Re: o/t ipod

2011-01-11 Thread Sean Keane
Sharepod

Free application to transfer music and video files from an iPod/iPod Touch/
iPhone to a PC.

Try running it in wine, or use a VM.




On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 09:17, Thomas H. George li...@tomgeorge.info wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 04:27:16PM +0100, Klistvud wrote:
  Dne, 27. 12. 2010 18:43:06 je Camaleón napisal(a):
 
  rant_and_malicious mode on
  I still fail to see what people find exciting in Apple devices.
  Yes, they
  look nice but they're also even more closed than any MS product :-)
  /rant_and_malicious mode off
 
  It must be their price. In our profit-centered culture, anything
  overly expensive seems to instantly achieve a magical aura and a
  high perceived value, be it a rolex, a ferrari, or a
  high-maintenance lady.
 
 Yes, but I must give the devil his due.  While I have no intention of
 using the gadget as an mp3 player - my Sundisk Sansa plays both mp3 and
 ogg - what the designers have crammed into this little package is truly
 impressive.  Wi-Fi, send and receive email, camera with zoom and the
 pictures can be emailed to my computer (my cell phone charges for that),
 motion and position sensors (the Star Walk app shifts the view of the
 night sky as you point the device at different stars), etc.

 If it had been my money I would have bought an Android device but I
 can't look this gift horse in the mouth.

 Tom George
 
 


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Re: o/t ipod

2011-01-07 Thread Thomas H. George
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 04:27:16PM +0100, Klistvud wrote:
 Dne, 27. 12. 2010 18:43:06 je Camaleón napisal(a):
 
 rant_and_malicious mode on
 I still fail to see what people find exciting in Apple devices.
 Yes, they
 look nice but they're also even more closed than any MS product :-)
 /rant_and_malicious mode off
 
 It must be their price. In our profit-centered culture, anything
 overly expensive seems to instantly achieve a magical aura and a
 high perceived value, be it a rolex, a ferrari, or a
 high-maintenance lady.
 
Yes, but I must give the devil his due.  While I have no intention of
using the gadget as an mp3 player - my Sundisk Sansa plays both mp3 and
ogg - what the designers have crammed into this little package is truly
impressive.  Wi-Fi, send and receive email, camera with zoom and the
pictures can be emailed to my computer (my cell phone charges for that),
motion and position sensors (the Star Walk app shifts the view of the
night sky as you point the device at different stars), etc.

If it had been my money I would have bought an Android device but I
can't look this gift horse in the mouth.

Tom George
 
 


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Re: o/t ipod

2011-01-06 Thread Pablo

Sorry if I am too late.
I once tried to connect a friend´s ipod to rhythmbox on Debian Lenny.

The behavior was really buggy. I managed to download only some of the 
songs to the computer.
And after unmounting, the ipod was showing as empty. Even though when 
remounted to the computer, rhythmbox was showing all music library.


I didn´t manage to restore the ipod to its original state but then I was 
told that with some windows software, the ipod recovered, showing the 
music library, and without any data loss.


I would be careful...

On 29/12/2010 9:00 a.m., shawn wilson wrote:

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, shawn wilsonag4ve...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Dec 26, 2010 7:57 AM, Ted Wagert...@trufflesdad.plus.com  wrote:

My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...



IIRC, there is no real good answer for linux. I think rythmbox has some
capabilities (that can be enabled or configured). You could also jailbreak
it and just scp stuff over (though you might need to hack around with plist
xml files). Itunes on windows is an option (though I'm not sure how to
handle account security or drm issues here). Also, if you go that route,
you're not really going to be able to keep your music synced up. If your
computer can handle it, you might research into running itunes inside of a
windows virtual box session.


fyi, i was wrong - there is a 'real good answer for linux'. i just had
a friend with an iphone plug into a straight ubuntu 10.10 computer
with rythmbox and it asked if i wanted to open it with rythmbox and we
uploaded a song. i think the device had to rebuild the song library
after because it took a minute to load up the player, but nothing was
lost and it was really only a minute or so for 15 gigs of music.




Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-28 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 27. 12. 2010 18:43:06 je Camaleón napisal(a):


rant_and_malicious mode on
I still fail to see what people find exciting in Apple devices. Yes,  
they

look nice but they're also even more closed than any MS product :-)
/rant_and_malicious mode off


It must be their price. In our profit-centered culture, anything overly  
expensive seems to instantly achieve a magical aura and a high  
perceived value, be it a rolex, a ferrari, or a high-maintenance lady.


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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-28 Thread shawn wilson
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Dec 26, 2010 7:57 AM, Ted Wager t...@trufflesdad.plus.com wrote:

 My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
 transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
 machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...



 IIRC, there is no real good answer for linux. I think rythmbox has some
 capabilities (that can be enabled or configured). You could also jailbreak
 it and just scp stuff over (though you might need to hack around with plist
 xml files). Itunes on windows is an option (though I'm not sure how to
 handle account security or drm issues here). Also, if you go that route,
 you're not really going to be able to keep your music synced up. If your
 computer can handle it, you might research into running itunes inside of a
 windows virtual box session.


fyi, i was wrong - there is a 'real good answer for linux'. i just had
a friend with an iphone plug into a straight ubuntu 10.10 computer
with rythmbox and it asked if i wanted to open it with rythmbox and we
uploaded a song. i think the device had to rebuild the song library
after because it took a minute to load up the player, but nothing was
lost and it was really only a minute or so for 15 gigs of music.


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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-27 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 06:32:34 -0600, Ted Wager wrote:

 My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
 transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
 machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...

Beside all the good advice you got, you may also find interesthing this 
wiki page:

http://wiki.debian.org/iPhone

rant_and_malicious mode on
I still fail to see what people find exciting in Apple devices. Yes, they 
look nice but they're also even more closed than any MS product :-)
/rant_and_malicious mode off

Greetings,

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o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread Ted Wager
My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can 
transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my 
machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...


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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread Peter Beck
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 06:32 -0600, Ted Wager wrote:
 My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can 
 transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my 
 machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...

on windows it's not possible to attach the device with itunes on
different computers without loosing all files. (I think there are 3rd
party tools for that, but no idea how they are called)
I have seen Ubuntu with Rhythmbox working out of the box without loosing
all songs - just attach and copy the files to the disk.
Not sure on debian, afaik it did not work flawlessy on Lenny, but i
think it could work out of the box with Squeeze. There is a plugin on
Squeeze's Rhythmbox - Portable Players iPod.

If it does not work - maybe these links are useful: 
http://wiki.debian.org/iPod
http://wiki.debian.org/iPhone

Regards
Peter







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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread shawn wilson
On Dec 26, 2010 7:57 AM, Ted Wager t...@trufflesdad.plus.com wrote:

 My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
 transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
 machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...



IIRC, there is no real good answer for linux. I think rythmbox has some
capabilities (that can be enabled or configured). You could also jailbreak
it and just scp stuff over (though you might need to hack around with plist
xml files). Itunes on windows is an option (though I'm not sure how to
handle account security or drm issues here). Also, if you go that route,
you're not really going to be able to keep your music synced up. If your
computer can handle it, you might research into running itunes inside of a
windows virtual box session.


Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread Jerome BENOIT

have you tried to share your iTune stuff ?

On 26/12/10 21:24, shawn wilson wrote:


On Dec 26, 2010 7:57 AM, Ted Wager t...@trufflesdad.plus.com
mailto:t...@trufflesdad.plus.com wrote:
 
  My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
  transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
  machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...
 
 

IIRC, there is no real good answer for linux. I think rythmbox has some
capabilities (that can be enabled or configured). You could also
jailbreak it and just scp stuff over (though you might need to hack
around with plist xml files). Itunes on windows is an option (though I'm
not sure how to handle account security or drm issues here). Also, if
you go that route, you're not really going to be able to keep your music
synced up. If your computer can handle it, you might research into
running itunes inside of a windows virtual box session.




