Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-25 Thread Petter Adsen
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:18:56 +0200
notoneofmy notoneofmyse...@gmx.de wrote:

 On 15-06-23 6:12 PM, Proxy One wrote:
  What Debian version do you use? I writing from Wheezy box and I have
  just installed GMPC and gmpc-plugins. There is shout plugin and it can
  be activated. 
 I'm on Jessie. I spent an entire day trying to recompile it. Without
 much luck.
 
 With the earlier version I had, I was able to see a few plugins, but the
 currently installed version has none, despite running apt-get gmpc-plugins.
 
 I had similar great difficulties with mplayer. I gave up, for now on that.

I hesitate to ask this as it isn't what you are asking for, but do you
have a specific reason to stream the music the way you do?

It might be easier to just export your music collection via NFS, mount
it on your clients, and just use any old music player to play the
files.

Just a suggestion. :)

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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-23 Thread Proxy One
On 2015-Jun-23 10:15, notoneofmyseeds wrote:
 On 06/23/2015 12:33 AM, Proxy One wrote:
 On the screenshot on that link you can
 see how mplayer is used to actually play the sound. You can use command
 like that outside GMPC. Just use IP of your NAS instead of localhost.
 Thanks a lot again. But can't, much as I've tried, find a way to
 install the plugin on that blog. It's a great post, however. I have
 installed gmpc-plugins, and got some but not shout.
 
 If anyone has ideas.
 
What Debian version do you use? I writing from Wheezy box and I have
just installed GMPC and gmpc-plugins. There is shout plugin and it can
be activated. 



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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-23 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-23 6:12 PM, Proxy One wrote:
 What Debian version do you use? I writing from Wheezy box and I have
 just installed GMPC and gmpc-plugins. There is shout plugin and it can
 be activated. 
I'm on Jessie. I spent an entire day trying to recompile it. Without
much luck.

With the earlier version I had, I was able to see a few plugins, but the
currently installed version has none, despite running apt-get gmpc-plugins.

I had similar great difficulties with mplayer. I gave up, for now on that.

Thanks for your continuing support. Very much appreciated.

Cheers,
Michael


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-23 Thread notoneofmyseeds

On 06/22/2015 11:59 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

Did you say which DE, if any?  If so, it would be kind of you to repeat it,
and if not, what is it?

Lisi
It's XFCE4, which I quite like; lean and mean. However, I'd like to 
configure it for some useful nifty tools, such as making the ability to 
search the machine and local network more accessible, etc.



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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-23 Thread notoneofmyseeds

On 06/23/2015 12:33 AM, Proxy One wrote:

On the screenshot on that link you can
see how mplayer is used to actually play the sound. You can use command
like that outside GMPC. Just use IP of your NAS instead of localhost.
Thanks a lot again. But can't, much as I've tried, find a way to install 
the plugin on that blog. It's a great post, however. I have installed 
gmpc-plugins, and got some but not shout.


If anyone has ideas.


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-22 1:23 PM, Proxy One wrote:
 By default, it will send sound to it's local sound card (pulse audio or
 alsa). You can instead send that sound on some port as
 httpd type and stream it so it can be captured by some external
 application. 

 audio_output {
 typehttpd
 nameMy HTTP Stream
 encoder vorbis# optional, vorbis or lame
 port8001
 bitrate 128   # do not define if quality is 
 defined
 format  44100:16:1
 }

 I used vlc and mplayer to listen that kind of stream on my computer.


 HTH
Thanks a lot for this, I will try it out. Where in the mpd.conf file
should I put this?

Have you used or tried GMPC, once you do, you might give up on vlc.

Here's a link: http://gmpc.wikia.com/wiki/GMPC_FEATURES

To be clear, I want to use GMPC, installed on my laptop, to control mpd
that is installed on the NAS. And so by doing this, listen to music on
my laptop. I hope this is clear now.

Thanks a lot for your input.


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-22 11:49 AM, Konstantinos Pachnis wrote:
 Hello,

 I got a bit confused. Does ario works or not? Have you tried playing
 an audio file with a different player?
No, ario does not work. And I don't know if the problem is with ario or
gmpc. And this is the reason I mentioned all in the initial post. So I
can see how best I can track down the problem.

 Do you run mpd as a system service or under your account?
 If you have modified your mpd configuration, would be really helpful to 
 have a look at it.
It belongs in the multimedia group. I have not edit the mpd.conf file at
all, except to show it the directory of the music folder.

 If you start an audio mixer (alsamixer) do you see any controls for you 
 sound card?
I'm on pulse. I can remove it, along with pulsecontrol, if you think
this might help. But I know that the mpd.conf file has a pulse entry in
the audio output section.

Thanks a lot for your help. If I can get this trio of applications to
work, it indeed would be great, as they're all great pieces of software.

 Cheers,


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Konstantinos Pachnis
Could you enable the pulse audio output on /etc/mpd.conf

audio_output {
   typepulse
   nameMy Pulse Output
}

Cheers,

On 22-06-2015, notoneofmy wrote:
 On 15-06-22 11:49 AM, Konstantinos Pachnis wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I got a bit confused. Does ario works or not? Have you tried playing
  an audio file with a different player?
 No, ario does not work. And I don't know if the problem is with ario or
 gmpc. And this is the reason I mentioned all in the initial post. So I
 can see how best I can track down the problem.
 
