Re: ntp daemon.
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:22:57 -0500, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org Is ntp daemon up and running? /etc/init.d/ntp status Also, check you logs: su - -c grep ntp /var/log/syslog I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting ntpdate is another/different program. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jfc14j$rsl$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: ntp daemon.
thats true, however ntpdate does seems to work even after ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting. Server does sync times correctly. server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:22:57 -0500, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org Is ntp daemon up and running? /etc/init.d/ntp status Also, check you logs: su - -c grep ntp /var/log/syslog I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting ntpdate is another/different program. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jfc14j$rsl$1...@dough.gmane.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/canppwqstnsodoawqqvzbdhq2ppqktjnwlfocybj1wqunums...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:30:58 +0500, Syed Hasan Atizaz wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 12:22:57 -0500, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org Is ntp daemon up and running? /etc/init.d/ntp status Also, check you logs: su - -c grep ntp /var/log/syslog I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting ntpdate is another/different program. thats true, however ntpdate does seems to work even after ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting. Server does sync times correctly. server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org I can't tell about ntpdate, I don't have it installed, I use the full ntp package and I run the service as daemon. If you need advice for setting up ntpdate read /usr/share/doc/ntpdate/README.Debian. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jfcmam$rsl$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: ntp daemon.
Okay, at first we need to ntp.conf. Please run cat /etc/ntp.conf and paste here the results. Check your firewall with 'iptables -L' command and also run this 'netstat -tulpn|grep ntp'. Please, paste here every command output. Regards, Balint On 19/01/2012 02:53, Stefan Monnier wrote: == server1.shellva .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 mail.honeycomb. .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 thor.netservice .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp.sunflower.c .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp2.Rescomp.Be .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 voxl-nyc-15.ser .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 xen1.rack911.co .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp1.Housing.Be .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 I do need that port 123 open on the router ? The important thing to know is that NTP uses UDP rather than TCP. E.g. machines from my university cannot use remote NTP servers because all UDP traffic is filtered away (they do have local NTP server which get synchronized with remote server, of course). So you need outbound UDP port 123 open (inbound is only if you want other machines to be able to synchronize with yours). Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f17cda9.8080...@gmail.com
ntp daemon.
I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting do not know how to fix it - any ideas ?? thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAK3ER7t=eNBP7C3vrU1p5woxgKFE2=j_dgfwofp-axwywij...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On 18/01/2012 17:22, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting do not know how to fix it - any ideas ?? thanks try with these: server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst server 1.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst server 2.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst server 3.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f1702ad.6010...@gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On 18/01/2012 17:22, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting do not know how to fix it - any ideas ?? thanks oh, and the answer your question: myhost:~# *ntpdate* 18 Jan 17:35:01 ntpdate[1400]: no servers can be used, exiting myhost:~# *ntpdate 0.us.pool.ntp.org* 18 Jan 17:35:14 ntpdate[1401]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting the ntpdate is required an argument. ntpdate server see in man ntpdate
Re: ntp daemon.
