Re: newbie: apt-x11 only?

2001-02-20 Thread Colin Watson
Remy Indebetouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to get only xfree86 4.0 (out of woody, presumably), but
don't want to deal with all of woody updates - what's the easiest way?

i tried getting sources.list to point only to pool/../xfree, and such,
without success

i also tried loading all 'testing' into dselect but couldn't get it to
not update a lot of things, even with 'Directly requested' mode.

No, don't try to do that; XFree86 in woody depends on too much other
stuff, so you might as well just upgrade to woody if you were going to
install those packages. There are *unofficial* XFree86 4.0.2 packages
for potato instead: see
URL:http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/xf402_potato/.

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: newbie: apt-x11 only?

2001-02-20 Thread Harald Thingelstad

 I would like to get only xfree86 4.0 (out of woody, presumably), but
 don't want to deal with all of woody updates - what's the easiest way?

 i tried getting sources.list to point only to pool/../xfree, and such,
 without success

 i also tried loading all 'testing' into dselect but couldn't get it to
 not update a lot of things, even with 'Directly requested' mode.
 
 thanks for help!

You don't need to point to the pool entries directly. (Is it even possible?)
My sources.list looks like:

deb ftp://ftp.no.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.no.debian.org/debian-non-US potato non-US/main non-US/contrib 
non-US/non-free
deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main
deb ftp://ftp.no.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.no.debian.org/debian-non-US woody non-US/main non-US/contrib 
non-US/non-free
# deb   ftp://ftp.no.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
# deb   ftp://ftp.no.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable  non-US/main 
non-US/contrib non-US/non-free
deb ftp://security.debian.org/debian-security  potato/updates main contrib 
non-free

You see I use ximian (helix) GNOME.
The potato entries aren't really needed as I run woody (testing). I also use 
parts of unstable at times but those two lines are normally commented out.

I see you normally want to use potato (stable) but need parts of woody 
(testing). A wise choice for a debian rookie, perhaps. (Many of us like to take 
the newer software and minor trouble with woody, though.) 

What I would want to do:
Put the entries of woody (unstable) into your sources.list (but replace with 
your closest mirror).
Acting as root (sudo is fine), update your packet list in dselect (and 
apt-get). Pick select to see the updated packet list. Use the list to see which 
packets you want installed from woody. *Dont* use dselect to actually install 
the packages though, as this would upgrade your whole distribution. You might 
browse the list as your own (non-root) user if that makes you feel safer.
Use apt-get install to install the packages you need from woody. This will 
install (or upgrade) the packages you want to get installed, and also those 
packages they depend upon. If there are any doubts, it will ask if you want to 
do it or not.
For example, using sudo to make you act as root:
sudo apt-get install xserver-xfree86
Or, having logged in as root:
apt-get install xfree86-common

Hope this helps.
Harald



newbie: apt-x11 only?

2001-02-19 Thread Remy Indebetouw
I would like to get only xfree86 4.0 (out of woody, presumably), but
don't want to deal with all of woody updates - what's the easiest way?

i tried getting sources.list to point only to pool/../xfree, and such,
without success

i also tried loading all 'testing' into dselect but couldn't get it to
not update a lot of things, even with 'Directly requested' mode.

thanks for help!

MOTIVATING PROBLEM (in case someone has a direct solution):
X on ATI Rage LT Pro in an Inspiron 7000 1024x768
I've used steve hsieh's patched Mach64 (X3.3.6,
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~steveh/inspiron/) in the past, but it fails
with potato for some reason.
However, his suggested XF86Config works with the ati driver in X4.0
from redhat7.  I'd really rather use Debian than Redhat, but I also
want Xwindows.

thanks