Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland

> On 23 Apr 2014, at 17:33, Ralf Mardorf  wrote:
> 
> However, a lot of
> experienced Linux users prefer Syslinux.

I'd like to revisit syslinux at some point. It works well on boot USBs etc. Add 
my voice to the chorus of folks not happy with grub2. 

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Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:18:50 -0400 (EDT), Steve Litt wrote:
> 
> I considered going back to LILO, but it still has no understanding of
> filesystems: It's easy to bork and hard to fix.  Not as hard as Grub 2
> though.

I did switch back from grub2 to lilo, and I'm glad I did.  I actually
like lilo's file-system-agnostic approach.  And these days, with the
kernel and initramfs hooks in place, it's much harder to bork it than
it used to be.  See my lilo web page below for more information:

   http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm
> 
> Is there a simpler bootloader that works with Linux?  I don't want GUI.
> I don't want a framebuffer. I don't want a splash screen. And I don't
> want to wade through seven files to turn those things off. Basically,
> I'd like something like LILO that understands ext4.

The closest thing I know to what you describe above is extlinux.  It is
packaged for Debian by a package of the same name.  You might want to
check it out.

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Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 10:05 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:38 AM, Kruppt  wrote:
> > On 2014-04-23, Steve Litt  wrote:
> >>
> >> Is there a simpler bootloader that works with Linux? I don't want GUI.
> >> I don't want a framebuffer. I don't want a splash screen. And I don't
> >> want to wade through seven files to turn those things off. Basically,
> >> I'd like something like LILO that understands ext4.
> >
> > There are patched versions of Grub Legacy out there that
> > *understand* ext4 and the use of UUID's.
> 
> The last versions of Fedora's grub1 (IIRC in F15) could read an ext4
> filesystem so you could get its src.rpm, unpack, and rebuild it.

I suspect that grub legacy from Debian/*buntus is able to boot into ext4
too, since I used grub legacy. I only switched to grub2, because I tried
to boot FreeBSD without a chainload ... in the end I chainloaded
FreeBSD.



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Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Darac Marjal  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 03:35:18PM +0200, maderios wrote:
>> On 04/23/2014 06:18 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>> >Now, with grub 2, I need to be an expert on seven or so files that get
>> >processed into one big one, which acts as the config. I don't mind
>>
>> You need to edit only one file: /etc/default/grub
>> Then
>> update-grub
>> and it works...
>
> Which, when it comes down to it, is no really any different to editing
> /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf and running update-exim4.conf (which I
> don't see people complaining about)

Or editing the "AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST" section in
"/boot/grub/menu.lst" and running "update-grub" for grub1.


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Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:38 AM, Kruppt  wrote:
> On 2014-04-23, Steve Litt  wrote:
>>
>> Is there a simpler bootloader that works with Linux? I don't want GUI.
>> I don't want a framebuffer. I don't want a splash screen. And I don't
>> want to wade through seven files to turn those things off. Basically,
>> I'd like something like LILO that understands ext4.
>
> There are patched versions of Grub Legacy out there that
> *understand* ext4 and the use of UUID's.

The last versions of Fedora's grub1 (IIRC in F15) could read an ext4
filesystem so you could get its src.rpm, unpack, and rebuild it.


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Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-24 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 03:35:18PM +0200, maderios wrote:
> On 04/23/2014 06:18 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> 
> >Now, with grub 2, I need to be an expert on seven or so files that get
> >processed into one big one, which acts as the config. I don't mind
> 
> Hi
> You need to edit only one file: /etc/default/grub
> Then
> update-grub
> and it works...