thanks for the reply --- I just tried this server and get the following error: ntpdate 0.debian.pool.ntp.org 18 Jan 13:31:23 ntpdate[27613]: no server suitable for synchronization found thanks On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Balint Szigeti balint.s...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/01/2012 17:22, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting do not know how to fix it - any ideas ?? thanks oh, and the answer your question: myhost:~# ntpdate 18 Jan 17:35:01 ntpdate[1400]: no servers can be used, exiting myhost:~# ntpdate 0.us.pool.ntp.org 18 Jan 17:35:14 ntpdate[1401]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting the ntpdate is required an argument. ntpdate server see in man ntpdate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cak3er7u028bbbdyjzvfhjww3x519l_5id68rfnk_nxi32-y...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On 18/01/2012 18:10, Joey L wrote: no server suitable for synchronization found check your firewall. the ntp serevice uses 123 port and check this ntpq -p -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f170cae.4000...@gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On 18/01/2012 18:10, Joey L wrote: thanks for the reply --- I just tried this server and get the following error: ntpdate 0.debian.pool.ntp.org 18 Jan 13:31:23 ntpdate[27613]: no server suitable for synchronization found thanks On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Balint Szigetibalint.s...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/01/2012 17:22, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting do not know how to fix it - any ideas ?? thanks oh, and the answer your question: myhost:~# ntpdate 18 Jan 17:35:01 ntpdate[1400]: no servers can be used, exiting myhost:~# ntpdate 0.us.pool.ntp.org 18 Jan 17:35:14 ntpdate[1401]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting the ntpdate is required an argument. ntpdateserver see in man ntpdate and you should try these: http://www.pool.ntp.org/zone/europe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f170d4f.5010...@gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
I got this : ntpq -p ntpq: read: Connection refused do i have to open special ports on the router for ntp to work ? thanks mhj On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Balint Szigeti balint.s...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/01/2012 18:10, Joey L wrote: thanks for the reply --- I just tried this server and get the following error: ntpdate 0.debian.pool.ntp.org 18 Jan 13:31:23 ntpdate[27613]: no server suitable for synchronization found thanks On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Balint Szigetibalint.s...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/01/2012 17:22, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting do not know how to fix it - any ideas ?? thanks oh, and the answer your question: myhost:~# ntpdate 18 Jan 17:35:01 ntpdate[1400]: no servers can be used, exiting myhost:~# ntpdate 0.us.pool.ntp.org 18 Jan 17:35:14 ntpdate[1401]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting the ntpdate is required an argument. ntpdateserver see in man ntpdate and you should try these: http://www.pool.ntp.org/zone/europe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f170d4f.5010...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cak3er7vonwatvuetqqqrjdiq34nhx2zm6skd2jdjknkdaf4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:22:57PM -0500, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting ntpdate should not / cannot be used while ntpd is running. Make sure that ntpd is running and then run: ntpq -p That'll show you what ntp servers you are communicating with. You do not need to open any inbound ports on your firewall in order for ntpd to run. Also, the default debian ntp.conf file works if you are just trying to keep your own time accurate, and not trying to act as an ntp server for other machines. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120118183857.gb1...@aurora.owens.net
Re: ntp daemon.
On 18/01/2012 18:25, Joey L wrote: ntpq: read: Connection refused hm... interesting... how looks your ntp.conf? Is ntpd running? --- ps aux|grep ntp ntp 1231 0.0 0.5 38472 2204 ?Ss 18:18 0:00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -g -u 104:106 --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f1712b8.9090...@gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On 01/18/2012 10:38 AM, Rob Owens wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:22:57PM -0500, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting ntpdate should not / cannot be used while ntpd is running. Make sure that ntpd is running and then run: ntpq -p That'll show you what ntp servers you are communicating with. You do not need to open any inbound ports on your firewall in order for ntpd to run. Also, the default debian ntp.conf file works if you are just trying to keep your own time accurate, and not trying to act as an ntp server for other machines. -Rob make sure you have udp on port 23 open for inbound and outbound on iptables. You can run ntpdate -u YOURTIMESERVEROFCHOICE Or you could also run ntpd -qg Or if your ntpd is already running stop it then try again and if all works verify your settings in the conf file. Reboot try one last time and should be squared away. Also if you want sysclock and hwclock to match make sure your hwclock is set to UTC or localtime depending on your config. Then if hwclock is still off run hwclock --systohc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f1725e1.1070...@gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On 01/18/2012 10:38 AM, Rob Owens wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:22:57PM -0500, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting ntpdate should not / cannot be used while ntpd is running. Make sure that ntpd is running and then run: ntpq -p That'll show you what ntp servers you are communicating with. You do not need to open any inbound ports on your firewall in order for ntpd to run. Also, the default debian ntp.conf file works if you are just trying to keep your own time accurate, and not trying to act as an ntp server for other machines. -Rob Correction I mean port 123 in my last email NOT 23. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f17260a.6070...@gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On 1/18/2012 11:22 AM, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting ntpdate doesn't use ntp.conf. It is a completely unrelated command. 'man ntpdate' Sample usage: $ ntpdate -q 0.us.pool.ntp.org To see what ntpd is doing: $ grep ntpd /var/log/syslog -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f172bed.2050...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On 18/01/2012 20:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 1/18/2012 11:22 AM, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting ntpdate doesn't use ntp.conf. It is a completely unrelated command. 'man ntpdate' Sample usage: $ ntpdate -q 0.us.pool.ntp.org To see what ntpd is doing: $ grep ntpd /var/log/syslog but he has problem with ntp, too. okay you're right the ntpdate doesn't use ntp.conf. probably the fault is same in two case -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f1733cb.6080...@gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
i am just trying to keep my own time and get the real time from internet servers, here is the output: root@rider:~# ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == server1.shellva .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 mail.honeycomb. .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 thor.netservice .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp.sunflower.c .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp2.Rescomp.Be .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 voxl-nyc-15.ser .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 xen1.rack911.co .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp1.Housing.Be .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 I do need that port 123 open on the router ? thanks On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:22:57PM -0500, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting ntpdate should not / cannot be used while ntpd is running. Make sure that ntpd is running and then run: ntpq -p That'll show you what ntp servers you are communicating with. You do not need to open any inbound ports on your firewall in order for ntpd to run. Also, the default debian ntp.conf file works if you are just trying to keep your own time accurate, and not trying to act as an ntp server for other machines. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120118183857.gb1...@aurora.owens.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cak3er7tg2-dj0moo-pa+9ucexeykui4ij0haxewnsmwufcw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
i stopped ntpd and restarted - here is output: Jan 18 16:53:32 rider ntpd[1684]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 Jan 18 16:53:37 rider ntpd[9133]: ntpd 4.2.6p2@1.2194-o Sun Oct 17 13:45:13 UTC 2010 (1) Jan 18 16:53:37 rider ntpd[9134]: proto: precision = 1.676 usec Jan 18 16:53:37 rider ntpd[9134]: Listen and drop on 0 v4wildcard 0.0.0.0 UDP 123 Jan 18 16:53:37 rider ntpd[9134]: Listen and drop on 1 v6wildcard :: UDP 123 Jan 18 16:53:37 rider ntpd[9134]: Listen normally on 2 lo 127.0.0.1 UDP 123 Jan 18 16:53:37 rider ntpd[9134]: Listen normally on 3 eth0 192.168.2.22 UDP 123 Jan 18 16:53:37 rider ntpd[9134]: Listen normally on 4 lo ::1 UDP 123 Jan 18 16:53:37 rider ntpd[9134]: Listen normally on 5 eth0 fe80::2e0:81ff:fe76:8bc2 UDP 123 Jan 18 16:54:50 rider ntpd[9134]: ntpd exiting on signal 15 Jan 18 16:55:08 rider ntpd[9175]: ntpd 4.2.6p2@1.2194-o Sun Oct 17 13:45:13 UTC 2010 (1) Jan 18 16:55:08 rider ntpd[9176]: proto: precision = 1.676 usec Jan 18 16:55:08 rider ntpd[9176]: Listen and drop on 0 v4wildcard 0.0.0.0 UDP 123 Jan 18 16:55:08 rider ntpd[9176]: Listen and drop on 1 v6wildcard :: UDP 123 Jan 18 16:55:08 rider ntpd[9176]: Listen normally on 2 lo 127.0.0.1 UDP 123 Jan 18 16:55:08 rider ntpd[9176]: Listen normally on 3 eth0 192.168.44.22 UDP 123 Jan 18 16:55:08 rider ntpd[9176]: Listen normally on 4 lo ::1 UDP 123 Jan 18 16:55:08 rider ntpd[9176]: Listen normally on 5 eth0 fe80::2e0:81ff:fe76:8bc2 UDP 123 root@rider:~# ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == 199.4.29.166.INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 name1.glorb.com .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 173.244.211.10. .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 clock.xmission. .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 ntp.sunflower.c .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 ntp.cox.net .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 guinness.mcguyv .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 barricade.rack9 .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 all looks normal. mjh On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Balint Szigeti balint.s...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/01/2012 20:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 1/18/2012 11:22 AM, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting ntpdate doesn't use ntp.conf. It is a completely unrelated command. 'man ntpdate' Sample usage: $ ntpdate -q 0.us.pool.ntp.org To see what ntpd is doing: $ grep ntpd /var/log/syslog but he has problem with ntp, too. okay you're right the ntpdate doesn't use ntp.conf. probably the fault is same in two case -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f1733cb.6080...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cak3er7set4pji9j91qwdvh-cucfhcr_fcbtbcd1rne1wxyq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
