Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-24 Thread Raphaƫl Berbain
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> Any chance to use the mouse in Links, or Aptitude ? or... maybe in Emacs ??

As for Emacs, check out xterm-mouse-mode.


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Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-23 Thread Thomas Dickey
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> Why is it linked against ncurses?

http://invisible-island.net/ncurses/ncurses.faq.html#using_gpm_lib

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Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-23 Thread Sam Watkins
I use "screen" for cut and paste in a terminal.

I wrote a front-end to screen called "splish" which makes it much easier
to switch between screens, and does other stuff, I get a splish prompt
instead of a bash prompt when I log in / open an xterm.

  http://nipl.net/hacks/splish

In screen ^A^[ puts you into "cut mode", where you can search through
the terminal output with ? and /, and mark the start and end of a
selection with ' ';  and ^A^] pastes.

I changed my screen escape character from ^A to ^J as ^A is
used by readline, but ^J normally just has the same effect as pressing
enter.  (except in emacs, which I don't use in a terminal)


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Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-23 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 05:32:58PM -, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 03:22:56PM -, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> >> Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 04:01:58PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >  
> >> >> Any chance to use the mouse in Links, or Aptitude ? or... maybe in 
> >> >> Emacs ??
> >> 
> >> > Hi Vincent, links running in a terminal under X responds to mouse
> >> > actions. This is a result of mouse support in ncurses I believe. There's
> >> 
> >> no - links (and elinks/links2) doesn't use any features from ncurses.
> 
> > I presume you mean none of the mouse-related features from ncurses.
> 
> no, I was being precise: none

Why is it linked against ncurses?

~$ ldd `which links` | grep curses 
libncurses.so.5 => /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x40167000)

ii  links  0.99+1.00pre12-1


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Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-22 Thread Thomas Dickey
Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 03:22:56PM -, Thomas Dickey wrote:
>> Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 04:01:58PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >  
>> >> Any chance to use the mouse in Links, or Aptitude ? or... maybe in Emacs 
>> >> ??
>> 
>> > Hi Vincent, links running in a terminal under X responds to mouse
>> > actions. This is a result of mouse support in ncurses I believe. There's
>> 
>> no - links (and elinks/links2) doesn't use any features from ncurses.

> I presume you mean none of the mouse-related features from ncurses.

no, I was being precise: none

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Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 03:22:56PM -, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 04:01:58PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  
> >> Any chance to use the mouse in Links, or Aptitude ? or... maybe in Emacs ??
> 
> > Hi Vincent, links running in a terminal under X responds to mouse
> > actions. This is a result of mouse support in ncurses I believe. There's
> 
> no - links (and elinks/links2) doesn't use any features from ncurses.

I presume you mean none of the mouse-related features from ncurses.


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Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-22 Thread Thomas Dickey
Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 04:01:58PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
>> Any chance to use the mouse in Links, or Aptitude ? or... maybe in Emacs ??

> Hi Vincent, links running in a terminal under X responds to mouse
> actions. This is a result of mouse support in ncurses I believe. There's

no - links (and elinks/links2) doesn't use any features from ncurses.

The part where gpm links to ncurses serves no useful purpose.
I modified ncurses a few months ago to provide gpm support in spite of that.

> some code floating around that provides mouse support in ncurses which
> predates GPM I think, which resulted in confusion when running the two
> together. You may find the following thread interesting:

> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1999-04/msg00502.html

I'd forgotten about that, will reexamine for useful bits.

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Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 04:01:58PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> Any chance to use the mouse in Links, or Aptitude ? or... maybe in Emacs ??

Hi Vincent, links running in a terminal under X responds to mouse
actions. This is a result of mouse support in ncurses I believe. There's
some code floating around that provides mouse support in ncurses which
predates GPM I think, which resulted in confusion when running the two
together. You may find the following thread interesting:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/1999-04/msg00502.html


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Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-21 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 04:01:58PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello all,
> I'd like to know the tricks available in the unix console - I mean raw 
> console,
> no Xterm or whataver X console. One exemple: a lot of you do some screen 
> output
> copy in their messages. Copy & paste, sort of... How do you do that ?