Which, when it comes down to it, is no really any different to editing
/etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf and running update-exim4.conf (which I
don't see people complaining about)



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Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-24 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Steve Litt  wrote:
>
> Grub used to be good software. Predictable, non-surprising, one config
> file you edited with an editor. Those days are gone.
>
> Now, with grub 2, I need to be an expert on seven or so files that get
> processed into one big one, which acts as the config. I don't mind
> acquiring expertise for something important like LaTeX for writing
> books or Python for making my computer do my bidding, but I don't want
> to spend hours or days gaining expertise just for a program telling the
> computer the kernel and initrd locations, and a few other things. With
> gui, splash screens, frame-buffers, and all sorts of other gobblty-gook.
>
> I considered going back to LILO, but it still has no understanding of
> filesystems: It's easy to bork and hard to fix. Not as hard as Grub 2
> though.
>
> Is there a simpler bootloader that works with Linux? I don't want GUI.
> I don't want a framebuffer. I don't want a splash screen. And I don't
> want to wade through seven files to turn those things off. Basically,
> I'd like something like LILO that understands ext4.

You don't need to understand all of grub's files in order to use it.
You just have to set the options that you want in "/etc/default/grub"
and run "update-grub".

If you want to create a hand-crafted menu entry, you can edit
"/etc/grub.d/40_custom".

And that's it.

If the above isn't allowing you to boot, then file a bug report.

The splash screen isn't a function of the bootloader but of the kernel cmdline.

Try "GRUB_TERMINAL="console" and "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX="text" in
"/etc/default/grub" for a text console.


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Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-24 Thread maderios

On 04/23/2014 06:18 PM, Steve Litt wrote:


Now, with grub 2, I need to be an expert on seven or so files that get
processed into one big one, which acts as the config. I don't mind


Hi
You need to edit only one file: /etc/default/grub
Then
update-grub
and it works...
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Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-24 Thread Kruppt
On 2014-04-23, Steve Litt  wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:54:22 +0600
> Muntasim Ul Haque  wrote:
>
>> When I press Enter then it boots into Windows 8 without any problem.
>> So I don't have any big issue here except Windows 8 is detected as
>> Windows Vista and that occurrence of error message. So what's the
>> remedy?
>
> Grub used to be good software. Predictable, non-surprising, one config
> file you edited with an editor. Those days are gone.
>
> Now, with grub 2, I need to be an expert on seven or so files that get
> processed into one big one, which acts as the config. I don't mind
> acquiring expertise for something important like LaTeX for writing
> books or Python for making my computer do my bidding, but I don't want
> to spend hours or days gaining expertise just for a program telling the
> computer the kernel and initrd locations, and a few other things. With
> gui, splash screens, frame-buffers, and all sorts of other gobblty-gook.
>
> I considered going back to LILO, but it still has no understanding of
> filesystems: It's easy to bork and hard to fix. Not as hard as Grub 2
> though.
>
> Is there a simpler bootloader that works with Linux? I don't want GUI.
> I don't want a framebuffer. I don't want a splash screen. And I don't
> want to wade through seven files to turn those things off. Basically,
> I'd like something like LILO that understands ext4.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance
>
>

There are patched versions of Grub Legacy out there that
*understand* ext4 and the use of UUID's. I know that a LiveCD
Debian varient called Mepis, the latest of the 8.5 versions
has this patched version of GRUB Legacy. If you downloaded 
their latest 8.5 LiveCD you could install this patched version 
of Legacy Grub from the LiveCD. (Without having to install OS)
Also the LiveCD version of ArchBang pre systemd 
had a patched version of Grub Legacy also.
Sorry don't remember the "version", just remember that it
was the version pre systemd, as they changed to GRUB2 after
that point in time. I'm sure there are other places to
find this patched version of Grub-Legacy, I just don't remember them
at this point in time. I use both Grub2 and Grub Legacy myself.
I have not messed yet with any UEFI or EFI systems, so can not
comment on that. In my case I use Grub Legacy (installed MBR 
and first ext partition on HDD's) and install all GRUB2 to the 
root partition of all other GNU/Linux installs on drives. 
I can boot directly to any of the other Linux installs 
from Grub-Legacy or chainload to GRUB2 
for it's added features if need be. 
(boot directly from ISO's etc.)