you don't have to open port on your router because if you reach internet (without firewall on your system) every ntp packet to get to the right place. now should run stop ntpd ntpdate something server and check ntpq -p and start ntpd again. Now, it has to work. On 18/01/2012 21:27, Joey L wrote: i am just trying to keep my own time and get the real time from internet servers, here is the output: root@rider:~# ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == server1.shellva .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 mail.honeycomb. .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 thor.netservice .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp.sunflower.c .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp2.Rescomp.Be .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 voxl-nyc-15.ser .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 xen1.rack911.co .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp1.Housing.Be .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 I do need that port 123 open on the router ? thanks On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Rob Owensrow...@ptd.net wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:22:57PM -0500, Joey L wrote: I have installed ntp server on my debian box. I am trying to sync with a public external time server. I have found a couple on the internet - but none seem to want to sync with me or my ntp daemon does not want to do it. I have entered the following in my /etc/ntp.conf file: server 0.us.pool.ntp.org server 1.us.pool.ntp.org server 2.us.pool.ntp.org server 3.us.pool.ntp.org I ran ntpdate and I get this error message - 18 Jan 12:43:23 ntpdate[26430]: no servers can be used, exiting ntpdate should not / cannot be used while ntpd is running. Make sure that ntpd is running and then run: ntpq -p That'll show you what ntp servers you are communicating with. You do not need to open any inbound ports on your firewall in order for ntpd to run. Also, the default debian ntp.conf file works if you are just trying to keep your own time accurate, and not trying to act as an ntp server for other machines. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120118183857.gb1...@aurora.owens.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f173dc1.70...@gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On 1/18/2012 3:34 PM, Joey L wrote: remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == 199.4.29.166.INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 name1.glorb.com .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 173.244.211.10. .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 clock.xmission. .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 ntp.sunflower.c .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 ntp.cox.net .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 guinness.mcguyv .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 barricade.rack9 .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 all looks normal. That's because you don't know what normal should look like: remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == +navobs1.wustl.e .GPS.1 u 104 128 377 48.924 -0.745 3.540 *ntp.okstate.edu .USNO. 1 u 88 128 377 45.726 -0.294 1.259 +tick.uh.edu .GPS.1 u 43 128 377 45.574 -0.527 5.165 See all of your columns with zeros? See mine don't have zeros, but actual data? It seems your ntpd is failing to contact the remote ntp servers. While watching iftop, stop and start ntpd. You should see connections going out to the remote ntp servers. We need to confirm that. Also, please paste your /etc/ntp.conf file. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f173fc4.9040...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 03:55:16PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 1/18/2012 3:34 PM, Joey L wrote: remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == 199.4.29.166.INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 name1.glorb.com .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 173.244.211.10. .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 clock.xmission. .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 ntp.sunflower.c .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 ntp.cox.net .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 guinness.mcguyv .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 barricade.rack9 .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 all looks normal. That's because you don't know what normal should look like: remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == +navobs1.wustl.e .GPS.1 u 104 128 377 48.924 -0.745 3.540 *ntp.okstate.edu .USNO. 1 u 88 128 377 45.726 -0.294 1.259 +tick.uh.edu .GPS.1 u 43 128 377 45.574 -0.527 5.165 See all of your columns with zeros? See mine don't have zeros, but actual data? It seems your ntpd is failing to contact the remote ntp servers. While watching iftop, stop and start ntpd. You should see connections going out to the remote ntp servers. We need to confirm that. It can take a few minutes of ntpd running before you get the + and * marks in the remote column, like Stan has. I don't remember exactly what they mean, but it's something along the lines of your ntp daemon having established a link with those remote ntp servers. I'm not sure if that accounts for all the zeros in the other columns, though. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120118221903.gc2...@aurora.owens.net
Re: ntp daemon.