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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread Robert Blair Mason Jr.
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:10:27 +0100
Peter Beck pe...@datentraeger.li wrote:

 On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 06:32 -0600, Ted Wager wrote:
  My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can 
  transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my 
  machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...
 
 on windows it's not possible to attach the device with itunes on
 different computers without loosing all files. (I think there are 3rd
 party tools for that, but no idea how they are called)

Actually it is.  The most important factor is the source of the songs.
If they were bought on iTunes more than a year and a half ago, then
they are most likely laden with iTunes' DRM (the songs have a .m4p
extension).  Anyway, I digress.  I know that if you go into iTunes and
open the iPod's page, and then select enable disk use then you can
just copy all the files over (they'll be nested pretty deeply, just
look for a bunch of folders containing possibly yet more folders which
contain a bunch of four-letter filenames).  After you copy them you
should be able to drag them into iTunes.  If you go the linux route you
SHOULD be able to just connect the ipod and open the folder.  I'm
running Sid with LXDE, and opening up the file manager allowed me
_read_only_ access to the iPod, with no fancy command-line mount
required.  However, it did connect with an extremely slow protocol,
which appeared to take more time to copy the files than accessing it as
a USB device on windows (disclaimer: subjective experience, may have
had to do with better hardware on winbox).

So to wrap up, the files are on there, all you need to do is get read
access and copy it over.  No fancy third party program needed.  The
files are all correctly tagged, so they should play with a quick drag
and/or import into -insert favorite music player here- as long as -said
music player- has support for the MPEG-4 codec.  Note that these codecs
are patent-encumbered, so they might be in multiverse.  I think the
package for the gstreamer powered applications is gstreamer-plugins-bad
or something.  And if they're DRM protected, then I can make a torrent
that contains the software to take off the DRM (requiem)- note that
this requires installing an early version of itunes (i think) and only
works on windows.

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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 06:32:34 -0600
Ted Wager t...@trufflesdad.plus.com dijo:

My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can 
transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on
my machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...

I use gtkpod. Works like a champ. You'd have to plug in your son's iPod
first and transfer the files to your computer, then plug your iPod in
and copy them to it off your computer.

Having said that, I don't have any music that was purchased and might
have DRM stuff. All my music is classical that I ripped myself from my
CD collection. I don't know what gtkpod will do with DRM. Also, my iPod
is several years old, so I don't know if there might be a problem with
newer models. But gtkpod is in the repos, so it'll only take a
couple minutes to give it a shot.


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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread briand
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 09:32:46 -0800
John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 06:32:34 -0600
 Ted Wager t...@trufflesdad.plus.com dijo:
 
 My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can 
 transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on
 my machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...
 
 I use gtkpod. Works like a champ. You'd have to plug in your son's
 iPod first and transfer the files to your computer, then plug your
 iPod in and copy them to it off your computer.
 
 Having said that, I don't have any music that was purchased and might
 have DRM stuff. All my music is classical that I ripped myself from my
 CD collection. I don't know what gtkpod will do with DRM. Also, my
 iPod is several years old, so I don't know if there might be a
 problem with newer models. But gtkpod is in the repos, so it'll only
 take a couple minutes to give it a shot.
 
 


one thing you need to know about gtkpod.  the ipod has to have been
formatted for use under windoze.  if it's mac formatted it has hfs, or
some variation thereof, and gtkpod can't seem to deal with it.

FYI.


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Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-26 Thread Simon Hollenbach
ol- Original message -
 My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can
 transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my
 machines but can get access to a Winbox at a neighbours...

Hi Ted,
i dont know if u use KDE and neither do i know if it was an iPod touch 2G, I 
assume both in this post.

U can use amarok.
http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod

as u can see from the compatibility list there, it doesnt work our of the box 
for the newer ones, but there seem to be workarounds as:
http://unusedcycles.wordpress.com/2009/04/29/amarok-14-sync-with-ipod-touch-2g-in-linux/

Greets
Simon

P.S. Gtkpod, as mentioned before, is worth a try too and may be less of a pain 
to get to run.