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Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-23 Thread Marc Shapiro

On 04/23/2014 09:18 AM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:54:22 +0600
Muntasim Ul Haque  wrote:


When I press Enter then it boots into Windows 8 without any problem.
So I don't have any big issue here except Windows 8 is detected as
Windows Vista and that occurrence of error message. So what's the
remedy?

Grub used to be good software. Predictable, non-surprising, one config
file you edited with an editor. Those days are gone.

Now, with grub 2, I need to be an expert on seven or so files t

That is why I am still using lilo.  I can understand the lilo.conf file!

Marc


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Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 23:25 +0300, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:18:50PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Is there a simpler bootloader that works with Linux? I don't want GUI.
> > I don't want a framebuffer. I don't want a splash screen. And I don't
> > want to wade through seven files to turn those things off. Basically,
> > I'd like something like LILO that understands ext4.
> 
> It should be still possible with GRUB2. I don't use any of those either,
> and my grub.cfg is like:
> 
>   linux ...
>   initrd ...
>   boot

Currently, my manually edited grub.cfg does look like the one below. No
splash screens and other crap, I just didn't care about all unneeded
crap and some entries are strange, because I'm lazy and used provided
software to transform a menu.lst to a grub.cfg.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /mnt/debi386/boot/grub/grub.cfg
# 2014-Apr-21

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
  load_env
fi
set default="0"
if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
  set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
  save_env saved_entry
  set prev_saved_entry=
  save_env prev_saved_entry
  set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
  if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
saved_entry="${chosen}"
save_env saved_entry
  fi
}

function load_video {
  insmod vbe
  insmod vga
  insmod video_bochs
  insmod video_cirrus
}

insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,msdos15)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 3f6ced07-7c5d-4466-8914-50614b25126f
if loadfont /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 ; then
  set gfxmode=640x480
  load_video
  insmod gfxterm
  insmod part_msdos
  insmod ext2
  set root='(hd1,msdos15)'
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 3f6ced07-7c5d-4466-8914-50614b25126f
  set locale_dir=($root)/boot/grub/locale
  set lang=en_US
  insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
set timeout=5
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,msdos15)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 3f6ced07-7c5d-4466-8914-50614b25126f
insmod png
if background_image /usr/share/images/desktop-base/joy-grub.png; then
  set color_normal=white/black
  set color_highlight=black/white
else
  set menu_color_normal=cyan/blue
  set menu_color_highlight=white/blue
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

menuentry 'Debian,Linux 3.8.13-rt14-pae-rocketmouse-2' --class 
debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,msdos15)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
3f6ced07-7c5d-4466-8914-50614b25126f
echo'Loading Linux 3.8.13-rt14-pae-rocketmouse-2 ...'
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.13-rt14-pae-rocketmouse-2 
root=UUID=3f6ced07-7c5d-4466-8914-50614b25126f ro  quiet
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-3.8.13-rt14-pae-rocketmouse-2
}

menuentry 'Debian,Linux 3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-686-pae' --class debian 
--class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,msdos15)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
3f6ced07-7c5d-4466-8914-50614b25126f
echo'Loading Linux 3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-686-pae ...'
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-686-pae 
root=UUID=3f6ced07-7c5d-4466-8914-50614b25126f ro  quiet
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-686-pae
}

menuentry 'Debian,Linux 3.8.13.14-rt30-pae-rocketmouse-1' 
--class debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,msdos15)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
3f6ced07-7c5d-4466-8914-50614b25126f
echo'Loading Linux 3.8.13.14-rt30-pae-rocketmouse-1 ...'
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.13.14-rt30-pae-rocketmouse-1 
root=UUID=3f6ced07-7c5d-4466-8914-50614b25126f ro  quiet
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-3.8.13.14-rt30-pae-rocketmouse-1
}

menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae' --class debian 
--class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,msdos15)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
3f6ced07-7c5d-4466-8914-50614b25126f
echo'Loading Linux 3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae ...'
linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae 
root=UUID=3f6ced07-7c5d-4466-8914-50614b25126f ro  quiet
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae
}

menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4-rt-686-pae (recovery mode)' 
--class debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
load_video
insmod gzio
in

Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-23 Thread Aaro Koskinen
Hi,

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:18:50PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Is there a simpler bootloader that works with Linux? I don't want GUI.
> I don't want a framebuffer. I don't want a splash screen. And I don't
> want to wade through seven files to turn those things off. Basically,
> I'd like something like LILO that understands ext4.

