Re: now i've done it (serious help now)

1997-12-16 Thread Benoit Goudreault-Emond

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> i get; 
> 
> _X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect:errho=2
> 
> what do i do to get into xwindows? 

Well, xf86config is not exactly the dream program to configure X.  I'd
install xserver-vga and xfnt-75 and use XF86Setup instead (it's a
graphical config, and yields much cleaner config files IMHO).  Try
reconfiguring, and try starting X again.

If you still can't do it, knowing what your video card is might help
us pinpoint the problem.

> also, i have booted into dos. running windows provides the blue screen: 
> Missing Vfat (or something)

Can't help here.  Best advice I've got: reinstall Windows.  That seems
to be the only way to solve Windows problem due to the lack of diagnostics
and system utilities for that operating environment.

> what am i supposed to do about x-windows? i think i will follow all the 
> suggestions i have had about partitioning, but would ust like to get int 
> o xwindows first if possible. also, what other experiences have you had 
> with other distributions such as redhat? 

For X, follow the above suggestions.

Be aware that if you repartition, you'll (obviously) have to redo the whole
thing (unless you manage not to touch the Linux parition).

As for other distribs, I've only used Slackware, and it was much more of
a pain than Debian.  But maybe you should ask that on newsgroups or other
lists rather than here ; understandably, we all think Debian is great. :)
(not that it isn't, of course)

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Re: now i've done it (serious help now)

1997-12-16 Thread Alex Yukhimets
> xstart

startx I presume.

> 
> i get; 
> 
> _X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect:errho=2
> 
> what do i do to get into xwindows? 

Obviously you server is not configured properly, starts and immediately
dies. That's why it is not possible to connect to it.
The only way to configure it more or less painlessly is to install
xserver-vga16 package (and the pckages it depend on, like xfnt75) and
run XF86Setup utility. Make sure you know the type and port of the mouse
you use, chipset of the card, monitor frequencies. If there is something
you would like to look up during configuration, don't abort it, press
Ctrl-ALT-F2 to get to console, Alt-F7 will bring you back.

Let me know how it went.

> also, i have booted into dos. running windows provides the blue screen: 
> Missing Vfat (or something)

You need vfat support to be either compiled into kernel or be available
as a module. If you are using "stock" kernel, you should also install
kernel-modules (or something like that) package to get vfat module
(among others) or recompile the kernel yourself with whatever support you
need.

> o xwindows first if possible. also, what other experiences have you had 
> with other distributions such as redhat? 

I guess you have to ask that on a different list :)

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Re: now i've done it (serious help now)

1997-12-16 Thread Alan Woo
okay, i've gotten much further now. 

i've seelected alll sots of options with dselect, and un xf86config, but 
now when i run

xstart

i get; 

_X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect:errho=2

what do i do to get into xwindows? 

also, i have booted into dos. running windows provides the blue screen: 
Missing Vfat (or something)

what am i supposed to do about x-windows? i think i will follow all the 
suggestions i have had about partitioning, but would ust like to get int 
o xwindows first if possible. also, what other experiences have you had 
with other distributions such as redhat? 

thankyou, 
alan W


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Re: now i've done it (serious help now)

1997-12-16 Thread Will Lowe
On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Mark W. Blunier wrote:

> > i have next to no experience with Unix. Now i installed debian, and
> > let's say my partitions are completely messed up, i don't know how the
> > file system works etc.
> 
> the filesystem, 1 for swap, then only use these two.  Why make things
> harder than you have to?  
This is pretty true.  It's not tough to move things around later,
assuming you've left some free space (unpartitioned) on the disk -- I have
a 2.1 gig drive,  and only about half of it's even partitioned at the
moment.

>  I need to read a book, but i seriously need help
The standard one is "Running Linux" by Matt Walsh,  from O'Reilly --
www.ora.com.  There's also a debian book out ... hit http://www.debian.org
for info.

> > it runs dselect, how do i get it to install x-windows etc. (i keep
> > getting the message: not a valid block) (i need SO much help).
This sounds like a filesystem problem to me,  but I'm not a filesystem
guru.

> > can't even boot to anything except linux using the boot floppy. How
> > would i create a partition that would be named C:\ using a FAT16 or
> > FAT32 file system so i could restore windows95? aghh!! 
> format /mbr
Yes,  the problem is that you must do this from within DOS,  or Win95 Dos
mode.  So you might have to make a dos boot floppy from your Win95
installation media.

