the init issue is a big issue. I might talk to the linuxconf developer to see if we can get it better intergrated with init. Shaya -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linuxconf
On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Shaya Potter wrote: > > the biggest problem with linuxconf is that it replaces sysvinit. > > Linuxconf has some really nice features and seems like a > > comprehensive configuration system BUT even if it was 10 times as > > good it still wouldnt be worth losing sysvinit. > > What I was proposing on debian-devel would mean you can have both. > The linuxconf dropins would point toward the /etc/init.d scripts and > when each package configures itself just like it calls update-rc.d > now it could call a "configure" program. that's partly missing the point. init and linuxconf fulfil two separate functions. configuration of a system and/or it's applications is an almost completely separate function to controlling what daemons get started and when. I really don't want my system automatically restarting some important daemon just because i've touched it's config file - if i want it restarted then it's up to me to take some action which forces it to happen. here's a good example of why: squid. when it restarts, it can take literally hours (depending on the size of the object cache it's managing) for it to completely read in it's log file and know what objects are already cached. This isn't a big issue if you're only caching 50 or 100mb of web traffic, but is a huge issue if your proxy machine has 4 or 8 or 20 GB of disk space dedicated to the task. I need to be able to edit squid's conf file at any time and schedule a restart for a time that suits me and the users dependant on it. Also, there are other daemons and processes which rely on important state-dependant information which will be lost when they are terminated and restarted. Having that happen automatically whenever a config file is touched strikes me as being not only inflexible, but also potentially dangerous. i don't want my system second-guessing me. i'd be a lot more inclined to like linuxconf if it confined itself to managing configuration information and left init's job to initand left my job to me. A configuration engine's job is to make it easier to configure and use EXISTING configuration methods, not to force everything into it's mold. In other words, it has to maintain continuity with established standards. craig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linuxconf
On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Shaya Potter wrote: > > > Some people are against using linuxconf, personally I'm for it, but I > > don't have enough time to try to build the tools neccesart for it b/c > > the biggest problem with linuxconf is that it replaces sysvinit. > Linuxconf has some really nice features and seems like a comprehensive > configuration system BUT even if it was 10 times as good it still > wouldnt be worth losing sysvinit. What I was proposing on debian-devel would mean you can have both. The linuxconf dropins would point toward the /etc/init.d scripts and when each package configures itself just like it calls update-rc.d now it could call a "configure" program. The configure program would be installed by which ever package you use (sysv init, linuxconf or any future tool). the "configure" program would then finish configureing the package, making the appropriate links into the rc symlink tree or making the dropins on the fly for linuxconf or do whatever any future tool needs to be done. This would mesh well with the database scheme we might be moving towards b/c all the "configure" program would have to do, would be to use data that the package would put in the database. Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linuxconf
On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Shaya Potter wrote: > Some people are against using linuxconf, personally I'm for it, but I > don't have enough time to try to build the tools neccesart for it b/c the biggest problem with linuxconf is that it replaces sysvinit. Linuxconf has some really nice features and seems like a comprehensive configuration system BUT even if it was 10 times as good it still wouldnt be worth losing sysvinit. craig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linuxconf
Actually we were discussing this on debian-devel a few weeks ago. The problem with it right now is that we need a utility written to make linuxconf really debian complient (so that when ever you install a package linuxconf will now about it). However, it's not just a utility that is needed, we would also need to change the way the packages are constructed in a tiny way (or include a special database file) so that the "dropin" can be generated and removed on the fly when you install or remove a package. Some people are against using linuxconf, personally I'm for it, but I don't have enough time to try to build the tools neccesart for it b/c this is my senior year in high school and I am studying for about 4-7 AP exams and trying to do my Eagle project for Boy Scouts and still remain active in the the Debian community. I am however willing to protoype the method with which this can be done on debian-devel. Shaya -- Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > > Will Linuxconf be integrated into Debian Linux? I just got a copy, > and am going to see what it is this week. > > -- >__ _Karl M. Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg > / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Portland, OR, USA > / /__| | | | | |_| |> < Proudly running Linux 2.0.27 transname > \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ and Debian GNU public software! > > > -- > TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Will Linuxconf be integrated into Debian Linux? I just got a copy, and am going to see what it is this week. -- __ _Karl M. Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / /(_)_ __ _ ___ __ http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg / / | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / Portland, OR, USA / /__| | | | | |_| |> < Proudly running Linux 2.0.27 transname \/_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ and Debian GNU public software! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linuxconf or something like?
Brian C. White wrote: > > > I was wondering if I could use Linuxconf on a Debian system? If not, > > please explain. I think as new user, it would be nice to have admin. > > tool to control most of system config. in one setting.:-) > > "cfengine" is nice if managing a network. I was look for more then network.:( I think Debian needs one. Some program that is just interface to /etc and /home/*/.* files. Out of all the distributions, Debian system would be easy to setup something like this. Don't you think? Thanks, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linuxconf or something like?
> I was wondering if I could use Linuxconf on a Debian system? If not, > please explain. I think as new user, it would be nice to have admin. > tool to control most of system config. in one setting.:-) "cfengine" is nice if managing a network. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.01. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linuxconf or something like?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi all, > >I was wondering if I could use Linuxconf on a Debian system? If not, >please explain. I think as new user, it would be nice to have admin. >tool to control most of system config. in one setting.:-) I had a look at it. The problem is that it: a) scatters file all over the place where they don't belong b) replaces the entire /etc/init.d startup scripts with its own monolithic procedure, thus preventing you from ever upgrading packages that need that stuff again. Also I have the idea that it does something like Sun Netra: I think it stores part of the configuration info in its own files, so if you edit the config files in /etc by hand and you then restart linuxconf it will happily restore the old config over your changes. Ugh. Basically it was designed for Slackware. Mike. -- | Miquel van Smoorenburg \ The answer to Life, the Universe and Everything \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ Just reinstall windows and try again, sir. \ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