It should be still possible with GRUB2. I don't use any of those either,
and my grub.cfg is like:

linux ...
initrd ...
boot

A.


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Re: Re: grub2 menu problems

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
> - Original Message -
> From: Muntasim Ul Haque
> Sent: 04/24/14 12:43 AM
> To: mailingl...@darac.org.uk
> Subject: Re: Re: grub2 menu problems
> 
> I'm using Debian Wheezy and grub2 is default here. And I do not have Windows 
> Vista installed. It's just as I told you, grub2 detected Windows 8 as Windows 
> Vista.

Other than the problem of grub2 failing to detect Windows 8 properly, you are 
able to boot into Windows 8, is that correct? If yes, I would leave it at that 
if I were you.


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Re: Re: grub2 menu problems

2014-04-23 Thread Muntasim Ul Haque
I'm using Debian Wheezy and grub2 is default here. And I do not have 
Windows Vista installed. It's just as I told you, grub2 detected Windows 
8 as Windows Vista.



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Re: Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 12:18 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:54:22 +0600
> Muntasim Ul Haque  wrote:
> 
> > When I press Enter then it boots into Windows 8 without any problem.
> > So I don't have any big issue here except Windows 8 is detected as
> > Windows Vista and that occurrence of error message. So what's the
> > remedy?
> 
> Grub used to be good software. Predictable, non-surprising, one config
> file you edited with an editor. Those days are gone.
> 
> Now, with grub 2, I need to be an expert on seven or so files that get
> processed into one big one, which acts as the config. I don't mind
> acquiring expertise for something important like LaTeX for writing
> books or Python for making my computer do my bidding, but I don't want
> to spend hours or days gaining expertise just for a program telling the
> computer the kernel and initrd locations, and a few other things. With
> gui, splash screens, frame-buffers, and all sorts of other gobblty-gook.
> 
> I considered going back to LILO, but it still has no understanding of
> filesystems: It's easy to bork and hard to fix. Not as hard as Grub 2
> though.
> 
> Is there a simpler bootloader that works with Linux? I don't want GUI.
> I don't want a framebuffer. I don't want a splash screen. And I don't
> want to wade through seven files to turn those things off. Basically,
> I'd like something like LILO that understands ext4.

Pff, I'm using grub2 and I edit grub.cfg directly. However, a lot of
experienced Linux users prefer Syslinux.


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Alternatives to grub and lilo? was grub2 menu problems

2014-04-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:54:22 +0600
Muntasim Ul Haque  wrote:

> When I press Enter then it boots into Windows 8 without any problem.
> So I don't have any big issue here except Windows 8 is detected as
> Windows Vista and that occurrence of error message. So what's the
> remedy?

Grub used to be good software. Predictable, non-surprising, one config
file you edited with an editor. Those days are gone.

Now, with grub 2, I need to be an expert on seven or so files that get
processed into one big one, which acts as the config. I don't mind
acquiring expertise for something important like LaTeX for writing
books or Python for making my computer do my bidding, but I don't want
to spend hours or days gaining expertise just for a program telling the
computer the kernel and initrd locations, and a few other things. With
gui, splash screens, frame-buffers, and all sorts of other gobblty-gook.

I considered going back to LILO, but it still has no understanding of
filesystems: It's easy to bork and hard to fix. Not as hard as Grub 2
though.

Is there a simpler bootloader that works with Linux? I don't want GUI.
I don't want a framebuffer. I don't want a splash screen. And I don't
want to wade through seven files to turn those things off. Basically,
I'd like something like LILO that understands ext4.