now should run stop ntpd ntpdate something server and check ntpq -p and start ntpd again. ntpdate 0.debian.pool.ntp.org 18 Jan 19:16:04 ntpdate[12464]: no server suitable for synchronization found root@rider:~# ntpq -p ntpq: read: Connection refused nothing... root@rider:~# ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == support.rccfo.c .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 ntp2.Rescomp.Be .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 name3.glorb.com .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 ntp1.Rescomp.Be .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 tuppy.intrepidh .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 private.ssl119. .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 cheezum.mattnor .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 framboise.hoopy .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAK3ER7tbEÍ2+t-bms2h8hghl+6xpydwplw+tqstroubxy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
On 01/18/2012 03:56 PM, Joey L wrote: now should run stop ntpd ntpdatesomething server and check ntpq -p and start ntpd again. ntpdate 0.debian.pool.ntp.org 18 Jan 19:16:04 ntpdate[12464]: no server suitable for synchronization found root@rider:~# ntpq -p ntpq: read: Connection refused nothing... root@rider:~# ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == support.rccfo.c .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 ntp2.Rescomp.Be .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 name3.glorb.com .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 ntp1.Rescomp.Be .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 tuppy.intrepidh .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 private.ssl119. .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 cheezum.mattnor .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 framboise.hoopy .INIT. 16 u- 6400.0000.000 0.000 I replied to the list earlier what is a working method for me on Sid and Stable. ntpdate -u TIMESERVER ntpd -qg refer to my previous post for more info. Especially if iptables is set to drop/reject all by default -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f177228.9020...@gmail.com
Re: ntp daemon.
== server1.shellva .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 mail.honeycomb. .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 thor.netservice .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp.sunflower.c .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp2.Rescomp.Be .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 voxl-nyc-15.ser .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 xen1.rack911.co .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 ntp1.Housing.Be .INIT. 16 u- 102400.0000.000 0.000 I do need that port 123 open on the router ? The important thing to know is that NTP uses UDP rather than TCP. E.g. machines from my university cannot use remote NTP servers because all UDP traffic is filtered away (they do have local NTP server which get synchronized with remote server, of course). So you need outbound UDP port 123 open (inbound is only if you want other machines to be able to synchronize with yours). Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jwvr4ywpg35.fsf-monnier+gmane.linux.debian.u...@gnu.org
[Solved] Ntp daemon logs (ipv6)
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:36:44 +, Camaleón wrote: Hello, Running Lenny, I am seeing the following ntp logs under daemon.log: *** Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3841]: ntpd 4.2@1.1520-o Mon May 11 20:13:01 UTC 2009 (1) Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: precision = 1.000 usec Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: Listening on interface #0 wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123 Disabled Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: Listening on interface #1 wildcard, ::#123 Disabled (...) These entries are being repeated every 5 minutes or so, flooding the dameon.log file. It seems ntpd tries to bind to the ipv6 address of the bond0 interface and fails. Any clue on this? :-? The error was due to a lack of Internet connection (no dsl for a short period of time). As soon as the line was back, the error is gone. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Ntp daemon logs (ipv6)
