Re: my experiences trying to install Etch
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 11:00:05PM -0400, "D. Hugh Redelmeier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > I was trying to install the Debian for the first time and ran into several > issues. > > I would send this to installlation-reports but I seem to need a > running Debian system for that. Hi, To send this as an installation-reports bug, add the following stanza at the top of your mail: == snip here = Package: installation-reports == snip here = and send the result to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the blank line after "Package: ..." is significant) Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my experiences trying to install Etch
D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: > I was trying to install the Debian for the first time and ran into several > issues. Welcome! > I would send this to installlation-reports but I seem to need a > running Debian system for that. No, you don't. There is a program called 'reportbug' that will help you to send a bug report or installation report, but the actual report is just an e-mail with certain formal sections, so you could use any e-mail program to send one. Instructions can be found here http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting > Can anybody suggests how I should proceed? (5) is a fairly serious block. > > Context: > > Me: long-time Linux user. This is my first Debian install. > > Computer: eMachine T2625 > - Atlon XP 2600+ > - 640M RAM > - 8G hard disk (small, not original, not previously partitioned) > > Installation medium: > debian-40r0-i386-DVD-1.iso > > I used the GUI installer. > > Issues: > > 1) it wasn't clearly documented that even though there is a sequence >of 3 DVDs avaialble for download (for i386), only the first is >needed for (many?) installs. Where did you get your download from? You don't even need the first DVD. All you need is a ca. 100-200 MB CD-image with the installer components. The first item on debian's download page [1] is "Download a minimal bootable CD image". Where did you find your information that you have to download 3 DVDs in order to install debian? > 2) I saw no published checksums for the .iso files. I find checksums >are a nice confidence-building measure. They are provided. All mirrors I ever used provide them in the same directory as the iso files. > 3) When I booted the installation DVD on my internal DVD writer, all >went well until this step failed, even on retry: > > Load installer components from CD: > loading jfsutils-udeb > >I avoided this problem by starting over, and booting from the >internal DVD reader. > > 4) For partitioning, I selected "Guided - use entire disk" and >"Separate /home partition". > >- it allocated less swap than there is main memory. At least at > one time, swap had to be at least as big as main memory or the memory > would not be used. > >- I was allowed to second-guess a number of partition attributes > proposed, but not the partition size, perhaps the most important > choice. Debian provides some generic defaults. Since you seem to know what partitioning scheme is right for you, why don't you just select 'manual' and enter the information yourself? I find myself never using the default values for any installation of any OS. That includes any installation since the days when I had to install Win95 from its ca. *30 floppy disks*! > 5) far into the package install, just after X11 configuration, the GUI >stopped with > > Configuring cupsys > Installation step failed > An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing > item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The > failing step is: Select and install software > >Retrying the whole "select and install software" step seems >brutal. Why? Debian's apt system keeps track of all (successfully) installed packages. Just because installation of one package fails doesn't mean that all others are unusable. That it fails to install software is possibly a bug, but to help you we need a little more information: - which version of debian are you installing? Stable 4.0 (aka 'etch')? - which task did you select at the end of the base install (desktop, print server, etc)? You should know that you could skip the last step all together, not selecting any predefined tasks. Then you would install the required software 'by hand'. "aptitude install gnome" would install all required to run gnome etc. It's a bit more work, but it would give you much more flexibility to work around such issues manually. HTH, Johannes [1] http://www.de.debian.org/CD/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my experiences trying to install Etch
On 4/20/07, D. Hugh Redelmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was trying to install the Debian for the first time and ran into several issues. I would send this to installlation-reports but I seem to need a running Debian system for that. Can anybody suggests how I should proceed? (5) is a fairly serious block. 2) I saw no published checksums for the .iso files. I find checksums are a nice confidence-building measure. For example, with Fedora I download the .iso from a random mirror but download the checksums from the master site. This has revealed problems at least once. Even better than checksums would be signed checksums. I don't know where you downloaded the iso from, but the MD5SUMS and SHA1SUMS files are in the same directory on the CD image servers as the iso files themselves. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r0/i386/iso-dvd/ There are also files called MD5SUMS.sign and SHA1SUMS.sign. -- Kushal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: my experiences trying to install Etch