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
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Re: grub2 menu problems

2014-04-23 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 05:54:22PM +0600, Muntasim Ul Haque wrote:
>Hi,
>I dual-booted Debian with Windows 8. Windows 8 is shown as Windows Vista
>in grub menu. When I select that Windows Vista and press the Enter key, an
>error message occurs saying:
> 
>error: no argument specified
>press any key to continue...
> 
>When I press Enter then it boots into Windows 8 without any problem. So I
>don't have any big issue here except Windows 8 is detected as Windows
>Vista and that occurrence of error message. So what's the remedy?

What version of grub and/or os-prober are you using? It may simply be
that you're using a version which is too old to know what "Windows 8"
is. Alternatively, it may be that there's no reliable way to
differentiate between Vista and 8 from a booting perspective (though
this is unlikely; what if you were triple-booting Linux, Vista and 8?
You'd want to be able to differentiate the two).

> 
>With thanks,
>Muntasim Ul Haque


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Re: grub2 menu problems

2014-04-23 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
What are the specifications of your hardware?

- CPU (brand and model)
- chipset (brand and model)
- RAM (brand, model and capacity)
- hard disk drive (brand, model and capacity)


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grub2 menu problems

2014-04-23 Thread Muntasim Ul Haque

Hi,
I dual-booted Debian with Windows 8. Windows 8 is shown as /Windows 
Vista/ in grub menu. When I select that Windows Vista and press the 
Enter key, an error message occurs saying: *


error: no argument specified**
**press any key to continue...*

When I press Enter then it boots into Windows 8 without any problem. So 
I don't have any big issue here except Windows 8 is detected as Windows 
Vista and that occurrence of error message. So what's the remedy?


With thanks,
Muntasim Ul Haque


Re: GRUB Menu Problems After Reinstalling Windows

2013-12-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Scott Ferguson wrote:
> Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote:
> > I dual-booted Debian with Windows. I reinstalled my Windows and now the
> > GRUB menu does not appear. How can I fix this without reinstalling
> > Debian again?
> > With thanks,
> > Muntasim-Ul-Haque
> 
> Use the rescue option on the installation CD/DVD
> 
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html.en

Yes.  For slightly more information there are recent postings about
how to use rescue mode.  (Full disclosure: This is one of mine.)

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/01/msg00218.html

Use rescue mode to get to the menu item "Execute a shell in
/dev/...".  That will get you a root shell on your previous system.
At that point install grub again.  Probably this but inspect and use
the appropriate for your system.

  grub-install /dev/sda

Bob


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Re: GRUB Menu Problems After Reinstalling Windows

2013-12-28 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29/12/13 01:50, Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote:
> Hi,
> I dual-booted Debian with Windows. I reinstalled my Windows and now the
> GRUB menu does not appear. How can I fix this without reinstalling
> Debian again?
> With thanks,
> Muntasim-Ul-Haque



Use the rescue option on the installation CD/DVD

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html.en


Kind regards


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GRUB Menu Problems After Reinstalling Windows

2013-12-28 Thread Muntasim-Ul-Haque

Hi,
I dual-booted Debian with Windows. I reinstalled my Windows and now the 
GRUB menu does not appear. How can I fix this without reinstalling 
Debian again?

With thanks,
Muntasim-Ul-Haque


menu problems after upgrading sawfish

2004-06-19 Thread Baurjan Ismagulov
Hello,

I've upgraded sawfish to 1.3+cvs20040617-3, and now the programs menu
contains only a few items like xterm, emacs, gv, xcalc, netscape.
update-menus doesn't seem to have any effect (it worked with the
previous version). I've tried a couple of suggestions from README.Debian
and debian-user archives, but couldn't find a solution for my problem.
Any idea?

Thanks in advance,
Baurjan.


