Re: new user question about stable branch

2003-11-06 Thread David Z Maze
Chris Ochs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is the stable branch frozen in place except for security/bug fixes from the
 time it was released?

Yes.

 I installed woody and then upgraded to kernel 2.4.18, which made me
 think what other packages are update from time to time.

In the particular case of the kernel, the 2.4.18 kernel was
distributed with Debian 3.0 (woody), but it was still a little fresh
to be considered for the default kernel.

 Also, I'm assuming that running woody is the best bet for mission critical
 stuff?

This is probably the use case that stable is most intended for, yeah.
People running desktop machines seem to be frequently frustrated that
stable has old packages, but if you don't want to be running the
GNOME-of-the-week because that server really really needs to be up,
woody is a pretty good call.

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new user question about stable branch

2003-11-05 Thread Chris Ochs

Is the stable branch frozen in place except for security/bug fixes from the
time it was released?  I installed woody and then upgraded to kernel 2.4.18,
which made me think what other packages are update from time to time.

Also, I'm assuming that running woody is the best bet for mission critical
stuff?  We are primarily a freebsd house, but run a few redhat servers for
our sap databases.  Been meaning to dump redhat for a while and now that
their update support is stopping soon it's time to make the switch.

By the way, coming from a bsd background debian really seems to be the
easiest transition.  apt-get is probably more similar to the bsd ports then
rpm is (god I hate rpm's), and unlike redhat or suse it installs most of
what you need for a standard server setup in a conservative, intelligent
way.  Nice work guys.

Chris


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Re: new user question about stable branch

2003-11-05 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:05:57PM -0800, Chris Ochs wrote:
 
 Is the stable branch frozen in place except for security/bug fixes from the
 time it was released?  I installed woody and then upgraded to kernel 2.4.18,
 which made me think what other packages are update from time to time.

In terms of Official Debian, yes. Frozen except for those fixes.
Lots of people use backports of things they just _must_ have newer
versions of, though.
The usual place to look for backports is apt-get.org
For example, I'm working on setting up a woody mail server at home,
using backports of exim4 and spamassassin 2.55...

 Also, I'm assuming that running woody is the best bet for mission critical
 stuff? 

Definitely.
Testing seems to be strangely unpopular, and unstable is nowhere near as
unstable as the name would indicate, but things do occasionally break.
Woody boasts archaic versions of some packages, but when the developers
call it 'stable', they mean it.

 ... (god I hate rpm's),

Oh, I hear you.
Apt is ... so good ... Especially compared to RPMs.

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