mutt with pgp support?

1999-02-05 Thread Chris Frost
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Does the mutt included with debian (hamm) include support for pgp v5 (or
gpgp)?

I'm thinking of switching over to mutt from pine after hearing how many
people use it here, and after a day of fixing problems trying to get it to
compile on my boxes. :( If anyone here has used both mutt and pine, what
are the main things mutt offers over pine (besides the license); is there
anything which pine does better?

thanks,
Chris
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Re: mutt with pgp support?

1999-02-05 Thread Joey Hess
Chris Frost wrote:
 I'm thinking of switching over to mutt from pine after hearing how many
 people use it here, and after a day of fixing problems trying to get it to
 compile on my boxes. :( If anyone here has used both mutt and pine, what
 are the main things mutt offers over pine (besides the license);

Speed, configurability, less memory use, colors, threading...

 is there anything which pine does better?

Ease of set up, has internal editor.

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Re: mutt with pgp support?

1999-02-05 Thread Stephen A. Witt
On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Chris Frost wrote:

 Does the mutt included with debian (hamm) include support for pgp v5 (or
 gpgp)?
 
 I'm thinking of switching over to mutt from pine after hearing how many
 people use it here, and after a day of fixing problems trying to get it to
 compile on my boxes. :( If anyone here has used both mutt and pine, what
 are the main things mutt offers over pine (besides the license); is there
 anything which pine does better?
 
 thanks,
 Chris

Does mutt have a nice built in address book like pine? Does mutt do the
IMAP thing like pine? Is mutt able to lookup email addresses from an X.500
directory server via LDAP? Uh, these are legitimate questions, meaning I
really don't know the answers. I wasn't trying to be a smarta*s. 

These features have become really essential for me. I have a Debian
machine at work that is my team's mail server to which I connect via
pine/IMAP from home, other software development workstations in our lab,
and remotely via a laptop when I'm on travel. The IMAP functionality
in pine works really great, I love having this central email
repository regardless of where I am physically.

I wish pine had color and that the license thing could be solved more to
Debian's liking. Some would like a glitzier X Windows-based display
(though I would argue that the curses style display had a lot of utility).
When I used mutt several years ago, I seem to remember that it was rather
confusing to configure, whereas pine has a nice built in configuration
utility with on-line help.

Ultimately, though, one's choice of a mail user agent is pretty
subjective, like editors :)  Maybe you should just try mutt for a while
and see if you like it better.
 


Re: mutt with pgp support?

1999-02-05 Thread Graham Ashton
On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 12:08:01AM -0800, Stephen A. Witt wrote:
 On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Chris Frost wrote:
 
  Does the mutt included with debian (hamm) include support for pgp v5 (or
  gpgp)?

I'm not sure. Certainly does pgp2 and pgp3 (whatever that means).

  I'm thinking of switching over to mutt from pine 

I've done that, having used postilion inbetween. I like mutt now I'm used to
it, and got a bit pissed off with pine - it was very slow with large 
mailboxes.

  If anyone here has used both mutt and pine, what
  are the main things mutt offers over pine (besides the license); is there
  anything which pine does better?

as already mentioned, pine has it's own internal editor. I've you've got
an editor that you'd like to write your emails in though, I think this is
a 'feature' of mutt.

 Does mutt have a nice built in address book like pine? 

It has a list of aliases, from which you can select the one you want. I've
not seen anything more swanky than that though.

 Does mutt do the IMAP thing like pine? 

Yes. I've not tried it, but I didn't rate pine's IMAP capabilities so mutt
might be better (i.e. quicker).

 Is mutt able to lookup email addresses from an X.500 directory server 
 via LDAP?

You can specify the name of an external program to use to lookup addresses
for you. i.e. if you have an external program that can look up addresses from
an LDAP server, you're all set.

I *really* appreciate the message threading you get in mutt for mailing
lists too. That's one of it's greatest advantages for me.

 When I used mutt several years ago, I seem to remember that it was rather
 confusing to configure, whereas pine has a nice built in configuration
 utility with on-line help.

It took me an afternoon of reading the docs to find out what all the possible
options were, and then sitting down and hacking together my .muttrc file.

There are some good example .muttrc files available (linked from the FAQ, I
think).

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Graham


Re: mutt with pgp support?

1999-02-05 Thread Rafael Kitover
On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 12:08:01AM -0800, Stephen A. Witt wrote:
 Does mutt have a nice built in address book like pine? Does mutt do the

Mutt has aliases, which are really easy to grab based on current message,
and stuff like that.

 IMAP thing like pine? Is mutt able to lookup email addresses from an X.500

IMAP exists but is very experimental, I would imagine pine's support for
IMAP is alot better.

 I wish pine had color and that the license thing could be solved more to

You can edit in color at least, by using the alternate editor option in
pine. An editor like vim will automatically do highlights on email when it
reads the headers.

 Debian's liking. Some would like a glitzier X Windows-based display
 (though I would argue that the curses style display had a lot of utility).
 When I used mutt several years ago, I seem to remember that it was rather
 confusing to configure, whereas pine has a nice built in configuration
 utility with on-line help.

yup, still is.

 Ultimately, though, one's choice of a mail user agent is pretty
 subjective, like editors :)  Maybe you should just try mutt for a while
 and see if you like it better.

pretty much

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