Hello, Running Lenny, I am seeing the following ntp logs under daemon.log: *** Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3841]: ntpd 4.2@1.1520-o Mon May 11 20:13:01 UTC 2009 (1) Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: precision = 1.000 usec Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: Listening on interface #0 wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123 Disabled Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: Listening on interface #1 wildcard, ::#123 Disabled Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: bind() fd 18, family 10, port 123, scope 4, addr fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0x11 fails: Cannot assign requested address Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: unable to create socket on bond0 (2) for fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba#123 Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: failed to initialize interface for address fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: Listening on interface #3 lo, ::1#123 Enabled Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: Listening on interface #4 lo, 127.0.0.1#123 Enabled Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: Listening on interface #5 bond0, 172.16.0.11#123 Enabled Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: kernel time sync status 0040 Dec 1 07:33:36 serv2 ntpd[3842]: frequency initialized 28.424 PPM from /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift Dec 1 07:36:16 serv2 ntpd[3949]: signal_no_reset: signal 17 had flags 400 Dec 1 07:36:17 serv2 ntpd[3842]: bind() fd 21, family 10, port 123, scope 4, addr fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0x11 fails: Cannot assign requested address Dec 1 07:36:17 serv2 ntpd[3842]: unable to create socket on bond0 (6) for fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba#123 Dec 1 07:36:17 serv2 ntpd[3842]: failed to initialize interface for address fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba Dec 1 07:38:58 serv2 ntpd_initres[3949]: signal_no_reset: signal 14 had flags 400 Dec 1 07:41:17 serv2 ntpd[3842]: bind() fd 21, family 10, port 123, scope 4, addr fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0x11 fails: Cannot assign requested address Dec 1 07:41:17 serv2 ntpd[3842]: unable to create socket on bond0 (7) for fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba#123 Dec 1 07:41:17 serv2 ntpd[3842]: failed to initialize interface for address fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba Dec 1 07:46:17 serv2 ntpd[3842]: bind() fd 21, family 10, port 123, scope 4, addr fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba, in6_is_addr_multicast=0 flags=0x11 fails: Cannot assign requested address Dec 1 07:46:17 serv2 ntpd[3842]: unable to create socket on bond0 (8) for fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba#123 Dec 1 07:46:17 serv2 ntpd[3842]: failed to initialize interface for address fe80::230:48ff:fe76:c1ba *** These entries are being repeated every 5 minutes or so, flooding the dameon.log file. It seems ntpd tries to bind to the ipv6 address of the bond0 interface and fails. Any clue on this? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
NTP Daemon
I'm looking for a simple NTP client daemon to synchronize the time on my debian server. I'm testing openntpd but I've this error message: adjtime failed: Invalid argument Could someone help me or suggest something? Thanks -- Michele Della Marina [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NTP Daemon
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 12:21:20PM +0200, Michele Della Marina wrote: I'm looking for a simple NTP client daemon to synchronize the time on my debian server. I'm testing openntpd but I've this error message: adjtime failed: Invalid argument Could someone help me or suggest something? Thanks aptitude install ntp-server and off you go. I know it's called a server and you want a client but there's not really much difference with NTP and the default configuration should be exactly what you want. -- CJ van den Berg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: NTP Daemon
Am Freitag, 29. September 2006 12:33 schrieb CJ van den Berg: On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 12:21:20PM +0200, Michele Della Marina wrote: I'm looking for a simple NTP client daemon to synchronize the time on my debian server. I'm testing openntpd but I've this error message: adjtime failed: Invalid argument Could someone help me or suggest something? Thanks aptitude install ntp-server and off you go. I know it's called a server and you want a client but there's not really much difference with NTP and the default configuration should be exactly what you want. Maybe you might install ntpdate in addition. I think this makes the adjustment of the clock quicker once the ntp-'server' has got the time. Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NTP Daemon
I'm looking for a simple NTP client daemon to synchronize the time on my debian server. I'm testing openntpd but I've this error message: adjtime failed: Invalid argument Could someone help me or suggest something? Thanks aptitude install ntp-server and off you go. I believe it's now called just `ntp'. I know it's called a server and you want a client but there's not really much difference with NTP and the default configuration should be exactly what you want. Indeed. Incidentally `openntpd' is also both a client and a server. Openntpd is OK but it seems that it was developped for a kernel whose time-tracking facilities are not as sophisticated as Linux's (at least they don't use them). Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NTP Daemon
