Re: p7zip-full seems to be a built-in app for debian, but cannot be opened?

2020-01-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:19:52AM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2020-01-10,   wrote:
> >
> > You can see which files
> > were installed by p7zip-full with
> >
> >   dpkg -l p7zip-full
> >
> 
> No, you can't, actually, and need an upper-case '-L' flag here (which I
> pointed out elsewhere, but my posts aren't getting through for some
> reason).

Absolutely right. Thanks
-- t


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Re: p7zip-full seems to be a built-in app for debian, but cannot be opened?

2020-01-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-10, Curt  wrote:
> On 2020-01-10,   wrote:
>>
>> You can see which files
>> were installed by p7zip-full with
>>
>>   dpkg -l p7zip-full
>>
>
> No, you can't, actually, and need an upper-case '-L' flag here (which I
> pointed out elsewhere, but my posts aren't getting through for some
> reason).
>

Sorry for the double-whammy; I guess they are getting through
(eventually, though gmane these days just absorbs them).

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Re: p7zip-full seems to be a built-in app for debian, but cannot be opened?

2020-01-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-10,   wrote:
>
> You can see which files
> were installed by p7zip-full with
>
>   dpkg -l p7zip-full
>

No, you can't, actually, and need an upper-case '-L' flag here (which I
pointed out elsewhere, but my posts aren't getting through for some
reason).



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moi." Antonin Artaud



Re: p7zip-full seems to be a built-in app for debian, but cannot be opened?

2020-01-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-10, Klaus Singvogel  wrote:
> kaye n wrote:
>> Searching for p7zip-full in synaptic, I can see that it is installed.
>> 
>> However I can't find it anywhere.
>
> My question is: what's your expectation how you can "find it"?
>

But I'm afraid *her* question actually is: "Where and what are the
executables 'it' provides?" and all the habitual digressive fulminations
from our distinguished members can only serve to drain the pedagogical
sap of the answer at its root.

;-)


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Re: p7zip-full seems to be a built-in app for debian, but cannot be opened?

2020-01-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-10,   wrote:
>
>
> p7zip-full is the package's name, which is not always the
> name of the binary it installed. You can see which files
> were installed by p7zip-full with
>
>   dpkg -l p7zip-full
>

I think that should rather be

 dpkg -L p7zip-full

Case sensitivity.




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Re: p7zip-full seems to be a built-in app for debian, but cannot be opened?

2020-01-10 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 02:15:21PM +0800, kaye n wrote:
> Hello friends!
> 
> Searching for p7zip-full in synaptic, I can see that it is installed.
> 
> However I can't find it anywhere.
> 
> In the terminal:
> 
> kaye@laptop:~$ sudo whereis p7zip
> [sudo] password for kaye:
> p7zip: /usr/bin/p7zip /usr/lib/p7zip /usr/share/man/man1/p7zip.1.gz
> 
> but is that the full version? and how can I execute it?

p7zip-full is the package's name, which is not always the
name of the binary it installed. You can see which files
were installed by p7zip-full with

  dpkg -l p7zip-full

(I guess some GUI packaging program can do that, too).

Things in /usr/bin are then programs you might invoke.

Read carefully the package descriptions for p7zip and p7zip-full
to see the differences. maybe p7zip-full just installs some more
tools beyond what p7zip would install, maybe the programs it
installs (p7zip and friends) just have some extra super-powers.
Maybe both.

Cheers
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Re: p7zip-full seems to be a built-in app for debian, but cannot be opened?

2020-01-10 Thread Curt
On 2020-01-10,   wrote:

>> [sudo] password for kaye:
>> p7zip: /usr/bin/p7zip /usr/lib/p7zip /usr/share/man/man1/p7zip.1.gz
>
> I don't think you need 'sudo' for whereis.
>

The OP's posts don't seem to appear on my ISP's news server for some
unfathomable reason, and my main man gmane news server seems to be on
the fritz where posting is concerned, so I'm responding here (perhaps
redundantly).

The problem, I believe in this case, is the OP has confounded the
package name with the denominations of the executables it provides.

https://packages.debian.org/buster/amd64/p7zip-full/filelist

curty@einstein:~$ which 7z
/usr/bin/7z
curty@einstein:~$ which 7za
/usr/bin/7za

Zip away!

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Re: p7zip-full seems to be a built-in app for debian, but cannot be opened?

2020-01-10 Thread Klaus Singvogel
kaye n wrote:
> Searching for p7zip-full in synaptic, I can see that it is installed.
> 
> However I can't find it anywhere.

My question is: what's your expectation how you can "find it"?

Do you expect a GUI program with an own entry in the desktop menu?

Sorry, but that's not. It's a cli progam only. The "full" means heree,
that it comes with additional compressions or archives support (like RAR,
RPM, CAB, etc.) which the original "p7zip" can't handle.

Best regards,
Klaus.
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Re: p7zip-full seems to be a built-in app for debian, but cannot be opened?

2020-01-09 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 02:15:21PM +0800, kaye n wrote:
> Hello friends!
> 
> Searching for p7zip-full in synaptic, I can see that it is installed.
> 
> However I can't find it anywhere.
> 
> In the terminal:
> 
> kaye@laptop:~$ sudo whereis p7zip
> [sudo] password for kaye:
> p7zip: /usr/bin/p7zip /usr/lib/p7zip /usr/share/man/man1/p7zip.1.gz

I don't think you need 'sudo' for whereis.

> but is that the full version? and how can I execute it?

Try (in the shell):

  apt search p7zip

It'll show you the packages matching p7zip and whether they're installed.

Cheers
-- tomás


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p7zip-full seems to be a built-in app for debian, but cannot be opened?

2020-01-09 Thread kaye n
Hello friends!

Searching for p7zip-full in synaptic, I can see that it is installed.

However I can't find it anywhere.

In the terminal:

kaye@laptop:~$ sudo whereis p7zip
[sudo] password for kaye:
p7zip: /usr/bin/p7zip /usr/lib/p7zip /usr/share/man/man1/p7zip.1.gz

but is that the full version? and how can I execute it?

Thank you for your time.
Kaye