> There are of course, many different ways to do this.  My suggestion is
> to use dos to format and partition your hard drive.  Make 3 or 4
> partitions.  With your size drive, space shouldn't be to much of a
> problem.  What I recomend,
> 
> ~1 Meg for dos/win 95 (bootable)
> ~1 Meg for Linux
> ~1 Meg for Linux/Dos, whatever
> ~32 Meg for Linux Swap
I'd assume Mr. Blunier meant 1 gig rather than 1 meg...

Good luck.


Will


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Re: now i've done it (serious help now)

1997-12-16 Thread Mark W. Blunier
On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Alan Woo wrote:

> AGH! okay all. i know this sounds terribly stupid, but as you all know,
> i have next to no experience with Unix. Now i installed debian, and
> let's say my partitions are completely messed up, i don't know how the
> file system works etc.

Starting off, unless know why you want more that two partions, 1 for
the filesystem, 1 for swap, then only use these two.  Why make things
harder than you have to?  


 I need to read a book, but i seriously need help
> to get out of this one. Okay, first of all, through the setup, what
> exactly do i specify for the cdrom.

First, what kind of cdrom do you have? Ide, scsi, on your soundcard,
etc.  Read the howto's then ask questions.  But remember, when you
ask a question, it helps a lot to give some basic info as to why you
have a problem.  For instance, my cdrom is a Sun-moon-star.  It is
not mentioned in the howto's, but by saying what the name is, and
what the name of the dos drivers are, someone could tell that it is
probably sbpcd compatable.  Likewise, when you say your partitions
are messed up, how are they messed up?

 Next, when i'm into my account and
> it runs dselect, how do i get it to install x-windows etc. (i keep
> getting the message: not a valid block) (i need SO much help).

When you you get this message?  When you start it up, when you are
selecting the source, when you are selecting the packages, when you
are installing packages?

 Now, i
> can't even boot to anything except linux using the boot floppy. How
> would i create a partition that would be named C:\ using a FAT16 or
> FAT32 file system so i could restore windows95? aghh!! 

If I remember correctly,
format /mbr

> 
> my intentions are: 
> -Get back valid partitions, 3.1 gig hdd
> 
> -Run windows 95 (i have a product restore that copies only to a drive
> labeled C:\)

There are of course, many different ways to do this.  My suggestion is
to use dos to format and partition your hard drive.  Make 3 or 4
partitions.  With your size drive, space shouldn't be to much of a
problem.  What I recomend,

~1 Meg for dos/win 95 (bootable)
~1 Meg for Linux
~1 Meg for Linux/Dos, whatever
~32 Meg for Linux Swap

Create the partitions during Debian installation.
Do not make Debian bootable from the hard drive, do not install Lilo or
boot blocks.  Make a boot disk.

Then, format the master boot record (mbr) to boot dos on the dos
partition, and reinstall win 95.  Use the boot disk to boot to Linux,
or using loadlin after booting to dos.

> -Run debian on another different partition with the x-windows interface,
> and the others possibly
> 
> I know this list is so helpful, so somebody please help... 
> sorry for all the trouble, once i read up, i'll be able to answer my own
> questions. 

The order that I recommend on getting your system going, assuming you
have Debian on a cdrom is:

1) install basic system (from the disks)
2) install the default system (from dselect)
3) install magicfilter (from dselect)
  (Then delete /etc/printcap and run magicfilterconfig)
  Now you can read and print out howtos easily.
4) Start installing and setting up ppp and fetchmail
5) set up X


> thanks a lot, i'm on my old 286 right now

Hope that helps.
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now i've done it (serious help now)

1997-12-16 Thread Alan Woo
AGH! okay all. i know this sounds terribly stupid, but as you all know,
i have next to no experience with Unix. Now i installed debian, and
let's say my partitions are completely messed up, i don't know how the
file system works etc. I need to read a book, but i seriously need help
to get out of this one. Okay, first of all, through the setup, what
exactly do i specify for the cdrom. Next, when i'm into my account and
it runs dselect, how do i get it to install x-windows etc. (i keep
getting the message: not a valid block) (i need SO much help). Now, i
can't even boot to anything except linux using the boot floppy. How
would i create a partition that would be named C:\ using a FAT16 or
FAT32 file system so i could restore windows95? aghh!! 

my intentions are: 
-Get back valid partitions, 3.1 gig hdd

-Run windows 95 (i have a product restore that copies only to a drive
labeled C:\)

-Run debian on another different partition with the x-windows interface,
and the others possibly

I know this list is so helpful, so somebody please help... 
sorry for all the trouble, once i read up, i'll be able to answer my own
questions. 
thanks a lot, i'm on my old 286 right now


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