Hi Vincent,
I use 'script'. You type 'script' and then all your commands are put into
a file called 'typescript'. you exit the script program by typing
'exit'.

-Kev

> 
> Thanks to the General Purpose Mouse daemon I have a funny square hanging 
> around
> the screen which seems to respond my mouse's moves. But what can I do with it 
> ?
> I've tried it in some n-curses based "text-mode-graphical" apps, and clicking 
> on
> the buttons doesn't seem to do anything. I see I can select characters on the
> screen, but what can I perform with this ?
> 
> Any chance to use the mouse in Links, or Aptitude ? or... maybe in Emacs ??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Vince
> 
> 
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Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-21 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 04:01:58PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks to the General Purpose Mouse daemon I have a funny square
> hanging around the screen which seems to respond my mouse's
> moves. But what can I do with it ?

Usually it works as follows. At least that's how it works at my
system:

Select text with your left mouse button. Press the right mouse button
to paste it on the command line or Emacs or wherever your are. In the
X environment pasting can usually be done my clicking left and right
simultaneously.

I'll demonstrate by selecting and pasting some text from the gpm
manual... :)

  To select text press the left mouse button and drag the mouse.  To
paste text in the same or another console, press the middle button.
The right button is used to extend the selection, like in `xterm'.

  Two-button mice use the right button to paste text.


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Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 16:01 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello all,
> I'd like to know the tricks available in the unix console - I mean raw 
> console,
> no Xterm or whataver X console. One exemple: a lot of you do some screen 
> output
> copy in their messages. Copy & paste, sort of... How do you do that ?
> 
> Thanks to the General Purpose Mouse daemon I have a funny square hanging 
> around
> the screen which seems to respond my mouse's moves. But what can I do with it 
> ?
> I've tried it in some n-curses based "text-mode-graphical" apps, and clicking 
> on
> the buttons doesn't seem to do anything. I see I can select characters on the
> screen, but what can I perform with this ?
> 
> Any chance to use the mouse in Links, or Aptitude ? or... maybe in Emacs ??

The left mouse button selects text, and you paste with the middle
button.  Just like in X apps.

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Re: mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-21 Thread Kent West
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Hello all,
I'd like to know the tricks available in the unix console - I mean raw console,
no Xterm or whataver X console. One exemple: a lot of you do some screen output
copy in their messages. Copy & paste, sort of... How do you do that ?
 

One method might be by redirecting output, as in:
cat /etc/passwd > newfile.txt
Thanks to the General Purpose Mouse daemon I have a funny square hanging around
the screen which seems to respond my mouse's moves. But what can I do with it ?
I've tried it in some n-curses based "text-mode-graphical" apps, and clicking on
the buttons doesn't seem to do anything. I see I can select characters on the
screen, but what can I perform with this ?
 

Highlight text with left-button; move to where you want to paste; 
middle-click to paste.

Any chance to use the mouse in Links, or Aptitude ? or... maybe in Emacs ??
 

Sorry, don't know.
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Kent
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mastering the console & gpm mouse management

2004-12-21 Thread vincent . tournebise
Hello all,
I'd like to know the tricks available in the unix console - I mean raw console,
no Xterm or whataver X console. One exemple: a lot of you do some screen output
copy in their messages. Copy & paste, sort of... How do you do that ?

Thanks to the General Purpose Mouse daemon I have a funny square hanging around
the screen which seems to respond my mouse's moves. But what can I do with it ?
I've tried it in some n-curses based "text-mode-graphical" apps, and clicking on
the buttons doesn't seem to do anything. I see I can select characters on the
screen, but what can I perform with this ?

Any chance to use the mouse in Links, or Aptitude ? or... maybe in Emacs ??

Thanks,

Vince


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