On Friday 20 April 2007 13:00, D. Hugh Redelmeier sent this for all our perusal: >---} I was trying to install the Debian for the first time and ran into > several ---} issues. >---} >---} I would send this to installlation-reports but I seem to need a >---} running Debian system for that. >---} >---} Can anybody suggests how I should proceed? (5) is a fairly serious > block. ---} >---} Context: >---} >---} Me: long-time Linux user. This is my first Debian install. >---} >---} Computer: eMachine T2625 >---} - Atlon XP 2600+ >---} - 640M RAM >---} - 8G hard disk (small, not original, not previously partitioned) >---} >---} Installation medium: >---} debian-40r0-i386-DVD-1.iso Hello long time linux user. I haven't used the installer you mention, but a broken one that came out earlier. Type at the boot prompt and go through the questions as they are asked, answer appropriately Partitioning, select partitioning. Why would you do anything else if you have an idea of what you want/need for each partition? Then just follow the prompts and do as you need. It will configure your Internet connection and download the packages you need when you choose them. etc.. If you wish, I have never been there. Always edited my sources list by hand. Allow the installer to set up your base system and reboot. Do you want the installer to add whatever packages you need to run things? I have never gone there either, have always installed the packages I want on the system myself through after the reboot. If the GUI is installed, have also used That way you have control of what is going onto your system. Try that, should work a treat. Charlie >---} I used the GUI installer. >---} >---} Issues: >---} >---} 1) it wasn't clearly documented that even though there is a sequence >---}of 3 DVDs avaialble for download (for i386), only the first is >---}needed for (many?) installs. >---} >---} >---} 2) I saw no published checksums for the .iso files. I find checksums >---}are a nice confidence-building measure. >---} >---}For example, with Fedora I download the .iso from a random mirror >---}but download the checksums from the master site. This has revealed >---}problems at least once. >---} >---}Even better than checksums would be signed checksums. >---} >---} >---} 3) When I booted the installation DVD on my internal DVD writer, all >---}went well until this step failed, even on retry: >---} >---} Load installer components from CD: >---} loading jfsutils-udeb >---} >---}I avoided this problem by starting over, and booting from the >---}internal DVD reader. >---} >---} 4) For partitioning, I selected "Guided - use entire disk" and >---}"Separate /home partition". >---} >---}- it allocated less swap than there is main memory. At least at >---} one time, swap had to be at least as big as main memory or the > memory ---} would not be used. >---} >---}- I was allowed to second-guess a number of partition attributes >---} proposed, but not the partition size, perhaps the most important >---} choice. >---} >---}VT4 said: Partman: Error: unable to determine maximum new size for >---} partition >---} >---}It seems as if the partitioner thinks that if I change the size, >---}the proposed partitions must actually exist. >---} >---} 5) far into the package install, just after X11 configuration, the GUI >---}stopped with >---} >---} Configuring cupsys >---} Installation step failed >---} An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing >---} item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The >---} failing step is: Select and install software >---} >---}Retrying the whole "select and install software" step seems >---}brutal. >---} >---}VT4 shows: >---} >---} in-target: No Gutenprint PPD files to update. >---}... >---} in-target: updating the gdk-pixbuf loaders list for GTK+-2.4.0... >---} in-target: done. >---} in-target: >---} in-target: Setting up desktop-base (4.0.1)... >---} in-target: >---} in-target: tasksel: aptitiude failed (255) >---} main-menu[1363]: WARNING ***:Configuring 'pkgsel' failed with error > code 1 ---} main-menu[1363]: WARNING **: Menu item 'pkgsel' failed. >---} >---} -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ Man is the matter of the cosmos, contemplating itself. - CARL SAGAN *** Debian Etch ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my experiences trying to install Etch
I was trying to install the Debian for the first time and ran into several issues. I would send this to installlation-reports but I seem to need a running Debian system for that. Can anybody suggests how I should proceed? (5) is a fairly serious block. Context: Me: long-time Linux user. This is my first Debian install. Computer: eMachine T2625 - Atlon XP 2600+ - 640M RAM - 8G hard disk (small, not original, not previously partitioned) Installation medium: debian-40r0-i386-DVD-1.iso I used the GUI installer. Issues: 1) it wasn't clearly documented that even though there is a sequence of 3 DVDs avaialble for download (for i386), only the first is needed for (many?) installs. 2) I saw no published checksums for the .iso files. I find checksums are a nice confidence-building measure. For example, with Fedora I download the .iso from a random mirror but download the checksums from the master site. This has revealed problems at least once. Even better than checksums would be signed checksums. 3) When I booted the installation DVD on my internal DVD writer, all went well until this step failed, even on retry: Load installer components from CD: loading jfsutils-udeb I avoided this problem by starting over, and booting from the internal DVD reader. 4) For partitioning, I selected "Guided - use entire disk" and "Separate /home partition". - it allocated less swap than there is main memory. At least at one time, swap had to be at least as big as main memory or the memory would not be used. - I was allowed to second-guess a number of partition attributes proposed, but not the partition size, perhaps the most important choice. VT4 said: Partman: Error: unable to determine maximum new size for partition It seems as if the partitioner thinks that if I change the size, the proposed partitions must actually exist. 5) far into the package install, just after X11 configuration, the GUI stopped with Configuring cupsys Installation step failed An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software Retrying the whole "select and install software" step seems brutal. VT4 shows: in-target: No Gutenprint PPD files to update. ... in-target: updating the gdk-pixbuf loaders list for GTK+-2.4.0... in-target: done. in-target: in-target: Setting up desktop-base (4.0.1)... in-target: in-target: tasksel: aptitiude failed (255) main-menu[1363]: WARNING ***:Configuring 'pkgsel' failed with error code 1 main-menu[1363]: WARNING **: Menu item 'pkgsel' failed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