Stefan Monnier wrote: I'm looking for a simple NTP client daemon to synchronize the time on my debian server. I'm testing openntpd but I've this error message: adjtime failed: Invalid argument Could someone help me or suggest something? Thanks aptitude install ntp-server and off you go. I believe it's now called just `ntp'. I know it's called a server and you want a client but there's not really much difference with NTP and the default configuration should be exactly what you want. Indeed. Incidentally `openntpd' is also both a client and a server. Openntpd is OK but it seems that it was developped for a kernel whose time-tracking facilities are not as sophisticated as Linux's (at least they don't use them). did the following on my recent Sarge install, works like a charm: apt-get install ntp ntp-doc ntp-server ntpdate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NTP Daemon
Michele Della Marina wrote: I'm looking for a simple NTP client daemon to synchronize the time on my debian server. I'm testing openntpd but I've this error message: adjtime failed: Invalid argument Could someone help me or suggest something? Thanks I have been using chrony for quite a while and am happy with it. It has the advantage that, for boxes with an intermittant internet connection, it can track the rate of time differential between the local system and the ntp server and adjust the time incrementally while the box is not online, thus keeping the local time more accurate at such times. :~$ apt-cache show chrony Package: chrony Priority: extra Section: admin Installed-Size: 796 Maintainer: John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Version: 1.20-8 Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libncurses5 (= 5.4-1), libreadline4 (= 4.3-1) Conflicts: ntp, ntpsimple, ntprefclock Filename: pool/main/c/chrony/chrony_1.20-8_i386.deb Size: 323020 MD5sum: 715ca8920bbf1c55e13730ed6a7ee6d4 SHA1: 26ac59b4ef03ce024564df5e82d283f76ab56bbb SHA256: 94a3a50c1d50a7dfea7274a7a78803946a602ef2132cfadcc220cfbd06e24dca Description: Sets your computer's clock from time servers on the Net It consists of a pair of programs : `chronyd'. This is a daemon which runs in background on the system. It obtains measurements (e.g. via the network) of the system's offset relative to other systems, and adjusts the system time accordingly. For isolated systems, the user can periodically enter the correct time by hand (using `chronyc'). In either case, `chronyd' determines the rate at which the computer gains or loses time, and compensates for this. Chronyd implements the NTP protocol and can act as either a client or a server. `chronyc'. This is a command-line driven control and monitoring program. An administrator can use this to fine-tune various parameters within the daemon, add or delete servers etc whilst the daemon is running. -- Marc Shapiro No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What?! Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here. Boom. Sooner or later ... boom! - Susan Ivanova: B5 - Grail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NTP Daemon
On Sep 29, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: I'm looking for a simple NTP client daemon to synchronize the time on my debian server. I'm testing openntpd but I've this error message: adjtime failed: Invalid argument Could someone help me or suggest something? Thanks aptitude install ntp-server and off you go. I believe it's now called just `ntp'. In etch/testing, yes, it's just ntp. In sarge/stable, there are a confusing array of ntp* packages. In etch I recommend just ntp. Do not install ntpdate with ntp in etch unless you really know what you're doing. The functionality that used to be offered by ntpdate[*] has been subsumed into the ntp package by adding the -g option to the ntpd daemon. Adding ntpdate on top will just confuse things in obscure ways. For sarge, I recommend installing both ntpdate and ntp-simple. The ntpdate package will do a one-time adjustment at bootup, and the ntp-simple package (which depends on the ntp-server package which has the real meat) will keep the clock in sync on a long-term basis after bootup. Either setup should just work right out of the box[**]. In both cases, it should be able to cope well with intermittent internet connectivity. If you want to know more about the details, and there are *lots* of fascinating details, add the ntp-doc package. Enjoy! Rick [*] the ntpdate program (and the -g option to etch's ntpd daemon) does a one-time adjustment of the system clock, usually at system startup --- that works regardless of how far off the system clock is. This may possibly be needed due to an extended internet outage or power failure or a dying cmos battery. [**] If you're interested in keeping your system clock synced with sub-millisecond accuracy, you'll need to tune the configuration file in /etc/ntp.conf. Most people don't care, and can get by just fine with the default configuration. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]