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Re: Blender menu problems

2003-03-07 Thread csj
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:17:05 +,
Colin Watson wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:45:30PM +, John Stevenson wrote:

> > I am running the testing distribution of Debian and have
> > problems with the application 'blender'.
> > 
> > On launching the program it automatically spans the whole
> > screen, seems to work outside of the window manager (i.e. no
> > window decoration)

That's a bug? I thought it was a feature. When you're running it
you probably don't want to be running anything else. I've seen
this behaviour even in blender-non-free. So if at all it's an
upstream bug. FWIW my WM is fluxbox, running at 800x600
resolution.

> > and most importantly the menus are drawn (when selected)
> > about quater of the screen down.

I can't confirm that one. My Blender menus drop down just like
the menus of any typical Gnome or KDE program. The main
difference I see is that to access another menu or a submenu you
have to click at it (i.e. no hover to activate).

> Looks a bit like bug #174617, perhaps. If you think not (I'm
> not familiar with blender), then please file a new bug report.
> 
>   http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting


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Re: Blender menu problems

2003-03-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 09:45:30PM +, John Stevenson wrote:
> I am running the testing distribution of Debian and have problems with 
> the application 'blender'.
> 
> On launching the program it automatically spans the whole screen, seems 
> to work outside of the window manager (i.e. no window decoration) and 
> most importantly the menus are drawn (when selected) about quater of the 
> screen down.

Looks a bit like bug #174617, perhaps. If you think not (I'm not
familiar with blender), then please file a new bug report.

  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

Cheers,

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Blender menu problems

2003-03-06 Thread John Stevenson
I am running the testing distribution of Debian and have problems with 
the application 'blender'.

On launching the program it automatically spans the whole screen, seems 
to work outside of the window manager (i.e. no window decoration) and 
most importantly the menus are drawn (when selected) about quater of the 
screen down.

I have not tried blender since using testing and the only thing I have 
added to testing is the new gnome2.2 debs from:

## Backport of Gnome2 for Woody
deb http://mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/
deb-src http://mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody gnome2.2/
Any clues??
John.
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[jpb@cybertours.com: Re: menu problems]

2000-01-23 Thread Joe Bouchard
On Sun, Jan 23, 2000 at 11:30:38AM -0500, eric k. wolven wrote:
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> Menus in all my windowmanagers are incomplete and some applications don't 
> work.Eg, netscape doesn't respond even from the commandline, much less the 
> menu.  The app starts then...nada.

menu_2.1.5-2.1_i386.deb and plugger_3.2-1_i386.deb seem to be bad.  If
you did an apt-get upgrade you probably got them.  In my case I went to
/var/cache/apt/archives and the old ones were there, so I removed the
latest ones, installed the older ones, and I was all set.

Good luck.

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Re: menu problems

2000-01-23 Thread Ethan Benson

On 23/1/2000 eric k. wolven wrote:



Menus in all my windowmanagers are incomplete and some applications 
don't work.Eg, netscape doesn't respond even from the commandline, 
much less the menu.  The app starts then...nada.


Any help would be appreciated.


have you tried running update-menus, as your uid?

what exactly is happening when you try and run netscape from the 
command line?  do you get command not found or does it give an error? 
you should see something! have you tried running the real netscape 
binary instead of the wrapper script "netscape" ? (its in 
/usr/lib/netscape somewhere, called something like 
netscape-blah.smotif.real or some other such thing)



apparently a recent update to plugger for netscape has been causing 
Bus errors, removing it solves it.


without more info its hard to give suggestions!


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Re: menu problems

2000-01-23 Thread eric k. wolven
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Dear All:

Got console keyboard problem fixed--went to kdb and re-configured--duh!  I 
still don't know how it happened...

Problem 2, still remains.

Menus in all my windowmanagers are incomplete and some applications don't 
work.Eg, netscape doesn't respond even from the commandline, much less the 
menu.  The app starts then...nada.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

eric k. wolven 
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menu problems

1999-10-18 Thread Mason Konkle
Somehow my menus from within X got messed up. All of the games are in
the root menu. So when i pop up the menu it goes off the top and bottom
of the screen. I tried running 'update-menus' and also tried installing
some applications that would cause the menu to update automagically but
it is still messed up. Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Mason