  Do you run mpd as a system service or under your account?
  If you have modified your mpd configuration, would be really helpful to 
  have a look at it.
 It belongs in the multimedia group. I have not edit the mpd.conf file at
 all, except to show it the directory of the music folder.
 
  If you start an audio mixer (alsamixer) do you see any controls for you 
  sound card?
 I'm on pulse. I can remove it, along with pulsecontrol, if you think
 this might help. But I know that the mpd.conf file has a pulse entry in
 the audio output section.
 
 Thanks a lot for your help. If I can get this trio of applications to
 work, it indeed would be great, as they're all great pieces of software.
 
  Cheers,
 
 
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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Proxy
On 2015-Jun-22 18:34, notoneofmy wrote:
 On 15-06-22 1:23 PM, Proxy One wrote:
  By default, it will send sound to it's local sound card (pulse audio or
  alsa). You can instead send that sound on some port as
  httpd type and stream it so it can be captured by some external
  application. 
 
  audio_output {
  typehttpd
  nameMy HTTP Stream
  encoder vorbis# optional, vorbis or lame
  port8001
  bitrate 128   # do not define if quality 
  is defined
  format  44100:16:1
  }
 
  I used vlc and mplayer to listen that kind of stream on my computer.
 
 
  HTH
 Thanks a lot for this, I will try it out. Where in the mpd.conf file
 should I put this?

You can put that anywhere in your mpd.conf

 Have you used or tried GMPC, once you do, you might give up on vlc.
 
 Here's a link: http://gmpc.wikia.com/wiki/GMPC_FEATURES
 
 To be clear, I want to use GMPC, installed on my laptop, to control mpd
 that is installed on the NAS. And so by doing this, listen to music on
 my laptop. I hope this is clear now.
 
 Thanks a lot for your input.

You don't understand the concept. You can't just use GMPC. It's used to
control the MPD, but it can't capture it's output (music you'd like to
listen). To be able to listen that music on your laptop, you need to use
some media player that can play network stream, just as you would do
with internet radio station. 


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Proxy One
On 2015-Jun-22 20:53, Proxy wrote:
 On 2015-Jun-22 18:34, notoneofmy wrote:
  On 15-06-22 1:23 PM, Proxy One wrote:
   By default, it will send sound to it's local sound card (pulse audio or
   alsa). You can instead send that sound on some port as
   httpd type and stream it so it can be captured by some external
   application. 
  
   audio_output {
   typehttpd
   nameMy HTTP Stream
   encoder vorbis# optional, vorbis or lame
   port8001
   bitrate 128   # do not define if 
   quality is defined
   format  44100:16:1
   }
  
   I used vlc and mplayer to listen that kind of stream on my computer.
  
  
   HTH
  Thanks a lot for this, I will try it out. Where in the mpd.conf file
  should I put this?
 
 You can put that anywhere in your mpd.conf
 
  Have you used or tried GMPC, once you do, you might give up on vlc.
  
  Here's a link: http://gmpc.wikia.com/wiki/GMPC_FEATURES
  
  To be clear, I want to use GMPC, installed on my laptop, to control mpd
  that is installed on the NAS. And so by doing this, listen to music on
  my laptop. I hope this is clear now.
  
  Thanks a lot for your input.
 
 You don't understand the concept. You can't just use GMPC. It's used to
 control the MPD, but it can't capture it's output (music you'd like to
 listen). To be able to listen that music on your laptop, you need to use
 some media player that can play network stream, just as you would do
 with internet radio station. 

It seams that there is actually a way to use only GMPC (kinda, as you
still need mplayer installed):
http://blog.sarine.nl/2011/02/06/gmpcmpdssh-listen-to-your-music-from-home-at-work/

You don't need that ssh port forwarding to make it work, but if you
don't limit mpd http port to your laptop's address, anyone could capture
that stream. Not really a issue if it's on your local network. 

I haven't tried this and it's a little old article, but I guess it will
work.

Regards,
PO
 


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmyseeds

On 06/22/2015 10:11 PM, Proxy One wrote:

You don't understand the concept. You can't just use GMPC. It's used to
control the MPD, but it can't capture it's output (music you'd like to
listen). To be able to listen that music on your laptop, you need to use
some media player that can play network stream, just as you would do
with internet radio station.
OK, I finally get this. OK, now the question is; what can I use to 
listen to the music stream from MPD?

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
For now, this is a local network, so I'm not so worried about security. 
But I will look at the link.
I will post the result soon with the configuration you sent earlier, 
though I need something now to test/listen with, since GMPC is not that. 
Any ideas?


