Re: nForce Board lockups - Was:2.6 and nvidia

2004-05-14 Thread Daniel Asarnow
Joseph,
It took me a while, but I have a stable system, with
just about every workaround on.  Since I hear this is
fixed in 2.6.6 I might upgrade...but I am kind of
afraid it will break everything.  Irrational, maybe.
Anyway, here are all the different workarounds:
kernel options (lilo.conf):
idle=poll, acpi=off, noapic, noioapic, mem=nopentium
BIOS fixes:
disable CPU disconnect
other fixes:
hdparm -X udma3 /dev/device

 the mem=nopentium is probably total crap.  All of
those have been used...I've been meaning to turn them
off one by one and perform a large grep operation to
try to cause a lockup and find out which one of those
things is really taking care of it, but if this is
actually fixed in 2.6.6 maybe I will just upgrade.
-Daniel

--- "Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Daniel,
> 
> I have an nForce board and it seems a bit unstable. 
> It was REALLY bad
> at first, but I turned in the memory for new and now
> it only locks up
> occasionally, but I have not found any tips on
> making it work with
> Debian and the 2.6 kernel.  Where did you find your
> pointers, and how
> well is it working now?
> 
> --JATF
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Asarnow
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:39 AM
> To: Debian Users
> Subject: Re: 2.6 and nvidia
> 
> 
> Installing the current nvidia gfx drivers in 2.6 is
> actually real simple.  You can download their
> self-installer from nvidia.com's driver section and
> run it with the sh.  It Just Worked for me (well, it
> worked after I found some good workarounds for all
> the lockups my nForce mobo caused).  You may have to
> tell XF86-Config to use the 'nvidia' module, though.
> I do not believe there are any specifics in the
> kernel config to...specify.  You'll probably want to
> turn on VESA 16-bit support, though.
>  
> -Daniel
> 
> 
> > --- hanasaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > My nvidia is due in the mail soon.  The nvidia
> > > packages from apt-cache 
> > > search seem to depend on the 2.4 kernels.  Could
> > you
> > > walk me through the 
> > > steps to get get the nvidia drivers
> > built/installed
> > > on kernel 2.6.x?  I 
> > > have built the kernel with make-kpkg.  Also, Any
> > > specific options to 
> > > choose/not choose in the kernel .config?
> > > 
> > > thanks
> > > 
> > > Were there any package conflicts?
> > > 
> > > I had an ati card and after using alien to
> convert
> > > their .rpm to a .deb 
> > > it installed fine but created mesa depend
> > conflicts.
> > >  Wondering if the 
> > > same happens on nvidia?
> > > 
> > > Kevin Mark wrote:
> > > > On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:46:38AM -0400, Emma
> > > Jane Hogbin wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >>As a warning ... I was getting ready to
> upgrade
> > my
> > > kernel to 2.6. I
> > > >>downloaded the new nvidia package. I was
> > following
> > > instructions from
> > > >>/usr/share/doc without really thinking and did
> a
> > > "make" on the modules
> > > >>package. Within seconds I got dumped out of X
> > and
> > > have been unable to
> > > >>start it ever since. The error messages I'm
> > > getting have to do with the
> > > >>module versions not matching the kernel
> > versions.
> > > >>
> > > >>I have no idea how to get X back under my old
> > > kernel, and the new one
> > > >>isn't ready to be used yet (basically
> nothing's
> > > working yet).
> > > >>
> > > >>So as a warningdo NOT mess around with the
> > > latest nvidia packages 
> > > >>until you know for sure that the rest of the
> 2.6
> > > kernel is going to work. :(
> > > >>
> > > >>emma
> > > >>
> > > >>-- 
> > > >>Emma Jane Hogbin
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Emma,
> > > > are you referring to 'make'ing X or the
> kernel?
> > > > couldnt you just reinstall what was overriten?
> > > > or remove the X packages and install them?
> > > > -Kev
> > > 
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Re: nForce Board lockups - Was:2.6 and nvidia

2004-05-14 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL wrote:
Daniel,

I have an nForce board and it seems a bit unstable.  It was REALLY bad
at first, but I turned in the memory for new and now it only locks up
occasionally, but I have not found any tips on making it work with
Debian and the 2.6 kernel.  Where did you find your pointers, and how
well is it working now?
--JATF
The issue is that there a race condition in the C1 disconnect.
nVidia released the necessary information to the mobo manufacturers
over a year ago, but only one bothered to release a BIOS update
with the fix.  Just before 2.6.6 came out, an nVidia developer
posted to LKML with the information so that the kernel devs
can work around the problem.
Short version: the problem is now fixed in 2.6.6.

If you choose not to upgrade, pass "noapic nolapic" on your
kernel command line.  You loos some performance, but your
machine will be stable.
-Roberto Sanchez


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nForce Board lockups - Was:2.6 and nvidia

2004-05-14 Thread Freivald, Joseph A, GVSOL
Daniel,

I have an nForce board and it seems a bit unstable.  It was REALLY bad
at first, but I turned in the memory for new and now it only locks up
occasionally, but I have not found any tips on making it work with
Debian and the 2.6 kernel.  Where did you find your pointers, and how
well is it working now?

--JATF

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Asarnow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:39 AM
To: Debian Users
Subject: Re: 2.6 and nvidia


Installing the current nvidia gfx drivers in 2.6 is
actually real simple.  You can download their
self-installer from nvidia.com's driver section and
run it with the sh.  It Just Worked for me (well, it
worked after I found some good workarounds for all
the lockups my nForce mobo caused).  You may have to
tell XF86-Config to use the 'nvidia' module, though.
I do not believe there are any specifics in the
kernel config to...specify.  You'll probably want to
turn on VESA 16-bit support, though.
 
-Daniel


> --- hanasaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My nvidia is due in the mail soon.  The nvidia
> > packages from apt-cache 
> > search seem to depend on the 2.4 kernels.  Could
> you
> > walk me through the 
> > steps to get get the nvidia drivers
> built/installed
> > on kernel 2.6.x?  I 
> > have built the kernel with make-kpkg.  Also, Any
> > specific options to 
> > choose/not choose in the kernel .config?
> > 
> > thanks
> > 
> > Were there any package conflicts?
> > 
> > I had an ati card and after using alien to convert
> > their .rpm to a .deb 
> > it installed fine but created mesa depend
> conflicts.
> >  Wondering if the 
> > same happens on nvidia?
> > 
> > Kevin Mark wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 12:46:38AM -0400, Emma
> > Jane Hogbin wrote:
> > > 
> > >>As a warning ... I was getting ready to upgrade
> my
> > kernel to 2.6. I
> > >>downloaded the new nvidia package. I was
> following
> > instructions from
> > >>/usr/share/doc without really thinking and did a
> > "make" on the modules
> > >>package. Within seconds I got dumped out of X
> and
> > have been unable to
> > >>start it ever since. The error messages I'm
> > getting have to do with the
> > >>module versions not matching the kernel
> versions.
> > >>
> > >>I have no idea how to get X back under my old
> > kernel, and the new one
> > >>isn't ready to be used yet (basically nothing's
> > working yet).
> > >>
> > >>So as a warningdo NOT mess around with the
> > latest nvidia packages 
> > >>until you know for sure that the rest of the 2.6
> > kernel is going to work. :(
> > >>
> > >>emma
> > >>
> > >>-- 
> > >>Emma Jane Hogbin
> > > 
> > > Hi Emma,
> > > are you referring to 'make'ing X or the kernel?
> > > couldnt you just reinstall what was overriten?
> > > or remove the X packages and install them?
> > > -Kev
> > 
> > 
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