Re: mutt: thread reconstruction?

2003-09-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:49:55AM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 11:05:37PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > OK, is there a way to do this in bulk, in a way other than simply
> > tagging all messages with a common subject as being threaded replies ,
> > one-level deep, of a single initial post?  I don't see this.
> 
> Unfortunately, no.
> 
> > My alternative solution is to have the list configuration changed such
> > that headers are preserved.
> 
> Hmm?

Social engineering.  I've requested a change in message handling of the
list manager.  They say they're working on it.

Peace.

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Re: mutt: thread reconstruction?

2003-09-06 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 11:05:37PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> OK, is there a way to do this in bulk, in a way other than simply
> tagging all messages with a common subject as being threaded replies ,
> one-level deep, of a single initial post?  I don't see this.

Unfortunately, no.

> My alternative solution is to have the list configuration changed such
> that headers are preserved.

Hmm?


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Re: mutt: thread reconstruction?

2003-09-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 03:10:54PM -0700, Vineet Kumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> * Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030905 14:55]:
> > on Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 01:26:14AM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:32:21AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > > > I'd like suggestions on how I might go about restoring at least
> > > > pseudo-threading of articles, though I'm also posting to the list on
> > > > this matter.
> > > 
> > > Tag the message you want to attach to, scroll down to the top message
> > > in the other thread fragment and hit &
> > 
> > Ah, so an inverse "break thread".
> > 
> > OK, is there a way to do this in bulk, in a way other than simply
> > tagging all messages with a common subject as being threaded replies ,
> > one-level deep, of a single initial post?  I don't see this.
> 
> If strict_threads is unset (which it is by default) mutt should do this
> automatically.  If you haven't set strict_threads and you're still not
> getting this behavior, check your reply_regexp and sort_re settings.

See the screenshots posted previously.

For reply_regexp to work properly, 'Re:', etc, needs to be the string
start.  This list is inserting '[listname]' *prior* to the 'Re',
apparently deleting the prior instance of '[listname]' in the reply (I'm
starting to like CommuniGate Pro less and less).  Again, I could apply
my own header rewriting rules, but

OK, partial fix.  I've stripped the [listname] component from the list
subject.  Procmail:

:0
* ^Sender: CNI-COPYRIGHT
{
:0
{ SUBJ_=`formail -c -xSubject: \
| sed -e 's/\[CNI-(C)\]//g'` }

:0 fhwi
| formail -I"Subject: ${SUBJ_}"

:0:
Legal/cni-copyright/
}


Doesn't do proper threading, but at least topics are grouped by
subject/date.

Peace.

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Re: mutt: thread reconstruction?

2003-09-05 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Karsten M. Self ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030905 14:55]:
> on Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 01:26:14AM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:32:21AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > > I'd like suggestions on how I might go about restoring at least
> > > pseudo-threading of articles, though I'm also posting to the list on
> > > this matter.
> > 
> > Tag the message you want to attach to, scroll down to the top message
> > in the other thread fragment and hit &
> 
> Ah, so an inverse "break thread".
> 
> OK, is there a way to do this in bulk, in a way other than simply
> tagging all messages with a common subject as being threaded replies ,
> one-level deep, of a single initial post?  I don't see this.

If strict_threads is unset (which it is by default) mutt should do this
automatically.  If you haven't set strict_threads and you're still not
getting this behavior, check your reply_regexp and sort_re settings.

good times,
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Re: mutt: thread reconstruction?

2003-09-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 01:26:14AM -0700, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:32:21AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > I'd like suggestions on how I might go about restoring at least
> > pseudo-threading of articles, though I'm also posting to the list on
> > this matter.
> 
> Tag the message you want to attach to, scroll down to the top message
> in the other thread fragment and hit &

Ah, so an inverse "break thread".

OK, is there a way to do this in bulk, in a way other than simply
tagging all messages with a common subject as being threaded replies ,
one-level deep, of a single initial post?  I don't see this.

My alternative solution is to have the list configuration changed such
that headers are preserved.

Peace.

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Re: mutt: thread reconstruction?

2003-09-05 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 12:32:21AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> I'd like suggestions on how I might go about restoring at least
> pseudo-threading of articles, though I'm also posting to the list on
> this matter.

Tag the message you want to attach to, scroll down to the top message
in the other thread fragment and hit &

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mutt: thread reconstruction?

2003-09-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
I'm subscribed to a mailing list in which message-ID and references are
being rewritten by an utterly broken mailing list manager (Communigate
Pro).  This breaks threading badly:

http://guildenstern.dyndns.org/~karsten/cni-thread.png
http://guildenstern.dyndns.org/~karsten/cni-nothread.png


Both the Message-ID and References headers are being munged.

I'd like suggestions on how I might go about restoring at least
pseudo-threading of articles, though I'm also posting to the list on
this matter.

Peace.

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