Cheers


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Proxy One
On 2015-Jun-22 22:56, notoneofmyseeds wrote:
 On 06/22/2015 10:11 PM, Proxy One wrote:
 You don't understand the concept. You can't just use GMPC. It's used to
 control the MPD, but it can't capture it's output (music you'd like to
 listen). To be able to listen that music on your laptop, you need to use
 some media player that can play network stream, just as you would do
 with internet radio station.
 OK, I finally get this. OK, now the question is; what can I use to listen to
 the music stream from MPD?

Like I said, you can use mplayer, vlc or any other player capable of
playing network stream. You can even use GMPC as explained in link I
sent if you install shout plugin. On the screenshot on that link you can
see how mplayer is used to actually play the sound. You can use command
like that outside GMPC. Just use IP of your NAS instead of localhost. 


 Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
 For now, this is a local network, so I'm not so worried about security. But
 I will look at the link.
 I will post the result soon with the configuration you sent earlier, though
 I need something now to test/listen with, since GMPC is not that. Any ideas?
 
 Cheers
 

Regards,
PO
 


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 22 June 2015 21:56:48 notoneofmyseeds wrote:
 On 06/22/2015 10:11 PM, Proxy One wrote:
  You don't understand the concept. You can't just use GMPC. It's used to
 
  control the MPD, but it can't capture it's output (music you'd like to
  listen). To be able to listen that music on your laptop, you need to use
  some media player that can play network stream, just as you would do
  with internet radio station.

 OK, I finally get this. OK, now the question is; what can I use to
 listen to the music stream from MPD?
 Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
 For now, this is a local network, so I'm not so worried about security.
 But I will look at the link.
 I will post the result soon with the configuration you sent earlier,
 though I need something now to test/listen with, since GMPC is not that.
 Any ideas?

Did you say which DE, if any?  If so, it would be kind of you to repeat it, 
and if not, what is it?

Lisi


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-21 11:50 PM, sp113438 wrote:
 Hello,
 gmpc has a volume adjuster in the upper right corner. Independent of
 alsa.

 Do other music programs work?
I raised that volume and got no sound. No others work, including ario. I
like GMPC very much.

Thanks a lot.


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Konstantinos Pachnis
Hello,

I got a bit confused. Does ario works or not? Have you tried playing
an audio file with a different player?

Do you run mpd as a system service or under your account?
If you have modified your mpd configuration, would be really helpful to 
have a look at it.

If you start an audio mixer (alsamixer) do you see any controls for you 
sound card?

Cheers,


On 22-06-2015, notoneofmy wrote:
 On 15-06-21 11:50 PM, sp113438 wrote:
  Hello,
  gmpc has a volume adjuster in the upper right corner. Independent of
  alsa.
 
  Do other music programs work?
 I raised that volume and got no sound. No others work, including ario. I
 like GMPC very much.
 
 Thanks a lot.
 
 
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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-22 Thread Proxy One
On 2015-Jun-21 23:19, notoneofmyseeds wrote:
 This might not quite be on-topic, but I suspect since it's all
 linux, help could be had there.
 
 All is configured, mindlna, GMPC and MPD; the issue now is that GMPC
 can play/control MPD, but there's no sound on my laptop while the
 songs are being played.
 
 If you have similar configurations or experience with any of the
 three programs, please pitch in. I'm willing to send any information
 you need. I've spent way too much time on this with no luck.
 
 Cheers
 
If I understood correctly, you have a NAS box/server that hosts your
media. You installed mpd on that box and you want to control it from
your laptop, but you also want to hear music from that box on your
laptop. It wont work that way. GMPC is a client application to control
mpd so you can start, stop, pause etc. your music, but to actually hear
it on your laptop, you need to configure mpd audio_output{} in your
mpd.conf

By default, it will send sound to it's local sound card (pulse audio or
alsa). You can instead send that sound on some port as
httpd type and stream it so it can be captured by some external
application. 

audio_output {
typehttpd
nameMy HTTP Stream
encoder vorbis# optional, vorbis or lame
port8001
bitrate 128   # do not define if quality is 
defined
format  44100:16:1
}

I used vlc and mplayer to listen that kind of stream on my computer.


HTH


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minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-21 Thread notoneofmyseeds
This might not quite be on-topic, but I suspect since it's all linux, 
help could be had there.


All is configured, mindlna, GMPC and MPD; the issue now is that GMPC can 
play/control MPD, but there's no sound on my laptop while the songs are 
being played.


If you have similar configurations or experience with any of the three 
programs, please pitch in. I'm willing to send any information you need. 
I've spent way too much time on this with no luck.


Cheers


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Re: minidlan, GMPC and MPD

2015-06-21 Thread sp113438
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 23:19:36 +0200
notoneofmyseeds notoneofmyse...@gmx.de wrote:

 This might not quite be on-topic, but I suspect since it's all linux, 
 help could be had there.
 
 All is configured, mindlna, GMPC and MPD; the issue now is that GMPC
 can play/control MPD, but there's no sound on my laptop while the
 songs are being played.
 
 If you have similar configurations or experience with any of the
 three programs, please pitch in. I'm willing to send any information
 you need. I've spent way too much time on this with no luck.
 
 Cheers
 
 

Hello,
gmpc has a volume adjuster in the upper right corner. Independent of
alsa.

Do other music programs work?


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